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  • galleryseek
    Confirmed User
    • Mar 2002
    • 8234

    #51
    Originally posted by markell
    fucking nerds!
    go back to your AOL chat rooms so you can "pimp" on your "bitches". as it states in your sig its a full time job, get snappin, you have a mess of IM's and A/S/L's to answer.

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    • markell
      Confirmed User
      • Nov 2002
      • 1190

      #52
      Originally posted by galleryseek


      go back to your AOL chat rooms so you can "pimp" on your "bitches". as it states in your sig its a full time job, get snappin, you have a mess of IM's and A/S/L's to answer.
      damn...... that hurt
      blah blah fucking blah

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      • Buffed Body
        Confirmed User
        • Oct 2001
        • 114

        #53
        As a whole I thought it sucked, there were a lot of cool fight scenes, but it went on and on and on to the point where it was boring.

        and there was no point to the fighting!

        Why use Kung FU when you can fly? Or just slip under the enemy's skin like he did in the first movie? Did Neo forget how to do that?

        He can stop bullets with his mind, but to hurt someone he has to use his fists?

        Why do the regular people suddenly have the power to kick the Agents asses? They could never do this before.

        A matrix within a matrix. Wow... anyone who thinks this is deep is a moron. Star Trek has done half a dozen episodes dealing with this concept on their hollodeck and they all sucked too.

        But OK.... the whole world isn't "real", but the motive for creating the false reality has always been retarded. The idea that we're all batteries is STUPID, which makes the entire basis of the plot stupid as well.

        Of course, we haven't seen the "real" world yet, for the final explanation we have to wait for the third movie.

        I was happy the new twist explains away the fate bullshit. That fits in quite nicely, but I felt ripped off by the cheesy soap oprea ending. As a whole this movie has less than 1/4 of a plot.
        Ambition is as common as dirt.

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        • FiReC
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          • Jan 2002
          • 2350

          #54
          have any of you seen the animatrix? (renaissance part one and two)

          i guarantee you will not think zion is part of a "matrix" program after you see it.

          it was built by humans to survive the "scorching of the skies" during the war between 01 (the name of the machine nation) and the rest of the world.
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          • hybrid
            So Fucking Banned
            • Jul 2002
            • 3253

            #55
            Umm...a little off topic, here, but was anyone else confused from the first one when the Oracle told Neo that he "was'nt the one"?

            And then, for the rest of the movie, and this second one now, he is considered "the one"?

            Or am I wrong?

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            • Lane
              Will code for food...
              • Apr 2001
              • 8496

              #56
              Originally posted by FiReC
              have any of you seen the animatrix? (renaissance part one and two)

              i guarantee you will not think zion is part of a "matrix" program after you see it.

              it was built by humans to survive the "scorching of the skies" during the war between 01 (the name of the machine nation) and the rest of the world.
              there might be a real zion, but the one they live in might be a simulation of it.. the architect says it has been destroyed and repopulated 6 times, that sounds unrealistic. i think its the simulation of zion that has been recreated the 6th time.

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              • Lane
                Will code for food...
                • Apr 2001
                • 8496

                #57
                Originally posted by hybrid
                Umm...a little off topic, here, but was anyone else confused from the first one when the Oracle told Neo that he "was'nt the one"?

                And then, for the rest of the movie, and this second one now, he is considered "the one"?

                Or am I wrong?
                she says "maybe in another life", but people usually miss that part. she has also told trinity that she would fall in love with a dead man, who would be the one.

                at the end he dies and trinity fall in love with him, and he wakes up. and he becomes the one.

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                • SomeCreep
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                  • Mar 2003
                  • 26118

                  #58
                  Okay, for all this matrix within a matrix stuff, I think we need to have an understanding of linear algebra. Who can explain Nth vector spaces? Thank you. lol

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                  • Fish-X
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 216

                    #59
                    in the end of the third film they will reveal that zion is just another matrix within the matrix. they will leave it open-ended and you will have to buy the game to see the real ending of the saga.

                    sorry for the spoiler but a friend of mine watched the pirated video cd version.

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                    • dimonka
                      Confirmed User
                      • Oct 2002
                      • 477

                      #60
                      I haven't, but I'm looking forward to seeing it... It will start in our cinemas in a week...

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                      • Lane
                        Will code for food...
                        • Apr 2001
                        • 8496

                        #61
                        Originally posted by fishfusion-x
                        in the end of the third film they will reveal that zion is just another matrix within the matrix. they will leave it open-ended and you will have to buy the game to see the real ending of the saga.

                        sorry for the spoiler but a friend of mine watched the pirated video cd version.
                        fuck dude, I already know that just by watching this one. so the 3rd movie won't even tell me anything new? i hope it ain't so

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                        • nap
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                          • Dec 2002
                          • 2765

                          #62
                          well put

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                          • kaylacam
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                            • Sep 2002
                            • 2745

                            #63
                            1). Nice dress Neo
                            2). Did not know it was supposed to be a comedy (talking about the fight scenes, the Superman flying, etc)
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                            • uno
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                              • Dec 2002
                              • 18450

                              #64
                              Originally posted by Lane


                              dunno.. not sure if it has to do with it... maybe he has some sort of psycho character.. he wanted to kill neo with that knife

                              but still, look at all the other obvious evidence, rather than that little detail
                              Isn't it possible in that new subsystem of the matrix, being inserted he somehow gets more privelages, such as pain.

                              I still say this is probably going to be a 3 movie version of 13th floor or existenz.
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                              • RedShoe
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                                • Feb 2001
                                • 14831

                                #65
                                Originally posted by KRosh
                                I am not sure if too many people truly understand what this movie is
                                actually saying, so I will try to explain it for those that don't get what
                                they just saw. The first thing I recommend is that you try to remove your
                                ego, people all have them - so they believe that the movie must be about
                                people. But actually it is about software and mainframe code. The main
                                computer has been caught in a loop cycle for 5 iterations, and it is trying
                                to find a variance that will break this cycle by utilizing a random bit
                                anomaly piece of software (Neo), to allow it to fully complete its cycle.
                                It has tried this before, but has always failed and in its attempts. It is
                                trying to factor in all variables of its program to make absolute sure of
                                complete success before it attempts to actually implement the complete
                                procedure, like an good piece of software (debugging iteself - "it is the
                                why that is important"). Beta software waiting to go gold. The only factor
                                that was not counted on was an anomaly of two programs intersecting and one
                                becoming a self-replicating virus bent on absolute destruction (Smith), and
                                the anomoly (Neo) complementing his program with protectorate software.
                                This is a brilliant movie, that once you wrap your head around, is really
                                just an ultimate version of Tron with no human watchers (Jeff Bridges), of
                                a computer SuperNoc running through a simulation with all possible factors
                                being worked first, before it initializes the program for real. If Neo
                                completes his role and meets his ultimate purpose as software, then our
                                hero allows the computer to see all variances that it will need to contend
                                with, so that it can fully implement the real program on our world. Matrix
                                - main base operating system. Zion - secondary operating system for
                                software that can no longer can function in main sytem - but can be
                                utilized to build new a matrix system. Neo - Random bit anomaly software
                                for breaking loop cycle ñ utilized by the Oracle and Architect software to
                                be a random variable to upgrade itself ñ upgraded with protectorate code
                                from Smith (Anti-Virus). Trinity - complement software to aid in Neo's
                                completion of purpose. Morpheus and crew - collector programs for mainframe
                                to try to enable the end of the loop cycle. Architect - Mainframe operating
                                system. Oracle - old Macro Software that has been part of all 5 iterations
                                of the loop and can see all variances. Oracle's Protector - Mainframe hard
                                code software. Merovingian - old Neo that did not fully implement objective
                                in beta 5.0. Merovingian's wife - old trinity code. Twins, and
                                Merovingian's guards - old base black ice protector code. Head Counselor in
                                Zion - Advisor for Mainframe that advises Neo along his upgrade to not
                                touch the main bios (engineering) systems. Key Maker - come on now, to
                                easy, a simple keygen. Smith - self-replicating virus - now capable of
                                moving to either system infused with anomaly code from Neo. I truly loved
                                this movie and it is so amazingly deep compared to the first if you know
                                what it really happening. I hope this helps anyone who walked out of the
                                theater like 95% of the crowd I saw it with, scratching their heads
                                thinking, "What the fucK, that was stupid I don't get it." I am stating
                                that what I am saying is absolute, but if you watch the movie and listen to
                                what they all truly are saying it seems pretty obvious. Be wary all, your hero is our destruction, enjoy


                                OOOHHHHH!!! NOW I GET IT.... It still sucked.

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                                • uno
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                                  • Dec 2002
                                  • 18450

                                  #66
                                  Originally posted by FiReC
                                  have any of you seen the animatrix? (renaissance part one and two)

                                  i guarantee you will not think zion is part of a "matrix" program after you see it.

                                  it was built by humans to survive the "scorching of the skies" during the war between 01 (the name of the machine nation) and the rest of the world.
                                  Did you notice 01 was in Iraq? lol
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                                  • uno
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                                    • Dec 2002
                                    • 18450

                                    #67
                                    All this was obvious, and made painfully obvious in the movie. It doesn't change the fact that it was long, drawn out, overused, and everything else i've claimed the whole time.
                                    -uno
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