Meant in the Jewish and Christian sense of a God who is all powerful, eternal, He knows you, morally judges you, rewards and punishes you, in this life and in the world to come, and He communicated to us through the Bible.
Do you believe in God?
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does mother nature count?
I believe in spirits, ghosts, forces, etc. but I don't subscribe to the theory of an old man with a white robe pushing buttons and giggling to himself as he throws us a curve once in awhile, nor any representation thereof....Comment
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I was listening to Radio2 the other day. They had much the same question. An 80yr old ex-nun phoned in with a reply something along the lines of....
'The only thing that confuses me these days is why the hell I ever believed in any of that rubbish. If you're going to believe in it then you may as well believe in the tooth fairy and santa claus.'
For some reason the fact that it was this old ex-nun saying it made it very, very funny.Comment
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Do I believe that there is something out there higher and more powerful than all of us, yes. Do I believe this higher power wants us to kill each other based on belief/non belief? No.
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I believe that they believe, which makes it all a little surreal. I have always been polytheistic and I pay more attention to the deities I need favors from. That's kinda how it goes.
I searched for the ONE GOD once, he didn't seem to care about me too much, so why should I give him my time?Comment
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Originally posted by Deepundercover
Sorry, but you all gave incorrect answers and I'm going to have to damn you to hell.
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I guess I'll just have to quote the band Disneyland After Dark: "You can tell by the smell, they throw the best damn parties at the rim of hell"Originally posted by Deepundercover
Sorry, but you all gave incorrect answers and I'm going to have to damn you to hell.Comment
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no i do not
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Where do you think all the cool people went?Originally posted by Deepundercover
Sorry, but you all gave incorrect answers and I'm going to have to damn you to hell.
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Nope not...can't say I do.
agnosticism
Oh yeah and if I am going to HELL then, that's ok all my friends will be thereLast edited by graphicdude; 06-05-2003, 01:39 PM.Comment
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they went to pillpimps.com, signed up and sent lots of traffic ......Originally posted by Colin
Where do you think all the cool people went?Comment
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I'm an agnostic. I believe that there is something above and beyond us, but I know it's nothing like the God that Christianity portrays.
Having studied in a catholic high school, I had quite a bit of exposure to Catholicism, for the most part, it sounds like rubbish to me.
But, you have to understand why people who believe in God do so. The idea of someone that loves you no matter what, someone who's always there to listen to you, someone you can always turn to for guidance and bla bla bla.
Believing this gives people a warm and fuzzy feeling, this is the only reason religion didn't die out like the old theories of the earth being flat and other nonsense from way back when.Comment
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I believe ElvisManson is God. Anyone with me?SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.Comment
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I am God!!!!
Now bow down before me! or DIE!!!!!Comment
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Although if you read the bible, particularly Old Testament, there's plenty gruesome stories there about god slaying individuals or entire nations for some petty bullshit.Originally posted by gezzed
But, you have to understand why people who believe in God do so. The idea of someone that loves you no matter what, someone who's always there to listen to you, someone you can always turn to for guidance and bla bla bla.
Believing this gives people a warm and fuzzy feeling, this is the only reason religion didn't die out like the old theories of the earth being flat and other nonsense from way back when.
I aspire to Christian philosophies even respect Jesus as one of the most significant prophets in history, but I also believe he himself preached against religion (Matthew) and if historical artifacts from the era would not mysteriously vanish or get damaged, we would have a bit more clue as to real past events.
It's interesting to note that prior to the first crusade circa 1095 AD, most of Europe was not christian but pagan. It was the call by Pope Urban II for a holy crusade to the Levant that got the religious propaganda machine revving up for organized religion.
After all when faced with an 'with me or against me' mentality, individuals that stood to gain or lose a crown did not hesitate to convert their entire populations, whether they knew what was hapening or not.
In the case of the eastern empire, a new language complete with writing alphabet was developed, the inheritors being cyrillics and of course the Orthodox church which for the large part saw the Roman hierarchy and their rules, for the Bs that it is.
In Europe in particular, christianity was imposed by blade rather than the goodwill it preaches, so that makes the entire religion questionable. Practice what you preach, I think even Jesus said that. The cases I refer to is of course Spain and the inquisition designed to justify the conquest of Iberia by the Castillan royalty. In case you are not familiar this includes not just the notorious Inquisition but wide scale extermination of majority Moors and Jews who were most likely looking for a new home themselves after the eastern crusades failed. The catholics of course, beat the Jews to this sunny land, as they were included with the moors. No sooner did the spanish reach Gibraltar, I believe 1496 that they set sail to 'christianize' more pagan people, of course we all know about the friendly and humane conversion techniques used by the Conquistadors in the Americas.
I could also mention the assimilation of Lithuania by the Teutonic Knights when they lost their 'market' in the Holy Lands they were hired by the Holy Roman Empire for some backyard cleanup help. After a quick and bloody revolt suppression in Austro-Hungary, the Teutonic Knights, under the guidance of the church, descended on the officially pagan kingdom of Lithuania; back then a relative force. Again we are talking mass torture, mutilation and the gruesome medieval stuff we all still get goosebumps from. It's worth noting that this knightly order still exists and holds office in the vatican. Hmmm.
At one point around 1200 AD there were 2 popes battling each other with vast mercenary armies. The pope and the anti-pope. Fucking go figure what this was all about, but I think it doesn't take a genius to figure out it was not about piety and goodwill on earth..
Ok this is too long, gotta get back to work..Last edited by Ironhorse; 06-05-2003, 03:08 PM.Comment
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This is the most accurate comment I've EVER seen someone besides myself say about religion. I have this conversation with my girlfriend, and I explain this to her... that basically religion is a way for people to have "faith" that their life isn't complete shit, that there will always be hope on the other side (heaven), and that you better keep your life straight or there will be consequences (hell). It really pisses me off that so many religions have such a literal interpretation of heaven and hell. It's only in your heads people!! Holey shit, I can't understand WHY people don't see this.Originally posted by gezzed
But, you have to understand why people who believe in God do so. The idea of someone that loves you no matter what, someone who's always there to listen to you, someone you can always turn to for guidance and bla bla bla.
Believing this gives people a warm and fuzzy feeling, this is the only reason religion didn't die out like the old theories of the earth being flat and other nonsense from way back when.
My gilfriend unfortunately is a former bible-college student, and most any debate that I have with her regarding her religion results in her getting extremely upset with me. Why can't people look at things more rationally... and see BEYOND what's been drilled into their heads since they were kids...Comment
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DUC, how do you know that the christian or jewish god isn't flawed just for the mere fact that it was translated through man?Originally posted by Deepundercover
Sorry, but you all gave incorrect answers and I'm going to have to damn you to hell.Comment
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Yes I believe in God and was brought up Roman Catholic but I am against everything the Catholic church represents. The Catholic church is the most profitable non-profit organization and filled with a bunch of hippocrates.......no sex before marriage, no abortion, no this and no that but its okay that the priests can molest little boys and only get a slap on the wrist for it. If anything God should punish them if he is the almighty! I'm currently dating a guy whose family is diehard Catholic and they have been talking about if we ever get married it'll have to be in a church......Yeah right! Just because someone doesn't get married in a church does that mean that God won't bless you? I have always been told that God only dishes out to us what we can handle, how many people truely believe that?
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God may be dead but narcissism is not.Originally posted by xenigo
This is the most accurate comment I've EVER seen someone besides myself say about religion.
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God is just Santa Clause for adults - a completely imaginary being with mysterious powers we use to control the behaviour of others. "Do as I say and someone will reward you with presents (heaven); disobey me and you will get a lump of coal (hell)." Religion is bullshit, and pretty obvious bullshit at that. Open your minds you faithful saps.Comment
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i married into a religious family, and i had to bite my tongue hard everytime they started telling me I need to be baptized and my kids have to go to confirmation...blah blah blah
I finally had enough of their fake ass bullshit and announced to the whole family i will not go to church, my kids if they choose to can go, but will not be forced...told hubby if he is so oposed to be married to a sinning heathen to hit the road...and i will take half of everything cause i paid for it. Mind you these people are the worse gossipping backstabbing assholes that can't even get together for x-mas dinner cause it a room full of people that forgot who they said what to about whom
i like to throw my "our universe is just a speck in the millions of other universes out there"...did God create them too? and if he did why havent we heard about it? and who the fuck is King James anyhows? ..no one really ever has a answer to that one (i got thrown out of church for asking that once..lol)
Don't ya love reading stories about these missionaries going to countries where there is no modern civilization and trying to spread their evil thoughts and ways....i like the part where it says "they are missing and have not been seen since"
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And the Moon? That is the result of liposucking Gaia?Originally posted by Probono
I am a Neo Gaia believer. Earth is the "goddess" entity. You now ashes to ashes and dust to dust.
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The only God worth paying attention to is the one that made the universe, knows me by name, knows everything I do, and cares if I steal or cheat or murder, and would send me to Hell if I did. In other words, the God of the fundamentalist Christians.
I don't see any evidence of such a God.SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.Comment
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I think the most lethal observation about the truth of religion, ANY religion is the fact that people tend to believe the religion THERE (whereever they are). In Asia, it's Buddhism, Hinduism, or Communism for the most part; in the Middle East it's Islam (except in Israel, where the religion THERE is Judaism). In Europe and the Americas, it's Christianity. I haven't covered the whole globe here (Africa, for example), but I think you can see that religion isn't so much about Truth as about Geography.SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.Comment
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There is no God...Originally posted by Deepundercover
Meant in the Jewish and Christian sense of a God who is all powerful, eternal, He knows you, morally judges you, rewards and punishes you, in this life and in the world to come, and He communicated to us through the Bible.Comment
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Do you have proof or just offering an opinion?Originally posted by PicturesContent
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