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  • PaulSweet
    Confirmed User
    • May 2002
    • 1094

    #1

    Accacia vs. HomeGrown? Any more news?

    Any more news on Accacia vs HomeGrown Video?

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  • LeeNoga
    Confirmed User
    • Jul 2001
    • 3043

    #2
    What news do you got?

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    • Far-L
      Confirmed User
      • Feb 2002
      • 6065

      #3
      Well... first off... thanks for asking! Let me say that these views are mine
      alone and not the views of the IMPA or any other company.

      I should qualify my reply... Acacia is not just coming after Homegrown...
      Acacia is coming after tons of companies and not just the adult companies.

      Few realize what a threat this is to all of our businesses. Acacia is trying
      to get one to three percent of gross income from anyone that uses streams and
      or downloads.

      That means not just the content providers are fucked but also everyone that
      uses their content as well. Not only that... Acacia is asking content
      providers AND sponsors to "rat out" anyone that they are affiliated with so
      they can go bang on them for that percentage as well.

      In short, all companies in the content biz, adult or mainstream, are direly
      impacted by the threat Acacia poses.

      There is a trade organization called the Internet Media Protection
      Association that has hired one of the best patent firms in the world to fight
      this. http://www.fr.com We strongly encourage everyone to support this
      organization to help fight Acacia. The IMPA is a non profit corp and I will
      post more info about them shortly.

      Companies like Video Secrets, Matrix, Lightspeed, AEBN, Audio Communications,
      Holio, Gamelink, and more have already dumped serious cash into fighting this
      and I strongly encourage everyone to support these companies directly. They
      are spending money to protect each and every one of us.

      Already, there is a sentiment that "well, they are spending their cash to
      fight this so I don't have to do anything..."

      That is a bullshit. Would you tell a soldier hitting the beach in Normandy
      that he has to buy his own bullets because Hitler doesn't have any
      concentration camps on US soil?

      Acacia's ambition is to make us all pay them till the day our companies die.
      They want to make us slaves to their whims.

      This is for all of us to join together and fight as one.

      Once again, thanks for asking.
      Last edited by Eric; 05-08-2003, 03:01 PM.
      HomegrownCash.com, the affiliate program of Homegrown Video - The Largest Collection of Amateur XXX - Est. 1982.
      Contact
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      • drops
        Confirmed User
        • Feb 2002
        • 1116

        #4
        Far-L,

        We support you guys 110%. It is only fair that we has an industry help the companies that fight for us.

        It's the least we can do.

        Those who don't, get the fuck out .




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        • Mr.Fiction
          Confirmed User
          • Feb 2002
          • 9484

          #5
          So where is the specific info on how to financially support the fight?
          Don't be lazy, protect free speech: ACLU | Free Speech Coalition | EFF | IMPA

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          • SleazyDream
            I'm here for SPORT
            • Jul 2001
            • 41470

            #6
            nail those bastard lawyers
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            • Far-L
              Confirmed User
              • Feb 2002
              • 6065

              #7
              The IMPA is waiting for the Secretary of State to file the paperwork and send down the appropriate incorporation materials. With that, an account can be established. Once the account is set up, there will a place to put the donations. The IMPA will have strict guidelines to adhere to in order to maintain its non profit status. There will also be fiduciary responsibility to maintain so that the legitimacy of the organization is beyond reproach.

              We are doing this completely by the book.

              The IMPA will not only address the Acacia matter but also any other pertinent issues that impact web media businesses.
              HomegrownCash.com, the affiliate program of Homegrown Video - The Largest Collection of Amateur XXX - Est. 1982.
              Contact
              - Email: farrell AT homegrownvideo D com Skype: hgfarl
              Newsweek Magazine - "Homegrown Video, the longest running series in the history of porn."

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              • quiet
                we'll miss you our friend. RIP
                • Sep 2001
                • 25115

                #8
                Originally posted by Far-L
                The IMPA is waiting for the Secretary of State to file the paperwork and send down the appropriate incorporation materials. With that, an account can be established. Once the account is set up, there will a place to put the donations. The IMPA will have strict guidelines to adhere to in order to maintain its non profit status. There will also be fiduciary responsibility to maintain so that the legitimacy of the organization is beyond reproach.

                We are doing this completely by the book.

                The IMPA will not only address the Acacia matter but also any other pertinent issues that impact web media businesses.
                please let us know when a donation form has been set up...
                we'll miss you our friend. RIP

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                • Far-L
                  Confirmed User
                  • Feb 2002
                  • 6065

                  #9
                  Quiet: Thanks! I will certainly be banging the drums quite loudly when it is ready. We want to do some fundraising events at the trade shows and figure out ways that we can create incentives to help out... not that protecting one's income from a "tax" of 3% on their gross is not incentive enough... but let's face it... some people want something back right then rather than waiting for something that will happen in the future...
                  HomegrownCash.com, the affiliate program of Homegrown Video - The Largest Collection of Amateur XXX - Est. 1982.
                  Contact
                  - Email: farrell AT homegrownvideo D com Skype: hgfarl
                  Newsweek Magazine - "Homegrown Video, the longest running series in the history of porn."

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                  • Nina
                    Confirmed User
                    • Mar 2002
                    • 2687

                    #10
                    very cool Far-L... I'm sure you'll keep us posted.

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                    • Paul Markham
                      Too old to care
                      • Jun 2001
                      • 52942

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Far-L
                      The IMPA is waiting for the Secretary of State to file the paperwork and send down the appropriate incorporation materials. With that, an account can be established. Once the account is set up, there will a place to put the donations. The IMPA will have strict guidelines to adhere to in order to maintain its non profit status. There will also be fiduciary responsibility to maintain so that the legitimacy of the organization is beyond reproach.

                      We are doing this completely by the book.

                      The IMPA will not only address the Acacia matter but also any other pertinent issues that impact web media businesses.
                      Give us the info as well. We are not effected by this, Czech is not covered by these International patents, but this hurts our clients and industry. Tell us where to send the money.



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                      • SGS
                        Confirmed User
                        • Dec 2002
                        • 5176

                        #12
                        Originally posted by quiet


                        please let us know when a donation form has been set up...
                        I am also looking forward to this information.
                        See sig...

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                        • Kevin2
                          Confirmed User
                          • May 2003
                          • 1429

                          #13
                          Are you planning on setting up some sort of a membership database we can join so that the progress can be reported to us?

                          You could also use this database to request donations as and when they are needed.

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                          • Carrie
                            Confirmed User
                            • Apr 2002
                            • 3162

                            #14
                            Any luck getting Microsoft's (Media Player) attention and Real Networks' attention? Or any very large powerful players such as CNN, MSNBC, Fox News Network who all stream video from their sites?
                            Any one of the above companies being involved as "interested parties" (I think it's called? or possibly "affected parties"?) would definitely put this on the front-burner and make Acacia sit up and take notice... and possibly sit the fuck down and shut up.

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                            • Carrie
                              Confirmed User
                              • Apr 2002
                              • 3162

                              #15
                              PS - I'd also like to know when the organization is set up, my email should be in the Altmasters database.

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                              • Sausage
                                Confirmed User
                                • Oct 2002
                                • 3012

                                #16
                                Microsoft etc wouldn't be seen dead working with porn webmasters.

                                However it might be worth a go, as their legal dept is larger than most of their rivals entire companies.
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                                • Far-L
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Feb 2002
                                  • 6065

                                  #17
                                  We are certainly wooing all companies that are affected by this, not just adult companies.

                                  I cannot be specific but I can say that we have moved very positively in this regard to bring in others.

                                  The IMPA will not be an exclusively adult trade organization.

                                  I thank you all for the tremendous support!
                                  HomegrownCash.com, the affiliate program of Homegrown Video - The Largest Collection of Amateur XXX - Est. 1982.
                                  Contact
                                  - Email: farrell AT homegrownvideo D com Skype: hgfarl
                                  Newsweek Magazine - "Homegrown Video, the longest running series in the history of porn."

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                                  • KRL
                                    Entrepreneur
                                    • Oct 2002
                                    • 31429

                                    #18
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                                    • VideoJ
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Aug 2002
                                      • 750

                                      #19
                                      Far-L, I too am waiting for the info for donating to the defense fund for this.

                                      The best company to get involved in this is Apple. They were developing Quicktime around the time this patent was issued and would have prior art. Microsoft got into digital video a couple of years later.
                                      Somebody stole my damn signture...

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                                      • Far-L
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Feb 2002
                                        • 6065

                                        #20
                                        VideoJ: Thanks for the tip. If anyone knows any techs that go back to the roots of creating the technology to send video and audio over the internet, than that would be a tremendous help.

                                        Others have made suggestions and I can assure everyone that we are looking into every possible angle.

                                        The most helpful information will be regarding material published in the US prior to 1989.
                                        HomegrownCash.com, the affiliate program of Homegrown Video - The Largest Collection of Amateur XXX - Est. 1982.
                                        Contact
                                        - Email: farrell AT homegrownvideo D com Skype: hgfarl
                                        Newsweek Magazine - "Homegrown Video, the longest running series in the history of porn."

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                                        • PaulSweet
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • May 2002
                                          • 1094

                                          #21
                                          Far-L - thanks for replying with so much info!

                                          I know that we here at Sweet are 100% behind this.


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                                          Home to the MAX HARDCORE video Plugin!

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                                          • Far-L
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Feb 2002
                                            • 6065

                                            #22
                                            VideoJ: Thanks for the tip. If anyone knows any techs that go back to the roots of creating the technology to send video and audio over the internet, than that would be a tremendous help.

                                            Others have made suggestions and I can assure everyone that we are looking into every possible angle.

                                            The most helpful information will be regarding material published in the US prior to 1989.
                                            HomegrownCash.com, the affiliate program of Homegrown Video - The Largest Collection of Amateur XXX - Est. 1982.
                                            Contact
                                            - Email: farrell AT homegrownvideo D com Skype: hgfarl
                                            Newsweek Magazine - "Homegrown Video, the longest running series in the history of porn."

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                                            • VideoJ
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Aug 2002
                                              • 750

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Far-L


                                              The most helpful information will be regarding material published in the US prior to 1989.
                                              Far-L, who is handling the technical/prior research for your legal team? Have him e-mail me as there is a lot more info I can pass along that will help. I was writing software for quicktime in 1990, among other things so I know a lot of the history. And if I know what he is looking for, I can get even more.

                                              VideoJ
                                              jerry at photogregg.com
                                              Somebody stole my damn signture...

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                                              • LadyMischief
                                                Orgasms N Such!
                                                • Sep 2002
                                                • 18135

                                                #24
                                                Very happy to hear something will be set up.. tell us where to send our donation when it's ready.

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                                                • Far-L
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Feb 2002
                                                  • 6065

                                                  #25
                                                  Thanks Lady Mischief!

                                                  We are completely open to fund raising ideas if anyone has any... JMM came up with a good one to put one year memberships up on ebay and give the proceeds to the IMPA... another idea has been suggested to do webmaster events at the trade shows...

                                                  At this point, we are entirely open to suggestions.
                                                  HomegrownCash.com, the affiliate program of Homegrown Video - The Largest Collection of Amateur XXX - Est. 1982.
                                                  Contact
                                                  - Email: farrell AT homegrownvideo D com Skype: hgfarl
                                                  Newsweek Magazine - "Homegrown Video, the longest running series in the history of porn."

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                                                  • HairToStay
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Oct 2002
                                                    • 1521

                                                    #26
                                                    Run a small auction with donations from adult webmasters. Get people to offer exclusive content, video feeds, design work, etc. I'd gladly donate what I could and I'm sure everyone else would be willing.
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                                                    • Tipsy
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Jul 2001
                                                      • 6989

                                                      #27
                                                      People always find hard cash difficult to part with. However they'll often find it easier to agree to a small % of something before the cash actually hits their bank. Would any of the large sponsors consider doing a little work to give an option for people to donate a % of all their sales until this has been won? I'm sure many more would jump in and donate this way than asking for hard cash from them.

                                                      Either way it's gonna impact us all so I'm right behind the rest on wanting to know the minute donations etc can be taken.
                                                      Ignorance is never bliss.

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                                                      • Far-L
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Feb 2002
                                                        • 6065

                                                        #28
                                                        Hair to Stay: Thanks for the suggestion!

                                                        Tipsy: We are definitely looking for ways to benefit webmasters that are easy to grasp and affordable.

                                                        We are not going to scoff at any amount, or time, or resource that people can offer to help with.
                                                        HomegrownCash.com, the affiliate program of Homegrown Video - The Largest Collection of Amateur XXX - Est. 1982.
                                                        Contact
                                                        - Email: farrell AT homegrownvideo D com Skype: hgfarl
                                                        Newsweek Magazine - "Homegrown Video, the longest running series in the history of porn."

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                                                        • barryf
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Sep 2002
                                                          • 150

                                                          #29
                                                          How can YOU help fight Acacia? I'm glad you asked! Start by sending some joins to the companies that are fighting this threat. Here is an incomplete list:
                                                          1. Video Secrets
                                                          2. Matrix
                                                          3. Lightspeed
                                                          4. AEBN
                                                          5. Audio Communications
                                                          6. Holio
                                                          7. Gamelink
                                                          8. Hustler
                                                          Not only will you be fighting the threat but these guys have some pretty damn good programs, too!

                                                          If you are asking "why should I help some huge company save their ass?" remember that Acacia is after ALL our asses! If these guys fall then WE are next! Start fighting back NOW!

                                                          B
                                                          WEBCAMCASH.COM

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                                                          • Far-L
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Feb 2002
                                                            • 6065

                                                            #30
                                                            BarryF: Great point... but allow me to add...

                                                            ATKcash (as of today... thank you!)


                                                            And of course... who can forget....


                                                            http://www.homegrowncash.com
                                                            HomegrownCash.com, the affiliate program of Homegrown Video - The Largest Collection of Amateur XXX - Est. 1982.
                                                            Contact
                                                            - Email: farrell AT homegrownvideo D com Skype: hgfarl
                                                            Newsweek Magazine - "Homegrown Video, the longest running series in the history of porn."

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                                                            • Far-L
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Feb 2002
                                                              • 6065

                                                              #31
                                                              The views that I have expressed thus far are my personal views and not necessarily the views of the IMPA or any particular company.

                                                              When I can help to present official notices from the IMPA then I will be happy to do so.
                                                              HomegrownCash.com, the affiliate program of Homegrown Video - The Largest Collection of Amateur XXX - Est. 1982.
                                                              Contact
                                                              - Email: farrell AT homegrownvideo D com Skype: hgfarl
                                                              Newsweek Magazine - "Homegrown Video, the longest running series in the history of porn."

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