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  • WolfPack
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    • Oct 2002
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    #1

    The Matrix is NOT an original movie

    It is a copy of a movie called "Dark City" which was released in 1998, a year before the Matrix). I found this link with a comparison.

    http://galeon.hispavista.com/cineram...ixdarkcity.htm
  • Mr.Fiction
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    • Feb 2002
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    #2
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    • Corleone
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      #3
      scandal

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      • Tala
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        • Dec 2002
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        #4

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        • On-top
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          • Aug 2001
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          #5
          Interesting...but I don't know what it says.
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          • quiet
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            • Sep 2001
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            #6
            and gibson was yapping about the matrix back in 84.
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            • stevecore
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              • May 2003
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              #7
              Originally posted by On-top
              Interesting...but I don't know what it says.
              proof is in the pictures.

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              • RedShoe
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                • Feb 2001
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                #8
                I own DarkCity.
                Matrix and DarkCity have NOTHING in common.

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                • andi_germany
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                  • Oct 2002
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                  #9
                  I have seen both Dark City and The Matrix. I would not say that Dark City is a movie the matrix is based on. Both movies have a totally different feel to it. By the way the producers never said that the story was new but the techniques to film it were unique and new.
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                  • bhutocracy
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                    • Dec 2001
                    • 10218

                    #10
                    thats really lame - um.. both are dark futuristic movies of course they share a bunch of the same cliches. some of those comparisons were so fucking lame. i saw dark city when it came out - it was great - knowing the context in some of those pictures it 's pretty trumped up.
                    the premise was kinda the same in both of them - if you were aware at the time they came out there were comparisons.. aside from that, if you think matrix could have ripped off the first film and got it through the arcane studio process and into completion a mere year later you're fucking crazy.

                    but yeah - dark city, great movie, rent it out.. i didn't think of it once watching matrix the first time.

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                    • quiet
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                      • Sep 2001
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                      #11
                      Neur omanc er
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                      • funkmaster
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                        • Sep 2001
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                        #12
                        ... I always said dark city is one of my most favourite movies, but I haven´t noticed that matrix was a dark city ripp ... and for sure it´s not !!!

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                        • bhutocracy
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                          • Dec 2001
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by quiet
                          Neur omanc er
                          heheh.

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                          • bhutocracy
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                            • Dec 2001
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                            #14
                            im not saying they didn't get cues from dark city, but they did it well enough to seperate themselves.. I don't mind "inspiration" as long as the end product is better.

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                            • Mr.Fiction
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                              • Feb 2002
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                              #15
                              Starwars is a ripoff of Lord of the Rings.

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                              • bhutocracy
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                                #16
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                                • Rodent
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                                  • Mar 2001
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                                  #17
                                  OMG that war movie was a ripoff of that other war movie =0

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                                  • RedShoe
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                                    • Feb 2001
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                                    #18
                                    Andrew Mason produced both movies.

                                    And Michelle McGahey did the Art Production for both films (HUGE REASON WHY THEY HAVE A SIMILAR LOOK)


                                    Rick Connelly, Kathy Courtney, Wendy Sainsbury, Sonja Smuk, and Elka Wardega all worked the make-up department together, on both films.

                                    Carol Hughes, and Will Mathews were both production managers ON BOTH MOVIES!


                                    Bruce Hunt, and James McTeigue were BOTH 2nd unit directors on both films.

                                    Rodney Burke, Ray Fowler, David Pride, Arthur Spink Jr., Edwin Treasure, Thomas Van Koeverden, Walter Van Veenendaal, and David Young, did Special Effects FOR BOTH FILMS

                                    Jane Maguire, Jon Thum... and many, many more did computer FX for both films.



                                    Now do you see why two films that are nothing alike can look the same?

                                    Any more stupid accusations?

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                                    • Mr.Fiction
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                                      #19
                                      Avril Lavigne is almost exactly like the Sex Pistols too.
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                                      • Rodent
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                                        #20
                                        you tell em redshoe
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                                        • venturi
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                                          • Aug 2001
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by WolfPack
                                          It is a copy of a movie called "Dark City" which was released in 1998, a year before the Matrix). I found this link with a comparison.

                                          Oh dear lord ... DUH! and NO! all in the same sentence. Neither one is original. The concept of them both (plus 13th Floor, and a handful of others) are all based on concepts done before. Universal Unconscience is not a new concept...

                                          The fact is that The Matrix, Dark City and The Thirteenth Floor are all excellent films and should be judged on their own merit and interpretation of this concept.
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                                          • quiet
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                                            • Sep 2001
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
                                            Avril Lavigne is almost exactly like the Sex Pistols too.
                                            same with Johnny Cash and Shania
                                            we'll miss you our friend. RIP

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                                            • Libertine
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                                              • May 2002
                                              • 17860

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by RedShoe
                                              Andrew Mason produced both movies.

                                              And Michelle McGahey did the Art Production for both films (HUGE REASON WHY THEY HAVE A SIMILAR LOOK)


                                              Rick Connelly, Kathy Courtney, Wendy Sainsbury, Sonja Smuk, and Elka Wardega all worked the make-up department together, on both films.

                                              Carol Hughes, and Will Mathews were both production managers ON BOTH MOVIES!


                                              Bruce Hunt, and James McTeigue were BOTH 2nd unit directors on both films.

                                              Rodney Burke, Ray Fowler, David Pride, Arthur Spink Jr., Edwin Treasure, Thomas Van Koeverden, Walter Van Veenendaal, and David Young, did Special Effects FOR BOTH FILMS

                                              Jane Maguire, Jon Thum... and many, many more did computer FX for both films.



                                              Now do you see why two films that are nothing alike can look the same?

                                              Any more stupid accusations?

                                              And, even funnier, The Matrix was filmed in the same studio as Dark City, right after Dark City was filmed... to cut on the budget, they used much of the sets from Dark City.
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                                              • Gasper

                                                #24
                                                Wtf?? This guy is showing scenes from matrix 1 - 1994! Am I the only one who noticed that?

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                                                • Libertine
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                                                  • May 2002
                                                  • 17860

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by novaknet
                                                  Wtf?? This guy is showing scenes from matrix 1 - 1994! Am I the only one who noticed that?
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                                                  • Mishi
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                                                    • Feb 2002
                                                    • 1054

                                                    #26
                                                    Both very cool movies. I love how flicks released about the same time tend to take on the same general theme...even if it's artificial, it makes me feel better about myself and my pathetic, so-called life...as if there is something bigger out there, something more important...

                                                    Dark City rocks; really glad I got to see it in the theater, as it doesn't hold up as well on the small screen as The Matrix, IMO. Storywise it's more intriguing, but...oh, heck, blah blah blah blah blah.
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                                                    • Kapitan Ivanov
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                                                      • May 2003
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by WolfPack
                                                      It is a copy of a movie called "Dark City" which was released in 1998, a year before the Matrix). I found this link with a comparison.

                                                      http://galeon.hispavista.com/cineram...ixdarkcity.htm
                                                      Yeah I love that movie. Very good. Not too much chit chat like a lot of these movies lately.

                                                      The mood of Dark City is absolutely fantastically dreary. Thumbs up.
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                                                      • JOP
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                                                        • Apr 2001
                                                        • 931

                                                        #28
                                                        Here is the real original movie matrix is based on. Forget that

                                                        Dark City Crap:

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                                                        • liquidmoe
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                                                          • Mar 2002
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by quiet
                                                          and gibson was yapping about the matrix back in 84.
                                                          Months after it came out Gibson got dragged to see it and loved the movie. Before he was worried that it might be ripping on his work but he saw that it really was original and well done so there you have it. He wrote the afterword for "The Art of The Matrix" He even went so far as to say Neo is his favorite Sci Fi hero.

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                                                          • Reak
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                                                            • Mar 2003
                                                            • 17920

                                                            #30
                                                            he has right

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                                                            • Lane
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                                                              • Apr 2001
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                                                              #31
                                                              haters

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                                                              • Dragon Curve
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                                                                • Oct 2002
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                                                                #32
                                                                We've heard this 500 times before. Stfu already. We know Dark City did something *barely* related to The Matrix.

                                                                And for that matter, dark city blew hairy goats' balls. It was the most tedious, unmoving load of crap.

                                                                The Matrix rocks =) Face it.

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                                                                • The Truth Hurts
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                                                                  • Nov 2002
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  what about "Thirteenth Floor"?

                                                                  another good flick along the same line of thought.

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                                                                  • Brujah
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                                                                    • Jan 2001
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Dude the Matrix is a rip-off of
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                                                                    • winter
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                                                                      • May 2001
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by The Truth Hurts
                                                                      what about "Thirteenth Floor"?

                                                                      another good flick along the same line of thought.
                                                                      Exactly. The 13th Floor was based on a book called Simulacrum 3... the matrix is just a ripoff of that filled with mind-numbing psuedo philosophical jargon and crazy special effects.

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                                                                      • Indeed
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                                                                        • Oct 2002
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
                                                                        Starwars is a ripoff of Lord of the Rings.

                                                                        I want my money back.
                                                                        so true!

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