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How To Make 30 G's A Year From A Shaving Sponsor?

05-09-2003, 07:19 AM

I always said I'd share this trick a year after when I no longer need to use it, and it's about that time.

Are you using a sponsor that you know is shaving/stealing sign-ups?

Here's how to make money from the theives?

Send them fake traffic (the old image source trick)

Since there giving you sales when they feel like it (at random).
Send them fake traffic (hitbot) and they'll give you sales without you have to waste your real traffic.

*Note this only works on shaving sponsors
I found a few, can you find some?

Some people will say I'm wrong for posting this, and that I'm wrong for having used this at one point and time.

But hey a sponsor who shaves is a sponsor who steals.

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05-09-2003, 07:29 AM

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05-09-2003, 07:31 AM

Originally posted by Platinum Lantern
*Note this only works on shaving sponsors
I found a few, can you find some?

Some people will say I'm wrong for posting this, and that I'm wrong for having used this at one point and time.

But hey a sponsor who shaves is a sponsor who steals.

If you're no longer using this trick, then surely you can tell us the sponsors you used it on?

(note, I'm more interested in this as proof of shaving rather than cheating the sponsor...)
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05-09-2003, 07:31 AM

Escort Biz, I have to strongly disagree with you...

I'm not the type of webmaster to tell you about what my friends did, or what I saw somebody else doing one time.

I'm talking to you about what I did, what made me 28 G's in a year, from 0% real traffic.

Now ask yourself, why would a sponsor give me sign-ups and for fake traffic?

Did I find a hole in the matrix?

Or were they just randomly sending out sales to people who sent decent amounts of traffic?

Without actual tracking?

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05-09-2003, 07:32 AM

Originally posted by Platinum Lantern
I always said I'd share this trick a year after when I no longer need to use it, and it's about that time.

Are you using a sponsor that you know is shaving/stealing sign-ups?

Here's how to make money from the theives?

Send them fake traffic (the old image source trick)

Since there giving you sales when they feel like it (at random).
Send them fake traffic (hitbot) and they'll give you sales without you have to waste your real traffic.

*Note this only works on shaving sponsors
I found a few, can you find some?

Some people will say I'm wrong for posting this, and that I'm wrong for having used this at one point and time.

But hey a sponsor who shaves is a sponsor who steals.

I'm sure either your proof will be forthcoming or an excuse about why you can't show proof, or an attack on me for asking for proof.

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05-09-2003, 07:36 AM

If a sponsor was to shave, you'd think their fraud scrubbing would be good enough not to pay unless there was actually signups coming in...

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05-09-2003, 07:39 AM

Well 12 clicks...

I'm not really trying to produce the "proof" that could result in a lawsuit of some sort.....

I'm not your average messageboard webmaster..
I don't talk about just to talk about it...

My whole purpose for this post is to help eliminate some shaving sponsors, I had a conversation with a webmaster this week and he was expressing his hardship of sending quality traffic to a sponsor that was converting at 1:2000 for him...

In the ebony niche, they're aren't many options....
I've seen people stick with a shaving sponsor just so they could see "SOME MONEY COMING IN"....

I feel like a webmaster deserves to see all his money coming in..
Not just being happy with the 50% of sales that a dirty program manager feels like paying you for.

I know I speak the truth, so I don't feel like I gotta go out showing proof from 2000.

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05-09-2003, 07:47 AM

Originally posted by Platinum Lantern
Well 12 clicks...

I'm not really trying to produce the "proof" that could result in a lawsuit of some sort.....

I'm not your average messageboard webmaster..
I don't talk about just to talk about it...

My whole purpose for this post is to help eliminate some shaving sponsors, I had a conversation with a webmaster this week and he was expressing his hardship of sending quality traffic to a sponsor that was converting at 1:2000 for him...

In the ebony niche, they're aren't many options....
I've seen people stick with a shaving sponsor just so they could see "SOME MONEY COMING IN"....

I feel like a webmaster deserves to see all his money coming in..
Not just being happy with the 50% of sales that a dirty program manager feels like paying you for.

I know I speak the truth, so I don't feel like I gotta go out showing proof from 2000.

Well I've got a few questions then.

How will not exposing them stop anyone?
why aren't you still doing it?

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05-09-2003, 07:49 AM

Shaving means only crediting a certain percentage of your signups, not crediting an arbitrary number of signups.

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05-09-2003, 07:51 AM

The big announcement on ARS Radio and now this?
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05-09-2003, 07:55 AM

Originally posted by Carrie
The big announcement on ARS Radio and now this?

Im sorry, Carrie, I must have missed it, but what was the big announcement at ARS Radio?
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05-09-2003, 07:56 AM

Originally posted by gothweb
Shaving means only crediting a certain percentage of your signups, not crediting an arbitrary number of signups.

That doesn't make for some good BS story about how to make 30G's a year...

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05-09-2003, 07:57 AM

Here is the code:

<IMG src="http://www.shavingsponsor.com/linkingcode" WIDTH=1 HEIGHT=1>

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After 18 months, it didn't work anymore...
I went from $1200 checks every 2 weeks to $0 for several pay periods. The game was over, evidently they stopped shaving or figured it out.

My account is still open to this day though....

I don't feel like I need to expose the sponsor....
That was 2 years ago

There are people who actively try to get webmasters to their shaving sponsors right now and even on GFY I've heard, and hopefully this will make it harder for them to shave and maybe get them to discard their bad business habits and start paying webmasters correctly

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05-09-2003, 07:57 AM

i think this is bullshit. why would a sponsor give sign ups when there aren't any coming in?
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05-09-2003, 07:58 AM

Originally posted by Carrie
The big announcement on ARS Radio and now this?

what big announcemenet?

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05-09-2003, 08:01 AM

Originally posted by Carrie
The big announcement on ARS Radio and now this?

This post has nothing to do with ARS, I am an ARS webmaster and they are my #1 sponsor and the #1 sponsor I recommend to webmasters who want More Control and More Options when it comes to adult revenue.

Carrie I'm posting about something from 2 years ago when I first started making galleries.

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05-09-2003, 08:10 AM

Platinum, maybe an equally valid alternative interpretation of your facts is that instead of shaving, the sponsor is giving free signups to webmasters who, at least according to their tracking system, are sending traffic but having no luck with signups. Basically, it incentivizes them to stay with the program in addition to paying for actual signups by webmasters who are able to convert.
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05-09-2003, 08:11 AM

You could kind of imagine this working, but the sponsor would have to be so full of shit it's unreal.

They would have to have given up any sort of real attempt at measuring aything but affiliate hits and sales overall for the program, possible I guess with some smaller operators - the adult industry is full of shit in general so possible.
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05-09-2003, 08:14 AM

Originally posted by papichulo
Platinum, maybe an equally valid alternative interpretation of your facts is that instead of shaving, the sponsor is giving free signups to webmasters who, at least according to their tracking system, are sending traffic but having no luck with signups.

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05-09-2003, 08:15 AM

Originally posted by papichulo
Platinum, maybe an equally valid alternative interpretation of your facts is that instead of shaving, the sponsor is giving free signups to webmasters who, at least according to their tracking system, are sending traffic but having no luck with signups. Basically, it incentivizes them to stay with the program in addition to paying for actual signups by webmasters who are able to convert.

But this worked for 18 months...
You have an interesting perspective and perhaps that could have been the case but for a year and a half no way.

This whole thing ended when they bounced a check.....
I contacted the owner by ICQ....
no reply
the phone number listed on the program info is a fax number...
it's obvious to me this guy was scamming....

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05-09-2003, 08:17 AM

Originally posted by Platinum Lantern

This post has nothing to do with ARS, I am an ARS webmaster and they are my #1 sponsor and the #1 sponsor I recommend to webmasters who want More Control and More Options when it comes to adult revenue.

Carrie I'm posting about something from 2 years ago when I first started making galleries.

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05-09-2003, 08:17 AM

what ratio did you have with this strange sponsor?
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05-09-2003, 08:23 AM

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05-09-2003, 09:01 AM

is cheating a cheat the solution...? i think not...if what you're saying is correct wouldn't those sponsors who credit signups
for fake traffic have to shave even more to make bank ?

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05-09-2003, 09:05 AM

Originally posted by AWW - Kevin
is cheating a cheat the solution...? i think not...if what you're saying is correct wouldn't those sponsors who credit signups
for fake traffic have to shave even more to make bank ?

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05-09-2003, 09:15 AM

This is a stupid thread??.... No sponsor is going to credit you with a sign up that never really happened. They may (and do) shave sign ups that did happen, but no way they will credit you any sign ups when none really happened.
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05-09-2003, 09:23 AM

You must have found the dumbest sponser in the world. Personally I don't believe a word of this story but I'm sure the gang that believes every sponser is crooked will buy in.

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05-09-2003, 09:24 AM

You are forgetting the third possibility. Hit bots really DO have credit cards!
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05-09-2003, 09:31 AM

I would make damn sure the person you plan on defrauding with your fake hits and fake sales is cheating you because what your talking about doing is illegal. And hit bots and all that shit doesnt work on the big programs anyways.

I dont see how any major program could shave signups anyways. We are trying everything we can to get as many signups through to our webmasters as we can. I cant see how doing the opposite could benifit a company who is in this biz for the long haul.

The notion that companies shave is old news and may have happened back in the day when everyone converted 1:100 on shit traffic and members stayed for 6 months. But not now... Signups arent as easy to convert.
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05-09-2003, 09:50 AM

Agreed, serious programs like silvercash who are in business for the long haul have always appreciated webmasters and run good businesses...

I simply ran across one of the scammers of the early internet era..

I'm not proud about my actions, but age 18, when my classmates were settling for $5.50 an hour at burgerking it seemed like a great idea

I've promoted Silvercash since I became a "professional" webmaster and always saw good results, you run a good program.

And I hope you can understand the decisions of my youth

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05-09-2003, 09:53 AM

PLantern.. I hear ya.

I was just suggesting against all that stuff. Webmaster fraud is one of the largest contributers to lowering of payouts. We deal with so much fraud everyday its crazy. I mean we seriously delete 10 accounts daily for fraud.

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05-09-2003, 10:22 AM

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The notion that companies shave is old news and may have happened back in the day when everyone converted 1:100 on shit traffic and members stayed for 6 months. But not now... Signups arent as easy to convert.

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I would make damn sure the person you plan on defrauding with your fake hits and fake sales is cheating you because what your talking about doing is illegal

How is this "cheating" or "illegal"?
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05-09-2003, 10:22 AM

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05-09-2003, 10:45 AM

Originally posted by LAMike
PLantern.. I hear ya.

I was just suggesting against all that stuff. Webmaster fraud is one of the largest contributers to lowering of payouts. We deal with so much fraud everyday its crazy. I mean we seriously delete 10 accounts daily for fraud.

Thanks for the comments on SC

damn thats a lot of fraud. is it the same people signing up multiple times?
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05-09-2003, 10:48 AM

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05-09-2003, 10:53 AM

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05-09-2003, 10:58 AM

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05-09-2003, 11:17 AM

Platinum Dave, you've stated before that I don't have anything to do with platinumbucks.....

I'm pretty sure 99% of this industry knows that

So I don't think you need to say it again

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05-09-2003, 11:20 AM

Originally posted by Platinum Lantern
Platinum Dave, you've stated before that I don't have anything to do with platinumbucks.....

I'm pretty sure 99% of this industry knows that

So I don't think you need to say it again

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05-09-2003, 11:21 AM

Rockdaddy.. I said fake hits AND fake sales ;)
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05-09-2003, 12:04 PM

Originally posted by LAMike

The notion that companies shave is old news and may have happened back in the day when everyone converted 1:100 on shit traffic and members stayed for 6 months. But not now... Signups arent as easy to convert.

I think there are a lot of holes in your theory there Mike.
If members used to stay for 6 months and now stay on average for what, about 1.3 months, isn't the incentive or even the "need" to shave signups that much higher now than it was back then?

Signups aren't as easy to convert, and everyone knows that, which is why we all tolerate 1 in 1000+ conversion ratios. "Back then" if you were worse than 1 in 300 they'd drop you and find another sponsor.

I'm not implying that your program does anything unethical, but your theory about how people might have shaved in the past but can't get away with it anymore doesn't make much sense to me.

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05-09-2003, 12:51 PM

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05-09-2003, 12:58 PM

platinum lantern

by giving us this information do you mean to tell us that ars is shaving?

i would think so especially as you are their new eitf for ebony seems to me like they perhaps havent made the best choice as a spokesperson for their program here especially as you openly telling people to cheat sponsor programs.
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05-09-2003, 01:08 PM

Originally posted by LAMike

The notion that companies shave is old news and may have happened back in the day when everyone converted 1:100 on shit traffic and members stayed for 6 months. But not now... Signups arent as easy to convert.

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