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  • Brujah
    Beer Money Baron
    • Jan 2001
    • 22157

    #1

    Expired Domains PageRank Follow-up

    So.. by now everyone talks about how Google is killing the expired domains, blah blah.. so I go back to my December PageRank list from Clickmojo...

    Let's take a look.
    cuentosyrelatos.com - PR 7
    acousticguitarfestival.com - PR 7
    chemsafety.com - PR 7 (altho unused/wasted)
    chemsafety.net - PR 7
    fightaboutmoney.com - PR 7 (unused)

    there were 65 more of them.
  • lawked
    Confirmed User
    • Apr 2003
    • 354

    #2
    Brujah,

    You're so right. Even the domains I purchased recently still
    kept their PR. Are you publishing your PR list today?

    GoogleGuy

    This whole business is how people tell you one thing and do
    another. I'm not listening to that guy again ;)

    To your PR lists

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    • lawked
      Confirmed User
      • Apr 2003
      • 354

      #3
      Lastly about Google, they should stop trying to ruin
      peoples business and work around what made them famous.

      Yahoo is on their tail and will take the lead down the stretch
      with the newbies.

      We all go where the newbies are.

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      • Dildozer
        Confirmed User
        • Jul 2002
        • 7519

        #4
        Can't wait for google to go down, not down in flames mind you, but them controling about 80% of the online searches is enought to make most webmasters uneasy
        Spam link here

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        • extreme
          Confirmed User
          • Oct 2002
          • 2120

          #5
          And they have really fucked up this last update..

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          • lawked
            Confirmed User
            • Apr 2003
            • 354

            #6
            Yeah I want Google to go down in flames.

            Google is getting way too much power, thinking they
            own the Internet (they do for now)...

            They will go down, especially pissing off the webmasters that
            made them.

            On a side note, thanks for the traffic Google

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            • 4eym
              Confirmed User
              • Sep 2002
              • 104

              #7
              Originally posted by Brujah
              So.. by now everyone talks about how Google is killing the expired domains, blah blah.. so I go back to my December PageRank list from Clickmojo...

              Let's take a look.
              cuentosyrelatos.com - PR 7
              acousticguitarfestival.com - PR 7
              chemsafety.com - PR 7 (altho unused/wasted)
              chemsafety.net - PR 7
              fightaboutmoney.com - PR 7 (unused)

              there were 65 more of them.

              More, more, more!!!
              If it doesn't make dollars, then it doesn't make sense!

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              • nuclei
                old school fart
                • May 2001
                • 1015

                #8
                Brujah you got google lists now too?
                Damn, I thought we were the only ones with em

                anyone who thinks google is going to pay attention to every one of its millions of domains to see which ones expired and were picked up after is too funny.
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                • Brujah
                  Beer Money Baron
                  • Jan 2001
                  • 22157

                  #9
                  Originally posted by nuclei
                  Brujah you got google lists now too?
                  Damn, I thought we were the only ones with em

                  anyone who thinks google is going to pay attention to every one of its millions of domains to see which ones expired and were picked up after is too funny.
                  I have PageRank lists. Is that what you mean ?
                  The sample from above is from back last December.

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                  • nuclei
                    old school fart
                    • May 2001
                    • 1015

                    #10
                    ahh ok mixed lists
                    if you like hit me up, we can feed you google specifics.
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                    • Brujah
                      Beer Money Baron
                      • Jan 2001
                      • 22157

                      #11
                      Originally posted by nuclei
                      ahh ok mixed lists
                      if you like hit me up, we can feed you google specifics.
                      upsell my site.. make $35 a pop, or $80 on a 3 monther.

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                      • DarkJedi
                        No Refunds Issued.
                        • Feb 2001
                        • 28301

                        #12
                        bullshit.
                        i got several PR6 PR7 expired domains and google killed them off.
                        all are PR0 now

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                        • Brujah
                          Beer Money Baron
                          • Jan 2001
                          • 22157

                          #13
                          Originally posted by DarkJedi
                          bullshit.
                          i got several PR6 PR7 expired domains and google killed them off.
                          all are PR0 now
                          How do you explain the sample above where none of them were lost ?

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                          • nuclei
                            old school fart
                            • May 2001
                            • 1015

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Brujah


                            upsell my site.. make $35 a pop, or $80 on a 3 monther.
                            I was actually talking about feeding you google expireds

                            Seeing as we are one of apparently only 2 that have them.
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                            • nuclei
                              old school fart
                              • May 2001
                              • 1015

                              #15
                              DarkJedi: what did you do with the domains? As in leave em so they had no dns or webpages?

                              When buying expireds with linkpop, *always* put something on them fast.
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                              • Brujah
                                Beer Money Baron
                                • Jan 2001
                                • 22157

                                #16
                                Originally posted by nuclei


                                I was actually talking about feeding you google expireds

                                Seeing as we are one of apparently only 2 that have them.
                                I have the google lp data, but I'm not sure it's as important as the PageRank data. I throw out everything below PR 4.

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                                • DarkJedi
                                  No Refunds Issued.
                                  • Feb 2001
                                  • 28301

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Brujah


                                  How do you explain the sample above where none of them were lost ?
                                  they will probably get banned on the next update.

                                  my domain were godd for about a month, but after the update they got banned. so i think google will catch up on these too.

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                                  • nuclei
                                    old school fart
                                    • May 2001
                                    • 1015

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Brujah


                                    I have the google lp data, but I'm not sure it's as important as the PageRank data. I throw out everything below PR 4.
                                    yeh, depends on what people are trying to find suitable names for.
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                                    • DarkJedi
                                      No Refunds Issued.
                                      • Feb 2001
                                      • 28301

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by nuclei
                                      DarkJedi: what did you do with the domains? As in leave em so they had no dns or webpages?

                                      When buying expireds with linkpop, *always* put something on them fast.
                                      yeah thats what i did: i put the former sites on them (from archive org) right away bu that didnt help.

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                                      • nuclei
                                        old school fart
                                        • May 2001
                                        • 1015

                                        #20
                                        someones been listening to "GoogleGuy" too much.
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                                        • nuclei
                                          old school fart
                                          • May 2001
                                          • 1015

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by DarkJedi


                                          yeah thats what i did: i put the former sites on them (from archive org) right away bu that didnt help.
                                          ummm so you blatantly stole their design and put it on a site that now had yer name... oooookay

                                          most likely one of the previous owners complained. I'd have banned you too.
                                          Last edited by nuclei; 05-06-2003, 12:17 AM.
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                                          • stocktrader23
                                            Let's do some business.
                                            • Jan 2003
                                            • 18781

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by DarkJedi


                                            yeah thats what i did: i put the former sites on them (from archive org) right away bu that didnt help.
                                            Did you grab them the day they dropped? Mine kept PR also. And you put up the old website? lol Isn't that agains copyright etc?


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                                            • funkmaster
                                              So Fucking Banned
                                              • Sep 2001
                                              • 7938

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Brujah
                                              So.. by now everyone talks about how Google is killing the expired domains, blah blah.. so I go back to my December PageRank list from Clickmojo...

                                              Let's take a look.
                                              cuentosyrelatos.com - PR 7
                                              acousticguitarfestival.com - PR 7
                                              chemsafety.com - PR 7 (altho unused/wasted)
                                              chemsafety.net - PR 7
                                              fightaboutmoney.com - PR 7 (unused)

                                              there were 65 more of them.
                                              ... I never said expired domains won´t work anymore .... hahaha !!

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                                              • Brujah
                                                Beer Money Baron
                                                • Jan 2001
                                                • 22157

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by funkmaster


                                                ... I never said expired domains won´t work anymore .... hahaha !!
                                                did anyone say you did ?

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                                                • Dildozer
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Jul 2002
                                                  • 7519

                                                  #25
                                                  I believe the dropped penalty applies to websites picked in february and later, also i don't think they tag all of them, but they sure tagged mine
                                                  Spam link here

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                                                  • Mr Pheer
                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                    • Dec 2002
                                                    • 22082

                                                    #26
                                                    I was literaly making millions until google came on the scene and took over

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                                                    • Mr Pheer
                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                      • Dec 2002
                                                      • 22082

                                                      #27
                                                      Forbidden
                                                      You don't have permission to access /trial/index.cgi on this server.


                                                      --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

                                                      Apache/1.3.27 Server at www.fallendomains.com Port 80

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                                                      • Brujah
                                                        Beer Money Baron
                                                        • Jan 2001
                                                        • 22157

                                                        #28
                                                        Google is evil.

                                                        They want the internet under their control. They want to dictate who you can link to, and who you can't. Instead of overlooking hidden text, links, etc.. they want to punish you brutally. You must be perfect little webtoddlers and obey the google komissar.

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                                                        • DarkJedi
                                                          No Refunds Issued.
                                                          • Feb 2001
                                                          • 28301

                                                          #29
                                                          Anyway, PR isn't all that.
                                                          I have a PR5 site and this dude has PR6 site. I'm still ranking 2 positions higher than he does.

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                                                          • nuclei
                                                            old school fart
                                                            • May 2001
                                                            • 1015

                                                            #30
                                                            The site doesnt even use CGI anymore. Shaun musta goofed and left an old link up. Where was that spunks?
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                                                            • nuclei
                                                              old school fart
                                                              • May 2001
                                                              • 1015

                                                              #31
                                                              fixed mrpheer have fun!
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                                                              • nuclei
                                                                old school fart
                                                                • May 2001
                                                                • 1015

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by DarkJedi
                                                                Anyway, PR isn't all that.
                                                                I have a PR5 site and this dude has PR6 site. I'm still ranking 2 positions higher than he does.

                                                                PR can be "all that" IF you take the time to also optimize your website. If you do not then no, you wont list as high no matter what.
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                                                                • lawked
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Apr 2003
                                                                  • 354

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Dildozer
                                                                  I believe the dropped penalty applies to websites picked in february and later, also i don't think they tag all of them, but they sure tagged mine
                                                                  Believe what you want, say what you want. You were unfortunate.. I'm telling you man, the domains I bought
                                                                  from last year on thru this year are keeping their PR.

                                                                  Maybe google is attacking them, who knows.. the benefits
                                                                  outweigh the penalties.



                                                                  Let google waste some of their resources on expireds... I want Yahoo to smoke them.

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                                                                  • lawked
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Apr 2003
                                                                    • 354

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by DarkJedi
                                                                    Anyway, PR isn't all that.
                                                                    I have a PR5 site and this dude has PR6 site. I'm still ranking 2 positions higher than he does.
                                                                    You and GoogleGuy are buddies eh? j/k

                                                                    If PR is shit, why are people talking about MiniNet's and
                                                                    building up PR?

                                                                    Who knows.. unless we work for Google nobody
                                                                    really knows.

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                                                                    • XM
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Jan 2001
                                                                      • 406

                                                                      #35
                                                                      cuentosyrelatos.com - PR 7
                                                                      acousticguitarfestival.com - PR 7
                                                                      chemsafety.com - PR 7 (altho unused/wasted)
                                                                      chemsafety.net - PR 7
                                                                      fightaboutmoney.com - PR 7 (unused)


                                                                      All these domains have been registered as late as in March 2003 and their PR will be zeroed in the next update simply by checking their Creation Date. Google absolutely doesn't need to follow all expired domains, just comparing data of those he has in index once in a while is enough.
                                                                      Can you show us Brujah some domain registered in January at the latest and still having it's PR ?

                                                                      XM

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                                                                      • 3Xguru
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Sep 2001
                                                                        • 1281

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Ahhhh Google talk... I love it
                                                                        -=Free Webmaster Tools=-

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                                                                        • sacX
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Dec 2002
                                                                          • 2998

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Amber law anyone?
                                                                          Have Asian Language Traffic?

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                                                                          • stocktrader23
                                                                            Let's do some business.
                                                                            • Jan 2003
                                                                            • 18781

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by XM
                                                                            cuentosyrelatos.com - PR 7
                                                                            acousticguitarfestival.com - PR 7
                                                                            chemsafety.com - PR 7 (altho unused/wasted)
                                                                            chemsafety.net - PR 7
                                                                            fightaboutmoney.com - PR 7 (unused)


                                                                            All these domains have been registered as late as in March 2003 and their PR will be zeroed in the next update simply by checking their Creation Date. Google absolutely doesn't need to follow all expired domains, just comparing data of those he has in index once in a while is enough.
                                                                            Can you show us Brujah some domain registered in January at the latest and still having it's PR ?

                                                                            XM
                                                                            If I buy a domain the day it dropped, how will google know it wasn't sold to me by the original owner? My domains kept PR. Thank you, come again.

                                                                            I just checked one.

                                                                            Registered: 1/17/2003
                                                                            Expires: 1/17/2004

                                                                            It has PR with 0 links coming from me.


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                                                                            • nuclei
                                                                              old school fart
                                                                              • May 2001
                                                                              • 1015

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by XM
                                                                              cuentosyrelatos.com - PR 7
                                                                              acousticguitarfestival.com - PR 7
                                                                              chemsafety.com - PR 7 (altho unused/wasted)
                                                                              chemsafety.net - PR 7
                                                                              fightaboutmoney.com - PR 7 (unused)


                                                                              All these domains have been registered as late as in March 2003 and their PR will be zeroed in the next update simply by checking their Creation Date. Google absolutely doesn't need to follow all expired domains, just comparing data of those he has in index once in a while is enough.
                                                                              Can you show us Brujah some domain registered in January at the latest and still having it's PR ?

                                                                              XM
                                                                              downloadworx.com registered february. PR 3
                                                                              granted, not great, but its still there.
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                                                                              • lawked
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Apr 2003
                                                                                • 354

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by stocktrader23


                                                                                If I buy a domain the day it dropped, how will google know it wasn't sold to me by the original owner? My domains kept PR. Thank you, come again.

                                                                                I just checked one.

                                                                                Registered: 1/17/2003
                                                                                Expires: 1/17/2004

                                                                                It has PR with 0 links coming from me.
                                                                                Let people think that PR'd domains are dead.. Just silently
                                                                                buy them. Cough, googleguy was right... don't buy expired
                                                                                domains for PR.

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                                                                                • Brujah
                                                                                  Beer Money Baron
                                                                                  • Jan 2001
                                                                                  • 22157

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by XM
                                                                                  cuentosyrelatos.com - PR 7
                                                                                  acousticguitarfestival.com - PR 7
                                                                                  chemsafety.com - PR 7 (altho unused/wasted)
                                                                                  chemsafety.net - PR 7
                                                                                  fightaboutmoney.com - PR 7 (unused)


                                                                                  All these domains have been registered as late as in March 2003 and their PR will be zeroed in the next update simply by checking their Creation Date. Google absolutely doesn't need to follow all expired domains, just comparing data of those he has in index once in a while is enough.
                                                                                  Can you show us Brujah some domain registered in January at the latest and still having it's PR ?

                                                                                  XM
                                                                                  We'll see. I'm not implying that it can't happen at all, just that it didn't happen to this December batch that had been down for as long as 3 months, then re-registered and still hold very high PR.

                                                                                  I have names registered back around that time that still have good PR also.

                                                                                  So from these few observations so far:
                                                                                  Not in zone Dec 2002 - No PR loss.
                                                                                  Registered in Jun 2002 - No PR loss.
                                                                                  Registered in Dec 2002 - No PR loss.
                                                                                  Registered in Mar 2003 - No PR loss.

                                                                                  If you want access to the lists on the rare occasions that I post them, you'll have to be a member for that

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                                                                                  • XM
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Jan 2001
                                                                                    • 406

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    OK guys keep on buying them
                                                                                    XM

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                                                                                    • sacX
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Dec 2002
                                                                                      • 2998

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      I don't want to blaspheme but.. u know something. PR isn't everything when it comes to google
                                                                                      Have Asian Language Traffic?

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                                                                                      • stocktrader23
                                                                                        Let's do some business.
                                                                                        • Jan 2003
                                                                                        • 18781

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by Brujah


                                                                                        We'll see. I'm not implying that it can't happen at all, just that it didn't happen to this December batch that had been down for as long as 3 months, then re-registered and still hold very high PR.

                                                                                        I have names registered back around that time that still have good PR also.

                                                                                        So from these few observations so far:
                                                                                        Not in zone Dec 2002 - No PR loss.
                                                                                        Registered in Jun 2002 - No PR loss.
                                                                                        Registered in Dec 2002 - No PR loss.
                                                                                        Registered in Mar 2003 - No PR loss.

                                                                                        If you want access to the lists on the rare occasions that I post them, you'll have to be a member for that
                                                                                        You list the domains with PR that you don't register on your site from time to time?


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                                                                                        • nuclei
                                                                                          old school fart
                                                                                          • May 2001
                                                                                          • 1015

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by sacX
                                                                                          I don't want to blaspheme but.. u know something. PR isn't everything when it comes to google

                                                                                          This was already mentioned above and answered :P
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                                                                                          • lawked
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Apr 2003
                                                                                            • 354

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by XM
                                                                                            OK guys keep on buying them
                                                                                            XM
                                                                                            Yes Sir!

                                                                                            Squad, attention.

                                                                                            Blue 42, blue 42, hut hut..

                                                                                            When you email for a link cause the domain has high PR.. won't
                                                                                            be a problem, I'll add you ;)

                                                                                            GoogleGuy

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                                                                                            • Brujah
                                                                                              Beer Money Baron
                                                                                              • Jan 2001
                                                                                              • 22157

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by XM
                                                                                              OK guys keep on buying them
                                                                                              XM
                                                                                              Just to clarify, there are numerous other reasons to buy expired domains. PR is not the only reason, nor the best reason.

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                                                                                              • nuclei
                                                                                                old school fart
                                                                                                • May 2001
                                                                                                • 1015

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by Brujah


                                                                                                Just to clarify, there are numerous other reasons to buy expired domains. PR is not the only reason, nor the best reason.
                                                                                                agreed

                                                                                                but some people cant think beyond the box
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                                                                                                • Brujah
                                                                                                  Beer Money Baron
                                                                                                  • Jan 2001
                                                                                                  • 22157

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by stocktrader23


                                                                                                  You list the domains with PR that you don't register on your site from time to time?
                                                                                                  Yes.

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                                                                                                  • Sloane
                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                    • Feb 2001
                                                                                                    • 815

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    95% of my drops have lost PR, trying to find a pattern with the remainding 5% as to why they survived.

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