50/50 partnerships are bullshit! I say the paysites get only 10%!!!

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  • nocostporn
    Confirmed User
    • Mar 2002
    • 5228

    #101
    100 ho
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    • Terenzo
      Confirmed User
      • Jan 2002
      • 971

      #102
      TheFLY - there is one thing i have learned over the past years: don't be too innovative. i love to build scripts i've done great shit: toplist matrices where you only had to join once and you were syncronized when ever a new member joined the matrix, i've built linklist synchronizers which did kinda the same shit, i've built what ever dynamic shit... it took me a shit of a time to code all of it. The revenue: i assume i was my own underpaid programmer. but at the same time i purchased avsBlitz, this was months ago when one was able to make a living off the avs linklists. i spent 1 hour daily on blitz and made a lot of money, enough to get a company with employees setup. the time i spent coding never paid off in terms of revenue, i learned a lot, though.

      don't waste your time changing some industry standart, do what the mass is doing, just be faster and better and you'll do very fine (i assume you already do fine ) everything else will drive you nut.
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      • playa
        Confirmed User
        • Feb 2001
        • 6432

        #103
        hey terenzo, i use avsblitz also

        lets talk

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        • applejacks
          Confirmed User
          • Mar 2002
          • 750

          #104
          The Fly seem a bit pretty mad.
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          • pimplink
            Confirmed User
            • Jun 2001
            • 9535

            #105
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            • TheFLY
              So Fucking Banned
              • Jan 2001
              • 11856

              #106
              Originally posted by Terenzo
              toplist matrices where you only had to join once and you were syncronized when ever a new member joined the matrix, i've built linklist synchronizers which did kinda the same shit
              How did you solve the problem of all the lists looking alike?

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              • Mike H
                Registered User
                • Oct 2002
                • 25

                #107
                Originally posted by Desirae
                Hi all, I think the good thing about a referal program from ccbill or ibill is that you know your not getting screwed. I did a thing one time where a guy was going to pay me 35.00 per join. I knew that exit pop got anywhere from 500-800 hits per day on average. With him for some reason I was only getting him 5-16 hits per day on average. Kind of weird huh?

                I personally pay out 60%, but I convert crazy high. If you can find a site that converts crazy high and is willing to pay out 90% and you know all is fair, go for it! that would be pretty amazing

                Desirae Spencer =)~~~~~~~~
                try http://softteen.net/webmasters

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                • stocktrader23
                  Let's do some business.
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 18781

                  #108


                  TheFly is a genious.


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                  "I try to make a habit of bouncing my eyes up to the face of a beautiful woman, and often repeat “not mine” in my head or even verbally. She’s not mine. God has her set aside. She’s not mine. She’s His little girl, and she needs me to fight for her by keeping my eyes where they should be."

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                  • TheEnforcer
                    Confirmed User
                    • May 2001
                    • 2855

                    #109
                    Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
                    TheFly is very right,,i understand the 50/50 in cases like bangbus where the production cost is high,it's exclusive content etc,but what about the rest paysites? Some of them grab 50 sets of pics and 5 hours of movies and a plugin and they consider it a paysite....
                    You should NEVER sign up for a revshare program and nott know what the inside of their members area looks like.
                    Hit me up below for all your advertising needs!

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                    • hojo
                      Confirmed User
                      • Dec 2002
                      • 130

                      #110
                      Shut the fuck up you cock sores. If you don't like revshare go get shaved by some bullshit per-signup program. You'll be lucky to get 30% off per-signup anyways, they all shave, i've made shaving programs for them.


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                      • quiet
                        we'll miss you our friend. RIP
                        • Sep 2001
                        • 25115

                        #111
                        Originally posted by hojo
                        i've made shaving programs for them.
                        tell us more
                        we'll miss you our friend. RIP

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                        • cash69
                          So Fucking Banned
                          • Oct 2002
                          • 1052

                          #112
                          i offer 80 / 20.. is that close enough.. credit for all exits .. login straight to the processor

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                          • rooster
                            Confirmed User
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 2384

                            #113
                            best type of program pays like 25 per trial, converts decent, and has no aggresive exit scheme.
                            Ever notice that pretty much everything added to the Constitution after the original was a mistake.

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                            • hojo
                              Confirmed User
                              • Dec 2002
                              • 130

                              #114
                              Originally posted by quiet
                              tell us more
                              I know who you are and you know all about them.

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                              • quiet
                                we'll miss you our friend. RIP
                                • Sep 2001
                                • 25115

                                #115
                                Originally posted by hojo


                                I know who you are and you know all about them.
                                ?
                                we'll miss you our friend. RIP

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                                • DirtyDanza
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Aug 2002
                                  • 8375

                                  #116
                                  I think your all trippen..... sell my site for 10% uh no..... thats obsurd.... yeah there companys out there saying oh I want my money... oh so and so did not pay me.... well I tell you this my friend... 50/50 with ccbill is the best way to go... checks every week..... you can either take your chances with other types or programs... or stick with one that has been around from the start.... I can see maybe 60/40 if your sending 100-150 sales a day but 90/10 thats retarted... why don't we just all make free sites.... and yeah.... once we get the traffic I belive it is 50/50 half my traffic half your's.... so as far as popups... you get credit for them as well.... 50/50 thats the oldest and best method... and will be around the longest.... mark my words....

                                  oh and....

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                                  • Brujah
                                    Beer Money Baron
                                    • Jan 2001
                                    • 22157

                                    #117
                                    Originally posted by Tukhman
                                    Hey guys,

                                    AdultCentro actually works around many problems that are being discussed here and in the past. Aside from making a set of tools that automates webmasters' life, we have also brought into AC set of tools that make revenue through innovative efforts.

                                    One of the features is our Global Affiliate Program (which is actually the biggest cause for the delay of launch) that will eventually allow selection of a processor, uploading of tours to our servers, and having an affiliate program without doing anything.

                                    On the business end, you are then allowed to visit the exchange where buyers list what they are looking to buy (niche of traffic, number of sign ups, type of method) and sellers (list what type of traffic, how much per sign up, etc). There is even a bidding aspect to this, so sellers can get the best price.

                                    Lastly, with the 'banking' aspect we are looking to establish a serious escrow type of service that will pay from within AdultCentro directly upon fulfillment of the 'agreement'.

                                    And that's just one use of the feature within AdultCentro, check out the site for more http://www.adultcentro.com/

                                    Coming this month
                                    Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh..... so THAT'S what it's all about. I was confused.

                                    I like it.

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                                    • KCat
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Sep 2002
                                      • 2204

                                      #118
                                      Desirae - Question for you...since personal amateur sites fall into a different category...

                                      Wouldn't you rather have 1000 members that you found yourself from buying traffic etc. than 10,000 members that you only get 10% of?

                                      I would hate having 10,000 guys emailing me, making requests, chatting & so on. I'd take the smaller member base over offering a 90/10 any day of the week. Not to mention the bandwidth costs. Yikes!

                                      ~ 300+ FHGs, 100,000 pics to use plus a rockin' Video of the Day download! ~

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                                      • Snake Doctor
                                        I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                                        • Mar 2001
                                        • 13449

                                        #119
                                        This conversation has gotten a bit off topic, but I'll say this to TheFly, when you open up a paysite that converts good, retains good, AND are willing to pay me 90/10 on revshare, I'll send you traffic.

                                        Until then just shut the fuck up with your evangelical pay per click fervor. Its one thing for you to get up on your soap box and tell everyone else how they should be running their business, its another to be able to do the same thing yourself.

                                        Put your money where your mouth is and do what you're saying everyone else should do and you'll have some credibility.



                                        To all the newbies reading this bullshit and taking it seriously remember the guy who started this thread is the same guy who came on the boards screaming bloody murder at ARS for not setting up his account promptly, when he was the one who misspelled his own url in the signup form and then refused to fill out another one.
                                        And based on this evidence TheFly concluded that ARS doesn't know how to run a successful webmaster program.
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                                        • Backov
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Mar 2001
                                          • 1600

                                          #120
                                          What I find funny is that I've basically called Petes bluff with the spotbrokers banner program, but I don't see him selling for us..

                                          Why is that Pete?
                                          <embed src="http://banners.spotbrokers.com/button.swf" FlashVars="clickURL=http://banners.spotbrokers.com" quality=high pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="120" height="60"></embed>

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                                          • Va2k
                                            I’m still alive barley.
                                            • Oct 2001
                                            • 10060

                                            #121
                                            hehe what i find funny is this topic was posted in oct of 2002

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                                            • stocktrader23
                                              Let's do some business.
                                              • Jan 2003
                                              • 18781

                                              #122
                                              Originally posted by va2k
                                              hehe what i find funny is this topic was posted in oct of 2002


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                                              "I try to make a habit of bouncing my eyes up to the face of a beautiful woman, and often repeat “not mine” in my head or even verbally. She’s not mine. God has her set aside. She’s not mine. She’s His little girl, and she needs me to fight for her by keeping my eyes where they should be."

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                                              • Snake Doctor
                                                I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                                                • Mar 2001
                                                • 13449

                                                #123
                                                Originally posted by va2k
                                                hehe what i find funny is this topic was posted in oct of 2002
                                                God dammit!!!!! I fucking hate it when people bump up this old shit.
                                                I'm not paying attention to dates, read 3 pages of bullshit, and then reply, and now I look almost as stupid as TheFly. (notice I said "almost")
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                                                • maxjohan
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Dec 2002
                                                  • 7219

                                                  #124
                                                  Guys, is it really all about the money?

                                                  I like to send traffic to clean sites..you know what I mean?

                                                  -No pop up hell
                                                  -Not ten memberships in one price..etc.

                                                  I send with my heart..not to make the most money..and in general you get back what you give. Clean sites = repeat visitors = more money

                                                  You see, I know my shit..

                                                  I went from 100 to 313,000 satoshis in 2 days! Lots of daily freerolls...

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                                                  • Backov
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Mar 2001
                                                    • 1600

                                                    #125
                                                    Yep I know when it was posted. I read it the first time it was posted. ;>
                                                    <embed src="http://banners.spotbrokers.com/button.swf" FlashVars="clickURL=http://banners.spotbrokers.com" quality=high pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="120" height="60"></embed>

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                                                    • Paul Markham
                                                      Too old to care
                                                      • Jun 2001
                                                      • 52942

                                                      #126
                                                      Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
                                                      FLY has gone mad....
                                                      No it just looks like he is not making money like he used to.

                                                      If per click was so great and there are more buyers than sellers, why hasn't he just quietly gone ovet to it rather than telling everyone to go over to it with him?

                                                      Or is he hoping that some sponsor will come in with 90%, probably some guy with a mega shaving program. Or that some of the competition will move over to the clicks option?

                                                      This is the strangest post (that was trying to be serious) for a long time.

                                                      Good porn is what the paying surfer wants, so paysites are top of the heap. Take out all the "Traffic" methods and the surfer will still be there searching for his porn.

                                                      Is it easier for the surfer with a CC to find good porn or harder than it was 2 years ago?



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                                                      • stocktrader23
                                                        Let's do some business.
                                                        • Jan 2003
                                                        • 18781

                                                        #127
                                                        I must say I agree with Fly on this one to some extent.


                                                        Hands Free Adult - Join Once, Earn For Life

                                                        "I try to make a habit of bouncing my eyes up to the face of a beautiful woman, and often repeat “not mine” in my head or even verbally. She’s not mine. God has her set aside. She’s not mine. She’s His little girl, and she needs me to fight for her by keeping my eyes where they should be."

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                                                        • quiet
                                                          we'll miss you our friend. RIP
                                                          • Sep 2001
                                                          • 25115

                                                          #128
                                                          10-07-2002 09:29 PM

                                                          TheFLY
                                                          we'll miss you our friend. RIP

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                                                          • Kimmykim
                                                            bitchslapping zebras!!!!!
                                                            • Jun 2001
                                                            • 16015

                                                            #129
                                                            Originally posted by TheFLY
                                                            Ok you say you need 50% to produce content and cover your expenses? Fuck that. I say you only deserve 10% profit. I want 90%. 10% profit is better than no profit. You want that 10% profit -- then buy the traffic -- otherwise piss off and keep looking for suckers to fall for your 50/50 plan.

                                                            10% is enough. You can pay your bandwidth and credit card processing fees, then make money off exits, upsells, spamming, etc. As for content -- that's part of your startup expense -- not my problem.

                                                            All you people still giving your traffic away at 50% -- open your eyes! You are getting dicked over.
                                                            I read this post, and I ain't reading any more.

                                                            Just remember that resellers need sponsor checks way more than sponsors need to write them.

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                                                            • PostWhore
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Jan 2003
                                                              • 4720

                                                              #130
                                                              Paysites can make money by...













































                                                              Ask me how to monetize with adult traffic!

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                                                              • Paul Markham
                                                                Too old to care
                                                                • Jun 2001
                                                                • 52942

                                                                #131
                                                                Originally posted by nocostporn



                                                                LOL! exactly,if you think your traffic is that valuable and can easily make profit at 90%,why not take 100%?? start your own site,send your own traffic...come back in 6 months and I'll buy your shitty,unsuccesful site from you

                                                                I agree,maybe 50/50 isnt enough,but 90/10? come on now...
                                                                If he had the skills to do that don't you think he would of?

                                                                And do you think he would be offering 90% to his affiliates?



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                                                                • Paul Markham
                                                                  Too old to care
                                                                  • Jun 2001
                                                                  • 52942

                                                                  #132
                                                                  Originally posted by pentae
                                                                  give me 60% through ibill revshare any idea. At least I know they can't shave.
                                                                  Why can't they shave?

                                                                  You are assuming they dont shave. Any programer can make sign ups drop out from an affiliates list, but still sign up the member.

                                                                  Then think about the power of a membership site with 100k members has when talking to a CC processor.

                                                                  Interesting.



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                                                                  • Paul Markham
                                                                    Too old to care
                                                                    • Jun 2001
                                                                    • 52942

                                                                    #133
                                                                    Originally posted by quiet
                                                                    10-07-2002 09:29 PM

                                                                    TheFLY
                                                                    Why the fuck didn't I read that.

                                                                    So what is mastermind doing now? Getting 90%, selling per click or still on 50/50?



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                                                                    • justsexxx
                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                      • Aug 2001
                                                                      • 13723

                                                                      #134
                                                                      Always fun to read stupid posts of The Fly

                                                                      Andre
                                                                      Questions?

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                                                                      • Corleone
                                                                        C.R.E.A.M
                                                                        • Apr 2003
                                                                        • 15262

                                                                        #135
                                                                        Originally posted by stocktrader23

                                                                        TheFly is a genious.
                                                                        yes... but i love partnership programs :D

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                                                                        • easyfun
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Apr 2003
                                                                          • 731

                                                                          #136
                                                                          At 50% the webmaster often ends up with about 30%
                                                                          50/50 initial split
                                                                          (often) 10% extra webmaster rererral
                                                                          all process fees - webmaster.
                                                                          Charge back - Webmaster pays back more than he got from the sale + 25$ in some cases
                                                                          Surely, it is better to aggree with a programme owner to set up a system where you get ALL your traffic back - That way your traffic will work twice for you.
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                                                                          • sternyduke
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Jun 2001
                                                                            • 1082

                                                                            #137
                                                                            Originally posted by playa
                                                                            to tell you the truth
                                                                            50/50 really means 40% for the webmaster since some of the fees are absorbed on the affiliatate

                                                                            not to mention the paysite owner also has the valuable email submission,,

                                                                            plus have you guys seen some of the major per sign up sponsers sign up form? most of the time the surfer puts his name and email prior to the credit card page,, another plus
                                                                            yup

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                                                                            • gruffy
                                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                                              • Feb 2003
                                                                              • 776

                                                                              #138
                                                                              Originally posted by Lenny2
                                                                              Until then just shut the fuck up with your evangelical pay per click fervor. Its one thing for you to get up on your soap box and tell everyone else how they should be running their business, its another to be able to do the same thing yourself.

                                                                              Unfortunately he is right about the need for PPC.

                                                                              Pay per signup sponsors can't be trusted and it's highly unlikely you are going to get a "revshare" program that isn't redirecting a portion of traffic, using multiple processors, and hitting your traffic on the first page with sales on stuff they don't pay out on.

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