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  • theking
    Nice Kitty
    • Sep 2002
    • 21053
    #251
    Originally posted by Webby
    theking:

    OK.. I hear all this... I've sat down and read some of this stuff with those in the US whose chosen profession is healthcare. I doubt they would agree with you.

    This is not about people in these professions.. there are many .. well.. damned excellent people there with firm beliefs in what they are doing.. and they do it well.

    The bottom line is... education in the US is.. I dunno if it ever was high (I don't know the history of education in the US) ... but currently it is... well "not too good"! I suspect it was good at some point ... if you look at the numbers of folks who visited the US for further education, this was fairly high. But has kinda plunged in the last few years in preference to education in several other countries. (This ain't connected to 9/11 problems blah)

    In healthcare... sorry.. I just can't agree! The US has one of the worst healthcare systems in the western world. BUT.. again, I know a good few doctors there and it ain't them that are causing the problems.. tis the system.. it sinks to hell and back.
    Tis corrupt as hell and tied heavily to politics... but then, ya know all that!

    In "my Utopia" I know a couple of US docs... they sure as hell ain't got one ounce of sympathy for the US healthcare system! I had my ears bashed with this long enough with them! These are guys who tried damned hard to treat folks and are just totally pissed off with the system, - so they "escaped" and function well in "Utopia"
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    Education (including a college education) is available to all that have an average IQ and the will to attend. Scholarships...State and Federal grants...Job Study Programs...and student loans. No one in the USA is deprived of attending college. There is an abundance of health care...and free health care...it is just that not everyone has private insurance for health care and that is the squawk. The lack of ability for the poor to attend college is a myth...and the lack of health carre for the poor is a myth.

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    You said the above is dribble. I pointed out to you that it isn't. A college education and health care is available to all at little to no expense.

    Now you are switching to quality of education and quality of health care. Well...OK.

    The United States used to be number one in the world for literacy and may still be. The quality of lower education has been on the decline since the sixties and there are a multitude of reasons for this and could be corrected if the powers that be would get serious about it and I think that, at some point in time, with further decline they will get serious about it. It is not a lack of funding that is the primary problem with lower education...but in some parts of the nation more funding would be useful.

    I do not know it to be fact, but I suspect that more people from other countries attend our Universities than any country on the earth.

    The quality of health care in the USA is as good as any. The USA pretty much leads the field in medical technology and procedures. The wealthy from all around the world still come to the USA for treatment (which is not to say that some do not go to a few other countries).
    Last edited by theking; 05-27-2003, 12:23 AM.
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      • Webby
        Too lazy to set a custom title
        • Oct 2002
        • 14956
        #252
        None of that is going to happen because the United States will prevent it from being possible..... and so on....

        A mixture of still more assumptions and some... I dunno where ya get this... but a big load of confidence in your government to be a cure all. They seem to think so as well, and good luck to em - but I'd be wary of this unqualified optimism. Sounds like a small pin may burst that balloon...
        XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.

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          • funkmaster
            So Fucking Banned
            • Sep 2001
            • 7938
            #253
            can´t we just agree on that america is the most superior country on earth and close this thread ??

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              • MetaMan
                I AM WEB 2.0
                • Jan 2003
                • 28682
                #254
                why do so many people actually respond to pages and pages of the same dum shit other people are saying.

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                  • kenny
                    Confirmed User
                    • Mar 2002
                    • 7245
                    #255
                    Originally posted by Webby



                    A mixture of still more assumptions and some... I dunno where ya get this... but a big load of confidence in your government to be a cure all. They seem to think so as well, and good luck to em - but I'd be wary of this unqualified optimism. Sounds like a small pin may burst that balloon...

                    Well I don't what you are thinking, but at least they are attemping to do something about. I think that is better then pretending that it will go away. Anyway I am through with this thread..
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                      • Webby
                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                        • Oct 2002
                        • 14956
                        #256
                        Oh hell! *g*

                        Now you are switching to quality of education and quality of health care. Well...OK.
                        I originally raised both health and education as a subject the Admin needed to address... you assume we drop one?

                        The United States used to be number one in the world for literacy and may still be.
                        DUH? *lol* When was that??? And no, it sure is not the top for "literacy in the world"!! *LOL* Gee.. I sure wish it was sometimes! Where the hell did you ever even suspect that was the case?? That idiot Bush utter that claim?? *lol*

                        I do not know it to be fact, but I suspect that more people from other countries attend our Universities than any country on the earth.
                        No.. more misconceptions... neither is this accurate in numbers of attendees or pro rata institutions. The current situation is that US colleges are finding it harder without the fees contributed by foreign students. The UK has more foreign students than anyone, followed by France and Spain. US used to be up the scale, but the standard of degrees where not acceptable to many foreign companies as employers of potential graduates.

                        The quality of health care in the USA is as good as any.
                        That is not a measure of anything. It still regularly peaks betwen 34th - 36th on the ratings, even behind that of several "supposed" third world countries. You know.. these "shit countries" some people talk about in ignorance. But yes, there are been much valuable research in the US in the middle of a load of bullshit.
                        XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.

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                          • Webby
                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                            • Oct 2002
                            • 14956
                            #257
                            Well I don't what you are thinking, but at least they are attemping to do something about. I think that is better then pretending that it will go away. Anyway I am through with this thread..
                            The US Admin has done fuck all about anything unless ya include lying, breaking treaties to suit the occasion, and hyping paranoia to a level not seen since McCarthy.. They live off this. Tis the most 'unfree democracy'... (odd the way this word is misused).. in the Western world.

                            In the process they have killed their own citizens and thousands from other countries and just *cannot* do anything constructive in the aftermath - this would be alien to the "doctrine". They ain't killed off any terrorism, never mind found the "perp", but have incited terrorism. So if ya call that "doing something" - I'd prefer your Admin shut the fuck up and stay strictly within US territory cos they ain't able to handle the "real world".
                            XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.

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                              • Theo
                                HAL 9000
                                • May 2001
                                • 34515
                                #258
                                Mohammad Khatami has been the president of Iran for the last years. He is far from conservative or religion freak. He is opposed to all religion freaks that still have power in his country and tries to changes things. Here's some info about him
                                http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/1373476.stm

                                Of course Mr.Bush can deal better with these situations.

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                                  • Webby
                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                    • Oct 2002
                                    • 14956
                                    #259
                                    Soul_Rebel:

                                    I agree!! Georgie has MUCH more intelligence and they tell me he is a good Christian man as well (tho, ain't seen one shred of that in over two years).... So I'm sure he will have another "cure all" for Iran!
                                    XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.

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                                      • sacX
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Dec 2002
                                        • 2998
                                        #260
                                        In healthcare... sorry.. I just can't agree! The US has one of the worst healthcare systems in the western world. BUT.. again
                                        I have a medical backgrund, and actually some of the reforms GWB has in place for healthcare sound excellent. That is putting healthcare back in the hands of Dr's as opposed to the damned litigation lawyers.

                                        I am not from the United States, but healthcare in the US is probably the best in the world. It is not the most efficient, but if you are covered by insurance you won't get better healthcare anywhere else on average.
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                                          • ogangsta
                                            Registered User
                                            • May 2003
                                            • 5
                                            #261
                                            Originally posted by funkmaster
                                            can´t we just agree on that america is the most superior country on earth and close this thread ??
                                            HAHAH ROFL what a fucking idiot ...
                                            you think I'ma come this far and let you assholez stop me now ?

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                                              • Lykos
                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                • Apr 2003
                                                • 31027
                                                #262
                                                Originally posted by Joe Sixpack
                                                http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/....us/index.html

                                                "WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The Bush administration is considering taking a hard-line approach toward the government of Iran that could include efforts to destabilize Tehran's Islamic regime, a State Department official told CNN on Sunday..."
                                                Soo true......

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                                                  • Theo
                                                    HAL 9000
                                                    • May 2001
                                                    • 34515
                                                    #263
                                                    another gangsta here? check sig!

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                                                      • Paul Markham
                                                        Too old to care
                                                        • Jun 2001
                                                        • 52942
                                                        #264
                                                        Originally posted by theking


                                                        Please make a list of all of the Politicians that receive money from Israel's backers...and the amount received and the donor. If you cannot list all of them...the amount and the donor...then list just five.
                                                        Well here is your list, sorry I did not come back straight away but I have a life outside GFY

                                                        Top Ten Senate Recipients of Pro-Israel PAC Funds

                                                        Current Election Cycle

                                                        Johnson, Tim (D-SD) 86,165

                                                        Levin, Carl (D-MI) 84,529

                                                        Baucus, Max (D-MT) 84,100

                                                        Durbin, Richard (D-IL) 76,000

                                                        Cleland, Max (D-GA) 69,750

                                                        McConnell, Mitch (R-KY) 62,000

                                                        Carnahan, Jean (D-MO) 45,500

                                                        Harkin, Tom (D-IA) 44,750

                                                        Smith, Robert (R-NH) 40,430

                                                        Smith, Gordon (R-OR) 39,839

                                                        Career

                                                        Levin, Carl (D-MI) 649,387

                                                        Harkin, Tom (D-IA) 506,450

                                                        Daschle, Tom (D-SD) 463,135

                                                        Specter, Arlen (R-PA) 381,623

                                                        McConnell, Mitch (R-KY) 347,425

                                                        Durbin, Richard (D-IL) 321,671

                                                        Baucus, Max (D-MT) 316,348

                                                        Bingaman, Jeff (D-NM) 261,425

                                                        Robb, Charles (D-VA) 255,093

                                                        Reid, Harry (D-NV) 253,802

                                                        Top Ten House Recipients of Pro-Israel PAC Funds

                                                        Current Election Cycle

                                                        Davis, Artur (D-AL) 63,067

                                                        Berkley, Shelley (D-NV) 39,345

                                                        Cantor, Eric (R-VA) 29,280

                                                        Gephardt, Richard (D-MO) 23,415

                                                        Hastert, J. Dennis (R-IL) 22,000

                                                        Cardoza, Dennis (D-CA) 15,500

                                                        Pelosi, Nancy (D-CA) 15,000

                                                        Harman, Jane (D-CA) 14,500

                                                        Levin, Sander (D-MI) 13,500

                                                        Rothman, Steven (D-NJ) 13,500

                                                        Career

                                                        Gejdenson, Sam (D-CT) 335,601

                                                        Gephardt, Richard (D-MO) 158,295

                                                        Obey, David (D-WI) 149,100

                                                        Berkley, Shelley (D-NV) 139,755

                                                        Frost, Martin (D-TX) 131,364

                                                        Engel, Eliot (D-NY) 108,668

                                                        Levin, Sander (D-MI) 100,027

                                                        Lowey, Nita (D-NY) 88,088

                                                        Gilman, Benjamin (R-NY) 84,543

                                                        Evans, Lane (D-IL) 79,629

                                                        From this page, it took me all of 10 minutes to find it.

                                                        http://www.wrmea.com/archives/november02/0211026.html

                                                        I await your apology.
                                                        Last edited by Paul Markham; 05-27-2003, 03:10 AM.



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                                                          • Paul Markham
                                                            Too old to care
                                                            • Jun 2001
                                                            • 52942
                                                            #265
                                                            Originally posted by theking


                                                            The United States used to be number one in the world for literacy and may still be. The quality of lower education has been on the decline since the sixties and there are a multitude of reasons for this and could be corrected if the powers that be would get serious about it and I think that, at some point in time, with further decline they will get serious about it. It is not a lack of funding that is the primary problem with lower education...but in some parts of the nation more funding would be useful.

                                                            I do not know it to be fact, but I suspect that more people from other countries attend our Universities than any country on the earth.
                                                            OK your turn now, show us the literacy list that put's the US at the top.

                                                            And as usual stating what you think rather than what you know. Again show us the list.



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                                                              • evilpurple
                                                                Registered User
                                                                • Apr 2003
                                                                • 95
                                                                #266
                                                                Originally posted by theking


                                                                The point about 9/11 is not where individual hijackers come from. The point of 9/11 is...attacks on the continental USA will not be tolerated...and the terrorists are from Muslim countries.

                                                                There were multiple reasons for the invasion of Iraq and one of those reasons was to send a message to the Muslim countries...get your act together or face the consequences. The USA will dismantle every Muslim country, one by one, if they are perceived to be hostile towards the USA...including Saudi Arabia.
                                                                And the above is a perfect example of why Bush is widely seen, not only in the Middle East but in Europe as well, as the greatest threat to world peace for decades.

                                                                It is also a perfect example of why the US face a terror threat. That kind of attitude of "we will reshape the world whichever way we please" is what have made it easy for the terrorists to recruit. With the invasion of Iraq in blatant violation of international law, all the terror groups and fundamentalist groups can for years keep on pointing to the Afghanistan and Iraq wars as proof of what they have been saying for decades: That US is anti Islam and only care about Israel.

                                                                Far from creating safety for the US, the Bush approach is making it so much easier for the terrorists to proliferate. The Bush administration fail to recognise that threat of dying in battle against the US is not seen as a threat by a muslim fundamentalist who believe that dying in holy war means immediate ascension to paradise, and that anything seen as US aggression against Islam makes it easier for fundamentalist clerics and terrorists to justify any and all violence against US interests as holy war.

                                                                Fighting against someone who have decided to take up arms because they believe in a cause and consider it an honour to die for the cause is a whole lot different from fighting against a drafted or hired regular army.
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                                                                  • evilpurple
                                                                    Registered User
                                                                    • Apr 2003
                                                                    • 95
                                                                    #267
                                                                    Originally posted by kenny
                                                                    United States wants to destroy terroism. Iraq was a key role in the war on terroism. Countries that support terroism in any shape or form will be changed one way or the other. After Bush is out of the office the war will continue. As long as the majority of americans support this war it will last until the objective is complete. If the goverments of some countries want to harbor terror, finace terror, not support anti-terror legistration then those countries need a new goverment. The american people want terror to be defeated, americans volunteer to fight, and are proud to fight for this purpose.
                                                                    For people who don't like it, if the only thing they can do is sterotype half a billion people as sheep. Then they already lost the argument. The united states is the worlds super power, the mass majority of people in this country enjoy living here. There is nothing that anybody can do about it.
                                                                    One mans terror is another mans freedom fight. The US is being targetted because it has been an active supporter of oppression and an agressor in countless military conflicts. As long as the US keep that up, the terrorists will have an easy job recruiting, for exactly the same reason you believe that the US government will keep on fighting against terror. These people don't blow up Americans for fun, they do it because they see it as their only weapon against American aggression.

                                                                    Their immediate reason for hating the US may be varied. For some it is the one sided support for Istrael in the ongoing Israeli-Palestinian war. For others it is the from their viewpoint infidel US forces on holy muslim ground (Saudi Arabia has two of Islams most holy sites), or US aggression against Afghanistan and Iraq, or the US support for the hated Shah of Iran, or past US support for Saddam, or US (CIA) support in overthrowing Indonesias elected government in the 60's, resulting in a prolonged military dictatorship (which, in addition to hurting the muslim majority also was a key factor in the genocide of half a million east timorese)

                                                                    But for many it results in seeing the US as a dangerous oppressive force that must be defeated at all cost.

                                                                    To many of them, YOU are the terrorists, and the groups you fight are freedom fighters. They want you stopped as much as you want them stop.

                                                                    That cycle won't end just by killing a few terrorists. It will stop first when the US government stops creating an environment that makes it so easy for the terrorists to recruit.
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                                                                      • Paul Markham
                                                                        Too old to care
                                                                        • Jun 2001
                                                                        • 52942
                                                                        #268
                                                                        evilpurple
                                                                        It is very simple, when the Muslims give as much money to the politicians as the Jews it will turn around until them it will stay as it is.

                                                                        And it's the same for us, when we out contribute the religious right, we will also be left alone.

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                                                                          • KRL
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                                                                            • Oct 2002
                                                                            • 31429
                                                                            #269
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                                                                              • evilpurple
                                                                                Registered User
                                                                                • Apr 2003
                                                                                • 95
                                                                                #270
                                                                                Originally posted by slavdogg
                                                                                we have planty of unsettle scores with Iran
                                                                                - Cobal towers in Saudi Arabia, bombed by Iranians
                                                                                - in 83 Iranian backed Hesbulla in Lebanon killed 100s of our Marines

                                                                                plus Israeli Embassy bombings in Argentian in mid 90s
                                                                                I guess that might be considered payback for the US support for the murderous dictatorship of the Shah of Iran, and for the Israeli illegal occupation of Palestine and terror against the palestinian people.

                                                                                The more you meddle, the more aggressive you have to expect peoples response to be.
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                                                                                  • 12clicks
                                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                    • Jan 2001
                                                                                    • 19814
                                                                                    #271
                                                                                    Its so funny watching the US bashers at work. Like it makes a fucking difference.
                                                                                    charly, I didn't know you were a jew hater. or are you just dopey?
                                                                                    Israel has been a staunch supporter of the US and visa versa. They also don't commit terrrorist attacks on americans.
                                                                                    You guys are so dopey, I gotta meet a handfull of you some day. please, scrape together a years worth of your net earnings and take the bus to a show so I can see what kind of person thinks like this.
                                                                                    I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                                      • directfiesta
                                                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                        • Oct 2002
                                                                                        • 30176
                                                                                        #272
                                                                                        Originally posted by 12clicks

                                                                                        charly, I didn't know you were a jew hater. or are you just dopey?
                                                                                        Israel has been a staunch supporter of the US and visa versa. They also don't commit terrrorist attacks on americans.
                                                                                        Where do you see that Charly is a " Jew hater" ????

                                                                                        If you do not support the US policy on the middle east or Israel policy you become automatically a " Jew hater"...

                                                                                        I can't understand how, by merely looking at the history ( the real one, not the one doctored by GFY posters), you can't realize that all Middle East conflicts started with the creation of Israel.

                                                                                        At the beginning, it wasn't Israel doing the problems, but since they sure learned the methods of terrorism....

                                                                                        Obviously, you are of Jewish descent, and don't have the capacity to analyse the whole picture....


                                                                                        PS to TheKing: did you die???? or did Charly shoved a ButtPlug up your ... mouth...lol
                                                                                        I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                                                                                        But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                                                                                          • Paul Markham
                                                                                            Too old to care
                                                                                            • Jun 2001
                                                                                            • 52942
                                                                                            #273
                                                                                            Originally posted by 12clicks
                                                                                            Its so funny watching the US bashers at work. Like it makes a fucking difference.
                                                                                            charly, I didn't know you were a jew hater. or are you just dopey?
                                                                                            Israel has been a staunch supporter of the US and visa versa. They also don't commit terrrorist attacks on americans.
                                                                                            You guys are so dopey, I gotta meet a handfull of you some day. please, scrape together a years worth of your net earnings and take the bus to a show so I can see what kind of person thinks like this.
                                                                                            I am not bashing the US, nor do I hate Jews, being 1/4 jewish myself.

                                                                                            It is the direction your President has taken the US which we hate. No Israel does not commit terrorist attacks on the US, it does so on Palestine instead.

                                                                                            You could have met me at the last three Vegas show, the last three Amsterdam shows, the last two Berlin shows and the next Miami show.

                                                                                            The amount of money you make is not going to make you any more or less right.

                                                                                            directfiesta
                                                                                            You have to remember, "If you are not for us you are against us" or words to that effect.
                                                                                            This is nothing new Macarthy who was nothing but a spineless bully, made a name for himself persecuting people for their beleifs or his perception of their beliefs. And it has carried on, if we critcise Bush we are therefore US Haters or communists, if we criticise their policy in the Middle East we are anti semetic. I have a lot of admiration for the European Jews who pushed out the British by acts of terrorism. Or is the murderer of an unarmed soldier a "Freedom Fighter" even when the killer is not from the country he is trying to liberate?
                                                                                            Sticky one that.
                                                                                            Last edited by Paul Markham; 05-27-2003, 05:39 AM.



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                                                                                              • Troels
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                                                                                                • May 2002
                                                                                                • 1035
                                                                                                #274
                                                                                                Literacy in US is only 97%
                                                                                                http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/...k/geos/us.html

                                                                                                Most other western countries have 100% or 99% according to CIA

                                                                                                I don't think it's a secret that the US generally have an elite of scholars that is unrivaled in the whole world in terms of quality and especially quantity - however, the basic education in the US is poor compared to other western countries.
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                                                                                                  • Paul Markham
                                                                                                    Too old to care
                                                                                                    • Jun 2001
                                                                                                    • 52942
                                                                                                    #275
                                                                                                    PS to TheKing: did you die???? or did Charly shoved a ButtPlug up your ... mouth...lol
                                                                                                    I'm sure he will be back soon, you don't frighten a boy like him this easily. He might be watching TV like I was last night, or down the unemployment office getting his check, lots of options.



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                                                                                                      • SexySarah
                                                                                                        So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                        • May 2003
                                                                                                        • 1076
                                                                                                        #276
                                                                                                        Originally posted by charly
                                                                                                        I have a lot of admiration for the European Jews who pushed out the British by acts of terrorism.

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                                                                                                          • SexySarah
                                                                                                            So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                            • May 2003
                                                                                                            • 1076
                                                                                                            #277
                                                                                                            12clicks is a funny guy

                                                                                                            he runs a click brokerage and that makes his opinion the word of god

                                                                                                            doesn't bill gates vote democrat?

                                                                                                            if money is the mark of your worth, 12clicks really is a very small fish

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                                                                                                              • Thrawn$
                                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                                • Apr 2002
                                                                                                                • 4596
                                                                                                                #278
                                                                                                                Originally posted by charly
                                                                                                                Well here is your list, sorry I did not come back straight away but I have a life outside GFY

                                                                                                                Top Ten Senate Recipients of Pro-Israel PAC Funds

                                                                                                                Current Election Cycle

                                                                                                                Johnson, Tim (D-SD) 86,165

                                                                                                                Levin, Carl (D-MI) 84,529

                                                                                                                Baucus, Max (D-MT) 84,100

                                                                                                                Durbin, Richard (D-IL) 76,000

                                                                                                                Cleland, Max (D-GA) 69,750

                                                                                                                McConnell, Mitch (R-KY) 62,000

                                                                                                                Carnahan, Jean (D-MO) 45,500

                                                                                                                Harkin, Tom (D-IA) 44,750

                                                                                                                Smith, Robert (R-NH) 40,430

                                                                                                                Smith, Gordon (R-OR) 39,839

                                                                                                                Career

                                                                                                                Levin, Carl (D-MI) 649,387

                                                                                                                Harkin, Tom (D-IA) 506,450

                                                                                                                Daschle, Tom (D-SD) 463,135

                                                                                                                Specter, Arlen (R-PA) 381,623

                                                                                                                McConnell, Mitch (R-KY) 347,425

                                                                                                                Durbin, Richard (D-IL) 321,671

                                                                                                                Baucus, Max (D-MT) 316,348

                                                                                                                Bingaman, Jeff (D-NM) 261,425

                                                                                                                Robb, Charles (D-VA) 255,093

                                                                                                                Reid, Harry (D-NV) 253,802

                                                                                                                Top Ten House Recipients of Pro-Israel PAC Funds

                                                                                                                Current Election Cycle

                                                                                                                Davis, Artur (D-AL) 63,067

                                                                                                                Berkley, Shelley (D-NV) 39,345

                                                                                                                Cantor, Eric (R-VA) 29,280

                                                                                                                Gephardt, Richard (D-MO) 23,415

                                                                                                                Hastert, J. Dennis (R-IL) 22,000

                                                                                                                Cardoza, Dennis (D-CA) 15,500

                                                                                                                Pelosi, Nancy (D-CA) 15,000

                                                                                                                Harman, Jane (D-CA) 14,500

                                                                                                                Levin, Sander (D-MI) 13,500

                                                                                                                Rothman, Steven (D-NJ) 13,500

                                                                                                                Career

                                                                                                                Gejdenson, Sam (D-CT) 335,601

                                                                                                                Gephardt, Richard (D-MO) 158,295

                                                                                                                Obey, David (D-WI) 149,100

                                                                                                                Berkley, Shelley (D-NV) 139,755

                                                                                                                Frost, Martin (D-TX) 131,364

                                                                                                                Engel, Eliot (D-NY) 108,668

                                                                                                                Levin, Sander (D-MI) 100,027

                                                                                                                Lowey, Nita (D-NY) 88,088

                                                                                                                Gilman, Benjamin (R-NY) 84,543

                                                                                                                Evans, Lane (D-IL) 79,629

                                                                                                                From this page, it took me all of 10 minutes to find it.

                                                                                                                http://www.wrmea.com/archives/november02/0211026.html

                                                                                                                I await your apology.

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                                                                                                                  • SexySarah
                                                                                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                    • May 2003
                                                                                                                    • 1076
                                                                                                                    #279
                                                                                                                    theking will never apologize

                                                                                                                    because theking is never wrong



                                                                                                                    i think he's on the bush payroll to set all these nasty misguided pornographers right about the world

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                                                                                                                      • 12clicks
                                                                                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                        • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                        • 19814
                                                                                                                        #280
                                                                                                                        Originally posted by SexySarah
                                                                                                                        12clicks is a funny guy

                                                                                                                        he runs a click brokerage and that makes his opinion the word of god

                                                                                                                        doesn't bill gates vote democrat?

                                                                                                                        if money is the mark of your worth, 12clicks really is a very small fish
                                                                                                                        I'm sure there is a point to this drivel. Can someone find it for me?
                                                                                                                        I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                                                                          • SexySarah
                                                                                                                            So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                            • May 2003
                                                                                                                            • 1076
                                                                                                                            #281
                                                                                                                            Originally posted by 12clicks


                                                                                                                            I'm sure there is a point to this drivel. Can someone find it for me?
                                                                                                                            try harder little fish

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                                                                                                                              • Paul Markham
                                                                                                                                Too old to care
                                                                                                                                • Jun 2001
                                                                                                                                • 52942
                                                                                                                                #282
                                                                                                                                Originally posted by SexySarah


                                                                                                                                You did know that after the war the Jewish people from middle Europe and Russia made a mass Exodus to Palestine and started a terrorist war with the occupying British there?

                                                                                                                                Not sure the mix of the population at the time, but Europeans Jews made a big effort to alter the mix by immigrating to Palestine.

                                                                                                                                Now watch the news and see the biggest troublemakers are the Orthodox Jews in their black coats, hats and long hair. Very Middle Eastern or is it Middle European? Those guys look like they are straight out of Prague. Hang on thats not true, there Dads were.

                                                                                                                                Well got to go to the pictures, see you all later, sure this thread will still be here.



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                                                                                                                                  • [Labret]
                                                                                                                                    Registered User
                                                                                                                                    • May 2001
                                                                                                                                    • 10945
                                                                                                                                    #283
                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by 12clicks

                                                                                                                                    Israel has been a staunch supporter of the US and visa versa.


                                                                                                                                    For the several billion we have given them over the years, they better be a "staunch" supporter. They should be over here personally digging the lint out of my ass crack.


                                                                                                                                    They also don't commit terrrorist attacks on americans.


                                                                                                                                    Neither do Norway or Spain. Your point?

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                                                                                                                                      • SexySarah
                                                                                                                                        So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                        • May 2003
                                                                                                                                        • 1076
                                                                                                                                        #284
                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by charly
                                                                                                                                        You did know that after the war the Jewish people from middle Europe and Russia made a mass Exodus to Palestine and started a terrorist war with the occupying British there?

                                                                                                                                        Not sure the mix of the population at the time, but Europeans Jews made a big effort to alter the mix by immigrating to Palestine.

                                                                                                                                        Now watch the news and see the biggest troublemakers are the Orthodox Jews in their black coats, hats and long hair. Very Middle Eastern or is it Middle European? Those guys look like they are straight out of Prague. Hang on thats not true, there Dads were.

                                                                                                                                        Well got to go to the pictures, see you all later, sure this thread will still be here.

                                                                                                                                        but paul, they're on our side so they weren't terrorists, they were freedom fighters

                                                                                                                                        that's important to remember

                                                                                                                                        especially when we're shooting all those <strike>freedom fighters</strike> terrorists in afghanistan, iraq, and wherever else we feel like

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                                                                                                                                          • 12clicks
                                                                                                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                            • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                                            • 19814
                                                                                                                                            #285
                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by charly
                                                                                                                                            I am not bashing the US, nor do I hate Jews, being 1/4 jewish myself.

                                                                                                                                            It is the direction your President has taken the US which we hate. No Israel does not commit terrorist attacks on the US, it does so on Palestine instead.
                                                                                                                                            how silly. Is that how you see it charly? please show me the news agency pics of israel running people into gaza with a backpack of explosives.
                                                                                                                                            The government of israel keeps coming to the negotiating table and palestinians keep blowing up civilians.
                                                                                                                                            It's so odd yet so telling that you and your kind explain how terrorists are always right and its the modern civilizations moving forward that are wrong.

                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by charly
                                                                                                                                            You could have met me at the last three Vegas show, the last three Amsterdam shows, the last two Berlin shows and the next Miami show.
                                                                                                                                            I'll keep my eye out for you but appearently, we don't travel in the same circles.

                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by charly
                                                                                                                                            The amount of money you make is not going to make you any more or less right.
                                                                                                                                            what does money have to do with anything?

                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by charly
                                                                                                                                            directfiesta
                                                                                                                                            You have to remember, "If you are not for us you are against us" or words to that effect.
                                                                                                                                            Yes, there really is no room for you terrorist sympathizers in America.

                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by charly
                                                                                                                                            This is nothing new Macarthy who was nothing but a spineless bully, made a name for himself persecuting people for their beleifs or his perception of their beliefs.
                                                                                                                                            Yes charly, lets cloud the issue with your irrelevant statements on mcarthyism
                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by charly
                                                                                                                                            And it has carried on, if we critcise Bush we are therefore US Haters or communists,
                                                                                                                                            no, I just consider you simple.
                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by charly
                                                                                                                                            if we criticise their policy in the Middle East we are anti semetic.
                                                                                                                                            No, you are anti-semetic and that causes your critisism.
                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by charly
                                                                                                                                            I have a lot of admiration for the European Jews who pushed out the British by acts of terrorism. Or is the murderer of an unarmed soldier a "Freedom Fighter" even when the killer is not from the country he is trying to liberate?
                                                                                                                                            Sticky one that.
                                                                                                                                            sticky for simpletons perhaps. Terrorism is terrorism. The response to terrorism is self defense. Don't like the self defense? don't commit the terror.
                                                                                                                                            I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                                                                                              • mule
                                                                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                • Jan 2002
                                                                                                                                                • 6085
                                                                                                                                                #286
                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by SexySarah
                                                                                                                                                theking will never apologize

                                                                                                                                                because theking is never wrong



                                                                                                                                                i think he's on the bush payroll to set all these nasty misguided pornographers right about the world
                                                                                                                                                Absolutely.
                                                                                                                                                What most people fail to realise, though, is that theking is not a sentient being. It's actually a program hosted on the same server as the original version of the Patriot Act. Theking is in beta at the moment. The alpha version, codename Pathfinder, suffered a serious malfunction when its logic circuits burnt out. Strangely enough the programmers just decided to leave logic out of the loop when theking was coded.
                                                                                                                                                It has been reported that the final release, codename villageidiot, is ready for release soon.
                                                                                                                                                Converting like a mofo

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                                                                                                                                                  • SexySarah
                                                                                                                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                    • May 2003
                                                                                                                                                    • 1076
                                                                                                                                                    #287
                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by mule

                                                                                                                                                    Absolutely.
                                                                                                                                                    What most people fail to realise, though, is that theking is not a sentient being. It's actually a program hosted on the same server as the original version of the Patriot Act. Theking is in beta at the moment. The alpha version, codename Pathfinder, suffered a serious malfunction when its logic circuits burnt out. Strangely enough the programmers just decided to leave logic out of the loop when theking was coded.
                                                                                                                                                    It has been reported that the final release, codename villageidiot, is ready for release soon.
                                                                                                                                                    it's funny because it's true

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                                                                                                                                                      • 12clicks
                                                                                                                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                        • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                                                        • 19814
                                                                                                                                                        #288
                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by SexySarah


                                                                                                                                                        try harder little fish
                                                                                                                                                        Damn, that hurt. I've just been called a little fish by a nobody.
                                                                                                                                                        I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                                                                                                          • 12clicks
                                                                                                                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                            • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                                                            • 19814
                                                                                                                                                            #289
                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by [Labret]
                                                                                                                                                            For the several billion we have given them over the years, they better be a "staunch" supporter. They should be over here personally digging the lint out of my ass crack. [/B]
                                                                                                                                                            so then your excuse for Egypt would be?





                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by [Labret]


                                                                                                                                                            Neither do Norway or Spain. Your point? [/B]
                                                                                                                                                            appearently that you can't tell the difference between friend and foe.
                                                                                                                                                            I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                                                                                                              • SexySarah
                                                                                                                                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                                • May 2003
                                                                                                                                                                • 1076
                                                                                                                                                                #290
                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by 12clicks


                                                                                                                                                                Damn, that hurt. I've just been called a little fish by a nobody.
                                                                                                                                                                so how exactly are you not a little fish?

                                                                                                                                                                what's your net worth?


                                                                                                                                                                <img src="http://www.oracle.com/oracleworld/sanfrancisco/images/dell.jpg">

                                                                                                                                                                <img src="http://www.iqmedia.co.uk/images/bill%20gates.jpg">

                                                                                                                                                                <img src="http://www.r-3.com/email/images/bezos.gif">


                                                                                                                                                                don't feel too bad

                                                                                                                                                                you try hard

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                                                                                                                                                                  • directfiesta
                                                                                                                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                    • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                                                                    • 30176
                                                                                                                                                                    #291
                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by 12clicks

                                                                                                                                                                    sticky for simpletons perhaps. Terrorism is terrorism. The response to terrorism is self defense. Don't like the self defense? don't commit the terror.
                                                                                                                                                                    100% right! That is exactly how the Palestinians feels....
                                                                                                                                                                    I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                                                                                                                                                                    But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                                                                                                                                                                      • Mike AI
                                                                                                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                        • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                                                                        • 3624
                                                                                                                                                                        #292
                                                                                                                                                                        Still waiting for your list of countries you've visited , how long you've spent in each of them and where you stayed (5 star hotel, youth hostel, family or friends etc)
                                                                                                                                                                        DO you include all the countries in Epcot in Orlando?

                                                                                                                                                                        Just in Europe I have been to the UK, France, Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Finland, Germany, Russia, also made a quick trip to Lithuania....

                                                                                                                                                                        This is all in Europe, of course being a dirty American, I have spent more time in Latin America....

                                                                                                                                                                        What about you mate?? Where have you been?

                                                                                                                                                                        Sorry for no photos... I am at my new pad in Tampa, I do not have anything here but my laptop, and a sofa... I had to serve dinner to Serge on a folding table last night.


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                                                                                                                                                                          • 12clicks
                                                                                                                                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                            • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                                                                            • 19814
                                                                                                                                                                            #293
                                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by SexySarah


                                                                                                                                                                            so how exactly are you not a little fish?

                                                                                                                                                                            what's your net worth?




                                                                                                                                                                            <img src="http://www.iqmedia.co.uk/images/bill%20gates.jpg">




                                                                                                                                                                            don't feel too bad

                                                                                                                                                                            you try hard
                                                                                                                                                                            ahahahaha, if thats how high you have to reach to prove I'm a little fish, I guess I am!

                                                                                                                                                                            Now what is your net worth sarah?
                                                                                                                                                                            <img src="http://www.photooikoumene.org/social/homeless/images/511-08.jpg">

                                                                                                                                                                            <img src="http://www.kmoser.com/photos/fotpe09.jpg">
                                                                                                                                                                            I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                                                                                                                              • 12clicks
                                                                                                                                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                                • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                • 19814
                                                                                                                                                                                #294
                                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by directfiesta


                                                                                                                                                                                100% right! That is exactly how the Palestinians feels....
                                                                                                                                                                                right, because they don't understand that THEY are the terrorists.
                                                                                                                                                                                I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                                                                                                                                  • SexySarah
                                                                                                                                                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                                                    • May 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                    • 1076
                                                                                                                                                                                    #295
                                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by 12clicks

                                                                                                                                                                                    ahahahaha, if thats how high you have to reach to prove I'm a little fish, I guess I am!

                                                                                                                                                                                    Now what is your net worth sarah?
                                                                                                                                                                                    <img src="http://www.photooikoumene.org/social/homeless/images/511-08.jpg">
                                                                                                                                                                                    http://www.kmoser.com/photos/fotpe09.jpg
                                                                                                                                                                                    <img src="http://www.kmoser.com/photos/fotpe09.jpg">
                                                                                                                                                                                    I made my point very clearly

                                                                                                                                                                                    you consider yourself a big fish

                                                                                                                                                                                    you are perhaps but a big fish in a small pond

                                                                                                                                                                                    start looking out of it, and you're pretty insignificant

                                                                                                                                                                                    from bill gates to homeless pics - who's reaching now?

                                                                                                                                                                                    at least I image sourced mine right

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                                                                                                                                                                                      • Mike AI
                                                                                                                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                        • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                        • 3624
                                                                                                                                                                                        #296
                                                                                                                                                                                        can´t we just agree on that america is the most superior country on earth and close this thread ??
                                                                                                                                                                                        I agree.... no more posting in this thread...


                                                                                                                                                                                        One thing about GFY I like, is that it is easy to pick out the morons....

                                                                                                                                                                                        Thanks for the fun guys.... if a Nation is defined by is detractors, I think the US is in great shape.



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                                                                                                                                                                                          • SexySarah
                                                                                                                                                                                            So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                                                            • May 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                            • 1076
                                                                                                                                                                                            #297
                                                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by Mike AI

                                                                                                                                                                                            One thing about GFY I like, is that it is easy to pick out the morons....
                                                                                                                                                                                            you're right there

                                                                                                                                                                                            you were being played like a puppet on a string yesterday

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                                                                                                                                                                                              • 12clicks
                                                                                                                                                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                                                • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                                • 19814
                                                                                                                                                                                                #298
                                                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by SexySarah


                                                                                                                                                                                                I made my point very clearly

                                                                                                                                                                                                you consider yourself a big fish

                                                                                                                                                                                                you are perhaps but a big fish in a small pond
                                                                                                                                                                                                considering I swim in the same pond as you, you have to forgive me for feeling like a big fish.

                                                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by SexySarah
                                                                                                                                                                                                start looking out of it, and you're pretty insignificant
                                                                                                                                                                                                keep telling yourself that if it gets you thru the disapointment you call a life.

                                                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by SexySarah
                                                                                                                                                                                                from bill gates to homeless pics - who's reaching now?
                                                                                                                                                                                                oh, I'll bet if I photoshopped a laptop into the pic I wouldn't be far off the mark.

                                                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by SexySarah
                                                                                                                                                                                                at least I image sourced mine right
                                                                                                                                                                                                take pride in something. its probably all you've got.
                                                                                                                                                                                                I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                  • SexySarah
                                                                                                                                                                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                                                                    • May 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                                    • 1076
                                                                                                                                                                                                    #299
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by 12clicks

                                                                                                                                                                                                    take pride in something. its probably all you've got.
                                                                                                                                                                                                    weak

                                                                                                                                                                                                    strive to do better


                                                                                                                                                                                                    <img src="http://www.hmdsl.de/logos/download/marionette.jpg">

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                                                                                                                                                                                                      • SexySarah
                                                                                                                                                                                                        So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                                                                        • May 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                                        • 1076
                                                                                                                                                                                                        #300
                                                                                                                                                                                                        <img src="http://www.houseofcaron.com/images/Marydolls/marionette.jpg">

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