Oddly Mike.... "Webbyland" has been hailed by your own countrymen as a "true example of democracy in action" - as well as by many other countries... so don't knock things you ain't got a clue about cos it don't do ya too much justice 
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Those are good quotes Mike but I've already seen them. I prefer the Einstein quote anyway.Originally posted by Mike AI
You guys are so clever....
"Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel." - Samuel Johnson
Patriotism is the willingness to kill and be killed for trivial reasons.
-- Bertrand Russell
Look I can find cool quotes on the net too!!!!
Glad there is no rising nationalism in Webbyland... they could conquer us who live in the "bubble"!! I will be able to sleep tonight, knowing there is not threat from Webbyland...
Still waiting for your list of countries you've visited , how long you've spent in each of them and where you stayed (5 star hotel, youth hostel, family or friends etc)
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Did you have a point to make?Originally posted by nap
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Originally posted by theking
The point about 9/11 is not where individual hijackers come from. The point of 9/11 is...attacks on the continental USA will not be tolerated...and the terrorists are from Muslim countries.
There were multiple reasons for the invasion of Iraq and one of those reasons was to send a message to the Muslim countries...get your act together or face the consequences. The USA will dismantle every Muslim country, one by one, if they are perceived to be hostile towards the USA...including Saudi Arabia.
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so what happens when an asian decides to blow up a part of the usa? will we go after all asian countries too, or will we just have "diplomatic talks" with the country where he/she is from?
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If you would have paid attention to my previous posts you would have learned that I am speaking about those Muslim countries or any other country that is overtly hostile to the USA and/or provides safe harbor/financial aid to those that are.When you're running down my country hoss...you're walking on the fighting side of me!
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Watch it Mike AI...if you say anything other than a hostel...Joe Sixpack will flame you. He is a man of the masses.Originally posted by Joe Sixpack
Those are good quotes Mike but I've already seen them. I prefer the Einstein quote anyway.
Still waiting for your list of countries you've visited , how long you've spent in each of them and where you stayed (5 star hotel, youth hostel, family or friends etc)
Thanks.When you're running down my country hoss...you're walking on the fighting side of me!
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Ah... thats the reason of invading Iraq!!!There were multiple reasons for the invasion of Iraq and one of those reasons was to send a message to the Muslim countries...get your act together or face the consequences.
I've been totally ignorant until this time.. I thought it was:
(a) because Hussein was on the verge of launching WMD at the US. At least that's what the "thing" said and who am I to not believe him.
(b) to topple Hussein and give "our freedoms" to the people of Iraq. Mmmm.. still waiting on that yet...
(c) in a general action against some "war on terrorism" cos that nasty Saddam is harboring terrorists blah.
I even took time out to see the massive amount of evidence as to why the US should invade immediately... but alas.. all these locations of sites containg WMD don't seem to be valid no more...
I thought ... forgive me, that it was just a matter of invading, visiting these sites and collecting the "evidence"... but hell, these damned clever Iraqi's have managed to devise a way of removing *ANY* traces of WMD from these locations... clever!! Nobody else had made this much progress in handling WMD material!
A meaningful interview.. even allowed in US media, was with Blix... this was before any invasion. Asked if he considered Iraq would use WMD at invasion time.... *slight laugh* and "No, I doubt we will see any WMD being used by Iraqi forces". I thought about that in my naivity and considered... this guy knows *something* somehow
Mmmm brings up the matter of a country that has and is developing/refining more WMD than any country in the world...
but, hell, that's another story!
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so you want saddam in power?
you want north korea to drop a nuke on south korea or japan and kill a few million people?Ever notice that pretty much everything added to the Constitution after the original was a mistake.Comment
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"There were multiple reasons..."Originally posted by Webby
Ah... thats the reason of invading Iraq!!!
I firmly believe that the primary reason is strategic positioning for military and other strategic purposes. None the less the reasons were/are multiple and there is not a singular reason.When you're running down my country hoss...you're walking on the fighting side of me!
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Is this mean't to be answered?so you want saddam in power?
you want north korea to drop a nuke on south korea or japan and kill a few million people?
Ah.. you concerned about South Korea being bombed?? Na.. just sleep well and we won't see South Korea bombed - that is the kinda crap ya hear only from Washington and we know they can be trusted to deliver the truth in any subject under the sun...XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.Comment
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Kinda sums it up ... there are many reasons that's for sure and the first you quoted typifies the attitude.I firmly believe that the primary reason is strategic positioning for military and other strategic purposes. None the less the reasons were/are multiple and there is not a singular reason.XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.Comment
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You keep harping about our current President. This President just as all Presidents of the past cannot act without the backing of the Congress...the Court and the people. Every President since the 2nd World War has engaged our military.Originally posted by Webby
Kinda sums it up ... there are many reasons that's for sure and the first you quoted typifies the attitude.
You surely understand that no matter what man/woman occupies the office of the Presidency the United States will do anything and everything necessary to defend its position in the world of being the richest most powerful nation the world has ever known for as long as it can sustain the position. Certainly no President will stand by and allow the continental USA to be attacked. I am surprised that the government has been so repressed in its response. Those that are our enemies or potential enemies would be better served by not pissing off the USA any further. Pre-emption is now our policy and will be for future years.When you're running down my country hoss...you're walking on the fighting side of me!
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Of course democracy doesn't work. It turned a perfectly good country into a super power filled with millionaire/wealthy sheep that live in a bubble.
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When will the US be bringing liberation and freedom to the people of Congo.. they certainly could do with some intervention..Comment
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I do not think it will be anytime soon...any nation has to prioritize and dealing with real and perceived/potential threats are at the top of the list.Originally posted by sacX
When will the US be bringing liberation and freedom to the people of Congo.. they certainly could do with some intervention..When you're running down my country hoss...you're walking on the fighting side of me!
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Hello?? Ah yea... your current "President" did get the backing of Congress of course - I assume it was with the same lies he issued to all others.. or was the tale different then?
Who is disputing the role of a President to protect the country?
And who in Iraq... a country many miles away.. declared any war on the US??
And... what "evidence" existed for any pre-emptive strike??
This adventure is not the first since the "thing" occupied the Whitehouse - there are many more issues than the "thing's war on terrorism" when he has lied and decieved. Hell.. his solution to solving employment in the US is limited to saying "jobs" thirty times in a speech. Tis much the same as his "Saddam" speeches - the more ya hear em, the dim in society believe him. This asshole is cloaking himself in a "newly minted wartime guise" to avoid declaring his inability to do fuck all.
Is this a man you would trust?? If you think so, ask any other country on the planet and some truths may emerge?
I apologise about harping about the "thing" - but I'd trust a raving junky with 25 cents more than I'd trust one word out of the "things" lying head.
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ah yeah.. I guess only 3million dead in the last four years.. they only have machetes though.. so not really worth the effort.Originally posted by theking
I do not think it will be anytime soon...any nation has to prioritize and dealing with real and perceived/potential threats are at the top of the list.Comment
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The irony of that was... the US sat back and watched... avoiding too much in the media.. while 800,000 people were massacred there.When will the US be bringing liberation and freedom to the people of Congo.. they certainly could do with some intervention..
A request was made for some 7000 "peace keepers" from this proud and civilized nation, but not one emerged. There was obviously no "US interest". After all.. they were "non people" living in some "shit country" alien to any state in the US.XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.Comment
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Bottom line...they do not represent a threat to the USA. There is an entire world full of countries and of course the UN. Maybe they could act...well then again of course they won't...the US would not be there with their leadership...money...or military forces.Originally posted by sacX
ah yeah.. I guess only 3million dead in the last four years.. they only have machetes though.. so not really worth the effort.When you're running down my country hoss...you're walking on the fighting side of me!
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Sounds more like the govt of the nation needs to pull its finger outta it's ass and address revelvant issues like "serving" the citizens - (oh damn... I said that five word they all forgot - "serve"!) - and deal with the economy, education.. and for fucks sake, some healthcare system - it's the fucking joke of the Western world!I do not think it will be anytime soon...any nation has to prioritize and dealing with real and perceived/potential threats are at the top of the list.
You'd think the US was the first country to have a bout - only one so far - of "terrorism"... where they been for 25 years??XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.Comment
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Isn't the US one of how many countries...is it 192? I have already pointed out in my other post why the other countries will not act.Originally posted by Webby
The irony of that was... the US sat back and watched... avoiding too much in the media.. while 800,000 people were massacred there.
A request was made for some 7000 "peace keepers" from this proud and civilized nation, but not one emerged. There was obviously no "US interest". After all.. they were "non people" living in some "shit country" alien to any state in the US.When you're running down my country hoss...you're walking on the fighting side of me!
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no they don't represent a threat. It's obvious from that logic though that the liberation of Iraqi people had nothing to do with invading Iraq (although a nice spinoff). The invasion was because of 'risk assessment' of Iraq.Originally posted by theking
Bottom line...they do not represent a threat to the USA. There is an entire world full of countries and of course the UN. Maybe they could act...well then again of course they won't...the US would not be there with their leadership...money...or military forces.
Now we should scrutinize whether this assessment was accurate. To me Iraq did not appear like a threat before the invasion and nothing that has happened since has convinced me they were a threat.Comment
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DUH?? Was that an answer?? If that came from any responsible person in Washington (and there are still some!).. they'd be told to go fuck themselves and see some damaging relations from many countries.Bottom line...they do not represent a threat to the USA.
Who give a fuck if they are a "threat to the USA"! Jesus!XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.Comment
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United States wants to destroy terroism. Iraq was a key role in the war on terroism. Countries that support terroism in any shape or form will be changed one way or the other. After Bush is out of the office the war will continue. As long as the majority of americans support this war it will last until the objective is complete. If the goverments of some countries want to harbor terror, finace terror, not support anti-terror legistration then those countries need a new goverment. The american people want terror to be defeated, americans volunteer to fight, and are proud to fight for this purpose.
For people who don't like it, if the only thing they can do is sterotype half a billion people as sheep. Then they already lost the argument. The united states is the worlds super power, the mass majority of people in this country enjoy living here. There is nothing that anybody can do about it.7Comment
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Education (including a college education) is available to all that have an average IQ and the will to attend. Scholarships...State and Federal grants...Job Study Programs...and student loans. No one in the USA is deprived of attending college. There is an abundance of health care...and free health care...it is just that not everyone has private insurance for health care and that is the squawk. The lack of ability for the poor to attend college is a myth...and the lack of health carre for the poor is a myth.Originally posted by Webby
Sounds more like the govt of the nation needs to pull its finger outta it's ass and address revelvant issues like "serving" the citizens - (oh damn... I said that five word they all forgot - "serve"!) - and deal with the economy, education.. and for fucks sake, some healthcare system - it's the fucking joke of the Western world!
You'd think the US was the first country to have a bout - only one so far - of "terrorism"... where they been for 25 years??When you're running down my country hoss...you're walking on the fighting side of me!
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Read my posts in total. The United States is not the only country on the earth. What is the Utopia you live in doing for the people in the Congo. There is a world full of countries...what are they doing for the people in the Congo. What is the UN doing for the people in the Congo. Can't the fucking world do a singular thing alone without the leadership...expertise...finances...and military forces of the USA? The fucking world critisizes the US if it acts and critisizes if it doesn't, while sitting on the side lines with their thumb stuck up their ass.Originally posted by Webby
DUH?? Was that an answer?? If that came from any responsible person in Washington (and there are still some!).. they'd be told to go fuck themselves and see some damaging relations from many countries.
Who give a fuck if they are a "threat to the USA"! Jesus!When you're running down my country hoss...you're walking on the fighting side of me!
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kenny :
United States wants to destroy terroism. Iraq was a key role in the war on terroism. Countries that support terroism in any shape or form will be changed one way or the other.
First, learn how to spell the word that has been thrust in your face for months.
Second... Iraq has fuck all to do with any "role in the war on terrorism" - if you don't agree, provide the evidence your own government failed to do.
Third.. anyone who commits terrorist acts needs a "remedy". The US is in no way qualified to say fuck all about any other nation on any subject. It can't manage its own affairs. It is also ... almost.,, the last country on this planet qualified to handle "terrorism" or the aftermath of actions it may take.
So.. get an education for a start and open your eyes to the next state and what actually goes on in your proud nation. While ya are at it.. try and find out more about the US foreign policy.. (if ya can find it).. cos ya may learn some things about why people feel the way they do.XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.Comment
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Fuck me.. we got Ari Fleischer on the board.. never heard such a load of utter dribble... Tell all that to many US citizens, I'm sure if it was repeated enough, some would believe...Education (including a college education) is available to all that have an average IQ and the will to attend. Scholarships...State and Federal grants...Job Study Programs...and student loans. No one in the USA is deprived of attending college. There is an abundance of health care...and free health care...it is just that not everyone has private insurance for health care and that is the squawk. The lack of ability for the poor to attend college is a myth...and the lack of health carre for the poor is a myth.
Hell.. "my Utopia" has a higher degree of literacy than the US and a health system currently.. two pegs higher than the US (according to WHO) and that ain't no achievement since the US is 34th in line!XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.Comment
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Atleast we get cheap oil out of the iraq deal.
We also have a base now to attack any other countries that need it in the middle east. Plus we can pay for all the military in the gulf now with Iraq's oil.
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ya gotta laugh at the "idiota" of society.. sadly they ain't limited to the US tho :-)
Fill up your SUV and be grateful.. it won't last too long!
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Strategic military positioning...the USA is now in the midst of its potential enemies and can operate in a 360 degree radius. Has every thing to do with the war on "terrorism". Sends a loud and clear message...control your people...stop harboring/financing...teaching hatred of the West...or your countries will be dismantled. Has everthing to do with the war on "terrorism".Originally posted by Webby
Second... Iraq has fuck all to do with any "role in the war on terrorism" - if you don't agree, provide the evidence your own government failed to do.
The US has handled its affairs well enough to become the richest most powerful country the world has ever known in just a little more than 200 years. How long have the countries of the rest of the world been around???Third.. anyone who commits terrorist acts needs a "remedy". The US is in no way qualified to say fuck all about any other nation on any subject. It can't manage its own affairs. It is also ... almost.,, the last country on this planet qualified to handle "terrorism" or the aftermath of actions it may take.When you're running down my country hoss...you're walking on the fighting side of me!
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I apologize for the spelling errors I am trying to do multiple things at ounce.Originally posted by Webby
kenny :
First, learn how to spell the word that has been thrust in your face for months.
Second... Iraq has fuck all to do with any "role in the war on terrorism" - if you don't agree, provide the evidence your own government failed to do.
Third.. anyone who commits terrorist acts needs a "remedy". The US is in no way qualified to say fuck all about any other nation on any subject. It can't manage its own affairs. It is also ... almost.,, the last country on this planet qualified to handle "terrorism" or the aftermath of actions it may take.
So.. get an education for a start and open your eyes to the next state and what actually goes on in your proud nation. While ya are at it.. try and find out more about the US foreign policy.. (if ya can find it).. cos ya may learn some things about why people feel the way they do.
Of course the United States is qualified to combat terrorism. Now your trying to say that the world super power is the least qualified for the job.
As far as former Iraq supporting terror, Saddam issued checks to the families of suicide bombers. The fucker had mass graves filled with the victims of terror.
I am sorry that so many people don't agree with US foreign policy. Prehaps if some of the countries knew how to do more then bitch and complain they could actually do something about it.
Rest assure you will be bitching a long time because this war is far from complete. And guess what nobody is going to do anything about it.7Comment
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yea.. these demons are everywhere! That's why all other countries are at war as well...Strategic military positioning...the USA is now in the midst of its potential enemies and can operate in a 360 degree radius.
I agree with the first bit... but that is fading .. pretty rapidly in relation to the time it took to achieve this "richness".The US has handled its affairs well enough to become the richest most powerful country the world has ever known in just a little more than 200 years. How long have the countries of the rest of the world been around???
Other countries? Most have been "around" far longer - well before anyone ever heard of the US - hell, these are the countries where your ancestors were born. Ya may not know, but they have more experienced and less fickle (today it's Syria.. na.. I mean't Iran... shit na.. Iraq. Na, tis Tuesday so it's hate Saudi day) governments and will be around for a long while yet!XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.Comment
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Originally posted by Webby
ya gotta laugh at the "idiota" of society.. sadly they ain't limited to the US tho :-)
Fill up your SUV and be grateful.. it won't last too long!
It wouldn't last long? That is suppose to be a joke right?
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Yes... and yes. Reasons being are not that there ain't enough bombs, but a total lack of any responsibility. This is proven by the track record already.Of course the United States is qualified to combat terrorism. Now your trying to say that the world super power is the least qualified for the job.
On the other hand, the US has done much good, but ya can't wipe your face on "averages" when you are talking about killing many thousands cos "shit happens".XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.Comment
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Pathfinder, I wish you'd stay dead. You're as predictable as your denials.Originally posted by theking
The US has handled its affairs well enough to become the richest most powerful country the world has ever known in just a little more than 200 years. How long have the countries of the rest of the world been around???
Go on, call me Francis now, I know you're dying to
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It is not dribble it is fact.Originally posted by Webby
Fuck me.. we got Ari Fleischer on the board.. never heard such a load of utter dribble... Tell all that to many US citizens, I'm sure if it was repeated enough, some would believe...
Hell.. "my Utopia" has a higher degree of literacy than the US and a health system currently.. two pegs higher than the US (according to WHO) and that ain't no achievement since the US is 34th in line!
As to education...virtually every community of any size at all has a community college. All of the poor can get scholarships...State/Federal grants (grants do not have to be paid back) to attend these colleges. The grants by far exceed the expense of attending a semester...the kid can live at home if he chooses...and defray expense even further. There are Work Study Programs where you will be paid for up to 20 hours per week. It is not a hardship of any sort to attend a community college. At a community college you can complete the requirements for the first two years for a Bachelors degree. After completion of the community college one can attend a University and scholarships...grants...work study programs and student loans come into play. Virtually anyone can qualify for a student loan. Getting a college education in the USA only requires an average IQ and the will to attend.
As to health care...in the State of Califonia which is where I live...every person...unemployed or employed...with private insurance, or without private insurance, can qualify, based upon income, for a Medical Card and based upon income there may or may not be a Co-pay requirement. This Card will pay about 98% of any and all health care problems...including major surgery or lengthy stays in a hospital. In addition every County in the State of California has a designated County Hospital where the indiginent can receive free or near free care based upon income.
To the best of my knowledge every State in the Union has similar types of programs.When you're running down my country hoss...you're walking on the fighting side of me!
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yea.. it must be a joke if ya say so! Wait and see!
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You impotent son of a jackass...this is my last response to you.Originally posted by mule
Pathfinder, I wish you'd stay dead. You're as predictable as your denials.
Go on, call me Francis now, I know you're dying to
I will not have intercourse with pricks, drugged out kids, or the plumb dumb or mules.
When you're running down my country hoss...you're walking on the fighting side of me!
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Blahh
Its all spin.
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AwOriginally posted by theking
You impotent son of a jackass...this is my last response to you.Converting like a mofoComment
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They don't have time to fight wars...their military forces and finances are going towards helping the people in the Congo.Originally posted by Webby
That's why all other countries are at war as well...When you're running down my country hoss...you're walking on the fighting side of me!
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ah not iraq..
are the weapons of mass destructuction now in iran with all the el-kaida terrorists ?
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theking:
OK.. I hear all this... I've sat down and read some of this stuff with those in the US whose chosen profession is healthcare. I doubt they would agree with you.
This is not about people in these professions.. there are many .. well.. damned excellent people there with firm beliefs in what they are doing.. and they do it well.
The bottom line is... education in the US is.. I dunno if it ever was high (I don't know the history of education in the US) ... but currently it is... well "not too good"! I suspect it was good at some point ... if you look at the numbers of folks who visited the US for further education, this was fairly high. But has kinda plunged in the last few years in preference to education in several other countries. (This ain't connected to 9/11 problems blah)
In healthcare... sorry.. I just can't agree!
The US has one of the worst healthcare systems in the western world. BUT.. again, I know a good few doctors there and it ain't them that are causing the problems.. tis the system.. it sinks to hell and back.
Tis corrupt as hell and tied heavily to politics... but then, ya know all that!
In "my Utopia" I know a couple of US docs... they sure as hell ain't got one ounce of sympathy for the US healthcare system! I had my ears bashed with this long enough with them! These are guys who tried damned hard to treat folks and are just totally pissed off with the system, - so they "escaped" and function well in "Utopia"
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Originally posted by Webby
Yes... and yes. Reasons being are not that there ain't enough bombs, but a total lack of any responsibility. This is proven by the track record already.
On the other hand, the US has done much good, but ya can't wipe your face on "averages" when you are talking about killing many thousands cos "shit happens".
So you recommend that terrorist operate freely. Because nobody else if going to do the job. Lets just let third world countries develope nuclear bombs while we are at it. Lets live in a world where it is possible for any terrorist group to obtain nuclear weapons and commit nuclear terror. You recommend just ignoring problems like that. Prehaps we all should wait until they buy a hydrogen bomb off the black market and kill a few million people before we realize that we have a problem.7Comment
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Na.. they are behind my bubba's place near Crawford, Texas!ah not iraq..
are the weapons of mass destructuction now in iran with all the el-kaida terrorists ?
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Kenny.. Lenny or whatever ya are called..
"So you recommend that terrorist operate freely."
Assumption
"Because nobody else if going to do the job. "
Assumption
"Lets just let third world countries develope nuclear bombs while we are at it."
Assumption
"Lets live in a world where it is possible for any terrorist group to obtain nuclear weapons and commit nuclear terror. "
Stupid assumption
"You recommend just ignoring problems like that."
Assumption
"Prehaps we all should wait until they buy a hydrogen bomb off the black market and kill a few million people before we realize that we have a problem."
Mmm... none of the above.. just the dribble of an idiot.XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.Comment
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Originally posted by Webby
Kenny.. Lenny or whatever ya are called..
"So you recommend that terrorist operate freely."
Assumption
"Because nobody else if going to do the job. "
Assumption
"Lets just let third world countries develope nuclear bombs while we are at it."
Assumption
"Lets live in a world where it is possible for any terrorist group to obtain nuclear weapons and commit nuclear terror. "
Stupid assumption
"You recommend just ignoring problems like that."
Assumption
"Prehaps we all should wait until they buy a hydrogen bomb off the black market and kill a few million people before we realize that we have a problem."
Mmm... none of the above.. just the dribble of an idiot.
None of that is going to happen because the United States will prevent it from being possible. You talk as if we ignore the problem it will go away. You can't picture tradegy until it happens. You seem to think that we should allow it to be possible. I apologize if this isn't the case. But exactly what do you fucking recommend that we do? I think preventing tradegy before it happens is the best approach.
If you actually think that the problem will go away your the fucking idiot. So what is it that you recommend?7Comment
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