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  • Nydahl
    Confirmed User
    • Sep 2002
    • 6655
    #1

    read this - I am pissed off

    we had a fucking chargeback last week.Total amount 2850 USD - 8 transactions made by one fucker who fraud some CCinfo.NOw
    -I sent out the stuff for 2850 USD
    -I lost that 2850 USD payment (its chargeback of course)
    -I had to pay 8 x 15 USD of a chargeback fees
    -My CCprocessor changed my onetime transaction limit to 500 USD(because I am high risk account now)
    -and few minutes ago CCprocessor informed me that they keep 10000USD (in words tenthousandsUSdollars) as a holdback of my balance
    what a wonderfull world.TGIF
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    • d0se
      Confirmed User
      • Jul 2002
      • 1225
      #2
      bummer.
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        • Nydahl
          Confirmed User
          • Sep 2002
          • 6655
          #3
          Originally posted by d0se
          bummer.
          thanks for support - won't be forgotten
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            • EscortBiz
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              • May 2002
              • 19422
              #4
              sorry to hear that

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                • Nydahl
                  Confirmed User
                  • Sep 2002
                  • 6655
                  #5
                  Originally posted by EscortBiz
                  sorry to hear that
                  I don't care about holdback I am just pissed off to pay for some cheaters fraud
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                    • Danny_C
                      Confirmed User
                      • Feb 2002
                      • 2160
                      #6
                      Damn, that's rough.

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                        • Machete_
                          WINNING!
                          • Oct 2002
                          • 14579
                          #7
                          You know the shipping adress of the asshole, I would "visit" him

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                            • Nydahl
                              Confirmed User
                              • Sep 2002
                              • 6655
                              #8
                              Originally posted by ebus_dk
                              You know the shipping adress of the asshole, I would "visit" him
                              the owner of CC was a honest person - some fucker stole his CCinfo.I would bet he must be one of us - probably working for some adult company and has access to CC info
                              We send out stuff via email or ftp so doesn't matter about delivery adress
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                                • X37375787
                                  #9
                                  dayum... unseenworld had similar problems a few weeks ago...

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                                    • Roald
                                      SecretFriends.com
                                      • May 2001
                                      • 27910
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by ebus_dk
                                      You know the shipping adress of the asshole, I would "visit" him
                                      Indeed swoit his ass


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                                        • nuclei
                                          old school fart
                                          • May 2001
                                          • 1015
                                          #11
                                          NyDahl, when dealing with any large transaction always voice verify and always record the conversation.
                                          Start out with Hello, This is [whatever] from [company] and I am trying to reach [FirstLast Name] to verify the sale of [Products].

                                          Then you have a legal record when you sue their stupid ass.

                                          Or if its a frauder you at least have their real telephone number. If the person on the phone says they have no idea hwo it is or what yer talking about credit the sale immediately and obviously dont send out product.
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                                            • a1ka1ine
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Apr 2002
                                              • 3387
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by nuclei
                                              NyDahl, when dealing with any large transaction always voice verify and always record the conversation.
                                              Start out with Hello, This is [whatever] from [company] and I am trying to reach [FirstLast Name] to verify the sale of [Products].

                                              Then you have a legal record when you sue their stupid ass.

                                              Or if its a frauder you at least have their real telephone number. If the person on the phone says they have no idea hwo it is or what yer talking about credit the sale immediately and obviously dont send out product.
                                              that is such good advice...

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                                                • Machete_
                                                  WINNING!
                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                  • 14579
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by Nydahl

                                                  the owner of CC was a honest person - some fucker stole his CCinfo.I would bet he must be one of us - probably working for some adult company and has access to CC info
                                                  sure - but you said you "shipped" him something - that would not be the cheaters adress you got then

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                                                    • Nydahl
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Sep 2002
                                                      • 6655
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by nuclei
                                                      NyDahl, when dealing with any large transaction always voice verify and always record the conversation.
                                                      Start out with Hello, This is [whatever] from [company] and I am trying to reach [FirstLast Name] to verify the sale of [Products].

                                                      Then you have a legal record when you sue their stupid ass.

                                                      Or if its a frauder you at least have their real telephone number. If the person on the phone says they have no idea hwo it is or what yer talking about credit the sale immediately and obviously dont send out product.
                                                      This wouldn't help me in this case.That fucker had full CC info including adress,phone number full name etc - of course he could change phone number (its not fixed with CC info to verify)
                                                      Also this could save me product but not chargeback fees and fucking 10K holdback
                                                      anyway you are right
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                                                        • Nydahl
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Sep 2002
                                                          • 6655
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by ebus_dk


                                                          sure - but you said you "shipped" him something - that would not be the cheaters adress you got then
                                                          I did but via email and it was registered on some Tanzania or what free email service
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                                                            • Joesho
                                                              want to get in shape
                                                              • Jan 2003
                                                              • 12329
                                                              #16
                                                              Nuke the cheaters house!
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                                                                • Machete_
                                                                  WINNING!
                                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                                  • 14579
                                                                  #17
                                                                  $2850 over email - to a Tanzania E-mail ..

                                                                  then you are asking for trouble man - that is a risky business stradegy :-/

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                                                                    • easyfun
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Apr 2003
                                                                      • 731
                                                                      #18
                                                                      I bought some stuff off you a couple of weeks ago - I can't remember you asking for any web site info of where I would post the pics -
                                                                      Would be a good idea to record this along with all transactions as this gives you the chance to verify names etc.
                                                                      It's a real bummer getting caught like that.
                                                                      I personally found your service very helpful (You had a few problems with your site and when I couldn't download the content you imediately uploaded to one of my servers -
                                                                      Nice job, guys!
                                                                      Hope you get your hands on the crook that stuffed you
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                                                                        • tony299
                                                                          lurker
                                                                          • Aug 2002
                                                                          • 57021
                                                                          #19
                                                                          To me I would ship any order over $200 via fedex or ups and they have to sign for them if they want to pay by cc. If they want them quicker they can send you a wire or a money order or wait for their check to clear before sending the product.

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                                                                            • Nydahl
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Sep 2002
                                                                              • 6655
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by easyfun
                                                                              I bought some stuff off you a couple of weeks ago - I can't remember you asking for any web site info of where I would post the pics -
                                                                              Would be a good idea to record this along with all transactions as this gives you the chance to verify names etc.
                                                                              It's a real bummer getting caught like that.
                                                                              I personally found your service very helpful (You had a few problems with your site and when I couldn't download the content you imediately uploaded to one of my servers -
                                                                              Nice job, guys!
                                                                              Hope you get your hands on the crook that stuffed you
                                                                              this is a license issue but yo are right.I will do some things to protect myself against this
                                                                              thanks for warm words - I am always happy to hear that you haven't a problem with us
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                                                                                • Nydahl
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Sep 2002
                                                                                  • 6655
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by tony404
                                                                                  To me I would ship any order over $200 via fedex or ups and they have to sign for them if they want to pay by cc. If they want them quicker they can send you a wire or a money order or wait for their check to clear before sending the product.
                                                                                  Its not possible - everybody needs stuff in few minutes after they purchase adn also not all of you are willing to pay fedex fees (its about 60 USD from here to US) and I can't pay fedex fees for 200 USD order
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                                                                                    • KRL
                                                                                      Entrepreneur
                                                                                      • Oct 2002
                                                                                      • 31429
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Processors don't want to be left holding the bag. It's understandable considering the nature of porn transactions compared to other transactions they handle. Its a high risk industry and everybody tries to cover their butts anyway they can.

                                                                                      Several years back when online processing was still in its infancy same type situation happened to me. We started processing more than the banks had set as monthly limits on our online merchant account, because of rapid growth, and they call up one day and start saying how we have to stop growing so fast. Imagine that dilema. You're building a new industry and the bank is saying slow down. They wanted us to put up $1 Million in personal collateral for every $1/2 million of transactions we had on balance through any 6 month period where someone could charge back. A fucking 2 to 1 ratio. It was insane.
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                                                                                        • Nydahl
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Sep 2002
                                                                                          • 6655
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by KRL
                                                                                          Processors don't want to be left holding the bag. It's understandable considering the nature of porn transactions compared to other transactions they handle. Its a high risk industry and everybody tries to cover their butts anyway they can.

                                                                                          Several years back when online processing was still in its infancy same type situation happened to me. We started processing more than the banks had set as monthly limits on our online merchant account, because of rapid growth, and they call up one day and start saying how we have to stop growing so fast. Imagine that dilema. You're building a new industry and the bank is saying slow down. They wanted us to put up $1 Million in personal collateral for every $1/2 million of transactions we had on balance through any 6 month period where someone could charge back. A fucking 2 to 1 ratio. It was insane.
                                                                                          hehe - it sounds unbelievable today
                                                                                          bank : slow down man - you are making too much money , you'll become too rich for us
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                                                                                            • tony299
                                                                                              lurker
                                                                                              • Aug 2002
                                                                                              • 57021
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by Nydahl

                                                                                              Its not possible - everybody needs stuff in few minutes after they purchase adn also not all of you are willing to pay fedex fees (its about 60 USD from here to US) and I can't pay fedex fees for 200 USD order
                                                                                              First off its pictures not serum for a snake bite lol. They can wait a couple of days. Or work the shipping into your price, which is better paying 60 to ship it or taking charge backs.

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                                                                                                • LadyMischief
                                                                                                  Orgasms N Such!
                                                                                                  • Sep 2002
                                                                                                  • 18135
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Nydahl

                                                                                                  I don't care about holdback I am just pissed off to pay for some cheaters fraud
                                                                                                  That is the shits.. I hope they find the person and they are punished accordingly. Wishing you better luck in future, Nydahl

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                                                                                                    • Betray
                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                      • Oct 2002
                                                                                                      • 346
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      yea know what i didnt even read it.. but thats intresting

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                                                                                                        • wouncie
                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                          • Apr 2002
                                                                                                          • 1005
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Thats fucked

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                                                                                                            • 12clicks
                                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                              • Jan 2001
                                                                                                              • 19814
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              there's no such thing as fraud on the internet. I've heard you punks say that over and over about cheating webmasters. I'm sure Nydahl didn't supply the proper stuff or something.
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                                                                                                                • pornguy
                                                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                  • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                  • 62910
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Nydahl ,

                                                                                                                  Sorry to hear that I have purchased from you many times and have gotten great photos and service... It really sucks that some asshole does that and then drives your prices up on us all...


                                                                                                                  Have you ever thought of using digimarc on the photos?? That way you can track the photos. It is expensive, but it may help you.


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                                                                                                                    • Tala
                                                                                                                      Fucked if I know
                                                                                                                      • Dec 2002
                                                                                                                      • 23368
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Dude, that fucking sucks.

                                                                                                                      Wish there was something that could be done to help.

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