It's an obvious carbon-copy that has been slightly changed. It's still copying though, which is also known as theft.
Design theft is bad.
Design theft is bad.
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This is hilarious. I guess our new gallery designer is really motivated hahahaha.
Sorry Pat, I didnt know about this one.
I dont have the pass to the server on this box. I will make sure that thing gets removed first thing in the morning.
But you know our motto , dont innovate imitate hahahaha.
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Pat, you were the one I was looking for! I guess you are afraid to give me your phonenumber 'cause I 'might return the favor' huh? haha... kidding of course.
Too bad you couldn't make it on Thuesday of the Amsterdam show BTW. The Invite still goes though...
This starts to get a private post on a public board... weird, but I guess it cleared up the problem that wasn't there yet... still puzzled though Pat... what is this?Comment
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Whats that old saying.. its easier to ask for forgiveness than permission? Yeah, thats it.Originally posted by The Hun
Tipsy... not pissed off, just puzzled why they would do something like this... can't believe they're THAT desperate...
Can't appreaciate it too much though. The least they could have done was ask first (which would have gotten 'no' as an answer, but still...)Comment
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Eh? It is one thing to use elements of someone elses site on your own. It is another thing to copy nearly 100% of such a successful site as the Hun. Like it has been said, it seems like its not meant to be a ripoff since there is no link from Mark's main page but it is still very strange.Originally posted by Za Ha
Well too fuckin bad. The gals are different, the banners are different, the title is different, the colors are different just because the "look" is the same then thats just how the world works. Look at the new Accord Coupe and The Mercedes CLK, from the back if someone were to see them they could not tell them apart and you dont see them in court.
All the new tgps look the same, I could think of at least 20 urls that look the same. Just because you have used that layout for a long time doesnt mean that you are the soul owner of the "IDEA" you cannot copyright that, otherwise reality tv would not exist nor would anything be innovated.
If you cant stand the heat then get out of the kitchen
This is not a lashing just my
since most ppl feel a tendency to suck up as if they have no opinion at all.
Its not a "nice" move from Marks part but no one said the world had to be a fair place.
Fair enough TGP galleries and the like can only vary so much but if this had been meant as a REAL website, to rip off someone with as much history and legal backing as the Hun would just be plain stupid.
There is such a thing as being too cynical. ( No offense Fletch!)
Edit: Sorry, wasn't quick enough to get this in before the revelation. Glad to see its a mixup.Comment
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Hey Pat... I start to wonder... the Spammer I apparently pissed off the other day... it wasn't you, was it? ;-)Comment
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Originally posted by PostWhore
DESIGN?!
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
you mean the way the words arranged there??
Yeh, really get over it Patrick. You made enough $$$ from this industry so don't start crying over what is obviously a joke. You started by HOTLISTING INTO EVERYONE's members sections in the early days. The newbs don't know how you started, but the old timers haven't forgotten.
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I think we just got confirmation from the MB's that it wasn't a joke... Please... you guys always come in here pretending there's some big mistery not every knows about but you do... well, I have news for you: it's not a big mistery and it's been 'explained' and appologized for too many times already on this board for me to repeat it. Besides, I NEVER hotlinked... get your facts straight and stop these jealous attempts please, they're getting kind of childish now...Originally posted by KRL
Yeh, really get over it Patrick. You made enough $$$ from this industry so don't start crying over what is obviously a joke. You started by HOTLISTING INTO EVERYONE's members sections in the early days. The newbs don't know how you started, but the old timers haven't forgotten.
The amount of money I made with this doesn't have a fucking thing to do with this. READ a discussion before you start an attempt to make yourself look good at the expense of someone else. An attempt that miserably failed BTW...Last edited by The Hun; 05-09-2003, 04:18 PM.Comment
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Wow that looks good....heheh
Hey it's all hosted galleries....If you need more let me know.RAM
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LOL
Um, the real page is mark.html, not galleries.html
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mildly amusing. Hun stop crying and start img src'ing him immediately.
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Well after reading this threat I officially warn you Patrick.
I have 11 Month to think of something clever.
April 1st 2004 will be "prank the hun" day
On the spamming , I would have done that differntly .
I would have mailed out your home phone number hahaha
Have a good Weekend
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KRL : Acutally The Hun started doing that initially, I just ripped off the idea from him
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No shit. Cmon, you are a fucking Viking, stop being a bitch and go berserker on him.Originally posted by Equinox
start img src'ing him immediately.
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Originally posted by [Labret]
No shit. Cmon, you are a fucking Viking, stop being a bitch and go berserker on him.
and after you're done with him, fry his guts over a bonfire.Comment
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<a href=http://www.amonamarth.com/sounds/Bastards%20of%20a%20lying%20breed.mp3>Bastards Of A Lying Breed</a>Originally posted by [Labret]
Cmon, you are a fucking Viking
check your email for the latest metal tune.
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Ahh, well if that isn't a parody what is?Originally posted by The Hun
I think we just got confirmation from the MB's that it wasn't a joke... Please... you guys always come in here pretending there's some big mistery not every knows about but you do... well, I have news for you: it's not a big mistery and it's been 'explained' and appologized for too many times already on this board for me to repeat it. Besides, I NEVER hotlinked... get your facts straight and stop these jealous attempts please, they're getting kind of childish now...
The amount of money I made with this doesn't have a fucking thing to do with this. READ a discussion before you start an attempt to make yourself look good at the expense of someone else. An attempt that miserably failed BTW...
Not trying to bust your balls, but you go around busting a lot of other peoples balls and act like a saint.
And don't say you didn't link into members areas for your links when you first started because you had links into my damn sites and other friend's sites from the early days before everyone started to protect their back end members sections effectively. God do I have to dig up the YNOT archives or what? You weren't the popular guy with webmasters that you are now Sir Hun. And again, not looking to bust balls just calling a spade a spade. If you would like to develop your domains, you can lease inexpensive foreign labor
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I agree IMG SRC is the only way! thats how you deal with anyone else that fucks with youOriginally posted by Equinox
Hun stop crying and start img src'ing him immediately.
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Folks keep saying that it's not linked from anywhere so what's the big deal - but for TheHun to have gotten a note from a *surfer* from this, there has to be a link leading to it somewhere.
Hope you guys get it straightened out - although it does give you an idea of what TheHun would look like if it were dressed up for St Patrick's Day
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You know whats great about your misdirected, clueless fucking opinion? The fact that there's easily a million people that don't agree with you and that prove everyday they don't give a flying shit about the page design. Dumb fuck.Originally posted by Giorgio_Xo
I don't mean to insult you (especially since your site is so successful), but your design is shit. I reminds me of my first GeoCities page from 98 (not that my skills have improved any). Why anyone would make a carbon copy of the hun site and make it aqua is beyond me.Comment
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I was thinkin' the same.. what better way to market/ad a new site than to have a big controversy over it being ripped. But perhaps not..Originally posted by boneprone
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The Hun has spoken:
Thou shall not use that sponsor
Thou shall not use that host
Thou shall not use that deodorant
If I had such an ugly page, I would feel honored that someone copied it...
It's incredible how many ass kissers come on this board when The Hun spoketh.......Comment
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adolf?Originally posted by SexySarah
shut up french jew...Comment
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I've had my homepage automatically set to that URL a number of times...Originally posted by Fletch XXX
Ive gotten my bookmarks set to something funnier.
that huns-yellow-pages dot whatever domain.Comment
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Me too man. I've gotten it from clicking links off this board too. SOme posted gallery cheaters and they used a redirect and that auto home page crap.Originally posted by eRock
I've had my homepage automatically set to that URL a number of times...
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So was this ever cleared up?
I saw someone from book-mark.net did respond, but no one ever stated what the page was doing there in the first place.For rent - ICQ 127-027-910
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Originally posted by The Hun
And why do I hear from a confused surfer about it??
as in only 1 surfer? hmm don't you think that's odd?
I wonder who he was and how this only one "mystery" surfer knew where to find this page? hmmComment
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Ancient maxim:
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The hun has made me a shitload of money. I will kiss his ass and continue to kiss his ass as long as he keeps on listing my galleries.Originally posted by dav555add
The Hun has spoken:
Thou shall not use that sponsor
Thou shall not use that host
Thou shall not use that deodorant
If I had such an ugly page, I would feel honored that someone copied it...
It's incredible how many ass kissers come on this board when The Hun spoketh....
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As long as your ass kissing is known.Originally posted by DrinkingHard
The hun has made me a shitload of money. I will kiss his ass and continue to kiss his ass as long as he keeps on listing my galleries.
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Originally posted by Za Ha
Well too fuckin bad. The gals are different, the banners are different, the title is different, the colors are different just because the "look" is the same then thats just how the world works. Look at the new Accord Coupe and The Mercedes CLK, from the back if someone were to see them they could not tell them apart and you dont see them in court.
All the new tgps look the same, I could think of at least 20 urls that look the same. Just because you have used that layout for a long time doesnt mean that you are the soul owner of the "IDEA" you cannot copyright that, otherwise reality tv would not exist nor would anything be innovated.
If you cant stand the heat then get out of the kitchen
This is not a lashing just my since most ppl feel a tendency to suck up as if they have no opinion at all.
Its not a "nice" move from Marks part but no one said the world had to be a fair place.
Why do people always start talking about court when someone expresses displeasure at being copied? I'm personally sick as hell of people being a wee bit over-inspired by my stuff and not wanting to give credit where it is due, but I'm not about to sue everyone (okay, some people, but not everyone) who ever ripped off some part of something I put out. I'd be peeved about this thing if I were The Hun, but I wouldn't waste a lot of time that could be spent on something productive making a legal battle out of it. If I were a car industry person, I might have an opinion on Honda or Mercedes, based on discussions at tradeshows or whatever, even if there was no court case.Comment
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The guy is so lacking in talent and business acumin he does that. I think it will do more harm than good.
Hun, don't worry about feeder fish, they are too small to do any damage.Comment
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Oh my God, I can't believe someone is willing to volutarily make this much of an ass of himself on a public board... If you don't like my fucking rules, don't fucking submit. Or in plain English: if you don't like my rules, don't submit. How hard is that?Originally posted by dav555add
The Hun has spoken:
Thou shall not use that sponsor
Thou shall not use that host
Thou shall not use that deodorant
If I had such an ugly page, I would feel honored that someone copied it...
It's incredible how many ass kissers come on this board when The Hun spoketh....
I don't tell people they shouldn't use certain sponsors, I don't tell people they shouldn't use a certain host, I ONLY tell people that if you DO you that certain host or sponser that I (read: me, the owner of MY site) am not going to link to it.
Really, some people definately make it a hobby to make 'emselves look very good by trying to bring someone down. KRL is an example of that, this guy is trying the same thing. Nice try guys... doesn't work though. Stop these posts please. It doesn't add a single thing to the discussion.Last edited by The Hun; 05-10-2003, 01:29 AM.Comment
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Anyway, I know Pat from the early early days when we worked on the first ever picturepost and stuff like that. He lived in Luxembourg at the time, which was not too far a ride from where I live. Lost his info when he moved to the US though, didn't have too much contact with him after that (hell, he got hooked up with Mark's Bookmark, so obviously we couldn't be friends anymore ;-)
It's cleared up know though, problem gone. Thanks Pat!Comment
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... where is that little fag funkmaster, with his three dots before each sentence and two exclamation marks after !!Comment
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man some of you guys really are dumb. a design is a design, it doesn't matter if it sucks. besides, thehun makes a lot of cash with it. probably more than you.. so fuck off.
also the guys that think they know how patrick was before.. fuck you. nobody is fukin perfect, I'm sure you did something bad too in adult biz, it's just that nobody knows it.
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LOL this is what TheHun used to look like back in 1998
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Thats just minimal html. How can you call it a copy ? Every page in 1995 looked exactly like it.
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If a design is stolen it is theft. No matter what design it is or how bad anyone might find it. The suprising part is that people think it's The Huns design that makes the site successful. The simple solution is that The Hun has been around forever has tons of Bookmark traffic. I think the simple design lets the site load fast and keeps the bandwidth down but it is possible to do a low bandwidth design without stealing.SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.Comment
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Dude, I patented that a week ago. I'll see you in court.Originally posted by Brujah
Thats just minimal html. How can you call it a copy ? Every page in 1995 looked exactly like it.
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But in all seriousness...today someone I did some galleries for was accused of "stealing" the design on those galleries...um, they were basic tables with no graphic headers or anything...just tables, for cryin' out loud...no-brainer, pump-out-fifty-an-hour with an h1 tag for the title...I would really love to face my accuser...anyway.
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It could be a joke, but...
I copied your design some time ago (when I started my first TGP and had 30 hits per day from google). I only copied the gallery layout (descriptions + links, no colours, no banners, just a lots of galleries + descriptions dump). This way I got very nice google ranking in less that 2 months run. After that changed to my current stupid useless layout, but still get some nice google and yahoo traffic.
I think he is doing the same, with the only difference that he copied the entire design instead a part of it.
His main page has lots of links. There is a limit where SE bots start "thinking" the page is just a spam dump, so I think he is just trying to boost his google traffic.
Even that, he could be more creative with the text. Coplete copoies are OK, but surfers go confused and some time after that they become angry because of site mismatch.Comment
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Most simple html generator programs created layouts like that way back..Originally posted by andi_germany
If a design is stolen it is theft. No matter what design it is or how bad anyone might find it. The suprising part is that people think it's The Huns design that makes the site successful. The simple solution is that The Hun has been around forever has tons of Bookmark traffic. I think the simple design lets the site load fast and keeps the bandwidth down but it is possible to do a low bandwidth design without stealing.
TITLE ( usually big Times New Roman font )
HR tag
sub title or intro
HR tag
Another paragraph
List of links
Email
Man this takes me back.. remember Hot Dog ? Hot Dog Pro ? Those were hot.
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Originally posted by MrPanama
LOL this is what TheHun used to look like back in 1998
http://web.archive.org/web/199902181...ww.thehun.com/
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