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Originally posted by Mutt
Produce a few respected webmasters who have bought your traffic and will speak highly of it. That's all ....... very simple, you'll have the reputation back you say Choker has slandered.
what he said ---- and thereby end it right now - manpussyComment
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So you couldn't find a single thread on GFY singing your praises? If you're genuinely the "the Leader in Direct Adult Traffic", surely there'd be at least a few positive comments on GFY?Originally posted by Penn E. Less
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No shitOriginally posted by Groove
So you couldn't find a single thread on GFY singing your praises? If you're genuinely the "the Leader in Direct Adult Traffic", surely there'd be at least a few positive comments on GFY?
Unless of course its GOLDEN and the people that know how good it is want to keep it all hush hush....
Hmmmmmmmm maybe Choker is part of that conspiracy too!
Damn you Choker!! Trying to hog all the good traffic for yourself.Comment
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Can I join? With no cash, and no traffic?
I just want that million.seks.ai for sale - ping meComment
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fuck yeah.
We challenge you to put up $1,000,000.00 CASH MONEY with us and we'll go head to head, traffic for traffic. The winner takes all, no questions asked (We'll have our attorney with us to signoff on the documentation).
We're doing this because Choker and Perl Mountain collaborated on a scheme to destroy the credibility of UCumSeeMe.com Marketing's traffic program and committed total fraud. How can a webmaster trust Choker's website data when he commits fraud and cheats!? We volunteered to send our traffic to Choker but he refused to allow us to do that!
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I don't get that part.Originally posted by Penn E. Less
We volunteered to send our traffic to Choker but he refused to allow us to do that!
I know that Choker wasn't accepting any dontated traffic for the rankings... he stated he purchased it all.
Maybe Choker did it the smart way and stealthfully purchased it?
ie.. So the traffic brokers wouldn't know that they should be "extra nice" to this client?
Where's that list again? Someone link me please....Comment
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Penn E. Less...
How do you think your challenge is going so far?
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Interesting article. So basically you're only endorsment is from an industry newbie?"Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats."
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How easy is it to stealthfully buy shit traffic and say it came from them?Originally posted by goBigtime
Maybe Choker did it the smart way and stealthfully purchased it?
Or better yet, how easy is it for a traffic sellers competition to work with Choker and try and fake the results.
I'd say in this business, and knowing asome of the people around here, anything is possible.
I didn't see any proof 'where' traffic came from in Chokers page, just a list of who sent what and how much etc.
Without total access who knows the truth?
Never trust competitiors.
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Leader in adult traffic, you underestimate the average reader of gfy.Comment
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damn wish i was in the traffic game...
i bet there's a few high schools in India or other places
that would happily make their students click till their fingers
bleed for $100.000
profit $900.000..not bad for a days work
"hint" think about it Choker, there maybe some $$$ here
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Originally posted by NetRodent
Interesting article. So basically you're only endorsment is from an industry newbie?
uh, actually, UcumSeeMe is a sponsor of that guy! In return for a nice plug
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rotflOriginally posted by NetRodent
Interesting article. So basically you're only endorsment is from an industry newbie?This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!
Now read without the word dog.Comment
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For the record, we are not questioning Choker's traffic neither. What we are questioning is his credibility and the credibility of his traffic reporting program that he has posted on his website. We are also questioning the credibility of Adult-Site-Traffic.com as well.Originally posted by SleazyDream
i've scolded choker for his public postings using other people's names - but I wouldn't question his traffic .
Adult-Site-Traffic.com contacted Choker to submit his (Perl Mountain) website as a traffic broker. Choker agreed and placed Adult-Site-Traffic.com on his website. When the scores came in, Adult-Site-Traffic.com was scoring pretty low and he became paranoid because of his exposure on Choker's website. He then contacted Choker and had Choker RENAME Adult-Site-Traffic.com to UCumSeeMe.com Marketing.
That is what this whole challenge is about. It's basically a challenge to Perl Mountain from Adult-Site-Traffic.com but we've included Choker in the challenge for his active role in fraudulent conspiracy. To be blunt, quite a few brokers on Choker's list buy their traffic from other sources. Should they get the credit if they had a "good day" with click ratios and point fingers to their suppliers if they had a bad day?
That's what Adult-Site-Traffic.com did and to make matters worse, Choker supported them and changed their name to ours. We sent a few thousand clicks to Chokers site but it was no where near the number of clicks reported on Choker's site. We don't know the source of the other clicks, nor do we really care.
We tried to rectify this situation by asking Choker to include us on his website and track the traffic we would send him. He publicily said on GFY that he would not do that. Why not?
For that reason and that reason alone, we feel that there is some sort of conspiracy between the two companies and as a result, they've been collectively challenged to put up One Million Dollars in August 2003 for the traffic challenge.
If Choker would have left Adult-Site-Traffic.com as the source of the traffic (as he submitted himself as the source) then these threads would not exist.
Sure, there are a few people that buy traffic and don't get good results, you're going to have that. It happens to us and to the other brokers as well. The site looks really horrible, their site loads really slow and surfers don't want to wait for it to load, etc, etc. It's going to happen.
We are the first traffic providers to offer a Bonus Cash program where you get cash back for each purchase made. We are the first traffic providers to offer a country filtering webservice product, we are the first traffic providers to begin development of UAASPD (http://www.ainews.com/Archives/Story4593.phtml), we are the first traffic provider to strive for 110% customer satisfaction and the list goes on.
With that said, we'll let the public choose at Internext 2003.<br><a href="http://marketing.ucumseeme.com/dat.shtml"><img src="http://marketing.UCumSeeMe.com/images/ucsmm2_120x60.jpg"></a><br> Click the button above!<br>
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Had a piss earlier.Originally posted by PenetratinP
just wanted to be on the first page...
...gonna go get a drink and a snack....let the show begin.
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I hear ya hummin.Originally posted by Fletch XXX
Never trust competitiors.
I'll be testing them all myself soon enough... including the ones at the bottom.
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Here is my experience with UCumSeeMe traffic:
I bought 100,000 hits from them.
I had the traffic sent to a page that was your standard paysite exit console advertising multiple sites in multiple niches.
I made zero sales.I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do,
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That's not how these tests work... If you know that you are sending traffic to a traffic test, then you will of course send your best traffic. Most companies would, there's no way to deny that. It has to be completely unknown to you.Originally posted by Penn E. Less
We tried to rectify this situation by asking Choker to include us on his website and track the traffic we would send him. He publicily said on GFY that he would not do that. Why not?
If that is completely true then maybe Choker shouldn't have replaced the company name. I will have to go reread the thread in question. However, there is no reason for you to be a complete moron about this whole situation regardless...Originally posted by Penn E. Less
If Choker would have left Adult-Site-Traffic.com as the source of the traffic (as he submitted himself as the source) then these threads would not exist.
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I will be joining this traffic challange!
PS: i am buyubg everyones traffic for this one single day!
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Originally posted by Penn E. Less
..... He then contacted Choker and had Choker RENAME Adult-Site-Traffic.com to UCumSeeMe.com Marketing....
Whoa whoa wtf STOP THE PRESSESS.....
You mean Adult-Site-Traffic.com sold traffic to Choker to be ranked on the list, and when they didn't like how it was turning out they told Choker that all of their traffic was purchased through UCumSeeMe.com???? And Choker agreed to change the name???
UCumSeeMe never sold traffic to Choker (or an alias) and they are listed on his list?
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that's alot of trafficOriginally posted by notjoe
I will be joining this traffic challange!
PS: i am buyubg everyones traffic for this one single day!
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=134772
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That's what I got out of it, too, on the first thread about this.Originally posted by goBigtime
Whoa whoa wtf STOP THE PRESSESS.....
You mean Adult-Site-Traffic.com sold traffic to Choker to be ranked on the list, and when they didn't like how it was turning out they told Choker that all the traffic was purchased through UCumSeeMe.com???? And Choker agreed to change the name???
UCumSeeMe never sold traffic to Choker (or an alias) and they are listed on his list?
Umm.....
AST sold a bunch of shit, untested traffic and didn't like how it was looking for him, so he had Choker change the name to someone else.
I still think AST should have to take credit for all that crap traffic, because if the traffic had turned out to be good, he never would have had Choker change the name on the account.
You can't take credit for the good stuff, and point fingers for the bad stuff.<a href="http://www.adultcontent.co.uk">Adult Content UK - Great British Content</a>Comment
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I just re-read the Choker thread and it seems that is indeed what happened. So either ucumseeme.com sent hitbot-like traffic to Choker, or Adultsitetraffic sent the traffic and blamed ucumseeme.com.Originally posted by goBigtime
Whoa whoa wtf STOP THE PRESSESS.....
You mean Adult-Site-Traffic.com sold traffic to Choker to be ranked on the list, and when they didn't like how it was turning out they told Choker that all of their traffic was purchased through UCumSeeMe.com???? And Choker agreed to change the name???
UCumSeeMe never sold traffic to Choker (or an alias) and they are listed on his list?
Umm.....
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Uh.. yeah if all that is true then AST has to take the hit.Originally posted by FATPad
I still think AST should have to take credit for all that crap traffic, because if the traffic had turned out to be good, he never would have had Choker change the name on the account.
You can't take credit for the good stuff, and point fingers for the bad stuff.
Even if 100% of their traffic was in fact purchased from UcumSeeMe. They (AST) trusted that source enough to rebrand that traffic as their own for the test.
And Choker needs to purchase traffic directly from UcumSeeMe (using whatever associate or alias he does that with) before listing him...
But then... Choker isn't here to respond to any of this yet, so we don't know if that's what actually went down.Comment
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Originally posted by vending_machine
I just re-read the Choker thread and it seems that is indeed what happened. So either ucumseeme.com sent hitbot-like traffic to Choker, or Adultsitetraffic sent the traffic and blamed ucumseeme.com.
Lesson learned, don't deal with either adult-site-traffic or ucumseeme ;)
Well I mean either Choker purchased traffic _specifically_ to track UcumSeeMe.com or he didn't.
That's the bottom line.
Because when I read his list (where is it again? url pleeease) that is the impression that I get -- that Choker purchased traffic _directly_ from XYZ traffic broker with the intention of tracking them for the list.Comment
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Please remain seated at all times, please keep your arms and legs inside the ride untill we have come to a full and complete stop lolComment
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And that, my good friend, is what this is all about.Originally posted by goBigtime
Whoa whoa wtf STOP THE PRESSESS.....
You mean Adult-Site-Traffic.com sold traffic to Choker to be ranked on the list, and when they didn't like how it was turning out they told Choker that all of their traffic was purchased through UCumSeeMe.com???? And Choker agreed to change the name???
UCumSeeMe never sold traffic to Choker (or an alias) and they are listed on his list?
Umm.....
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5/15/2003 9:27 PM Perl Mountain
http://www.chickenscripts.com/leaders/index.shtml
You are still sending traffic, somehow. They have detected hitbot in it, and have been locking out IP's, but cannot isolate your traffic because all of the referrers are hidden. At least they took my name off of it. I don't know how it's getting there, but you need to stop it ASAP. Choker is chewing my ass.
5/15/2003 9:34 PM Penn E. Less
Hi, no traffic is going to that site, it's going to http://adult-site-traffic.com/traffic/out.cgi?c=7
He has a problem elsewhere.<br><a href="http://marketing.ucumseeme.com/dat.shtml"><img src="http://marketing.UCumSeeMe.com/images/ucsmm2_120x60.jpg"></a><br> Click the button above!<br>
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OK can someone explain the rules and the criteria for proclaiming the winner to an idiot like me?
At the moment it looks like we have Penn & Choker going head to head for a million dollars. But how is it won?
The highest number of clicks, the highest number of sign ups, the lowest number of clicks related to the highest number of sign ups (quality test) the most money signed up for related to the cost of the clicks?
Or is it just a pissing match?
Penn from a complete outsider, to the traffic game, I can see that starting this thread was not one of your best ideas and marketing strategies.
Or was it?
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damn what a action..
I bought some traffic from Ucumseeme.com ... best traffic & best support of all companies i bought traffic from
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hey am i catching this shit right? 100,000 hits for 5$? count me in for a few hundred dollars
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goBigtime notes: I don't know Penn E. Less from Adam.Originally posted by Penn E. Less
And that, my good friend, is what this is all about.
But hey if his traffic turns out to be good after all...sure... we can be good friends
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choker... shouldnt that be easy 1mio bucks for you??
take the offer!!Comment
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Yum, Yum, Yum,
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It will take you weeks to find $1,000,000 in cash. How about an escrow check?
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just send me a fuckload of your traffic. i'll set up a separate sub-account for it, and we'll see how many sales it generates. i'll post stats daily.we'll miss you our friend. RIPComment
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..and I'm off.Comment
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Originally posted by goBigtime
Whoa whoa wtf STOP THE PRESSESS.....
You mean Adult-Site-Traffic.com sold traffic to Choker to be ranked on the list, and when they didn't like how it was turning out they told Choker that all of their traffic was purchased through UCumSeeMe.com???? And Choker agreed to change the name???
UCumSeeMe never sold traffic to Choker (or an alias) and they are listed on his list?
Umm.....
hahahahahahahahahahaha
talk about fucking someone over
I guess the brokering of complete shit is lucrative - otherwise there would not be all this drama.Comment
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damn rightOriginally posted by Fletch XXX
How easy is it to stealthfully buy shit traffic and say it came from them?
Or better yet, how easy is it for a traffic sellers competition to work with Choker and try and fake the results.
I'd say in this business, and knowing asome of the people around here, anything is possible.
I didn't see any proof 'where' traffic came from in Chokers page, just a list of who sent what and how much etc.
Without total access who knows the truth?
Never trust competitiors.Comment
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http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=134337Originally posted by goBigtime
Because when I read his list (where is it again? url pleeease) that is the impression that I get -- that Choker purchased traffic _directly_ from XYZ traffic broker with the intention of tracking them for the list.Comment
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Funny, to me it looks like something called a "transparent bluff"... Someone who doesn't have a Million dollars makes a challenge to someone else they know doesn't have a million dollars. Surprise, surprise, they challeneged party can't play.Originally posted by applejacks
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Interesting thread.
Still.. Did AST buy the traffic For Choker in the sense that Choker said "Hey AST, I want to test UcumSeeME... go buy 100k hit for me"...
Or did AST try to get listed himself & didn't have enough traffic to send Choker, so he had to purchase the traffic from UcumSeeMe and relabel it as his own?
If it was later, then AST should be the one that gets listed there. It was HIS business decision to use the untested UcumSeeMe traffic for Chokers ranking list.
Because what that sais to be is that if the AST guy doesn't have enough sense to know his sources before sending it to Choker for ranking on that high profile list, then how much discretion is he going to use when sending traffic to the average customer?
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Bah.
Someone call up Choker already & tell him hes needed in thread #1.Comment
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