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  • buddyjuf
    • Nov 2026
    #1

    can a newbie start a paysite if he has alot of money?

    a newbie comes to you and says...
    (ehm, Im NOT that newbie)

    I wanna make it big in the porn industry, I have 20 000$ to invest.

    what do you answer (serious)?
    Last edited by Guest; 05-27-2003, 03:17 PM.
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    • boneprone
      Hall Of Fame
      • Jan 2001
      • 34415
      #2
      give me half and ill show you the path to journey.

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        • boneprone
          Hall Of Fame
          • Jan 2001
          • 34415
          #3
          Oh yeah and bet on the Blazers.

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            • Theo
              HAL 9000
              • May 2001
              • 34515
              #4
              he should save them for a porsche :-)

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                • AOLGuy
                  Confirmed User
                  • Oct 2002
                  • 1261
                  #5
                  for $20k you can create an empire if you spend it wisely.

                  I set myself up for less than half that, and could now do 10x more with that cash.

                  akfk at akfk.com

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                    • markell
                      Confirmed User
                      • Nov 2002
                      • 1190
                      #6
                      write me a check for $18,000 and ill take care of everything for you
                      blah blah fucking blah

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                        • RedShoe
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                          • Feb 2001
                          • 14831
                          #7
                          you say, give me the 20K, and I'll get you a paysite, and promo material and some traffic to get you going.

                          Hire a newbie designer at $800 for a tour, and members area.
                          Buy $5,000 in content from cheapest content provider.

                          Farm out some galleries, and banners.

                          Buy some cheap traffic.

                          Pocket the rest, and when he makes fewer sales than expected.. blame it on the Summer SlowDown.... Or whatever season it is.

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                            • EscortBiz
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                              • May 2002
                              • 19422
                              #8
                              in this biz its really knowing what you are doing more then the cash, but again without cash you cant do shit

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                                • buddyjuf
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by RedShoe
                                  blame it on the Summer SlowDown.... Or whatever season it is.
                                  I love it

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                                    • EscortBiz
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                                      • May 2002
                                      • 19422
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by RedShoe
                                      you say, give me the 20K, and I'll get you a paysite, and promo material and some traffic to get you going.

                                      Hire a newbie designer at $800 for a tour, and members area.
                                      Buy $5,000 in content from cheapest content provider.

                                      Farm out some galleries, and banners.

                                      Buy some cheap traffic.

                                      Pocket the rest, and when he makes fewer sales than expected.. blame it on the Summer SlowDown.... Or whatever season it is.
                                      He can also blame it on the third party biller

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                                        • scorpy
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Sep 2002
                                          • 457
                                          #11
                                          I guess it depends.
                                          I had 2 clients a few months ago... one had $5000 to spend... the other one $1800... the second one makes a lot more money now than the first one. I guess advertising is the key as they pratically had similar sites. Just my 2 cents

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                                            • NetRodent
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Jan 2002
                                              • 3985
                                              #12
                                              A fool and his money are soon parted. Tell him to learn the ins and outs of the industry before he spend more than pocket change.
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                                                • buddyjuf
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by EscortBiz


                                                  He can also blame it on the third party biller
                                                  not as convincing

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                                                    • gothweb
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Jun 2002
                                                      • 8849
                                                      #14
                                                      A newbie can start a paysite with $1000, so of course he can start one with $20,000... but no amount of money guarantees success.

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                                                        • harvey
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                                                          • Jul 2001
                                                          • 9266
                                                          #15
                                                          just wait a few days
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                                                            • John3
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                                                              • May 2003
                                                              • 1214
                                                              #16
                                                              I'd say give me 10,000 and we'll split the profits. But this "newbie" would have to agree not to get involved in any of the design or set-up.

                                                              Hook 'em.

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                                                                • RedShoe
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                                                                  • Feb 2001
                                                                  • 14831
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by gothweb
                                                                  A newbie can start a paysite with $1000, so of course he can start one with $20,000... but no amount of money guarantees success.
                                                                  Spoken like a true oldtimer.

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                                                                    • Angelonfire
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by gothweb
                                                                      A newbie can start a paysite with $1000, so of course he can start one with $20,000... but no amount of money guarantees success.
                                                                      You are damm right !!!

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                                                                        • Cindyff
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                                                                          • Sep 2002
                                                                          • 1187
                                                                          #19
                                                                          If they aren't willing to work hard $20,000 or $2,000 wont make any difference.
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                                                                            • Pornkings
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Oct 2002
                                                                              • 5334
                                                                              #20
                                                                              I've seen many companies come and go.
                                                                              I've also seen a company Called Hanco lose 5 mil in 6 months in this biz.

                                                                              But if you work hard and learn the biz you can make money its all about trust and relationships you build with people.

                                                                              anything is Possible good luck
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                                                                                • buddyjuf
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by Pornkings
                                                                                  I've seen many companies come and go.
                                                                                  I've also seen a company Called Hanco lose 5 mil in 6 months in this biz.

                                                                                  But if you work hard and learn the biz you can make money its all about trust and relationships you build with people.

                                                                                  anything is Possible good luck
                                                                                  holy fuck, how did they lose 5 mil?

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                                                                                    • stocktrader23
                                                                                      Let's do some business.
                                                                                      • Jan 2003
                                                                                      • 18781
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by bdjuf


                                                                                      holy fuck, how did they lose 5 mil?
                                                                                      It was tragic. They invested it all in short UIN numbers right before some Russian hackers put thousands of stolen UIN's on the market. Damn shame.


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                                                                                        • buddyjuf
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by stocktrader23


                                                                                          It was tragic. They invested it all in short UIN numbers right before some Russian hackers put thousands of stolen UIN's on the market. Damn shame.
                                                                                          whoa, now THAT is a crazy story

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                                                                                            • quiet
                                                                                              we'll miss you our friend. RIP
                                                                                              • Sep 2001
                                                                                              • 25115
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by EscortBiz
                                                                                              in this biz its really knowing what you are doing more then the cash, but again without cash you cant do shit
                                                                                              bingo
                                                                                              we'll miss you our friend. RIP

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                                                                                                • Trolleater
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                                                                                                  • Jun 2002
                                                                                                  • 1441
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  everything has to be done right

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                                                                                                    • Corleone
                                                                                                      C.R.E.A.M
                                                                                                      • Apr 2003
                                                                                                      • 15262
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      "never start with a paysite"

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                                                                                                        • Mr. Jim
                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                          • Mar 2003
                                                                                                          • 4372
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by Pornkings
                                                                                                          I've seen many companies come and go.
                                                                                                          I've also seen a company Called Hanco lose 5 mil in 6 months



                                                                                                          Ummm that may be the most infamous entry in the history of this biz

                                                                                                          Rog werent you going to try and pick up that monster booth at the fire sale???

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                                                                                                            • LeeNoga
                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                              • Jul 2001
                                                                                                              • 3043
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Yup, don't start with a paysite, its all about traffic, if they can get traffic, use the 20K and start affiliate program....otherwise invest less than 10K and be a webmaster with a head start.

                                                                                                              Unless of course, the paysite is draw name site with icon celeb porn stars that interact with the members :-)

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                                                                                                                • Mr. Jim
                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                  • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                  • 4372
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Few people really know what the real story is.

                                                                                                                  It was less than 5 mil and the reasons were not that complicated.

                                                                                                                  Many critical errors in the planning phases and just plain old fashioned bad management.

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                                                                                                                    • Jer
                                                                                                                      God is Brazilian
                                                                                                                      • Feb 2001
                                                                                                                      • 10601
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Corleone
                                                                                                                      "never start with a paysite"

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                                                                                                                        • FlyingIguana
                                                                                                                          aspiring banker
                                                                                                                          • Mar 2002
                                                                                                                          • 10870
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          start with free sites and avs sites first. don't even think about a paysite until at least 90 days. if you're still motivated to keep going and things are going well, then start planning for a paysite.

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                                                                                                                            • AmeliaG
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                                                                                                                              • Jan 2003
                                                                                                                              • 10680
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              $20,000 plus motivation plus a good idea really ought to equal a successful paysite. What I would advise would probably depend on how motivated I thought the person was and whether I thought they had a good idea for a paysite. With the right motivation and the right idea, you don't need $20k to launch, but, like the lady said . . . rich or poor, it's good to have money.
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                                                                                                                                • VirtuMike
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                                                                                                                                  • May 2002
                                                                                                                                  • 2483
                                                                                                                                  #33
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                                                                                                                                    • gothweb
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                                                                                                                                      • Jun 2002
                                                                                                                                      • 8849
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by RedShoe


                                                                                                                                      Spoken like a true oldtimer.
                                                                                                                                      Which is funny since I started my first adult project in 2001, and it was an amateur site featuring my girlfriend. I am pretty sure that I am still a newbie.

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                                                                                                                                        • hybrid
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                                                                                                                                          • Jul 2002
                                                                                                                                          • 3253
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Why exactly do you guys all agree that an AVS site is "safer" than a paysite?

                                                                                                                                          Are'nt they essentially the same thing?

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                                                                                                                                            • Reak
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                                                                                                                                              • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                                              • 17920
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by hybrid
                                                                                                                                              Why exactly do you guys all agree that an AVS site is "safer" than a paysite?

                                                                                                                                              Are'nt they essentially the same thing?
                                                                                                                                              Members stay longer?

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                                                                                                                                                • freeadultcontent
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                                                                                                                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                                                  • 9976
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by NetRodent
                                                                                                                                                  A fool and his money are soon parted.
                                                                                                                                                  A fool and his money should not have gotten together in the first place.

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                                                                                                                                                    • AmeliaG
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                                                                                                                                                      • Jan 2003
                                                                                                                                                      • 10680
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by hybrid
                                                                                                                                                      Why exactly do you guys all agree that an AVS site is "safer" than a paysite?

                                                                                                                                                      Are'nt they essentially the same thing?

                                                                                                                                                      I think you are right.
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                                                                                                                                                        • FlyingIguana
                                                                                                                                                          aspiring banker
                                                                                                                                                          • Mar 2002
                                                                                                                                                          • 10870
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by AmeliaG



                                                                                                                                                          I think you are right.
                                                                                                                                                          they're hardly the same thing...

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                                                                                                                                                            • Pappa
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                                                                                                                                                              • Apr 2003
                                                                                                                                                              • 636
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by EscortBiz
                                                                                                                                                              in this biz its really knowing what you are doing more then the cash, but again without cash you cant do shit
                                                                                                                                                              second that


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                                                                                                                                                                • Qumbus
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                                                                                                                                                                  • Apr 2003
                                                                                                                                                                  • 258
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  You can do alot, buy an adult turnkey site or something.
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                                                                                                                                                                    • Pornwolf
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                                                                                                                                                                      • Jan 2002
                                                                                                                                                                      • 22712
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      An avs can cost 0 dollars. It can use less content. It rebills without you even having to try to appease members.

                                                                                                                                                                      Paysites take work. AVS sites can too for some overachievers. But I think the real reason people should start with AVS is that the payout is the same as you would make on a new paysite. Sometimes the payout would be more... and all with less hassle and definitely less money.

                                                                                                                                                                      A newb would learn what it takes to drive traffic (the most important part of the game), convert and appease members before making the paysite investment.
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                                                                                                                                                                        • hybrid
                                                                                                                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                                          • Jul 2002
                                                                                                                                                                          • 3253
                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Thanks, Pornwolf

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