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  • PornHero
    Confirmed User
    • Feb 2001
    • 1381

    #1

    LOL, my NastyDollars account just got terminated!

    Another reason you should never rely on any one sponsor or any one host, etc.... I was only getting 1 or 2 signups with ND per payperiod. I have contacted ND and I am waiting for a reply just wanted to warn you all that you can get an email like this at anytime from any sponsor so make sure to spread out your traffic to a good assortment of sponsors - thank goodness I do!

    Funny how I was sending NastyDollars the same traffic I send to my recurring sponsors and I am not experiencing a "high instance of credits and or chargebacks" with those sponsors -- in fact my traffic recurs like a bitch...

    see ya NastyDollars


    To: undisclosed recipients

    Subject: Nasty Dollars Here

    Thank you for working with NastyDollars.
    Our goal is to make as much money as possible for all the people we work with. In some cases however, this is not possible due to problems collecting the money from the type of traffic or transactions that a reseller might send. Your account has been terminated due to a high instance of credits and or chargebacks. Your monies for the latest pay period have been sent to you. Please do not try to signup again.

    Please contact us if you think an error has been made on our part.

    Thank you,

    Ernesto
    NastyDollars
    PornHero.com
  • lEricPl
    Confirmed User
    • Dec 2002
    • 1062

    #2
    Wow.

    That's strange.

    Why would they ask a webmaster to never sign up again?

    Wouldn't a program owner try to speak with the webmaster first?

    Strange.

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    • Dj Furious
      Confirmed User
      • Jan 2003
      • 505

      #3
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      • ry0t
        So Fucking Banned
        • Feb 2003
        • 4160

        #4
        Originally posted by lEricPl
        Wow.

        That's strange.

        Why would they ask a webmaster to never sign up again?

        Wouldn't a program owner try to speak with the webmaster first?

        Strange.
        See this is my point from the other thread.. When you're a bigtimer and you have a lot of money you just do not care about the small timers. You put all small timers in the same scammer category so if one does something bad and you need to close his account this bigtimer will not care to even talk to him because again they put ALL smalltimers in the same category. Although this has never happened to me, I know how it goes.

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        • PornHero
          Confirmed User
          • Feb 2001
          • 1381

          #5
          yes it is strange considering I've had this account for months and sent signups to a variety of their sites. The only thing I can think of is my account met some sort of threshhold out of plain chance and they don't consider the # of signups an account sends in their decision-making process - oh well.. c'est la fucking vie...
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          • grumpy
            Too lazy to set a custom title
            • Jan 2002
            • 9870

            #6
            thats number 2 in an hour :-)
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            • FlyingIguana
              aspiring banker
              • Mar 2002
              • 10870

              #7
              1 or 2 per pay period? thats a small sample size. unless you have an extremely large number of chargebacks i can't see why they would drop you.

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              • SpaceAce
                Confirmed User
                • Jul 2002
                • 6493

                #8
                This is the second or third thread about this in the last couple of hours. I sure won't be sending any more traffic to Nasty Dollars.

                SpaceAce

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                • NetRodent
                  Confirmed User
                  • Jan 2002
                  • 3985

                  #9
                  Odds are NastyDollars woke up one morning and realized their anti-fraud system isn't up to snuff. They caught the problem and decided to "clean house".
                  "Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats."
                  --H.L. Mencken

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                  • PornHero
                    Confirmed User
                    • Feb 2001
                    • 1381

                    #10
                    Originally posted by FlyingIguana
                    1 or 2 per pay period? thats a small sample size. unless you have an extremely large number of chargebacks i can't see why they would drop you.
                    I agree... we will see if they respond to my email. They could just be doing some housecleaning regardless of the number of sales an account sends. I still have 2 other active accounts with them, does this mean I can't send traffic to those accounts either?
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                    • evildick

                      #11
                      I wonder if Oxcash will be following suit...

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                      • seven
                        Confirmed User
                        • Apr 2002
                        • 2697

                        #12
                        WOW! I got the exact same email too.. too funny lol. WooHoo! Finally someone caught onto my fraud schemes after 5&1/2 years in this biz and damn me! I was only thinking they were shaving me instead or something.. since the ratio was so inconsistent.. oh well..
                        Toy Rev
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                        • Mr.Fiction
                          Confirmed User
                          • Feb 2002
                          • 9484

                          #13
                          Is anyone who got this email doing 100's of signups a month?
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                          • Snake Doctor
                            I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                            • Mar 2001
                            • 13449

                            #14
                            *goes to check email*
                            sig too big

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                            • seven
                              Confirmed User
                              • Apr 2002
                              • 2697

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
                              Is anyone who got this email doing 100's of signups a month?
                              I send my 1000s sign-ups elsewhere. But tell you this, this is a small filtered part of the same traffic that goes to my other sponsors.. one of which I know for fact has a CB ratio of 0.52% besides I got the same traffic sources as many other hotshots on this board ofcourse
                              Toy Rev
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                              • TrashTalk
                                Registered User
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 94

                                #16
                                wow!!
                                I was going trough affiliate programs terms to learn more about how things work in sponsorland and the first thing that caught my attention is that some have almost no rules and some have a whole lawbook full of them.

                                It seems webmaster have been fucking sponsors and sponsors have been fucking webmasters back and fort for over 5 years now.

                                I am curious how this will go on/end and in which form it will still be profitable for both.

                                A other question I have is who landed the first punch.Who started this love/hate relationship.Webmaster or sponsor?...and more important..who will trow the K.O
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                                • Xtc-Xtc
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Apr 2002
                                  • 1475

                                  #17
                                  I'm surprised your account was nailed with the smaller signup numbers, shit you would have to think that in order to be killed for a High CB ratio on 2 sales a period, that those 2 sales consistantly Charged back. Might simply be an error on their part, and if so im sure they will answer you in a timely fashion. I think it's safe to say whether Big fish or Small fish no sponsor likes terminating accounts, and would probably wish to avoid it, unless ofcourse the webmasters ways (cheating etc.) are as blatant as fuck.
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                                  • Nurgle
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Feb 2001
                                    • 2337

                                    #18
                                    I got this email... but i can still access my account.. i suspect this is just a HOAX email?

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                                    • x582
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Mar 2002
                                      • 609

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Nurgle
                                      I got this email... but i can still access my account.. i suspect this is just a HOAX email?

                                      Nurgle
                                      It's not a hoax

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                                      • goBigtime
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Nov 2002
                                        • 7761

                                        #20
                                        Does it really matter?

                                        Nasty Dollars is a per signup program.

                                        Apparently when they term you, they are are paying you any & all monies owed.. so no harm no foul?

                                        THey don't like your traffic, it's their right to not want to do business with you if it isn't profitable for them.


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                                        • Flow
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Aug 2002
                                          • 518

                                          #21
                                          Gotta ask the most logical questions here (as a fellow Nasty Dollar promoter)....

                                          a) How were you sending traffic to them?


                                          b) Were you using a lot of their content?


                                          c) Were you cheating and got busted?


                                          Flow

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                                          • Porn Mickey
                                            we all love porn
                                            • Nov 2001
                                            • 2840

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by goBigtime
                                            Does it really matter?

                                            Nasty Dollars is a per signup program.

                                            Apparently when they term you, they are are paying you any & all monies owed.. so no harm no foul?

                                            THey don't like your traffic, it's their right to not want to do business with you if it isn't profitable for them.


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                                            • SomeCreep
                                              :glugglug
                                              • Mar 2003
                                              • 26118

                                              #23
                                              Ernesto is cool in my book. He always replys to emails sent.

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                                              • Carrie
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Apr 2002
                                                • 3162

                                                #24
                                                It's not so hard to have a high chargeback ratio with 1-2 signups per week.
                                                That's max 8 signups per month - so if just 1 of them chargeback that's a 12% chargeback rate on your traffic. Makes it look really bad because of the smaller numbers.
                                                Whereas if someone's sending 50 signups per pay period and 2 people charge back, it doesn't raise any flags because the percentage is lower.

                                                Funny that you can still access your account though - maybe they were hoping you wouldn't see the email and would just keep sending them traffic thinking things were normal.

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                                                • richard123
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Mar 2001
                                                  • 491

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by goBigtime
                                                  Does it really matter?

                                                  Nasty Dollars is a per signup program.

                                                  Apparently when they term you, they are are paying you any & all monies owed.. so no harm no foul?
                                                  That's yet to be determined, no? Another on of the big players *say* they will pay you out, but the check never comes and emails aren't responded to.

                                                  Besides - if they're chargebacks, why should they pay?

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                                                  • Kappy
                                                    Registered User
                                                    • May 2002
                                                    • 67

                                                    #26
                                                    I've got the exact same email from them about 7 hours ago like you pornhero. Account deminated and already closed. I've sent them only 4 signups in this year so far, all via their hosted galleries. Still waiting for a response from them...

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                                                    • SpaceAce
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Jul 2002
                                                      • 6493

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by richard123

                                                      Besides - if they're chargebacks, why should they pay?
                                                      Because unless the terms you agreed to include deuctions for chargebacks, they owe you $xx per signup, not $xx - chargebacks.

                                                      SpaceAce

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                                                      • Adult Movie Cash
                                                        Registered User
                                                        • Nov 2001
                                                        • 14

                                                        #28
                                                        I got canned as well...
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                                                        • PornHero
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Feb 2001
                                                          • 1381

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Flow
                                                          Gotta ask the most logical questions here (as a fellow Nasty Dollar promoter)....

                                                          a) How were you sending traffic to them?


                                                          b) Were you using a lot of their content?


                                                          c) Were you cheating and got busted?


                                                          Flow
                                                          a) I sent them search engine traffic looking for "tits" as well as people looking for "paysites". I am thinking that the surfers looking for paysites are a bit more knowledgeable and cancelled as soon as they saw the ND members area. I have never seen the ND members' areas myself, are they any good?

                                                          b) I was using a minimal amount of their content.

                                                          c) I was not cheating. But I did have an international address on the terminated account . Where as my other still active ND accounts that I sent the same traffic to have my main Canadian address. Maybe they termed me based on that. Who knows.

                                                          Still have not heard back from ND yet. Not holding my breath though.
                                                          PornHero.com

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                                                          • trafficker
                                                            Registered User
                                                            • Feb 2003
                                                            • 31

                                                            #30
                                                            they've only recently started accepting new webmasters again after a break

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                                                            • seven
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Apr 2002
                                                              • 2697

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by goBigtime
                                                              THey don't like your traffic, it's their right to not want to do business with you if it isn't profitable for them.
                                                              I wasn't gonna argue with you yet I'd say this is the same traffic my other sponsors could die for. Same traffic ND gets from many of their big hitters.

                                                              Now, I know Ernesto from back when i used to buy slots on Sublime Directory. I spoke with him on the phone many times. I have no doubt he is a nice guy yet don't think it was nice of him to just term an account like they did.

                                                              I really give a rats ass if they termed my account or not since I had aleready replaced half of their links with other proggies. I was gonna change rest of the links to recurs too soon. I didn't like the idea that they converted 1:800 one period and 1:9000 the next. I don't give a rats ass if they pay or not either but that email actually did bother me. Also bothers me when a moron says
                                                              c) Were you cheating and got busted?
                                                              Is that what you asked your mom lately?
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                                                              • seven
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Apr 2002
                                                                • 2697

                                                                #32
                                                                Most of my signups went to megacockcr I can actually see them getting chargebacks if those fakes were not done very well in member's area..
                                                                Toy Rev
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                                                                • Spice
                                                                  Registered User
                                                                  • Feb 2003
                                                                  • 83

                                                                  #33
                                                                  I guess on the possitive side, they DID contact you to let ya know what they were doing and did pay you up to a point rather than just cutting you off and not telling you, that shows that they do have respect for ya anyways

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                                                                  • slapass
                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                    • Nov 2002
                                                                    • 14625

                                                                    #34
                                                                    What was the question about using too much of their content? is their a level I should be watching?

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                                                                    • jact
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Sep 2002
                                                                      • 9134

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Why was it sent "To: undisclosed recipients" ? Strange. Have you verified that your account has in fact been terminated?
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                                                                      • EscortBiz
                                                                        Fuck Checks, CASH only!
                                                                        • May 2002
                                                                        • 19422

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by seven

                                                                        I send my 1000s sign-ups elsewhere. But tell you this, this is a small filtered part of the same traffic that goes to my other sponsors.. one of which I know for fact has a CB ratio of 0.52% besides I got the same traffic sources as many other hotshots on this board ofcourse
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                                                                        • Wizzo
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                                                                          • Nov 2000
                                                                          • 15224

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by goBigtime
                                                                          Does it really matter?

                                                                          Nasty Dollars is a per signup program.

                                                                          Apparently when they term you, they are are paying you any & all monies owed.. so no harm no foul?

                                                                          THey don't like your traffic, it's their right to not want to do business with you if it isn't profitable for them.

                                                                          VERY WELL SAID....

                                                                          In the future I think we will see more and more sponsors get more selective about the traffic being bought... For example, Just a few years ago, most sponsors would accept celeb traffic, yet after a few lawsuits, many don't allow it anymore... VISA/MC also pose a threat, and if you are only sending 1or2 signups a month, it doesn't take much for your signups to kick over the chargeback threshold...

                                                                          Affiliates are selling traffic to Sponsors and sponsors do have the right to buy, or not buy, traffic from whoever they want...

                                                                          Nastydollars was standup in the fact, that they are paying you for what you sent up to the time they decided to terminate the partnership...
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                                                                          • seven
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Apr 2002
                                                                            • 2697

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by EscortBiz
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                                                                            Sure, here they are:

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                                                                            No man I'm sure you know the secrets too.. just put 'em to work that's all
                                                                            What was the question about using too much of their content? is their a level I should be watching?
                                                                            Don't think he knows the answer to his own Qs. He's either a newbie or a NEWBIE pretending that he knows what he's talking about
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                                                                            • nastyman
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Feb 2002
                                                                              • 128

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Everyone who thinks they were cancelled unfairly will have their account investigated and if proved right, will be re-instated. We had to do some house cleaning to get rid of the cheaters. Everyone was still payed.

                                                                              We can't afford to pay people that are losing us money. send me an email with your id if you are concerned. btw, we launched inthevip.com yesterday. I think it's the hottest shit to hit the net in a while. the girls are amazing.

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                                                                              • seven
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Apr 2002
                                                                                • 2697

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by nastyman
                                                                                send me an email with your id if you are concerned.
                                                                                Replied to the email you sent right away last night when I got it.. waiting for a reply from you guys now actually.
                                                                                Toy Rev
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                                                                                • seven
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Apr 2002
                                                                                  • 2697

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Nastyman, thanks
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                                                                                  • nicchick
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Feb 2003
                                                                                    • 316

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    I just got "Terminated" too. The only site I was promoting from them was Cum Fiesta. I decide to take a look at the stats of a recurring site I promote who is 1 of their competitors, to see how "Bad" my traffic was. Heres the Numbers for the last year-

                                                                                    Sign-ups- 512 Rebills- 620 Cancellations-3 Chargebacks 0

                                                                                    Funny thing is , that this is exactly the same traffic, I am sending to Nasty Dollars. Really makes you wonder...

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                                                                                    • drunkdollars
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Apr 2002
                                                                                      • 2734

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by nicchick
                                                                                      I just got "Terminated" too. The only site I was promoting from them was Cum Fiesta. I decide to take a look at the stats of a recurring site I promote who is 1 of their competitors, to see how "Bad" my traffic was. Heres the Numbers for the last year-

                                                                                      Sign-ups- 512 Rebills- 620 Cancellations-3 Chargebacks 0

                                                                                      Funny thing is , that this is exactly the same traffic, I am sending to Nasty Dollars. Really makes you wonder...

                                                                                      Ill take that traffic any day. Send it our way ..
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