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  • puresexnow
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    • May 2003
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    #51
    I'm rather surprised the US hasn't planted WMD in iraq yet.

    God knows it wouldn't take much for most american's to lap it up.

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    • Gutterboy
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      • Jul 2002
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      #52
      Originally posted by Colin


      Stupid people think they are normal.
      Average people think they are above average.
      Above average IQ people think they are geniuses.
      Geniuses think they are stupid.

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      • thewebgarage
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        • Sep 2002
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        #53
        4 in 10 americans also voted for the president. look were that got us
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        • TheFLY
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          • Jan 2001
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          #54
          Originally posted by [Labret]
          Imagine that.

          9 out of 10 Americans will tell you that Iraq had something to do with 9-11.

          Please Yahweh, bring the cleansing.


          Whoever made that survey was a genius...

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          • directfiesta
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            • Oct 2002
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            #55
            Originally posted by puresexnow
            I'm rather surprised the US hasn't planted WMD in iraq yet.

            God knows it wouldn't take much for most american's to lap it up.
            Simple. The show in Iraq is runned by the " 4 out of 10" ....

            So they already beleive the WMD are there....

            Just loooooooking....
            I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

            But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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            • TheFLY
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              • Jan 2001
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              #56
              Maybe Bush wants the "I told you so" effect to kick in right before elections... they find WMD later so all the liberals look like ass... That's how I would do it... Before this we forged documents to make it look like they had components of nuclear weapons... They can find whatever they want, whenever they want...

              It was funny to watch the video of the war room guys directing the war... You could hear them stumble on words when it came to the purpose of the attack hehe...

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              • TheFLY
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                • Jan 2001
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                #57
                Originally posted by Colin


                Stupid people think they are normal.
                Average people think they are above average.
                Above average IQ people think they are geniuses.
                Geniuses think they are stupid.
                Geniuses let you think they are stupid so they can avoid talking to you.

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                • Gutterboy
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                  • Jul 2002
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by TheFLY
                  Maybe Bush wants the "I told you so" effect to kick in right before elections... they find WMD later so all the liberals look like ass... That's how I would do it... Before this we forged documents to make it look like they had components of nuclear weapons... They can find whatever they want, whenever they want...

                  It was funny to watch the video of the war room guys directing the war... You could hear them stumble on words when it came to the purpose of the attack hehe...
                  Thats one of those things that might sound good, but the conspiracy it would require would be impossible to keep quiet over the long run.

                  Bush has got alot to lose if no WMD's are ever found, but even more to lose if his administration gets caught ordering a plant.

                  It would be nice to see him go down in flames and disgrace, but he's not that.. ok Dick Cheney and Powell are not that stupid.

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                  • TheFLY
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                    • Jan 2001
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Ironhorse
                    Let's face it, more like 99.99% people really don't have a clue, and everyone chimes in like they know what the fuck happens around the world at the inner circle level, WMDs and geo-political dynamics included.

                    This is like ants on a hill talking about life on Mars. Let's not kid ourselves.
                    That's why I don't vote.

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                    • Gutterboy
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                      • Jul 2002
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by TheFLY


                      That's why I don't vote.

                      bahahaha, good policy

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                      • TheFLY
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                        #61
                        Originally posted by Gutterboy


                        Thats one of those things that might sound good, but the conspiracy it would require would be impossible to keep quiet over the long run.

                        Bush has got alot to lose if no WMD's are ever found, but even more to lose if his administration gets caught ordering a plant.

                        It would be nice to see him go down in flames and disgrace, but he's not that.. ok Dick Cheney and Powell are not that stupid.
                        Not really. Bush is just a pawn in the big scheme of things. Bush is not president for the people... he's president for military defense, oil, drugs, etc. HAHA

                        POWERFUL AND RICH people can rent a president like a cop in Dennys...

                        As for your first sentence, look at the demonstrations around the world against the USA... If Bush lost more credibility it wouldn't make any fucking difference.

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                        • ADL Colin
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                          • Feb 2001
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                          #62
                          Originally posted by puresexnow
                          I'm rather surprised the US hasn't planted WMD in iraq yet.

                          God knows it wouldn't take much for most american's to lap it up.
                          That's because Bush is honest.


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                          • ADL Colin
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                            • Feb 2001
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                            #63
                            Originally posted by TheFLY


                            Geniuses let you think they are stupid so they can avoid talking to you.
                            That's a good one


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                            • neighborhood_bob
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                              • Jun 2003
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                              #64
                              Be fair now...9 in 10 people (americans, europeans, canadians, etc...) are oblivious.
                              They don't know the facts and they don't care.
                              If the poll shows 4 in 10, they didn't even make straight 50/50 odds.
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                              • Arty
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                                #65
                                I wonder, how many of 10 can find the iraq on map.

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                                • 49thParallel
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                                  #66
                                  The thing I don't understand..Iraq was supposed to have this dangerous WMD arsenal. I don't know, is it just me or if your country was being invaded, don't ya think this might have been the time to pull out the arsenal from storage and use it on the invaders?
                                  I think the only WMD they have is a collection of sling shots they got with all the Bazooka Joe wrappers they saved.

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                                  • Snake Doctor
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                                    • Mar 2001
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                                    #67
                                    Originally posted by Colin


                                    Stupid people think they are normal.
                                    Average people think they are above average.
                                    Above average IQ people think they are geniuses.
                                    Geniuses think they are stupid.
                                    That's one of the truest things I've ever seen you post.

                                    Truly intelligent people know how much they don't know, and it humbles them.

                                    Stupid people memorize what they heard someone else say, someone else who THEY THINK is a genius, and then call you a moron if you don't agree with them. (I won't name names here but there's this really fat guy on the radio who comes to mind )
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                                    • The Truth Hurts
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                                      • Nov 2002
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                                      #68
                                      Some people seem to have forgotten the previous two presidents, what they did and what they said in regards to Iraq.

                                      Revisions of convenience.

                                      The only difference between GW and Clinton/Bush I...
                                      GW succeded where they both failed.

                                      To say GW lied about WMD in Iraq is to say Clinton & Bush I lied about WMD in Iraq.

                                      EVERYONE agreed Iraq had WMD before the war. Democrats, France, UN, Germany, and so on..

                                      "Iraq does pose a serious threat to the stability of the Persian Gulf and we should organize an international coalition to eliminate his access to weapons of mass destruction. Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to completely deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power." -- Al Gore, 2002

                                      "The community of nations may see more and more of the very kind of threat Iraq poses now: a rogue state with weapons of mass destruction, ready to use them or provide them to terrorists. If we fail to respond today, Saddam and all those who would follow in his footsteps will be emboldened tomorrow." -- Bill Clinton


                                      "In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including Al Qaeda members, though there is apparently no evidence of his involvement in the terrible events of September 11, 2001. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons. Should he succeed in that endeavor, he could alter the political and security landscape of the Middle East, which as we know all too well affects American security." -- Hillary Clinton


                                      "I am absolutely convinced that there are weapons...I saw evidence back in 1998 when we would see the inspectors being barred from gaining entry into a warehouse for three hours with trucks rolling up and then moving those trucks out." -- Clinton's Secretary of Defense William Cohen in April of 2003

                                      "Iraq is not the only nation in the world to possess weapons of mass destruction, but it is the only nation with a leader who has used them against his own people." -- Tom Daschle in 1998

                                      "I share the administration's goals in dealing with Iraq and its weapons of mass destruction." -- Dick Gephardt in September of 2002

                                      "We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction." -- Bob Graham

                                      "We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction." -- Ted Kennedy, September 27, 2002

                                      "What is at stake is how to answer the potential threat Iraq represents with the risk of proliferation of WMD. Baghdad's regime did use such weapons in the past. Today, a number of evidences may lead to think that, over the past four years, in the absence of international inspectors, this country has continued armament programs." -- Jacques Chirac, October 16, 2002

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                                      • the indigo
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                                        #69
                                        Originally posted by neighborhood_bob
                                        Be fair now...9 in 10 people (americans, europeans, canadians, etc...) are oblivious.
                                        They don't know the facts and they don't care.
                                        If the poll shows 4 in 10, they didn't even make straight 50/50 odds.
                                        This is simply not true.

                                        Most americans live in USA and never give a fuck about anything else. This is not the case with most canadians and european.

                                        In Europe, you can move from one country to another in a few hours... most people speak 2-3 different languages and are interested in many cultures.

                                        USA is close-minded. Hey just yesterday... some Italien dude said that when you drive a Ferrari in USA, people think it's a new Ford Mustang. Scary shit.

                                        Oh and we still live in Igloos in Canada.
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                                        • XYCash
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                                          • Jun 2003
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                                          #70
                                          Originally posted by The Truth Hurts
                                          Some people seem to have forgotten the previous two presidents, what they did and what they said in regards to Iraq.

                                          Revisions of convenience.

                                          The only difference between GW and Clinton/Bush I...
                                          GW succeded where they both failed.

                                          To say GW lied about WMD in Iraq is to say Clinton & Bush I lied about WMD in Iraq.

                                          That has nothing to do with it. I've said it before. Yes Bill Clinton said Iraq had WMDs.

                                          But Clinton didn't send 200,000 men to war based on disarming a country of it's WMDs. Bush did. There is a distinct difference.
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                                          • The Truth Hurts
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                                            • Nov 2002
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                                            #71
                                            Originally posted by the indigo


                                            This is simply not true.

                                            Most americans live in USA and never give a fuck about anything else. This is not the case with most canadians and european.

                                            In Europe, you can move from one country to another in a few hours... most people speak 2-3 different languages and are interested in many cultures.

                                            USA is close-minded. Hey just yesterday... some Italien dude said that when you drive a Ferrari in USA, people think it's a new Ford Mustang. Scary shit.

                                            Oh and we still live in Igloos in Canada.

                                            That italian dude must be a fucking moron.

                                            When we see someone driving a ferrari, we think either it's someone having a midlife crisis, or it's some italian guy compensating for having a small dick.

                                            Also, why don't these people in other countries stop worrying about what americans think? We sure the fuck don't care what your average canadian thinks. Worry about your own fucking lives for once.

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                                            • The Truth Hurts
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                                              #72
                                              Originally posted by XYCash


                                              That has nothing to do with it. I've said it before. Yes Bill Clinton said Iraq had WMDs.

                                              But Clinton didn't send 200,000 men to war based on disarming a country of it's WMDs. Bush did. There is a distinct difference.
                                              Right, he only dropped bombs from afar, doing minimal damage, and still leaving Saddam in power.

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                                              • rooster
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                                                #73
                                                "But Clinton didn't send 200,000 men to war based on disarming a country of it's WMDs. Bush did. There is a distinct difference."


                                                Yes big difference, one man took action despite opposition from total weasels like france and germany.

                                                The other chose to do nothing and ride a phantom economy and left the problems for future leaders.
                                                Ever notice that pretty much everything added to the Constitution after the original was a mistake.

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                                                • ADL Colin
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                                                  • Feb 2001
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                                                  #74
                                                  Originally posted by the indigo


                                                  Most americans live in USA and never give a fuck about anything else. This is not the case with most canadians and european.
                                                  Very true. Most Canadians and Europeans don't live in USA.


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                                                  • XYCash
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                                                    #75
                                                    Originally posted by The Truth Hurts


                                                    Right, he only dropped bombs from afar, doing minimal damage, and still leaving Saddam in power.
                                                    Exactly. Clinton put american lives in minimal danger.

                                                    Bush started a war and now a long term occupation based on the credibility of the United States and it's intelligence that Iraq had WMDs.

                                                    He and his administration did everything they could to convince the entire world for 9 months straight that Iraq had these weapons. He chose that tact.

                                                    He sent the troops in. He is responsible for the war. He is responsible for the occupation. Now he has to face any repercussions that may come as a result of it.
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                                                    • ThunderBalls
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                                                      #76
                                                      Originally posted by The Truth Hurts


                                                      Right, he only dropped bombs from afar, doing minimal damage, and still leaving Saddam in power.


                                                      And Saddam was a threat to us how???

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                                                      • Mr.Fiction
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                                                        #77
                                                        Originally posted by The Truth Hurts


                                                        When we see someone driving a ferrari, we think either it's someone having a midlife crisis, or it's some italian guy compensating for having a small dick.
                                                        Tell that to Lensman.

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                                                        • Snapper
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                                                          #78
                                                          Originally posted by ThunderBalls
                                                          No wonder Bushes popularity is high, people are basically fucking stupid.

                                                          http://pipa.org/whatsnew/html/new_6_04_03.html

                                                          Many Americans Unaware WMD Have Not Been Found

                                                          Four in Ten Overall

                                                          A striking finding in the new PIPA/Knowledge Networks poll is that many Americans are unaware that weapons of mass destruction have not been found in Iraq. While 59% of those polled correctly said the US has not found Iraqi weapons of mass destruction, 41% said they believed that the US has found such weapons (34%) or were unsure (7%).

                                                          Steven Kull, director of PIPA, comments: "For some Americans, their desire to support the war may be leading them to screen out information that weapons of mass destruction have not been found. Given the intensive news coverage and high levels of public attention to the topic, this level of misinformation suggests that some Americans may be avoiding having an experience of cognitive dissonance."

                                                          "To some extent this misperception can be attributed to repeated headlines that there has been a promising lead in the effort to find evidence of such weapons' headlines that are not counterbalanced by prominent reporting that these leads have not been fruitful. But there is also reason to believe that this misperception may be unconsciously motivated, as the mistaken belief is substantially greater among those who favored the war."

                                                          Among those who approved of the decision to go to war and were not just supporting the president (53% of the sample), a majority of 52% said the US has found weapons of mass destruction (48%) or did not know (4%).

                                                          Among Republicans who said they follow international affairs very closely -- and thus may also be more exposed to headlines reporting promising leads -- an even larger percentage -- 55% --said weapons have been found, with just 45% saying they have not.

                                                          Another widespread misperception is that Iraq actually used chemical or biological weapons in the war. Twenty-two percent held this misperception, with 9% being unsure, while 69% correctly said that Iraq had not used such weapons. However, unlike the question of whether weapons have been found, there is no greater tendency to hold this belief among those who support the war, or are Republicans who follow international affairs closely, than there is in the general population.

                                                          The desire to reduce cognitive dissonance may also be skewing some Americans' memory of the government's rationale for going to war. Asked, "Thinking back to when the US government was making the case for going to war with Iraq, according to the government, what was the most important reason for going to war with Iraq?" 60% said "the evidence that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction," and 19% said "the evidence that Iraq was working with the terrorist group al'Qaeda." But 20% said the most important reason was "the fact that Saddam Hussein was an oppressive dictator." Asked for the second most important reason, another 32% chose "the fact that Saddam Hussein was an oppressive dictator," while weapons of mass destruction were chosen by 24% and links to al'Qaeda by 42%.

                                                          ironically, thats the same percentage that vote every election,
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