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  • Donny
    As you wish...
    • May 2002
    • 13754

    #1

    When Will Designers Learn: Simple Galleries Convert Best

    Make it simple. The surfer doesn't care how cool your design is. This is one of my best converting galleries:

    http://www.ncggalleries.com/images/donny/brandice/

    The models not even cute. The gallery is just plain and straight forward.

    Here's another that converts well:

    http://www.ncggalleries.com/images/w...elle-04-05-03/

    SO simple...



  • juicylinks
    So Fucking Banned
    • Apr 2001
    • 122992

    #2
    lil2rich4u2 where u at? new galleries for ya

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    • European Lee
      Confirmed User
      • Dec 2002
      • 7133

      #3
      Originally posted by juicylinks
      lil2rich4u2 where u at? new galleries for ya
      LMAO

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      • nxventures
        Confirmed User
        • Mar 2003
        • 574

        #4
        You need to add some 1337 h4x0r DHTML and flash movies to that page. .
        SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

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        • Martin
          "Assassins"
          • Dec 2001
          • 17274

          #5
          I like simple too..

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          • Donny
            As you wish...
            • May 2002
            • 13754

            #6
            Originally posted by nxventures
            You need to add some 1337 h4x0r DHTML and flash movies to that page. .
            If my point was to waste bandwidth and convert nothing I'd do just what you suggest.

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            • SpaceAce
              Confirmed User
              • Jul 2002
              • 6493

              #7
              It's not all about conversions, though. I've made some galleries where the conversions aren't so hot but the enormous number of surfers pulled more than makes up for it.

              SpaceAce

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              • nxventures
                Confirmed User
                • Mar 2003
                • 574

                #8
                Originally posted by DonovanPhillips


                If my point was to waste bandwidth and convert nothing I'd do just what you suggest.

                Pah, you must be a newbie. What you need, are flash flyovers at least 4, and a DHTML page that sets itself as an active desktop. And also loud sounds that say HEY BUY THIS YOU PORN FREAK AND I WILL LET YOU CUM ALL OVER ME.

                Just tryin to help a brotha make a dolla bill in this binness.
                SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

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                • Pappa
                  Confirmed User
                  • Apr 2003
                  • 636

                  #9
                  Originally posted by juicylinks
                  lil2rich4u2 where u at? new galleries for ya


                  I bet lil2goodToCopySourceCode4u2 will be over to "study" them shortly.


                  Traffic Cash Gold!

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                  • dchottie
                    Confirmed User
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 894

                    #10
                    I agree that less is more. Some of my best converting galleries before I ever started building my own were Nasty Dollar galleries using their gallery builder.. You can't get any more plain than that but they converted damn well. I don't think it's so much the designer that is doing the graphics heavy flashy galleries I think that's more what the client wants. Usually those that don't or can't design opt to go for the really snazzy looks fantastic type of gallery and snub those that tend to make galleries a little less showy.

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                    • pantymaniac
                      Confirmed User
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 1192

                      #11
                      Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
                      Make it simple. The surfer doesn't care how cool your design is. This is one of my best converting galleries:

                      http://www.ncggalleries.com/images/donny/brandice/

                      The models not even cute. The gallery is just plain and straight forward.

                      Here's another that converts well:

                      http://www.ncggalleries.com/images/w...elle-04-05-03/

                      SO simple...



                      simplicity could work maybe in amat niche but
                      Himmm i dont agree at all .. did you ever tried with nice looking galleries like this ?

                      http://www.sextronix.com/gallhit.php...all=1051214857


                      This hosted gallery looks awesome for me ..
                      This place is for RENT

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                      • bigdaddyc187
                        So Fucking Banned
                        • Jan 2002
                        • 244

                        #12
                        Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
                        Make it simple. The surfer doesn't care how cool your design is. This is one of my best converting galleries:

                        http://www.ncggalleries.com/images/donny/brandice/

                        The models not even cute. The gallery is just plain and straight forward.

                        Here's another that converts well:

                        http://www.ncggalleries.com/images/w...elle-04-05-03/

                        SO simple...




                        I agree from my experiences, also if you are promoting a glamour type site I as a surfer wouldn't want a plain gallery.

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                        • Donny
                          As you wish...
                          • May 2002
                          • 13754

                          #13
                          Originally posted by pantymaniac



                          simplicity could work maybe in amat niche but
                          Himmm i dont agree at all .. did you ever tried with nice looking galleries like this ?

                          http://www.sextronix.com/gallhit.php...all=1051214857


                          This hosted gallery looks awesome for me ..

                          LOOKS being the key word in that last sentence. How does it convert? I've had galleries like that created for my site. They converted worse than anything I've ever tried.

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                          • SpaceAce
                            Confirmed User
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 6493

                            #14
                            Originally posted by pantymaniac

                            http://www.sextronix.com/gallhit.php...all=1051214857


                            This hosted gallery looks awesome for me ..
                            There is a lot of graphical work on that page, but I would still call that "simple". It is a straightforward, top-to-bottom and a fairly uncluttered layout.

                            SpaceAce

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                            • ldinternet
                              Confirmed User
                              • Apr 2001
                              • 8245

                              #15
                              Originally posted by juicylinks
                              lil2rich4u2 where u at? new galleries for ya

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                              • pantymaniac
                                Confirmed User
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 1192

                                #16
                                Originally posted by SpaceAce


                                There is a lot of graphical work on that page, but I would still call that "simple". It is a straightforward, top-to-bottom and a fairly uncluttered layout.

                                SpaceAce
                                Can you pls post and good , really kick ass hosted gallery exemple pls...
                                i put on my site

                                This place is for RENT

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                                • gruffy
                                  So Fucking Banned
                                  • Feb 2003
                                  • 776

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by pantymaniac



                                  simplicity could work maybe in amat niche but
                                  Himmm i dont agree at all .. did you ever tried with nice looking galleries like this ?

                                  http://www.sextronix.com/gallhit.php...all=1051214857


                                  This hosted gallery looks awesome for me ..


                                  Sweet! I got a 3MB DSL connection and that loads like 56k.

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                                  • pantymaniac
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Feb 2003
                                    • 1192

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by gruffy




                                    Sweet! I got a 3MB DSL connection and that loads like 56k.
                                    Well i have 56k Connection on my computer , top logo makes me wait for the rest
                                    This place is for RENT

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                                    • Trolleater
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Jun 2002
                                      • 1441

                                      #19
                                      I've been told my gallery designs convert very well ;)

                                      Samples:

                                      http://www.paysites4sale.com/gallerysamples.html

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                                      • pantymaniac
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Feb 2003
                                        • 1192

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Trolleater
                                        I've been told my gallery designs convert very well ;)

                                        Samples:

                                        http://www.paysites4sale.com/gallerysamples.html
                                        wohoo clean excellent work for me
                                        This place is for RENT

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                                        • Trolleater
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Jun 2002
                                          • 1441

                                          #21
                                          thanks

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                                          • Gutterboy
                                            So Fucking Banned
                                            • Jul 2002
                                            • 4751

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
                                            Make it simple. The surfer doesn't care how cool your design is. This is one of my best converting galleries:

                                            http://www.ncggalleries.com/images/donny/brandice/

                                            The models not even cute. The gallery is just plain and straight forward.

                                            Here's another that converts well:

                                            http://www.ncggalleries.com/images/w...elle-04-05-03/

                                            SO simple...



                                            On my first AVS site I flew the same lame ass newbie gallery design, every fucking day, for 3 years straight. 2 text links, 2 lines of text, 16 pics, and 3-4 recips on top. Converted great. really graet. Sure the conversions went down over time, but never by much.

                                            If I wasn't doing something more profitable now, I'd still be using it.
                                            Last edited by Gutterboy; 05-27-2003, 07:36 PM.

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                                            • Snake Doctor
                                              I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                                              • Mar 2001
                                              • 13449

                                              #23
                                              When did you become the expert on gallery conversions?

                                              My worst converting gallery might do better than your best converting gallery.
                                              Just because its "your" best doesn't mean its "the" best.

                                              And the gallery you posted has 16 pics and 7 sponsor links, it'd be kinda hard not to get clicks off of that, of course getting it listed and getting traffic to it is another story.
                                              sig too big

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                                              • DeanCapture
                                                Haters & Trolls SUCK!
                                                • Dec 2002
                                                • 9275

                                                #24
                                                Nice rack on this one - she's a little cutie

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                                                • Snake Doctor
                                                  I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                                                  • Mar 2001
                                                  • 13449

                                                  #25
                                                  Hey Donovan isn't this your gallery?
                                                  http://dirty4free.com/ncg/abigail/index.htm

                                                  I think we should all emulate your style and put 67 pics on each gallery, we'd all be making more money then
                                                  sig too big

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                                                  • Paul Markham
                                                    Too old to care
                                                    • Jun 2001
                                                    • 52942

                                                    #26
                                                    The situation with most people is they tend to think that what they are good at is the thing that matters most, in some instances it's all that matters. Unfortunately in life this is not always the case.

                                                    I think content is king, designers thinks design is, some think it's the concept of a site, a lot think traffic is.

                                                    Is this because the only way they can effect the the maount they earn is by improving what they are good at and ignotre the things they are weak at.

                                                    Design is important, but remember the guy with his CC out also has his dick out. So is he looking at the pretty logo and background or the chicks?

                                                    Traffic is important, but no matter how much you drive pass a pieca of shit it still stinks.

                                                    The concept is important, but you have to have the ability to present it in the right way so people understand it.

                                                    Content is important, but if no one sees it, who knows about it.

                                                    Everything is important, it's getting the right mix that matters.

                                                    DonovanPhillips
                                                    Those galleries convert because the girls look like real amatuers doing it for fun and not $$$. They are HONESTLY laid out, the tours shows what people are getting.



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                                                    • Paul Markham
                                                      Too old to care
                                                      • Jun 2001
                                                      • 52942

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Lenny2
                                                      Hey Donovan isn't this your gallery?
                                                      http://dirty4free.com/ncg/abigail/index.htm

                                                      I think we should all emulate your style and put 67 pics on each gallery, we'd all be making more money then
                                                      The thing is to the surfer looking to pay there are 15 pictures, he just repeated each one 4 times. Bad.



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                                                      • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
                                                        best designer on GFY
                                                        • Mar 2003
                                                        • 30307

                                                        #28
                                                        Whats design got to do with any of this?

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                                                        • Elli
                                                          Reach for those stars!
                                                          • Apr 2003
                                                          • 17991

                                                          #29
                                                          I've tried fancy and plain, and the middle ground seems to work best for me. This is my best converting gallery of all time. It's still doing great. Of course, it could be the content, too...

                                                          This gallery
                                                          email: [email protected]

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                                                          • KRL
                                                            Entrepreneur
                                                            • Oct 2002
                                                            • 31429

                                                            #30
                                                            It's all about the girl and her ability to make a sexually stimulating connection with the surfer.

                                                            Nothing else matters if that doesn't happen.
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                                                            • Bake
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Jan 2001
                                                              • 5916

                                                              #31
                                                              Simple galleries have there place , Good content that allmost tells the story for you allways helps. Very few use the most powerfull sales tool of all.
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                                                              • Elli
                                                                Reach for those stars!
                                                                • Apr 2003
                                                                • 17991

                                                                #32
                                                                So what IS the most powerful sales tool of all?
                                                                email: [email protected]

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                                                                • hyper
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Mar 2002
                                                                  • 5294

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Elli
                                                                  So what IS the most powerful sales tool of all?
                                                                  words

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                                                                  • Lee
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Aug 2002
                                                                    • 2977

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by pantymaniac


                                                                    Can you pls post and good , really kick ass hosted gallery exemple pls...
                                                                    i put on my site

                                                                    If you join the TLC Hosting program you can get all of the Donovan Philips galleries sent via mail. Plus a few other sponsors too.

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                                                                    • John3
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • May 2003
                                                                      • 1214

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
                                                                      Make it simple. The surfer doesn't care how cool your design is. This is one of my best converting galleries:

                                                                      http://www.ncggalleries.com/images/donny/brandice/

                                                                      The models not even cute. The gallery is just plain and straight forward.

                                                                      Here's another that converts well:

                                                                      http://www.ncggalleries.com/images/w...elle-04-05-03/

                                                                      SO simple...



                                                                      I was using that template back in 2000 for my Hun galleries. When did you start using it?

                                                                      Also, I used in in 1999 for my AL4A slots . . .

                                                                      Hook 'em.

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                                                                      • Theo
                                                                        HAL 9000
                                                                        • May 2001
                                                                        • 34515

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by KRL
                                                                        It's all about the girl
                                                                        or the boy


                                                                        donnovan,thanks for the mails,i didnt manage to reply to 2nd one cause the mailserver has some problem. Definitely i'll find a good use of them.

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                                                                        • Bake
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Jan 2001
                                                                          • 5916

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by Elli
                                                                          So what IS the most powerful sales tool of all?
                                                                          Curiosity
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                                                                          • flashfreak
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Jun 2002
                                                                            • 4396

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by John3

                                                                            I was using that template back in 2000 for my Hun galleries. When did you start using it?

                                                                            Also, I used in in 1999 for my AL4A slots . . .
                                                                            muauhahahahahah... donovanshittyphilips you started again to steal other people work?
                                                                            FUCK YOU ASSHOLE!
                                                                            FUCK YOU!!!


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                                                                            • Validus
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Jul 2001
                                                                              • 4012

                                                                              #39
                                                                              I believe that if a designer has a balanced work load, with some creative work and some more ?simpler? work he/she does a better job. Designers are by nature creative people and want to show it, therefore if they get a project they want to show their creative abilities. If at all possible, giving them 2 kinds of project is the best, such as TGP galleries and a new layout for the corporate web site. Just my thoughts.

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                                                                              • FlyingIguana
                                                                                aspiring banker
                                                                                • Mar 2002
                                                                                • 10870

                                                                                #40
                                                                                you mean surfers don't jerk off to fancy logo's? wtf?

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                                                                                • Ray@TastyDollars
                                                                                  • May 2002
                                                                                  • 6797

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by FlyingIguana
                                                                                  you mean surfers don't jerk off to fancy logo's? wtf?

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                                                                                  • AdultNex
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Feb 2003
                                                                                    • 8985

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by FlyingIguana
                                                                                    you mean surfers don't jerk off to fancy logo's? wtf?
                                                                                    Hell yeah, as a designer, I do.

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                                                                                    • natas
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Mar 2002
                                                                                      • 3377

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by FlyingIguana
                                                                                      you mean surfers don't jerk off to fancy logo's? wtf?
                                                                                      hahahaha

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                                                                                      • magnatique
                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                        • Jan 2001
                                                                                        • 1830

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        my two best galleries ever were way different..

                                                                                        one was totally HTML work... but different then the pack.. simpler, but not like everyone's...

                                                                                        the other one was graphical, with more graphic and a theme that went with the site..

                                                                                        but not simple..

                                                                                        I cannot sell simple... I tried.. not working for me ;)

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                                                                                        • MetaMan
                                                                                          I AM WEB 2.0
                                                                                          • Jan 2003
                                                                                          • 28682

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          when will u ever learn ur 20 teen sites wont converts,
                                                                                          shit new idea hoes on a bus.

                                                                                          ill call it Hoe Bus.

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                                                                                          • Donny
                                                                                            As you wish...
                                                                                            • May 2002
                                                                                            • 13754

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by Lenny2
                                                                                            Hey Donovan isn't this your gallery?
                                                                                            http://dirty4free.com/ncg/abigail/index.htm

                                                                                            I think we should all emulate your style and put 67 pics on each gallery, we'd all be making more money then
                                                                                            Let me tell you something about that gallery, dumb ass... it was a gamble that paid off. I took a LOT of heat for that gallery from the people on this board because I sent it to The Hun and got accepted. The Hun saw me getting chewed up here and emailed me personally asking about my conversions off of his traffic.

                                                                                            Since then, because of people like you that ripped on me, he's listed my galleries almost EVERY SINGLE DAY.

                                                                                            So, thanks for ripping me.

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                                                                                            • Donny
                                                                                              As you wish...
                                                                                              • May 2002
                                                                                              • 13754

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by flashfreak


                                                                                              muauhahahahahah... donovanshittyphilips you started again to steal other people work?
                                                                                              FUCK YOU ASSHOLE!
                                                                                              That gallery was created using Arles Image Web Page Creator and then adding some text.


                                                                                              NOT stolen asshole.

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                                                                                              • Snake Doctor
                                                                                                I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                                                                                                • Mar 2001
                                                                                                • 13449

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by DonovanPhillips


                                                                                                Let me tell you something about that gallery, dumb ass... it was a gamble that paid off. I took a LOT of heat for that gallery from the people on this board because I sent it to The Hun and got accepted. The Hun saw me getting chewed up here and emailed me personally asking about my conversions off of his traffic.

                                                                                                Since then, because of people like you that ripped on me, he's listed my galleries almost EVERY SINGLE DAY.

                                                                                                So, thanks for ripping me.

                                                                                                Yeah I remember that thread, you told us all to go fuck ourselves because you had 4 signups off of that hun listings and thought you were the bees knees.

                                                                                                4 signups off a hun listing and he's giving us advice on how to make galleries that convert.
                                                                                                sig too big

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                                                                                                • Angelonfire

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
                                                                                                  Make it simple. The surfer doesn't care how cool your design is. This is one of my best converting galleries:
                                                                                                  http://www.ncggalleries.com/images/donny/brandice/

                                                                                                  The models not even cute. The gallery is just plain and straight forward.
                                                                                                  Here's another that converts well:

                                                                                                  http://www.ncggalleries.com/images/w...elle-04-05-03/
                                                                                                  SO simple...


                                                                                                  I am happy to see this thread.... So many critizie about having fancy stuff... but amateur starts amateur its not static it growsssss... If you don't have the fancy stuff etc... some think you suck....

                                                                                                  start slowly but surely...

                                                                                                  THanks this is encouraging !!!

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                                                                                                  • Angelonfire

                                                                                                    #50
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