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  • SunTzu
    Confirmed User
    • May 2002
    • 456

    #1

    Looks like AC Pay got bit by VISA

    From the AC Pay lounge.. I guess there's no hiding from Visa. AC Pay was the most reliable of the holdouts...

    From the AC Pay lounge:
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    Dear Webmasters,

    In the interests of retaining the continued good relationship with merchant banks and provide our clients with the best possible service, AC Pay will be implementing some significant changes over the coming weeks. These break down into two categories--Registration Fees and Site Content, respectively.

    REGISTRATION FEES:

    As of June 15, AC Pay will begin charging an annual registration fee to all clients. Clients outside of the United States and Canada will be subject to a $350 annual fee, while clients within the United States and Canada will be subject to a $750 fee. For clients doing business within the United States or Canada that have already registered with VISA through an IPSP, the $750 fee will be waived and they need only pay $350, with proper proof of registration. For clients with a certain transaction volume, AC Pay may, at it's discretion, waive some or all of the annual fees, on a per-case basis. Future clients will be required to pay fees to AC Pay before processing can begin. Existing clients will be sent a bill, as necessary.

    SITE CONTENT:

    We have already begun providing Webmasters with a number of simple steps to take to ensure that their sites comply with card association regulations. We will distribute these more widely in the coming weeks, As a reminder, AC Pay will not accept sites in any of the following categories:


    - Rape: any materials involving rape, simulated rape, forced sex or bondage with penetration.
    - Child Pornography: any materials involving persons under the age of 18, either ?actual? or suggested?.
    - Hate Crimes / Hate Propaganda
    - Pre-teen References: any references to ?Lolita? or ?Pre-Teen?.
    - Bestiality: any materials involving sex with animals.
    - Molestation
    - Incest
    - Inappropriate URL: any URL (domain, directory or file name) that implies any inappropriate content listed above.

    If you have any questions, please email [email protected]. We expect a large number of questions, so our response times may be slower than average for a few days, but we will get back to you. To protect the privacy and security of our clients, we will not respond to posts on this or other boards.

    Sincerely,

    Cormac Foster
    _________________
    Senior Product Manager
    Business Development Team
    Last edited by SunTzu; 05-28-2003, 01:56 PM.
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  • SunTzu
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    • May 2002
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    #2
    How long until Probilling, 2000Charge, Globill, Verotel, etc. follow?
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    • Mr.Fiction
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      • Feb 2002
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      #3
      Can you post the new Site Content rules too?
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      • Fletch XXX
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        • Jan 2002
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        #4
        Hell cometh.

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        • SunTzu
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          • May 2002
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          #5
          Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
          Can you post the new Site Content rules too?
          good idea.. edited
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          • Sly_RJ
            Live Hard - Die Hard
            • Feb 2002
            • 17042

            #6
            Shiiit. I was just sent my contract today, too. If I'm going to put up the cash I'd rather be with Epoch, sorry guys!
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            • X37375787

              #7
              hmm interesting

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              • X37375787

                #8
                Originally posted by Sly_RJ
                Shiiit. I was just sent my contract today, too. If I'm going to put up the cash I'd rather be with Epoch, sorry guys!

                yeah no kidding.

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                • SunTzu
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                  • May 2002
                  • 456

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Sly_RJ
                  Shiiit. I was just sent my contract today, too. If I'm going to put up the cash I'd rather be with Epoch, sorry guys!
                  Too funny, I ran across this when I was checking on my contract too. They're still being decent about it, giving a discount if you're already registered with another processor. Hmm, how come the other guys aren't doing that?
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                  • Mr.Fiction
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                    • Feb 2002
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                    #10
                    I wonder if calling women "sluts" or "bitches" or "whores" makes it "Hate Propaganda"?
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                    • lamrobertson
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                      • Oct 2002
                      • 475

                      #11
                      Strange they never sent an email

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                      • X37375787

                        #12
                        Originally posted by lamrobertson
                        Strange they never sent an email

                        indeed - and in what lounge did you see this posted?

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                        • gothweb
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                          • Jun 2002
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                          #13
                          Damnit, incest can be sexy.

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                          • clubsexy
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                            • Jan 2003
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                            #14
                            My friend chose ACpay to avoid the 750.00....

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                            • SunTzu
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                              • May 2002
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Equinox



                              indeed - and in what lounge did you see this posted?
                              AC Pay's lounge.. aclounge.com
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                              • Centurion
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                                • Dec 2002
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by SunTzu
                                How long until Probilling, 2000Charge, Globill, Verotel, etc. follow?
                                Not long!

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                                • Pipecrew
                                  Master of Gfy.com
                                  • Feb 2002
                                  • 14888

                                  #17
                                  I fedexed my contract on friday and faxed them, still no response.... IF i could go elsewhere, I sure as hell would

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                                  • ldinternet
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                                    • Apr 2001
                                    • 8245

                                    #18
                                    Looks like I need a new processor for my preteen molestation site. Any takers?

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                                    • gruffy
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                                      • Feb 2003
                                      • 776

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by SunTzu
                                      - Rape: any materials involving rape, simulated rape, forced sex or bondage with penetration.
                                      - Child Pornography
                                      - Hate Crimes / Hate Propaganda
                                      - Pre-teen References: any references to ?Lolita? or ?Pre-Teen?.
                                      - Bestiality: any materials involving sex with animals.
                                      - Molestation
                                      - Incest


                                      Man, what is their fucking beef with bondage & penetration.

                                      Bitches love it.

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                                      • hershie
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                                        • Jun 2002
                                        • 4642

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by SunTzu
                                        How long until Probilling, 2000Charge, Globill, Verotel, etc. follow?
                                        I don't imagine too long now.

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                                        • Gutterboy
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                                          • Jul 2002
                                          • 4751

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by ldinternet
                                          Looks like I need a new processor for my preteen molestation site. Any takers?
                                          JesusBill

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                                          • Digipimp
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                                            • Mar 2003
                                            • 13481

                                            #22
                                            I just got my email from them!

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                                            • Kimmykim
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                                              • Jun 2001
                                              • 16015

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Fletch XXX
                                              Hell cometh.
                                              And it's name is Compliance.

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                                              • X37375787

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by ldinternet
                                                Looks like I need a new processor for my preteen molestation site. Any takers?

                                                I hope for you that you're not fucking serious...

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                                                • gothweb
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by gruffy




                                                  Man, what is their fucking beef with bondage & penetration.

                                                  Bitches love it.
                                                  I don't get that either. Bondage is a stupidly common fetish activity among all sorts of people; people like to tie each other up and fuck. Why does that get lumped in with rape?

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                                                  • ldinternet
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Equinox
                                                    I hope for you that you're not fucking serious...
                                                    ldinternet : i'm just waiting for some dumbass to reply to my post in that acpay thread with something like "whoa, i hope you're not serious!" i swear, it will be a fucking bloodbath

                                                    Equinox : yeah i bet

                                                    Equinox : kill em all

                                                    ldinternet : seems like all the tards are creeping out of the woodwork recently

                                                    Equinox : tardy bastards

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                                                    • SexySarah
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                                                      • May 2003
                                                      • 1076

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by ldinternet


                                                      ldinternet : i'm just waiting for some dumbass to reply to my post in that acpay thread with something like "whoa, i hope you're not serious!" i swear, it will be a fucking bloodbath

                                                      Equinox : yeah i bet

                                                      Equinox : kill em all

                                                      ldinternet : seems like all the tards are creeping out of the woodwork recently

                                                      Equinox : tardy bastards

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                                                      DRAMA

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                                                      • ldinternet
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                                                        #28
                                                        Not just icq............ icq LITE!!!!!!!!!

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                                                        • SexySarah
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                                                          • May 2003
                                                          • 1076

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by ldinternet
                                                          Not just icq............ icq LITE!!!!!!!!!
                                                          holy macaroni

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                                                          • Kimmykim
                                                            bitchslapping zebras!!!!!
                                                            • Jun 2001
                                                            • 16015

                                                            #30
                                                            Hmmm, what Canadian bank is registering high risk merchants?

                                                            I just realized that you don't register Canadian merchants at this time since there are no Canadian banks?

                                                            What is going on here?

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                                                            • Tipsy
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                                                              • Jul 2001
                                                              • 6989

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by SunTzu


                                                              Too funny, I ran across this when I was checking on my contract too. They're still being decent about it, giving a discount if you're already registered with another processor. Hmm, how come the other guys aren't doing that?
                                                              Ummmm...no they're really not. They are charging $350 regardless of whether VISA are charging them or not. They're actually being VERY greedy.
                                                              Ignorance is never bliss.

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                                                              • Nysus
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                                                                • Aug 2001
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Kimmykim
                                                                Hmmm, what Canadian bank is registering high risk merchants?

                                                                I just realized that you don't register Canadian merchants at this time since there are no Canadian banks?

                                                                What is going on here?
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                                                                • gruffy
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                                                                  • Feb 2003
                                                                  • 776

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Kimmykim
                                                                  Hmmm, what Canadian bank is registering high risk merchants?

                                                                  I just realized that you don't register Canadian merchants at this time since there are no Canadian banks?

                                                                  What is going on here?

                                                                  Idiot tax on any Canadian webmaster who believe they have to give them anything.

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                                                                  • gruffy
                                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                                    • Feb 2003
                                                                    • 776

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Nysus


                                                                    We keep our money in pillows!

                                                                    Cheers,
                                                                    Matt

                                                                    Mine has been buried under the igloo for many moons.

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                                                                    • Theo
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                                                                      • May 2001
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      spacedog was right about ldinternet

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                                                                      • Kimmykim
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                                                                        • Jun 2001
                                                                        • 16015

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by gruffy



                                                                        Idiot tax on any Canadian webmaster who believe they have to give them anything.
                                                                        Interesting turn of phrase there.

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                                                                        • p00p
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by Kimmykim
                                                                          Hmmm, what Canadian bank is registering high risk merchants?

                                                                          I just realized that you don't register Canadian merchants at this time since there are no Canadian banks?

                                                                          What is going on here?
                                                                          KimmyKim, what do you suggest Canadian webmasters do? We are running out of processors to use Visa!
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                                                                          • SexySarah
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                                                                            • May 2003
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
                                                                            spacedog was right about ldinternet
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                                                                            • Sly_RJ
                                                                              Live Hard - Die Hard
                                                                              • Feb 2002
                                                                              • 17042

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by Tipsy


                                                                              Ummmm...no they're really not. They are charging $350 regardless of whether VISA are charging them or not. They're actually being VERY greedy.
                                                                              Umm... yes, they really are. The other processors are charging $750, regardless of whether or not you have already paid the Visa fees to another processor. AC Pay is saying "ok, we're not going to charge you the Visa fees since you have already been charged once. BUT, we still need to charge you the $350 bank fees."
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                                                                              • Kimmykim
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                                                                                • Jun 2001
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by p00p

                                                                                KimmyKim, what do you suggest Canadian webmasters do? We are running out of processors to use Visa!
                                                                                Get a US presence. Don't fiddle with that EU stuff.

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                                                                                • Tipsy
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                                                                                  • Jul 2001
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by Sly_RJ

                                                                                  Umm... yes, they really are. The other processors are charging $750, regardless of whether or not you have already paid the Visa fees to another processor. AC Pay is saying "ok, we're not going to charge you the Visa fees since you have already been charged once. BUT, we still need to charge you the $350 bank fees."
                                                                                  There was a couple of processors at least that DIDN'T charge the $750 if you were already registered when I was looking recently. I'm not going to search to see which but they are out there. The $350 is purely because ACPAY want $350 from people. No other reason to charge it.
                                                                                  Ignorance is never bliss.

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                                                                                  • SunTzu
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                                                                                    • May 2002
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by Tipsy


                                                                                    There was a couple of processors at least that DIDN'T charge the $750 if you were already registered when I was looking recently. I'm not going to search to see which but they are out there. The $350 is purely because ACPAY want $350 from people. No other reason to charge it.
                                                                                    Tipsy, would like to hear who those other processors are. So far every one has said the $750. fee is per processor. Jettis is the only one I know of now that is refunding the fees, as CCBill stopped their refunds.
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                                                                                    • Sly_RJ
                                                                                      Live Hard - Die Hard
                                                                                      • Feb 2002
                                                                                      • 17042

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by Tipsy


                                                                                      There was a couple of processors at least that DIDN'T charge the $750 if you were already registered when I was looking recently. I'm not going to search to see which but they are out there. The $350 is purely because ACPAY want $350 from people. No other reason to charge it.
                                                                                      CC Bill, and I believe Jettis as well. The fees were still paid, they were deducted from payouts over time, as I understand it. CC Bill got socked as well for doing that, which is why they stopped.
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                                                                                      • Tipsy
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by Sly_RJ

                                                                                        CC Bill, and I believe Jettis as well. The fees were still paid, they were deducted from payouts over time, as I understand it. CC Bill got socked as well for doing that, which is why they stopped.
                                                                                        Sorry but wrong. Look at CCBill again especially non-US. ACPay are charging $350 through greed and nothing else.
                                                                                        Ignorance is never bliss.

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                                                                                        • Tipsy
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by SunTzu


                                                                                          Tipsy, would like to hear who those other processors are. So far every one has said the $750. fee is per processor. Jettis is the only one I know of now that is refunding the fees, as CCBill stopped their refunds.
                                                                                          Must admit I may not have been clear enough and if so at fault. I was looking at it from a non-US point of view. However my point is still very valid. ACpay are charging everybody $350. They have no need to at the moment. Again, greed. For a good example of not charging $370, $750 or whatever for non-US go look at CCBill. The money isn't so much the point here as let's face it if you can't afford $350 you shouldn't be in business. However, that doesn't mean you'll want to give someone $350 just to line their pockets further.
                                                                                          Ignorance is never bliss.

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                                                                                          • hottoddy
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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by clubsexy
                                                                                            My friend chose ACpay to avoid the 750.00....

                                                                                            It almost looks like AC Pay tried to attract large numbers of webmasters by delaying this announcement. At first, they were extolling the virtues of their fee-less system. Bait & switch? I hope not ...
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                                                                                            • ServerGenius
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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              I guess the boards will be filled with bargains the coming weeks

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                                                                                              • p00p
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                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by hottoddy


                                                                                                It almost looks like AC Pay tried to attract large numbers of webmasters by delaying this announcement. At first, they were extolling the virtues of their fee-less system. Bait & switch? I hope not ...
                                                                                                http://www.aclounge.com/viewtopic.php?t=498
                                                                                                Imagine all the people that trusted them, and have affiliates, too, that are going to get fucked?
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                                                                                                • BJ
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                                                                                                  • SexySarah
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