Most overrated album, band and artist

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See how that works chief?

This is not so rare....I've got the 7th recorded in 1943. I would love to get my hands on more. It's a shame this and so many of the Karajan recordings are so primitive. As time goes back they get closer to the real intent of the Maestro himself.

Recent bands? Pink Floyd are utter crap. I got the SACD of DSOTM and it is awful. I would say the Bee Gee's are better than Pink Floyd.

any rap album except for tupac

The recordings themselves aren't difficult to get ahold of. I called them obscure because only a few classical music/Beethoven fanatics recognize their significance. Furtwangler was the greatest Beethoven interpreter ever imo, and arguably the best orchestral conductor of the 20th century.

If you've only got the 7th, this will be new. Here is part of his most famous recording, the last mvt. of his live 1942 Beethoven 9th.

http://68.164.17.97/Beethoven9-Furtwangler-1942.mp3

It was supposedly recorded as an afterthought.. by someone in the back of the hall who had enough sense to switch on a mono tape recorder that day.

Despite the atrocious recording quality and audience noise, many people (myself included) consider it to be the definitive 9th.

Actually I am just listening to the 1943 7th right now and it always surprises me how good the recording is. I would say it is even more listenable than some of the atrocious Karajan recordings done on early 1980's digital equipment. Those performances are excellent but the sound is shrill.

I have the SACD of Karajan's 1977 performance and it is a muddle as well. Last weekend I picked up the SACD of the 7th by Carlos Kleiber and it is very enjoyable in terms of the recording.

The definative 9th for me has always been the 1962 Karajan performance, played from the vinyl.

Great to hear there are some music lovers here. It is my only vice.

I'm not a big fan of Karajan to be honest. The only recording of his I consider an absolute must have is that Verdi Requiem which is only avalible on DG DVD.. the one recorded in the late 60's at La Scala with Leontyne Price, Cossotto, Pavarotti in his prime, and Ghiaurov.

I have one Karajan recording of the Mozart Requiem that's almost comical in that he manages to make it sound like Bruckner 9. Beautiful in its own way.. but Mozart would probably not approve. lol.

There is another one like that, but its Bernstein in his later years, and he manages to make the same piece sound like Mahler 9.

Have you ever seen any of "The Art of Conducting" series? There is one called Great Conductors of the Past which I'm sure you'd be interested in. Its got a bunch of rare rehearsal and performance clips of Furtwangler, Karajan, Toscanini, Klemperer, Beecham, Szell, R. Strauss etc. And interviews with guys like Yehudi Menudin who worked with them.. very interesting.

Furtwanglers conductorial technique is visually very amusing.. tall, balding, gaunt guy with very long arms.. looked like a rag doll. If you looked at him at work without the sound track, you'd probably have a good laugh and not believe that such wild, floppy gestures could get any decent sound out of an orchestra. Karajan on the other hand definitely looks the part.. handsome guy, very refined technique, maybe the best ever.. but the sound doesn't do it for me.

Pat Boone.

Can we at least all agree that Bach's Toccata and Fugue is the scariest piece of music ever written?

most overated, id say Santana the past few years.

you're kidding right? 2pac is one of the most over rated rappers ever. i think hes talented, but way too much over rated.