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  • Webby
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Oct 2002
    • 14956

    #101
    Rip:

    Kinda sucks, I am looking into the US corp. end of things, but if it's gonna be a pseudo borderline prospect at best... then the deck of cards may come falling down to earth at some point in the near future

    not to mention the tax scenario... pay tax in the US, and pay tax again when it comes to
    Rip.. ya gotta think hard about the US corp thing. There are loads of implications to it - even just because it is in the US. (That reads "control" and they got ya by the bollocks!).

    It is far safer having a corp in some other country that has the benefit of a range of processors who can take your business without you having to open your soul to them and pay $750 for the priviledge and have withholding taxes.

    The criteria is... where is there a number of processors who can handle your biz? Look to European countries... even CCBill has representation there and there are a good few others.

    Example above of UK and Gibraltar are just a couple - by the way "offshore" has a myth about it. I've been "offshore" for a good few years now and have several corps in various jurisdictions. There is little difference to being "onshore". The main thing is there are no taxes, so it is up to you to declare funds you bring into your home country. It also costs no more to be offshore.

    Having said that, this offshore stuff does not apply to US citizens in the same way... they gotta pay taxes to the regime in Washington wherever they are. Canada does not have restrictions like this.
    XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.

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    • Kimmykim
      bitchslapping zebras!!!!!
      • Jun 2001
      • 16015

      #102
      Welcome to reality. In case anyone hasn't heard, Visa US is now handling compliance issues for Visa International as well.

      As to the instigation of fees for other regions, I have heard nothign to that effect.

      Cross border acquisition is being wiped out tho...

      I also heard a nasty rumor that a major Euro bank put the brakes on a number of these 'numerous European high risk processors' you are discussing.

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      • Webby
        Too lazy to set a custom title
        • Oct 2002
        • 14956

        #103
        I also heard a nasty rumor that a major Euro bank put the brakes on a number of these 'numerous European high risk processors' you are discussing.
        Correct.. was in relation to IBill - again!
        XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.

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        • Kimmykim
          bitchslapping zebras!!!!!
          • Jun 2001
          • 16015

          #104
          Originally posted by Webby


          Correct.. was in relation to IBill - again!
          Ibill is one. I said many.

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          • Webby
            Too lazy to set a custom title
            • Oct 2002
            • 14956

            #105
            Nope... was contamination from Ibill... but hell, who knows that will happen tomorrow!
            XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.

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            • Kimmykim
              bitchslapping zebras!!!!!
              • Jun 2001
              • 16015

              #106
              Originally posted by Webby
              Nope... was contamination from Ibill... but hell, who knows that will happen tomorrow!
              Um, no, I didn't have cotton in my ears. It was more than one. Many more than one.

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              • Rip
                Confirmed User
                • Jan 2001
                • 1456

                #107
                Originally posted by Webby
                Rip:



                Rip.. ya gotta think hard about the US corp thing. There are loads of implications to it - even just because it is in the US. (That reads "control" and they got ya by the bollocks!).

                It is far safer having a corp in some other country that has the benefit of a range of processors who can take your business without you having to open your soul to them and pay $750 for the priviledge and have withholding taxes.

                The criteria is... where is there a number of processors who can handle your biz? Look to European countries... even CCBill has representation there and there are a good few others.

                Example above of UK and Gibraltar are just a couple - by the way "offshore" has a myth about it. I've been "offshore" for a good few years now and have several corps in various jurisdictions. There is little difference to being "onshore". The main thing is there are no taxes, so it is up to you to declare funds you bring into your home country. It also costs no more to be offshore.

                Having said that, this offshore stuff does not apply to US citizens in the same way... they gotta pay taxes to the regime in Washington wherever they are. Canada does not have restrictions like this.
                Thanks for the insight, it may well be worth looking into

                I am just so freaking pissed off, after developing my paysites, so they convert better than all the other programs which I resell for, not to mention all of the other goodies, that I just made specifically to keep surfers recurring and get them past the trial and cancel mentality

                I mean that's why I started them, I saw poor ratios and recurrs, and thought, hell I can do better than that, and I did

                oh well, I am gonna have to rethink everything.. again
                ...

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                • Webby
                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                  • Oct 2002
                  • 14956

                  #108


                  Fine!! You obvious know!
                  XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.

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                  • Webby
                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                    • Oct 2002
                    • 14956

                    #109
                    Um, no, I didn't have cotton in my ears. It was more than one. Many more than one.
                    OK.. I have to admit that I don't open the VISA/banking mail coming into processors in Europe, but I do deal with several and there is no problem. At least... up to this time!

                    You got something against Euro processors??
                    XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.

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                    • p00p
                      Confirmed User
                      • Dec 2002
                      • 5125

                      #110
                      Originally posted by Kimmykim
                      Welcome to reality. In case anyone hasn't heard, Visa US is now handling compliance issues for Visa International as well.

                      As to the instigation of fees for other regions, I have heard nothign to that effect.

                      Cross border acquisition is being wiped out tho...

                      I also heard a nasty rumor that a major Euro bank put the brakes on a number of these 'numerous European high risk processors' you are discussing.
                      Which US billers that have branches in the UK do you figure are safe to go with if I get a UK corporation? Wouldn't CCBill etc. be considered a high risk processor, even if they comply?
                      ICQ: 316365783
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                      • lola
                        Registered User
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 6

                        #111
                        Suggestion - Use Pro Defence Billing, they don't have a sign up fee!

                        Soloution - Sign up today

                        How - Log on to www.prodefencebilling.com

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                        • jact
                          Confirmed User
                          • Sep 2002
                          • 9134

                          #112
                          Originally posted by lola
                          Suggestion - Use Pro Defence Billing, they don't have a sign up fee!

                          Soloution - Sign up today

                          How - Log on to www.prodefencebilling.com
                          There's an idea, a company I've never heard of from someone with 4 posts.. Okaaaaaaay.
                          Free agent

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                          • Webby
                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                            • Oct 2002
                            • 14956

                            #113
                            Which US billers that have branches in the UK do you figure are safe to go with if I get a UK corporation? Wouldn't CCBill etc. be considered a high risk processor, even if they comply?
                            OK.. I'll try and answer your question...
                            The "high resk processor" bit is going to apply to all adult business.. so, in any event, you will be "high risk". And yes, CCBillEU would be a high risk processor.

                            Regarding the geographical matter, that is more complex, since hell knows what VISA may do next. But, at the moment the EU is treated as a banking region. EU webmasters, say the were incorporated in UK (within the EU), can use any EU processor.

                            For what it is worth, there are, I think, about nine global banking regions. So far, only one region has agreed with the VISA proposals for change in the last year. This was VISA/US. The EU rejected the VISA proposals for change.

                            But.. time will tell.. tis a volatile situation!!
                            XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.

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                            • p00p
                              Confirmed User
                              • Dec 2002
                              • 5125

                              #114
                              Originally posted by lola
                              Suggestion - Use Pro Defence Billing, they don't have a sign up fee!

                              Soloution - Sign up today

                              How - Log on to www.prodefencebilling.com
                              ICQ: 316365783
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                              • jerryfan2000
                                Registered User
                                • Oct 2002
                                • 79

                                #115
                                Originally posted by Webby


                                OK.. I'll try and answer your question...
                                The "high resk processor" bit is going to apply to all adult business.. so, in any event, you will be "high risk". And yes, CCBillEU would be a high risk processor.

                                Regarding the geographical matter, that is more complex, since hell knows what VISA may do next. But, at the moment the EU is treated as a banking region. EU webmasters, say the were incorporated in UK (within the EU), can use any EU processor.

                                For what it is worth, there are, I think, about nine global banking regions. So far, only one region has agreed with the VISA proposals for change in the last year. This was VISA/US. The EU rejected the VISA proposals for change.

                                But.. time will tell.. tis a volatile situation!!
                                Visa is comprised of six regions.
                                Visa¡¦s six regions are Asia Pacific, Canada, Central and Eastern Europe, Middle East and Africa, European Union, Latin America and Caribbean and the United States.

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                                • Webby
                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                  • Oct 2002
                                  • 14956

                                  #116
                                  Got ya!
                                  XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.

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                                  • Rip
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Jan 2001
                                    • 1456

                                    #117
                                    The thing that pisses me off the most, is it's not that I am tring to get around the system, or beat the system... I am trying to join with the system, they are just making it very nearly impossible

                                    ...

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                                    • p00p
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Dec 2002
                                      • 5125

                                      #118
                                      Originally posted by Rip
                                      The thing that pisses me off the most, is it's not that I am tring to get around the system, or beat the system... I am trying to join with the system, they are just making it very nearly impossible

                                      From what I understand, there are only two ways possible if you are Canadian. Get a UK presence, or a US presence. There are lots of other processors I could go to that I wouldn't have to pay the $750 fee. Yet. But I am getting tired of this bullshit, time to ante up some coin, comply the best we (Canadians) can, and carry on. It is plain as day Visa is clamping down, and they mean it. To me, in this situation, you can run, but you can't hide.

                                      Or, don't run your own paysites.
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                                      • Webby
                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                        • Oct 2002
                                        • 14956

                                        #119
                                        Rip:

                                        The thing that pisses me off the most, is it's not that I am tring to get around the system, or beat the system... I am trying to join with the system, they are just making it very nearly impossible
                                        That's the irony!! There is a "war" going on out there at different levels - basically an attempt by monopolies and others to make rules as to "what should be" globally. The tide is going against this at the moment for many reasons
                                        XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.

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                                        • directfiesta
                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                          • Oct 2002
                                          • 30189

                                          #120
                                          Originally posted by jerryfan2000


                                          Visa is comprised of six regions.
                                          Visa¡¦s six regions are Asia Pacific, Canada, Central and Eastern Europe, Middle East and Africa, European Union, Latin America and Caribbean and the United States.
                                          Why the fuck is Canada the ONLY single country and also a " zone". All other zones consists of MANY countries. Why aren't we with all the "Americas" and Carribean....

                                          After all, we are often referred to as a " Banana Republic"....

                                          I am going to call that chick of the government. Time she get her tush off her seat!

                                          ---------------------------------------------



                                          April 17, 2003

                                          EBS-0085




                                          Monsieur XXX XXXX
                                          [email protected]


                                          Monsieur,

                                          J?ai bien reçu votre courrier électronique du 7 octobre 2002 au sujet de nouvelles procédures instaurées par VISA USA pour le traitement de transactions des sociétés non-situées aux
                                          États-Unis. J?ai pris bonne note de vos préoccupations. Veuillez m?excuser de n?avoir pu répondre plus tôt.

                                          Comme cette question relève de la compétence du ministre des Finances, j?ai acheminé votre courrier électronique à ma collègue Diane Lafleur, Chef principal, Planification et coordination stratégiques, Finances Canada, pour qu?elle puisse y accorder toute l?attention désirée.

                                          Je vous prie d?agréer, Monsieur, l?expression de mes sentiments les meilleurs.




                                          Paul Robertson
                                          Directeur
                                          Direction de la politique commerciale sur les services (EBS)
                                          Ministère des Affaires étrangères et du Commerce international
                                          125, promenade Sussex
                                          Ottawa (Ontario) K1A 0G2
                                          Tel./Tél. (613)944-2034; fax/téléc. (613) 944-0058
                                          [email protected]


                                          c.c. Diane Lafleur
                                          Chef principal, Planification et coordination stratégiques
                                          Finances Canada

                                          ----------------------------
                                          I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                                          But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                                          • Webby
                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                            • Oct 2002
                                            • 14956

                                            #121
                                            Why the fuck is Canada the ONLY single country and also a " zone". All other zones consists of MANY countries. Why aren't we with all the "Americas" and Carribean....

                                            After all, we are often referred to as a " Banana Republic"....

                                            I am going to call that chick of the government. Time she get her tush off her seat
                                            Keep at em!!

                                            There is some logic in the Caribbean, US and Canadian regions, but this obviously is to the detrement of Canadian webmasters and others.

                                            Na.. the Banana Republic is not Canada or in the Caribbean.. tis someplace in between!!
                                            XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.

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                                            • Groove
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Jan 2003
                                              • 3852

                                              #122
                                              Originally posted by Kimmykim
                                              I also heard a nasty rumor that a major Euro bank put the brakes on a number of these 'numerous European high risk processors' you are discussing.
                                              KK - But that's just the processors who have been circumventing Visa's cross-border regs, right? For example, I was under the impression that CCBillEU is fully compliant with all of Visa's rules and regulations. Do you know anything to the contrary?

                                              There's no way that I want my business to be subject to the whims of the IRS. It's bad enough dealing with the Australian Tax Office! I'm therefore planning to set-up a Gibralta company and have CCBillEU as my primary processor. Are you aware of any specific reasons why this would be a bad way to go?

                                              Webby - I think think your advice re going offfshore was spot-on I don't understand why more people are not thinking about setting-up in a tax haven. Once you establish a company outside your country of residence you ARE offshore. So why not do it in a country where there's no tax and no requirement for detailed book keeping, tax returns, etc?
                                              Last edited by Groove; 05-29-2003, 08:51 PM.

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                                              • the indigo
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Sep 2001
                                                • 2016

                                                #123
                                                Originally posted by directfiesta
                                                Comme cette question relève de la compétence du ministre des Finances, j?ai acheminé votre courrier électronique à ma collègue Diane Lafleur, Chef principal, Planification et coordination stratégiques, Finances Canada, pour qu?elle puisse y accorder toute l?attention désirée.
                                                "Easy way out"... Next courriel
                                                "There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die." -Hunter S. Thompson

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                                                • the indigo
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Sep 2001
                                                  • 2016

                                                  #124
                                                  Originally posted by Groove


                                                  I don't understand why more people are not thinking about...
                                                  Cuz most people are fucking lemmings.
                                                  "There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die." -Hunter S. Thompson

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                                                  • Webby
                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                    • Oct 2002
                                                    • 14956

                                                    #125
                                                    Once you set-up a company outside your country of residence you ARE offshore.
                                                    Hi Groove! Something! I don't know the tax laws where you are, but.. as a guide. Example! If you are remain resident within your country of citizenship, it is usually the case that any funds you bring into your country, - you are "obliged" to pay taxes on.
                                                    I know this is the case in both Canada and UK.

                                                    The method is.. well .. free for you to choose, ie. an offshore can engage you in "meaningful employment" *s* and you can send em a bill and they pay you. This is all declared to the tax authorities in you country of citizenship.

                                                    To be "really" offshore, (and pay not one dime) you would have to live out of your country for more than X months a year. In this instance, you pay no taxes in either the offshore or your country of citizenship.

                                                    I would think the Australian tax laws in this area are similar to UK etc.

                                                    Most countries of the world work on this principle except the US and a couple of Arab countries.

                                                    Freedom rules!!!
                                                    XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.

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                                                    • Webby
                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                      • Oct 2002
                                                      • 14956

                                                      #126
                                                      And... sorry, the above is the "proper version" - in reality the situation is much simpler!
                                                      XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.

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                                                      • Groove
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Jan 2003
                                                        • 3852

                                                        #127
                                                        Originally posted by Webby
                                                        Hi Groove! Something! I don't know the tax laws where you are, but.. as a guide. Example! If you are remain resident within your country of citizenship, it is usually the case that any funds you bring into your country, - you are "obliged" to pay taxes on.
                                                        I know this is the case in both Canada and UK.

                                                        The method is.. well .. free for you to choose, ie. an offshore can engage you in "meaningful employment" *s* and you can send em a bill and they pay you. This is all declared to the tax authorities in you country of citizenship.
                                                        To avoid Australian company tax it's necessary to use nominee shareholders and directors so that you are not in "control" of the company. And yes -- any money paid to an Australian resident is subject to Australian income tax.


                                                        To be "really" offshore, (and pay not one dime) you would have to live out of your country for more than X months a year. In this instance, you pay no taxes in either the offshore or your country of citizenship.
                                                        Yep

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                                                        • Olivier
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Mar 2003
                                                          • 656

                                                          #128
                                                          Originally posted by directfiesta


                                                          Why the fuck is Canada the ONLY single country and also a " zone". All other zones consists of MANY countries. Why aren't we with all the "Americas" and Carribean....

                                                          After all, we are often referred to as a " Banana Republic"....

                                                          I am going to call that chick of the government. Time she get her tush off her seat!

                                                          ---------------------------------------------



                                                          April 17, 2003

                                                          EBS-0085




                                                          Monsieur XXX XXXX
                                                          [email protected]


                                                          Monsieur,

                                                          J?ai bien reçu votre courrier électronique du 7 octobre 2002 au sujet de nouvelles procédures instaurées par VISA USA pour le traitement de transactions des sociétés non-situées aux
                                                          États-Unis. J?ai pris bonne note de vos préoccupations. Veuillez m?excuser de n?avoir pu répondre plus tôt.

                                                          Comme cette question relève de la compétence du ministre des Finances, j?ai acheminé votre courrier électronique à ma collègue Diane Lafleur, Chef principal, Planification et coordination stratégiques, Finances Canada, pour qu?elle puisse y accorder toute l?attention désirée.

                                                          Je vous prie d?agréer, Monsieur, l?expression de mes sentiments les meilleurs.




                                                          Paul Robertson
                                                          Directeur
                                                          Direction de la politique commerciale sur les services (EBS)
                                                          Ministère des Affaires étrangères et du Commerce international
                                                          125, promenade Sussex
                                                          Ottawa (Ontario) K1A 0G2
                                                          Tel./Tél. (613)944-2034; fax/téléc. (613) 944-0058
                                                          [email protected]


                                                          c.c. Diane Lafleur
                                                          Chef principal, Planification et coordination stratégiques
                                                          Finances Canada

                                                          ----------------------------


                                                          it took lots of time!!! october 7 2002 to April 17 2003 damn!

                                                          Hit me up buddy! I Want to give a call to this girl with you.
                                                          It's gonna put some presure on it and hopefully will change things.

                                                          Tu parles francais, alors appel moi! 514-824-6477 ou ICQ: 96699802

                                                          Je suis a la recherche d'un moyen pour facturer mes clients aussi. Alors on peut s'aider je crois!

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                                                          • Groove
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Jan 2003
                                                            • 3852

                                                            #129
                                                            Originally posted by Webby
                                                            And... sorry, the above is the "proper version" - in reality the situation is much simpler!
                                                            I did not mean to imply that the beneficial owner would be exempt from personal income tax. I was saying that you could set-up somewhere there is no *company* tax of any kind and no requirement for the *company* to provide detailed accounts or tax returns.

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                                                            • Webby
                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                              • Oct 2002
                                                              • 14956

                                                              #130
                                                              Groove:

                                                              It is amazing how you can turn a credit card problem into a hell of an asset!

                                                              Think on it!!! Not that I suggest you do this for one moment!
                                                              XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.

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                                                              • Webby
                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                • Oct 2002
                                                                • 14956

                                                                #131
                                                                I did not mean to imply that the beneficial owner would be exempt from personal income tax. I was saying that you could set-up somewhere there is no *company* tax of any kind and no requirement for the *company* to provide detailed accounts or tax returns.
                                                                Yup.. got ya!
                                                                XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.

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                                                                • Kimmykim
                                                                  bitchslapping zebras!!!!!
                                                                  • Jun 2001
                                                                  • 16015

                                                                  #132
                                                                  Originally posted by Groove
                                                                  KK - But that's just the processors who have been circumventing Visa's cross-border regs, right? For example, I was under the impression that CCBillEU is fully compliant with all of Visa's rules and regulations. Do you know anything to the contrary?
                                                                  Actually I heard that Visa Intl pulled the plug on a bank, not a decision related to the specific companies using that bank to acquire, simply a decision on Visa's part to terminate that relationship. As with a decision that Visa made last year to terminate a certain ISO's relationships, costing several companies their own merchant accounts in the process, it is what it is.

                                                                  I would put my faith in CCBill in anything they did, and I would feel that would be my best bet for EU processing.

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                                                                  • Webby
                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                    • Oct 2002
                                                                    • 14956

                                                                    #133
                                                                    kk:

                                                                    I would put my faith in CCBill in anything they did, and I would feel that would be my best bet for EU processing.
                                                                    Would agree on that! . At least till there is any other, at this time, unknown movement in VISA policy.
                                                                    XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.

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                                                                    • Groove
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Jan 2003
                                                                      • 3852

                                                                      #134
                                                                      Originally posted by Kimmykim
                                                                      Actually I heard that Visa Intl pulled the plug on a bank, not a decision related to the specific companies using that bank to acquire, simply a decision on Visa's part to terminate that relationship. As with a decision that Visa made last year to terminate a certain ISO's relationships, costing several companies their own merchant accounts in the process, it is what it is.
                                                                      That could get ugly!


                                                                      I would put my faith in CCBill in anything they did, and I would feel that would be my best bet for EU processing.
                                                                      Many thanks for the advice

                                                                      BTW, do you know any other Visa compliant EU processors I could use as a backup?

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                                                                      • Kimmykim
                                                                        bitchslapping zebras!!!!!
                                                                        • Jun 2001
                                                                        • 16015

                                                                        #135
                                                                        Originally posted by Webby
                                                                        kk:



                                                                        Would agree on that! . At least till there is any other, at this time, unknown movement in VISA policy.
                                                                        I'm not sure what you mean by unknown movement... it looks like a clear cut line to me... Visa US is now handling compliance for Visa Intl. Cross border acquiring has been prohibited for a long time in all regions, it's only been enforced the last few months.

                                                                        It will be enforced uniformly before it's over, that's a bet I will make with anyone who cares to offer up their money.

                                                                        Groove -- I don't know who to use as a backup -- I'd suggest asking your CCBill rep what they suggest, since they would be in a position to give you ideas about what other compliant processing may be available to you, something that won't put you or your business in jeopardy.

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                                                                        • NETbilling
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Jan 2002
                                                                          • 8598

                                                                          #136
                                                                          Originally posted by jact


                                                                          It was via ICQ actually, but thanks for answering the question here.

                                                                          So if I'm the owner of said company and my employee or someone represents my company on the application to the bank/Visa/whomever, is that cool or do all principal owners of the company have to be US?
                                                                          Hi,

                                                                          All of the owners do not need to be in the US but at least one does have to be. Hit me up on ICQ tomoprrow and I will call a couple of the banks for specifics regarding your needs.

                                                                          117496436 or by phone at: 661-252-2456

                                                                          Thanks, MItch


                                                                          Mitch Farber
                                                                          CEO - NETbilling, Inc.
                                                                          Email / Phone: 888-357-8166 / 661-252-2456
                                                                          Transaction processing & 24/7 call center services with exceptional rates and flexibility, since 1998!

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                                                                          • Groove
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Jan 2003
                                                                            • 3852

                                                                            #137
                                                                            KK, many thanks for the ongoing contribution you make to the various CC processing threads. I've probably learned more from reading your posts than I have from all of the processors' posts combined

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                                                                            • Kimmykim
                                                                              bitchslapping zebras!!!!!
                                                                              • Jun 2001
                                                                              • 16015

                                                                              #138
                                                                              Originally posted by Groove
                                                                              KK, many thanks for the ongoing contribution you make to the various CC processing threads. I've probably learned more from reading your posts than I have from all of the processors' posts combined
                                                                              Wow, thanks.

                                                                              You can always drop me an email if you have q's -- I'm usually pretty quick to answer...

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                                                                              • FATPad
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Oct 2001
                                                                                • 6693

                                                                                #139
                                                                                Originally posted by lola
                                                                                Suggestion - Use Pro Defence Billing, they don't have a sign up fee!

                                                                                Soloution - Sign up today

                                                                                How - Log on to www.prodefencebilling.com
                                                                                HAHAHA
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                                                                                • p00p
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Dec 2002
                                                                                  • 5125

                                                                                  #140
                                                                                  Originally posted by FATPad
                                                                                  HAHAHA
                                                                                  Hahaha....
                                                                                  I thought the same thing. But so many morons are gonna sign up for them.....and bitch when the axe falls.
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                                                                                  • Groove
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Jan 2003
                                                                                    • 3852

                                                                                    #141
                                                                                    Originally posted by Kimmykim
                                                                                    You can always drop me an email if you have q's -- I'm usually pretty quick to answer...
                                                                                    Cheers

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                                                                                    • OY
                                                                                      Industry Pioneer
                                                                                      • Oct 2002
                                                                                      • 5401

                                                                                      #142
                                                                                      Originally posted by p00p


                                                                                      I think I might open a US merchant account and go through Netbilling.
                                                                                      GREAT IDEA!!!
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