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The $1,000,000.00 CASH Challenge! Chocker and AdultSiteTraffic -vs- UCumSeeMe.com
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Adult site traffic was already selling me his traffic, he is listed on the test page. He icqed me up said he had a new source and wanted to sell it to me and have a seperate listing for it, which we set up. Not knowing and quite honestly not caring who the source was, we jsut listed it under his site on the test page temprorarily until he made up a page on his site to advertise this particular traffic. If it would have been decent traffic I guess his plans were to resell ucumseeme traffic. Adult site traffic simply bought the traffic from ucumseeme and resold it to me, which I have no problem with. After the traffic started rolling in, it was quite obvious it was shit. At this time I asked him where was the traffic coming from. He said ucumseeme, so I changed the name of the source to ucumseeme. It's as simple as that. There is no conspiracy, no plan to slander anyone. Penn you started this shit by calling me a liar. I have not lied about anything. You are just pissed that your traffic is shit and so many others realize this too. I never wanted to get into a pissing match with anyone. I just wanted to buy traffic and post the results which I did. The fact that your traffic clicks 10 times less than the average brokers traffic is not my fault. As far as the challenge goes, get real, you just keep drawing more bad publicity to your self everytime you post here. Self destructive aren't you?ICQ me lets make a deal 116894466

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all these traffic sites aint great shit,
its all filtered wrong,
u really think people with the best traffic really sell it for cent a click? or even post here for that matter haha.
and it should b done by sign ups not click thrus,
test out a 4free program and regular sign up progs and see who the winner is now.
id rather have 1 click through and convert on it then 100 click throughs and convert none.Comment
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Originally posted by Choker
Adult site traffic was already selling me his traffic, he is listed on the test page. He icqed me up said he had a new source and wanted to sell it to me and have a seperate listing for it, which we set up. Not knowing and quite honestly not caring who the source was, we jsut listed it under his site on the test page temprorarily until he made up a page on his site to advertise this particular traffic. If it would have been decent traffic I guess his plans were to resell ucumseeme traffic. Adult site traffic simply bought the traffic from ucumseeme and resold it to me, which I have no problem with. After the traffic started rolling in, it was quite obvious it was shit. At this time I asked him where was the traffic coming from. He said ucumseeme, so I changed the name of the source to ucumseeme. It's as simple as that. There is no conspiracy, no plan to slander anyone. Penn you started this shit by calling me a liar. I have not lied about anything. You are just pissed that your traffic is shit and so many others realize this too. I never wanted to get into a pissing match with anyone. I just wanted to buy traffic and post the results which I did. The fact that your traffic clicks 10 times less than the average brokers traffic is not my fault. As far as the challenge goes, get real, you just keep drawing more bad publicity to your self everytime you post here. Self destructive aren't you?
Chocker, the bottom line is we need a 3rd party company for results because there's a definate conflict of interest with your reporting.
We did business with Adult-Site-Traffic.com, not you. You did business with Adult-Site-Traffic.com, not us. They entered your program on behalf of themselves and you listed them on your website as the source of traffic. We sent a few thousand clicks out of the 100k clicks they ordered to a site they gave us (your site). We sent a few thousand visitors to your site intially on behalf of Adult-Site-Traffic.com and your site reported more visitors than we sent. The additional traffic was not from us. Adult-Site-Traffic.com buys traffic and resells it so it could have been from anybody. He's a small-time broker, a simple traffic reseller, nothing more.
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5/15/2003 9:27 PM Perl Mountain
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You are still sending traffic, somehow. They have detected hitbot in it, and have been locking out IP's, but cannot isolate your traffic because all of the referrers are hidden. At least they took my name off of it. I don't know how it's getting there, but you need to stop it ASAP. Choker is chewing my ass.
5/15/2003 9:34 PM Penn E. Less
Hi, no traffic is going to that site, it's going to http://adult-site-traffic.com/traffic/out.cgi?c=7 He has a problem elsewhere.
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That's my convo with Perl Mountain. Although you couldn't idenfity the source of the traffic, you say the shit traffic is from us. Perl Mountain acknowledged that his name was on your website and you took it off and replaced it with our name. If you received hidden referrers and could not single them out, doesn't that imply that there's more than one source sending them to you? If that were not the case, you could have easily singled them out to a specific person sending you traffic, right? Seems like you have a larger problem with your system.
Rectify this situation and put his name back on your website, tell GFY members the truth, that you really don't know where the "shit" traffic came from and don't use the excuse that you "tricked us" into sending you traffic for a fair and accurate test. If that were the case, why didn't you do that with everyone else? Since you didn't, that makes your test results flawed and unreliable, doesn't it? You never approached us for testing, we would have sent you FREE traffic and wouldn't have charged you for it.
Can anyone else tell me why he's singling us out and saying that we sent shit traffic? Perl Mountain said they were getting hitbots but they couldn't figure out where it was coming from. Chocker, why are you making statements without anything to back it up with?
Rectify this or accept the challenge and let's have some fun in August. It's only money. The winner can donate their money to charity if you'd like, it's completely up to you.
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hhmmm....i sure hope everyone remembered their wheaties this morning...winkypooh's
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hmmm... I'll tell you what: forget about that million dollars none of you have and send (say) 50k traffic to a page on my server with public stats
and then we all compare and avoid this tuff guy pissing matchs. Show who's the man here! I'm serious on this, let's see if you've what it's needed
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of course, if you want to send me the million bucks, I can praise your name in all boards and declare you as winner. as a matter of fact, I'm running an all-low honesty mark on myself, so I'd praise your name even for 500k bucks. Offer ends today midnight so hurry up
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lots of flakey crust, not much filling....Comment
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Lemme see if i'm following this correctly.. you buy traffic from blue mountain which is all hitbot and resell it and are now pissed off cause another reselller bought your resold hitbot traffic and sent it to choker who was testing traffic brokers and resellers, however noone warned you that it was all being tested so you didnt have time to shut down the hitbots and hunt down a broker who has real traffic that you could resell in your name to sell to the other guy to resell as his own.Originally posted by Penn E. Less
Chocker, blah blah blah
so adult traffic whatever realizes this is all fucking hitbot traffic, lets everyone in that it's not even his traffic it's yours, so now you are all pissed off and got to save face and blame the hitbots on blue mountain and how it's bullshit cause you didnt know that someone was testing your resold hitbot traffic.
But to top it off you want to put up 1 million (which im sure noone around here even believes you have.. shit ive never even heard of "the leader in adult traffic" until that thread yesterday) anyways put up 1 million that you know fuckin a well noone can cover on some bullshit bet where you know your traffic is being tested giving you enuff time to find a source with actual fucking surfers..
LOL, this thread rules
if someones sitting around testing traffic the last fucking thing the broker should know is thats what's happening.
But it's not fair unless you know your traffic is being tested.
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This is the idea that he is just NOT getting. If he KNEW it was being tested of course he would send other traffic. (if in fact is was a hitbot)Originally posted by Evil1
if someones sitting around testing traffic the last fucking thing the broker should know is thats what's happening.
Ucumseeme, can't you provide a screenshot from your logs that shows how many hits you sent to choker's url?
If so, why hasn't it been posted yet?
You say you sent X amount of hits of the X amount of hits that his site shows so prove that at least???
I've yet to see an actual amount of hits you are claiming to have sent his URL.
I think this was the best way to check out a traffic seller. Whether or not the other traffic broker was going to claim it as his if it was good traffic, it still exposed something was not right with UCumSeeMe, no?
All of the traffic guys should be tested this way and I would also like to see Choker's stats on the page with the rest of them!
Maybe now that the traffic guys know someone can "sneakily" order traffic and test it for Choker, webmasters won't be getting the shaft so often.
Whether they are using hitbots or not, 5% productivity on a site that does 100+% productivity from all other traffic sources is just ridiculous. This is a general statement here.
I don't care where the traffic is coming from, does anyone believe that 5% productivity or less coming from ppl who are actually looking for porn could really happen OFTEN??Comment
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The thing that pisses me off about all of this is that I've purchased traffic from UCumSeeMe before with no great results and at rather high price IMO. Now I find out that they have a million bucks to throw away to charity and then say it's only money. Penn, if you're making enough money to be able to just piss away a million dollars then you're obviously charging too much for your traffic.
You're just like Sadam Hussein. Living like a fucking king while his countrymen live like animals instead of living well, helping his countrymen have a decent existence and feeling good about it all when he goes to bed at night.
Just like Sadam, who is either dead or exiled, eventually you will be gone too. Instead of providing your customers with good quality traffic at a fair price, making a good living and feeling good that you are making a polsitive difference in this business and staying around for years to come.Porn Site Pros - Custom Website Design, Turnkey Webcam and Pay Sites, SEO, and ConsultingComment
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Shit..have I missed something?
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Its all a lame publicity stunt..... I will still stick wtih choker no matter what the results are.Originally posted by The Hammer
The thing that pisses me off about all of this is that I've purchased traffic from UCumSeeMe before with no great results and at rather high price IMO. Now I find out that they have a million bucks to throw away to charity and then say it's only money. Penn, if you're making enough money to be able to just piss away a million dollars then you're obviously charging too much for your traffic.
You're just like Sadam Hussein. Living like a fucking king while his countrymen live like animals instead of living well, helping his countrymen have a decent existence and feeling good about it all when he goes to bed at night.
Just like Sadam, who is either dead or exiled, eventually you will be gone too. Instead of providing your customers with good quality traffic at a fair price, making a good living and feeling good that you are making a polsitive difference in this business and staying around for years to come.Comment
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If they have $1,000,000 to essentially throw away, apparently anything they're claiming Choker and company have done to ruin their credibility hasn't hurt business much.
Very childish.Comment
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doesnt matter if someone has a mil to put up or doesnt, that bet wont happen cause it's a useless wager if he knows where/when his traffic is being tested cause he'd just pump SE traffic in, and everone knows that, thus that bet will never happenOriginally posted by FlyingIguana
what if they don't have a million big ones?
Thats why cumseemee said 1 mil and is wandering around the thread acting like he wipes his ass with 100's.. had he said 10k I bet he'd be one nervous motherfucker right about now knowing someone might take that bet and make him put his money where his mouth is.
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Originally posted by FlyingIguana
what if they don't have a million big ones?
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