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  • juicylinks
    So Fucking Banned
    • Apr 2001
    • 122992
    #1

    I hope you guys learned a lesson from my godaddy experience.

    1. Spread your shit across many domains.

    2. Spread your shit across several domains and hosts

    3. Godaddy are a bunch of queefs

    4. read 1 ,2 and 3


    thank god i did or else i would really be in abind right now
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    • JDog
      Confirmed User
      • Feb 2003
      • 7453
      #2
      What exactly did they do?

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        • juicylinks
          So Fucking Banned
          • Apr 2001
          • 122992
          #3
          Originally posted by JDog
          What exactly did they do?

          jDoG
          they changed my name servers to :

          Domain servers in listed order:
          NS1.SUSPENDED-FOR.SPAM-AND-ABUSE.COM
          NS2.SUSPENDED-FOR.SPAM-AND-ABUSE.COM

          without telling me

          few weeks ago i was getting about afew hundred undeliverable emails a hour. A spammer was using @ juicylinks.com as the return address.

          Eventually it stopped but i guess people muct have complained or something

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            • crockett
              in a van by the river
              • May 2003
              • 76818
              #4
              I only have 2 domains at godaddy I just got the 3 month renewal notice for one of them... it will soon be moved to one of my accounts on either directNIC or registerfly ... probally directNic as I allready have a ton on registerfly
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                • juicylinks
                  So Fucking Banned
                  • Apr 2001
                  • 122992
                  #5
                  Originally posted by crockett
                  I only have 2 domains at godaddy I just got the 3 month renewal notice for one of them... it will soon be moved to one of my accounts on either directNIC or registerfly ... probally directNic as I allready have a ton on registerfly
                  they are gonna queef me for 80 bucks it seems to unfreeze it. Lesson learned

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                    • sixxxth_sense
                      So Fucking Banned
                      • Nov 2003
                      • 2430
                      #6
                      I'm suprised that u just found out GO-DADDY is a bunch of SHIT fuckers!!!

                      I'm a newb and even I know this

                      this is sad!!!!

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                        • stocktrader23
                          Let's do some business.
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 18781
                          #7
                          Originally posted by juicylinks


                          they are gonna queef me for 80 bucks it seems to unfreeze it. Lesson learned
                          I have 30 domains there. $8 a year = $240. $15 a year elsewhere = $450. For $210 a year I'll risk having to sling them $80 if someone spams using my domain. My domains aren't as sensitive to being down a few days as yours are though.


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                            • powerbubba
                              Confirmed User
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 358
                              #8
                              Domain servers in listed order:
                              NS1.SUSPENDED-FOR.SPAM-AND-ABUSE.COM
                              NS2.SUSPENDED-FOR.SPAM-AND-ABUSE.COM
                              This makes no sense. How can a registar know if you were spamming or not? Just having a bunch of emails with "juicylinks.com" in the from field is absolutely meaningless, since this can be so easily spoofed. Were you hosting with them?
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                                • sandman!
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                                  • Mar 2001
                                  • 15427
                                  #9
                                  registerfly.com nuff said
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                                    • ztik
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Aug 2001
                                      • 5196
                                      #10
                                      ive been saying it for 2 years now. godaddy fucking sucks.
                                      they sold a few of my domains to some domain broker who tried to sell them back to me for thousands of dollars.
                                      .

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                                        • stocktrader23
                                          Let's do some business.
                                          • Jan 2003
                                          • 18781
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by sandman!
                                          registerfly.com nuff said
                                          Yeah, I'd trust my first born with those backwards fucks.

                                          Not


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                                            • nudecanada
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Jan 2004
                                              • 793
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by juicylinks


                                              they are gonna queef me for 80 bucks it seems to unfreeze it. Lesson learned
                                              Unreal.
                                              Pay it by c/c, transfer the domain, and charge the $80 back. Isn't what they are doing extortion?

                                              My important domains are outta there ASAP. Damn!

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                                                • <IMX>
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Jun 2002
                                                  • 2728
                                                  #13
                                                  enom, rackshack, namebargain...



                                                  Originally posted by stocktrader23


                                                  I have 30 domains there. $8 a year = $240. $15 a year elsewhere = $450. For $210 a year I'll risk having to sling them $80 if someone spams using my domain. My domains aren't as sensitive to being down a few days as yours are though.
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                                                    • Basic_man
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                                                      • Oct 2003
                                                      • 27360
                                                      #14
                                                      poor juicy..
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                                                        • swedguy
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Jan 2002
                                                          • 7981
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by <IMX>
                                                          enom, rackshack, namebargain...
                                                          Enom all the way

                                                          I was using RegisterFly before, but after they fucked up big time when I was going to move some domains it was bye bye for them.

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                                                            • Donny
                                                              As you wish...
                                                              • May 2002
                                                              • 13754
                                                              #16
                                                              DirectNic

                                                              I have 50 domains with them. I love them.

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                                                                • WiredGuy
                                                                  Pounding Googlebot
                                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                                  • 34512
                                                                  #17
                                                                  My general train of thought on registrars is to spread yourself out over at least 3 registrars. One username/password becomes compromised and you can lose every site you own within that registrar. Makes sense to spread them out a little bit at the very least.

                                                                  WG
                                                                  I play with Google.

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                                                                    • Nismo
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • May 2002
                                                                      • 4977
                                                                      #18
                                                                      yea, i hate when they queef you
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                                                                        • BradShaw
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Oct 2001
                                                                          • 7840
                                                                          #19
                                                                          DirectNic
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                                                                            • Mike AI
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Jan 2001
                                                                              • 3624
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Juicy, those things don't happen at DirectNIC. We understand how business should be done.


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                                                                                • Steve
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Feb 2001
                                                                                  • 6894
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by Mike AI
                                                                                  Juicy, those things don't happen at DirectNIC. We understand how business should be done.

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                                                                                    • xxxdesign-net
                                                                                      My hips don't lie
                                                                                      • Nov 2002
                                                                                      • 10129
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by WiredGuy
                                                                                      My general train of thought on registrars is to spread yourself out over at least 3 registrars. One username/password becomes compromised and you can lose every site you own within that registrar. Makes sense to spread them out a little bit at the very least.

                                                                                      WG
                                                                                      but if you have domains with 3 registrars... you just increased your chances by 3 of someone getting your username/pass for one of them ....

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                                                                                        • MadCap
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Aug 2002
                                                                                          • 2357
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          just moved all go daddy names.





                                                                                          Sry to here about that Juicy

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                                                                                            • Ash@phpFX
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Nov 2003
                                                                                              • 4292
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by xxxdesign-net


                                                                                              but if you have domains with 3 registrars... you just increased your chances by 3 of someone getting your username/pass for one of them ....
                                                                                              but if it does happen the damage will only be one third

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                                                                                                • twistyneck
                                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                  • Jan 2002
                                                                                                  • 4660
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  I'll be moving to directnic this week. I've never had a problem with GoDaddy but this is one war story too many.

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                                                                                                    • beemk
                                                                                                      CLICK HERE
                                                                                                      • Jan 2002
                                                                                                      • 20829
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      were you polite with them on the phone like you were with jupiter host?
                                                                                                      I host with Vacares

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                                                                                                        • mardigras
                                                                                                          Bon temps!
                                                                                                          • Feb 2003
                                                                                                          • 14194
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Ya gets what ya pay for. But even though Directnic is a bit more than some registars you get hosting included if you wish, the banner is only for their hosting service so it is not competing for your adult dollar. You can only post images on the free service but it is fast and reliable.

                                                                                                          Their bannerfree hosting is a bit steep for galleries, $15 for 2 gigs (or 1 year, whichever comes first) but that's good to host a front page and link stuff hosted elsewhere. I use that for a couple of low graphic portal pages and host content of any size on my main hosting account.

                                                                                                          They don't have a POP account but you can set it up to forward [email protected] and set your regular mail client to send as that
                                                                                                          Last edited by mardigras; 02-18-2004, 11:22 PM.
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                                                                                                            • SomeCreep
                                                                                                              :glugglug
                                                                                                              • Mar 2003
                                                                                                              • 26118
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Its fucking ridiculous how godaddy trys to police its customers for spam, especially the drastic measures they take after only 1 or 2 complaints. It should be the job of the webhost to stop its clients from spamming.

                                                                                                              I wish directnic would lower its prices to compete with godaddy.

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                                                                                                                • WiredGuy
                                                                                                                  Pounding Googlebot
                                                                                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                                                                                  • 34512
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by xxxdesign-net


                                                                                                                  but if you have domains with 3 registrars... you just increased your chances by 3 of someone getting your username/pass for one of them ....
                                                                                                                  I'd rather that than putting all my eggs in one basket.
                                                                                                                  WG
                                                                                                                  I play with Google.

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                                                                                                                    • radical
                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                      • Oct 2003
                                                                                                                      • 2876
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      I use http://www.domainnamesystems.com - never had any hassle with them




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                                                                                                                        • liquidmoe
                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                          • Mar 2002
                                                                                                                          • 4994
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by SomeCreep
                                                                                                                          Its fucking ridiculous how godaddy trys to police its customers for spam, especially the drastic measures they take after only 1 or 2 complaints. It should be the job of the webhost to stop its clients from spamming.

                                                                                                                          I wish directnic would lower its prices to compete with godaddy.
                                                                                                                          Not entire accurate, policing is a public service, if that were the case a few more registrars would have similar policies or at least some how reproach customers for abuse in this matter. In my opinion the reason they are doing this is simply to free domains and have users shell out the $80 to unfreeze them. Think about it, with the under $10 they charge per domain name thats 8 years you have to be with them before they see $80 of revenue, which isn't even profit, or they can freeze your domain and get $80 from you, $79 of which is profit, not have to care about your ass for eight years and even if you transfer off. How many domains are even eight years old vs 1, 2, 3 or 4 years, certainly a very very tiny portion.

                                                                                                                          Its all in the $$$.

                                                                                                                          Take Luck!

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                                                                                                                            • juicylinks
                                                                                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                              • Apr 2001
                                                                                                                              • 122992
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by beemk
                                                                                                                              were you polite with them on the phone like you were with jupiter host?
                                                                                                                              you better keep your fucking mind on your business you troll

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                                                                                                                                • hova
                                                                                                                                  Traffillionaire
                                                                                                                                  • Jan 2002
                                                                                                                                  • 22430
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  I only use and trust Directnic, and for domains I sell or dont use as much I use mydomain.com, or dotster
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                                                                                                                                    • SubSonic
                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                      • May 2003
                                                                                                                                      • 1383
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      I am quite happy with http://www.mydomain.com

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                                                                                                                                        • Jace
                                                                                                                                          FBOP Class Of 2013
                                                                                                                                          • Jan 2004
                                                                                                                                          • 35562
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          www.web.com $5.95 a domain

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                                                                                                                                            • johnbosh
                                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                              • Aug 2002
                                                                                                                                              • 8965
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              wow that sucks I use them for all my domains (only 5) damn what is the best registar to move too?

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                                                                                                                                                • NBDesign
                                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                  • Jan 2003
                                                                                                                                                  • 5814
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Shit... people steal nbdesign's headers all the time to spam... I have not been shut down.

                                                                                                                                                  Face it... you spammed and got busted...

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                                                                                                                                                    • ModelPerfect
                                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                      • Nov 2003
                                                                                                                                                      • 2862
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by juicylinks


                                                                                                                                                      they changed my name servers to :

                                                                                                                                                      Domain servers in listed order:
                                                                                                                                                      NS1.SUSPENDED-FOR.SPAM-AND-ABUSE.COM
                                                                                                                                                      NS2.SUSPENDED-FOR.SPAM-AND-ABUSE.COM

                                                                                                                                                      without telling me

                                                                                                                                                      few weeks ago i was getting about afew hundred undeliverable emails a hour. A spammer was using @ juicylinks.com as the return address.

                                                                                                                                                      Eventually it stopped but i guess people muct have complained or something
                                                                                                                                                      That's fucked up and probably illegal. You can send emails with anyone's return address on it; they should at the very least check the smtp server and see where it was sent from. So all anyone has to do to shut down competitors is spam with their address? lame.
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                                                                                                                                                        • NBDesign
                                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                          • Jan 2003
                                                                                                                                                          • 5814
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Just tell them it was can spam... that is totally legal. Infact, got my 1st spam the other day with the "Can Spam" Shit at the bottom and the american flag.

                                                                                                                                                          So great... we have legal fucking spam now.


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                                                                                                                                                            • KRL
                                                                                                                                                              Entrepreneur
                                                                                                                                                              • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                                                              • 31429
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Problem here is most of you guys don't read TOS's. These registrars, ISPs, hosting companies, all have the power to turn you off for spamming.

                                                                                                                                                              And when someone uses one of your domains for spamming you need to immediately contact everyone connected to that domain from your hosting company, to your registrar, to your ISP, that someone is illegally using your domain for spamming.
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                                                                                                                                                                • NBDesign
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                                                                                                                                                                  • Jan 2003
                                                                                                                                                                  • 5814
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
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                                                                                                                                                                    • eldominik
                                                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                      • Jan 2002
                                                                                                                                                                      • 454
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by ModelPerfect

                                                                                                                                                                      That's fucked up and probably illegal. You can send emails with anyone's return address on it; they should at the very least check the smtp server and see where it was sent from. So all anyone has to do to shut down competitors is spam with their address? lame.
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                                                                                                                                                                      You can shut down every competitor using godaddy, Godaddy are bunch of fucks so better beware of them

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                                                                                                                                                                        • Trax
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                                                                                                                                                                          • Aug 2001
                                                                                                                                                                          • 14486
                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          sorry to hear bro

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                                                                                                                                                                            • ModelPerfect
                                                                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                              • Nov 2003
                                                                                                                                                                              • 2862
                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by KRL
                                                                                                                                                                              Problem here is most of you guys don't read TOS's. These registrars, ISPs, hosting companies, all have the power to turn you off for spamming.

                                                                                                                                                                              And when someone uses one of your domains for spamming you need to immediately contact everyone connected to that domain from your hosting company, to your registrar, to your ISP, that someone is illegally using your domain for spamming.
                                                                                                                                                                              (1) they're not really using your domain at all...It'd be the same thing as me calling up the White House with a threat and saying I was you. You'd be investigated, but there's nothing to incriminate you...my voice, my caller id, my geographic location, etc. It's just too easy to pull something like that.

                                                                                                                                                                              (2) They have to acknowledge that people do malicious things to competitors...it is in the spammer's best interest to put a competitor's return email down instead of their own. In fact, only a very ignorant spammer would put his own email down, and someone with the business success of juicylinks.com would not be that ignorant.

                                                                                                                                                                              (3) What is the body of the spam mail? Not that this proves guilt, but possibly innocence. If the spam itself doesn't profit a business related to the reply email, then there's no motive.

                                                                                                                                                                              (4) Agreed, it is the responsibility of the domain owner to report a spammer using his/her return address, but that's to assume he's aware of the spammer's actions. In this case, Juicylinks had at least an idea something was wrong because of the return emails. I would argue it is equally the responsibility of the registrar to contact the domain owner with a citation of the complaints to (a) make them aware of the complaints and the actions of the spammer and (b) give them an opportunity to defend themselves.

                                                                                                                                                                              (5) "Go Daddy may also cancel the registration of a domain name, after thirty (30) days, if that name is being used in association with spam or morally objectionable activities." That's their reference to spam usage. A few weeks does not necessarily constitute 30 days. Juicy, how long ago did you first start receiving the return emails?
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                                                                                                                                                                                • juicylinks
                                                                                                                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                                                  • Apr 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                  • 122992
                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  Ok goddady are a bunch of pricks

                                                                                                                                                                                  I am waitng for a cal from their "abuse" dept

                                                                                                                                                                                  I got nowhere with the queef on the phone

                                                                                                                                                                                  I know exactly what the root of this problem is , it seems you can fill out a abuse form on goddady and they will do this to you.

                                                                                                                                                                                  Its just a big headache tbh , i have galleries and free sites and other goodies on different domains so Ill lose some money but what can you do ? They got me by the balls

                                                                                                                                                                                  Lesson learned . I told the queef on the phone to call my host for verification that no spam was sent fromt he mail servers and that out of all my domains I have never logged a single spam report. But the queef on the phone had no idea what i was talking about cause i was getting technical with her.


                                                                                                                                                                                  I got queeffeeddddddddddddd

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                                                                                                                                                                                    • juicylinks
                                                                                                                                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                                                      • Apr 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                      • 122992
                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      When we were in Vegas so around early Jan when i started getting the returned spam emails

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                                                                                                                                                                                        • Mike AI
                                                                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                          • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                          • 3624
                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by liquidmoe
                                                                                                                                                                                          Not entire accurate, policing is a public service, if that were the case a few more registrars would have similar policies or at least some how reproach customers for abuse in this matter. In my opinion the reason they are doing this is simply to free domains and have users shell out the $80 to unfreeze them. Think about it, with the under $10 they charge per domain name thats 8 years you have to be with them before they see $80 of revenue, which isn't even profit, or they can freeze your domain and get $80 from you, $79 of which is profit, not have to care about your ass for eight years and even if you transfer off. How many domains are even eight years old vs 1, 2, 3 or 4 years, certainly a very very tiny portion.

                                                                                                                                                                                          Its all in the $$$.
                                                                                                                                                                                          Great point!

                                                                                                                                                                                          The reason DirectNIC cannot charge less is we have 24/7 live customer support. It is expensive to staff customer support people 24/7 ( and to not have them in India!) We feel giving our customers top notch support is more important then saving a buck. We also do not play games. Most discount registrars play games. You will usually end up paying more, one way or the other.


                                                                                                                                                                                          Make big money on your Domains! Why wait 40 days to get paid with the other guys? Parked.com pays the most for your traffic, and cuts checks twice a month!

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                                                                                                                                                                                            • crockett
                                                                                                                                                                                              in a van by the river
                                                                                                                                                                                              • May 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                              • 76818
                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              Hey man did you get this worked out, I was just reviewing my trades and notice yours has died... checked your site and it's down for me
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                                                                                                                                                                                                • juicylinks
                                                                                                                                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Apr 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • 122992
                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by crockett
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Hey man did you get this worked out, I was just reviewing my trades and notice yours has died... checked your site and it's down for me

                                                                                                                                                                                                  not yet working on it

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • ModelPerfect
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Nov 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • 2862
                                                                                                                                                                                                      #50
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by ModelPerfect

                                                                                                                                                                                                      (1) they're not really using your domain at all...It'd be the same thing as me calling up the White House with a threat and saying I was you. You'd be investigated, but there's nothing to incriminate you...my voice, my caller id, my geographic location, etc. It's just too easy to pull something like that.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      (2) They have to acknowledge that people do malicious things to competitors...it is in the spammer's best interest to put a competitor's return email down instead of their own. In fact, only a very ignorant spammer would put his own email down, and someone with the business success of juicylinks.com would not be that ignorant.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      (3) What is the body of the spam mail? Not that this proves guilt, but possibly innocence. If the spam itself doesn't profit a business related to the reply email, then there's no motive.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      (4) Agreed, it is the responsibility of the domain owner to report a spammer using his/her return address, but that's to assume he's aware of the spammer's actions. In this case, Juicylinks had at least an idea something was wrong because of the return emails. I would argue it is equally the responsibility of the registrar to contact the domain owner with a citation of the complaints to (a) make them aware of the complaints and the actions of the spammer and (b) give them an opportunity to defend themselves.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      (5) "Go Daddy may also cancel the registration of a domain name, after thirty (30) days, if that name is being used in association with spam or morally objectionable activities." That's their reference to spam usage. A few weeks does not necessarily constitute 30 days. Juicy, how long ago did you first start receiving the return emails?
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Oh yeah, and one other thing:
                                                                                                                                                                                                      (6) If godaddy is putting in a publically accessible database NS1.SUSPENDED-FOR.SPAM-AND-ABUSE.COM and there is no proof of such activities, you could argue that is defamation. All you would need to do if prove (a) you did not send the spam in question, which shouldn't be too tough and (b) they did not attempt to ascertain your guilt before making such a declaration, which is obvious. Then sue the heck out of the bastards.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      Also, you said the returned emails came around the beginning of Jan. If you can document that they deactivated your domain before 30 days of that date, then you can argue breach of contract.
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