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  • a1ka1ine
    Confirmed User
    • Apr 2002
    • 3387
    #1

    jeff at perfectiongirls is a liar and a cheat

    I originally was emailed by jeff at perfectiongirls saying he loved my site - karendreams.com. He said he has nearly 2000 affiliates and would be able to bring my site to 50 sales a day, from about 10-12 sales a day.

    after some talking we moved the site over and there have been problems from day one. he has failed to live up to all his original promises, and he thought i was going to leave yesterday, so without contacting me decided to put a full page ad up for brittany blu on my site - stealing all my traffic and all my affiliates traffic.

    also.. jeff you owe me $2800 from a shitty months sales, you lied about wiring it to me - unless wires take 2 weeks now, and you have cheated me out of sales and given me a fuckload of stress over the past two months.

    also as for emailing all your affiliates to tell them i am a cheat - heres a little somethign for all your affiliates to read:

    (something like what he said to me, sadly i dont have the log..)

    a1ka1ine: im not happy with how you are dealing with affiliates, and popping up sites without their codes, i want to remove the popups we were making more sales before.
    jeff: fuck affiliates, you are in this to make you money not them.

    before you email all your affiliates telling them im stealing.. i thought id let out whats on my mind.
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    • Dirty F
      Too lazy to set a custom title
      • Jul 2001
      • 59204
      #2
      Thats pretty shitty dude...You better get paid so we can party in Montreal.

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        • LukieD
          Confirmed User
          • Dec 2001
          • 927
          #3
          What a fucking schmuck! I'm pulling my galleries to all Perfection Girls sites now.

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            • Sly_RJ
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              • Feb 2002
              • 17042
              #4
              Ohhh shit. This will be good.
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                • stocktrader23
                  Let's do some business.
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 18781
                  #5
                  What's the deal Jeff? Care to respond? I was just working on putting this on my site but I think I'll hold off now.

                  Let's hear it.


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                    • sweetcuties
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                      • Feb 2002
                      • 5859
                      #6
                      I got the popcorn

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                        • Dirty F
                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                          • Jul 2001
                          • 59204
                          #7
                          Originally posted by Sly_RJ
                          Ohhh shit. This will be good.
                          I normally stay out of the drama threads but in this case, James is a friend of mine and i think he should get his money if that was the deal.

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                            • LukieD
                              Confirmed User
                              • Dec 2001
                              • 927
                              #8
                              Oh and Ive also heard he likes to delete peoples accounts when they disagree with him on message boards. Ah well it converted like shit anyway.

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                                • Sly_RJ
                                  Live Hard - Die Hard
                                  • Feb 2002
                                  • 17042
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by Battuss


                                  I normally stay out of the drama threads but in this case, James is a friend of mine and i think he should get his money if that was the deal.
                                  The money sucks but it isn't what's sticking out right now.

                                  The FPA for Britney Blu has my jaw dropped.
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                                    • FlyingIguana
                                      aspiring banker
                                      • Mar 2002
                                      • 10870
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by LukieD
                                      Oh and Ive also heard he likes to delete peoples accounts when they disagree with him on message boards. Ah well it converted like shit anyway.
                                      ouch. thats not a good way to do business.

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                                        • C_U_Next_Tuesday
                                          WW4L
                                          • Oct 2002
                                          • 10581
                                          #11
                                          i got the popcorn..now im ready for the show

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                                            • a1ka1ine
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Apr 2002
                                              • 3387
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by LukieD
                                              Oh and Ive also heard he likes to delete peoples accounts when they disagree with him on message boards. Ah well it converted like shit anyway.
                                              lukie your talkin about perfectiongirls.. jeff deleted one of my friends accounts too - because jeff didnt like his attitude.

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                                                • nocostporn
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                                                  • Mar 2002
                                                  • 5228
                                                  #13
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                                                    • Dveron
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                                                      • Dec 2002
                                                      • 2794
                                                      #14
                                                      jeff: fuck affiliates, you are in this to make you money not them.
                                                      At least he was honest
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                                                        • rooster
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                                                          • Jan 2003
                                                          • 2384
                                                          #15
                                                          Ever notice that pretty much everything added to the Constitution after the original was a mistake.

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                                                            • FlyingIguana
                                                              aspiring banker
                                                              • Mar 2002
                                                              • 10870
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by Dveron


                                                              At least he was honest
                                                              if affiliates don't make money, they take their traffic elsewhere.

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                                                                • Nysus
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Aug 2001
                                                                  • 7817
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Ah well, I know PerfectionGirls used to post here quite a bit. Pretty fucked up.

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                                                                    • x-vision
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                                                                      • Nov 2002
                                                                      • 1013
                                                                      #18
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                                                                        • Hardcore J
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                                                                          • Mar 2003
                                                                          • 2553
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Popcorn anybody, get your popcorn

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                                                                            • The Heron
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Apr 2001
                                                                              • 4496
                                                                              #20
                                                                              I'd like to point out jeff at perfectiongirls is not a person to do business with.

                                                                              I was a very early affiliate, and from the start his methods weren't very logical. He released paysites with minimal content and the worlds worst graphics in the tours. He refused to have the tour graphics fixed which any halfwit could have done for him. He didn't update the members area's the whole time i had access which was a month or two despite having inside the members area a schedule of updates that should have been occuring. Obviously there weren't many rebills happening because of that.

                                                                              To top it off he finally deactivated my affiliate account in ccbill after I publicly pointed out (at this board actually) about a month ago that he still had many very blurry thumbs & images in his previews that would obviously be better to replace. I also requested that he remove the multitude of popups that he had, or at least offer some sort of tour with popups only to the other sites in his network. He refused and deactivated me, saying it wasn't possible for him to remove the popups!

                                                                              I understand popups are normal, however when I complained he was popping 2-3 pages on entrance and 99% of the ads were to programs affilates wouldn't be credited with. That's fine on a pps program but on a partnership program that has multiple paysites it's normal to only popup other paysites the affiliate would get credit for.

                                                                              In closing I'd like to say GO FUCK YOURSELF PERFECTION SHIT, and since you already deactivated my account there's not a damn thing stopping me from posting the truth everywhere I go! HA

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                                                                                • Nasty D
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Dec 2002
                                                                                  • 2563
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Another dead beat call out on GFY -- Stay Tuned! Does your aggreement with Perfection Girls also make the same promises?


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                                                                                    • X37375787
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      hmm

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                                                                                        • WiredGuy
                                                                                          Pounding Googlebot
                                                                                          • Aug 2002
                                                                                          • 34516
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Well, that's one side to the story, I'll wait for Jeff to reply before making any actions.

                                                                                          WG
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                                                                                            • TheBigGuy
                                                                                              Registered User
                                                                                              • Jun 2002
                                                                                              • 84
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              He pulled a similar stunt on a friend of mine.

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                                                                                                • LukieD
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Dec 2001
                                                                                                  • 927
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by WiredGuy
                                                                                                  Well, that's one side to the story, I'll wait for Jeff to reply before making any actions.

                                                                                                  WG

                                                                                                  Yep I'd also like to see how it is possible to cover up actions such as these.

                                                                                                  Its one thing to have a disagreement with a partner but its too far when you block their access and make your affiliates lose money by putting a full page ad to your other site.

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                                                                                                    • corvette
                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                      • Oct 2001
                                                                                                      • 7880
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      I am not taking any sides here, but I have always liked Jeff.

                                                                                                      Jeff had called me a few minutes ago about a matter unrelated to this thread and I mentioned it to him, he is out of town right now and does not currently have access to a computer. I mentioned what I saw and he seemed anxious to respond as soon as he finds a terminal with unrestrained internet access.
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                                                                                                        • X37375787
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          weird. let's hear his side of the story.

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                                                                                                            • DarkJedi
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                                                                                                              • Feb 2001
                                                                                                              • 28301
                                                                                                              #28

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                                                                                                                • gruffy
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                                                                                                                  • Feb 2003
                                                                                                                  • 776
                                                                                                                  #29

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                                                                                                                    • SpaceAce
                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                      • Jul 2002
                                                                                                                      • 6493
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by WiredGuy
                                                                                                                      Well, that's one side to the story, I'll wait for Jeff to reply before making any actions.

                                                                                                                      WG
                                                                                                                      You're right, we should all hear both sides before coming to any conlusions. Still, I think it is significant that within 30 minutes of this post being made, half a dozen people have already popped up to support what a1ka1ine said.

                                                                                                                      SpaceAce

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                                                                                                                        • FlyingIguana
                                                                                                                          aspiring banker
                                                                                                                          • Mar 2002
                                                                                                                          • 10870
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by SpaceAce


                                                                                                                          You're right, we should all hear both sides before coming to any conlusions. Still, I think it is significant that within 30 minutes of this post being made, half a dozen people have already popped up to support what a1ka1ine said.

                                                                                                                          SpaceAce
                                                                                                                          ya that raises a ton of questions.

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                                                                                                                            • LukieD
                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                              • Dec 2001
                                                                                                                              • 927
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by FlyingIguana


                                                                                                                              ya that raises a ton of questions.
                                                                                                                              Maybe its because quite a lot of people have/do promote his sites? I have galleries on sites and am now sending traffic to his sponsor without getting credit. Wouldn't that piss you off?!

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                                                                                                                                • FlyingIguana
                                                                                                                                  aspiring banker
                                                                                                                                  • Mar 2002
                                                                                                                                  • 10870
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by LukieD


                                                                                                                                  Maybe its because quite a lot of people have/do promote his sites? I have galleries on sites and am now sending traffic to his sponsor without getting credit. Wouldn't that piss you off?!
                                                                                                                                  was it always like that? or did he change it recently?

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                                                                                                                                    • a1ka1ine
                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                      • Apr 2002
                                                                                                                                      • 3387
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      i dont expect anyone to pull anything because of just what ive said, im interested myself to hear how jeff defends himself.

                                                                                                                                      ive calmed down a bit now.. i was choking with rage in my first post in this thread..


                                                                                                                                      im on the phone with ccbill.. then i have to re-upload my members areas and change all the codes, then email all my partners making sure they get credit for their traffic. its going to be a long night...

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                                                                                                                                        • LukieD
                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                          • Dec 2001
                                                                                                                                          • 927
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by FlyingIguana


                                                                                                                                          was it always like that? or did he change it recently?
                                                                                                                                          without contacting me decided to put a full page ad up for brittany blu on my site - stealing all my traffic and all my affiliates traffic.
                                                                                                                                          He added a full page ad yesterday on a paysite I was sending traffic to which only he gets credit for.

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                                                                                                                                            • FlyingIguana
                                                                                                                                              aspiring banker
                                                                                                                                              • Mar 2002
                                                                                                                                              • 10870
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by LukieD


                                                                                                                                              He added a full page ad yesterday on a paysite I was sending traffic to which only he gets credit for.
                                                                                                                                              thats just bad

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                                                                                                                                                • a1ka1ine
                                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                  • Apr 2002
                                                                                                                                                  • 3387
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by FlyingIguana


                                                                                                                                                  thats just bad
                                                                                                                                                  no kidding, i think its ironic that he is going to accuse me of stealing traffic by changing back to my servers when he put up an ad which nobody gets credit for. that was a stupid mistake on his part which is not going to win him popularity with affiliates

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                                                                                                                                                    • Dax
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                                                                                                                                                      • Apr 2002
                                                                                                                                                      • 3161
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Ohhhh anyone has time to hear my experiences with jeff???

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                                                                                                                                                        • LukieD
                                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                          • Dec 2001
                                                                                                                                                          • 927
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Dax
                                                                                                                                                          Ohhhh anyone has time to hear my experiences with jeff???
                                                                                                                                                          Go for it...

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                                                                                                                                                            • a1ka1ine
                                                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                              • Apr 2002
                                                                                                                                                              • 3387
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Dax
                                                                                                                                                              Ohhhh anyone has time to hear my experiences with jeff???
                                                                                                                                                              do it man

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                                                                                                                                                                • I Like To Fuck
                                                                                                                                                                  Registered User
                                                                                                                                                                  • May 2003
                                                                                                                                                                  • 16
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Lets Fuck Jeff !
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                                                                                                                                                                    • a1ka1ine
                                                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                      • Apr 2002
                                                                                                                                                                      • 3387
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by I Like To Fuck
                                                                                                                                                                      Lets Fuck Jeff !
                                                                                                                                                                      a note to all.. this is NOT me.. hah - comic. :-) first time ive smiled all day.

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                                                                                                                                                                        • BigFrog
                                                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                          • Sep 2002
                                                                                                                                                                          • 2057
                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          very interesting.
                                                                                                                                                                          ive got the popcorn in the microwave as we speak.

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                                                                                                                                                                            • X37375787
                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              'You're a liar and a cheat'
                                                                                                                                                                              'I only lied about being a cheat.'


                                                                                                                                                                              ...or sumthing like dat...

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                                                                                                                                                                                • Dax
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                                                                                                                                                                                  • Apr 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                  • 3161
                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  He also fucked me over... And I tried to help him from the begining... From the moment... he first came out.. I told him I could have my people redesign his sites.. for a fraction of what anyone else would do it..so he could get started..

                                                                                                                                                                                  So for those who doubt the post against him.. I can back them up 100% cuz it happened to me..

                                                                                                                                                                                  I want to read as to what does he have to say....

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                                                                                                                                                                                    • Dax
                                                                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                      • Apr 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                      • 3161
                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      Fuck... I never wrote what happened..

                                                                                                                                                                                      Well bascially the same shit.. that happened to.. LukieD.... He put a full page ad to Tawnee on the front page of the paysite of which obviously ONLY he was getting credit for.. And the funny thing was that.. it magically happened the day I got listed on the hun and sent him ( what ccbill said ) over 11.000 hits!

                                                                                                                                                                                      I was fucking livid.. and he offered to give me all the sign ups.. he made to Tawnee... I was so mad I started cracking up... He stopped offering that once I asked for a user/pass to the lightspeed stats.. and to pay $40 a sign up ( since i dunno who would stay for a month or 6 )

                                                                                                                                                                                      I'm not one to put personal icq messages but if they are needed to prove the fact that he fucked me over...

                                                                                                                                                                                      Oh well.. there is always someone who will try to get rich by fucking people over..

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                                                                                                                                                                                        • The Heron
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                                                                                                                                                                                          • Apr 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                          • 4496
                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          So it wasn't just me that complained about the lack of design skills?! Yet he insists on being a cock about it, you'd think with all these people pointing out problems he'd adjust, but no he'll just keep doing the same dumb shit until he runs out of affiliates to screw then I'm guessing he'll go away.

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                                                                                                                                                                                            • Dax
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                                                                                                                                                                                              • Apr 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                              • 3161
                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              Shit .. even after he fucked me over.. and when he came up with brittany's site.. I posted some shit.. that kind of made him look dumb.. and he privately asked me to remove it and I did..

                                                                                                                                                                                              Sometimes Im too fucking nice..

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                                                                                                                                                                                                • Dax
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                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Apr 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • 3161
                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by The Heron
                                                                                                                                                                                                  So it wasn't just me that complained about the lack of design skills?! Yet he insists on being a cock about it, you'd think with all these people pointing out problems he'd adjust, but no he'll just keep doing the same dumb shit until he runs out of affiliates to screw then I'm guessing he'll go away.


                                                                                                                                                                                                  Maaaan.. Ray Charles.. could design a better site than those at the begining....

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • easyjesus
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                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Mar 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • 291
                                                                                                                                                                                                      #50
                                                                                                                                                                                                      I am somewhat of a "n00bie" here, but I also was intrgiued by Brittany Blu's site so I wanted to promote it.. I didnt give him a chance to "fuck me over", but I didnt promote it long for the fact that the pics were blurry, and it looked like a 3yr old kid designed it...

                                                                                                                                                                                                      he said, they wanted the design done that way.... how sad
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