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and what do these girls get paid according to your information?


lotta people pass around bad information about talent fees

here they are as of today in L.A. for

boy/girl hardcore video $800-1000 depending on girl and agency

anal add $300

guys $200-700 average is $300-400 for a quality studd

and if somebody is telling your any different they are shooting girls who've been around for a year or more and work has dried up for them.


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add on $100 agents fee for the girl

Sorry to go off topic, but your post made me think, Mutt. Can I ask you opinion?

It seems like there are two paths that a porn starlette can go.
One is grow in popularity and exposure. Become more marketable and desirable. Jenna Jameson is the poster girl. This is as rare as winning the lottery.

Far more common is that the more exposed they are, they less they get paid. After a year or two, if they are not on the ?star? path, then they have used up their 'fresh face' marketability. They then have to do more extreme scenes to make the same money.

(But both paths increase the money they can make feature dancing.)

Is that accurate? Are there other things I'm overlooking?

(I'm not involved with content production...yet...just fascinated)

True, prices and quality of girls and how long they have been in the biz has a lot to do with it, and prices change around the country and price of studs or stunk cocks changes the end price a lot too

BUMP

I'm no expert but I do talk to lots of people who are.

Majority of girls who come into porn are not looking to be the next Jenna Jameson or to raise their feature dancing profile or create one. Most are in it for the money and some the money and the thrills. Gonzo movies, the type RedlightDistrict, Anabolic, the web reality sites, that's where the action is these days - new girls can work a TON doing gonzo - but to keep working consistently in gonzo a girl has to do anal, once everybody's had their crack at her as 'new girl' material, then she has to do anal, after everybody's got their first anal on her - she's got to do DP .... and so on. If she won't do the more extreme stuff she's not going to work much and she'll be taking jobs for less money.

The other route is working for the 'feature' companies like VIVID and Wicked. Not as much work and money for girls going that route. Even a girl who becomes a contract pornstar won't make nearly as much money as a young chick who is willing to do anything for all he gonzo companies. But eventually the gonzo companies have done all they can do with a girl and by that time her rectum is hanging out of her ass ......... this is when the gonzo star retires from gonzo and becomes a contract girl *see Mirage/Brianna Banks, Aurora Snow etc*

This seems to be the new route for girls, make lots of money being really nasty for gonzo, become a 'name', then settle into working in features, hopefully as a contract girl. Contract girls only shoot a handful of movies a year - they don't get paid as much as people think but they do get other things such as feature dancing.

If a girl goes too extreme I think it hurts her chances of becoming a big contract star for VIVID, Digital Playground, Wicked. Taylor Rain should be a big contract girl now - she's famous now from the amazing amount of gonzo work she's done and she's girl next door pretty. She signed with Legend Video, Legend isn't on the same level as VIVID, DP and Wicked. My guess is that those companies passed on Taylor because she doesn't fit their image.

Also there's the controversial topic of interracial - girls who are after contracts and feature dancing careers are told that doing interracial will hurt their chances. There are lots of big stripclubs down South that won't book feature dancer/pornstars that have done black guys - the good old boys will not come out to see her.

Overexposure is great for the girls who are in it just to make as much money for themselves or their suitcase pimps, it means they are working a lot. For girls who have their sights on being the next Jenna or Jill Kelly overexposure isn't good. Look at Jenna Haze, she did gonzo just long enough to get well known, then 'retired' to become a contract girl with Jill Kelly, and isn't even doing boy/girl.

Hey Matt, you have mail

I can help I'll send you an icq in a few mins

Hey are the southern white guys afraid that once a girl has a big black dick she won't go back to some 4inch white dick

Mutt, as always - you are very well written & informed. I coudn't have said it better myself.

that's probably a small part of it but it's mostly still just old fashioned bigotry. Howard Stern has asked the question to lots of pornstarlets, they usually hem and haw and then say that racism has nothing to do with the reason they don't do black guys - the usual copout answer 'well it's just never come up'. That's bs, if you look at any porn talent agency site there's a category beside the girls' names, one is "IR" for interracial, there's no category for white guys, Asian guys, Mexican guys etc. I don't think a girl has to work with anybody she doesn't want to but when you think of it, the porn industry is a workplace. There are lots of girls who won't do interracial, they'll work with almost any guy a producer throws at them, old guy, ugly guy, hairy guy, huge dick, small dick, Jew, Latino, druggie guy, - but a black guy - nope. Would make a very fascinating legal case if a male black pornstar sued or filed a human rights complaint against a porn actress who wouldn't work with him. I think he might win.

Interesting...

Well said Mutt, but you missed one thing. The "STAR" quality of the girl. A girl like Zdenka or Jenna Jameson shine from day one and they are snapped up by the big shooters and studios. Unfortunately few girls have it and some that do have an attitude to go with it.

We do exclusive custom solo, two girl and hard core. On prices x quality we can compete with anyone.

Will ICQ you.

Just sent u email and ICQ message,looking forward to talk with u soon

well you've given me lots of my info, and you and the other guys i talk to are on the frontline of the porn wars, so I've become pretty well informed on what makes the L.A. porn industry go round and round. it's a circus.

well somebody doesn't think i'm that well informed. just got this in my email.

::********** bullshit dan, you really don't have a clue::



he's one cranky photographer!

Hi Matt,

Prices can really vary. I'm well conected with allot of industry girls. I've known some girls that actually work on a trade for content
which brings the price way down. I just sent you an icq...

Thanks,

Vcity

Oops. My bad. I meant to send that to POV.

Whatever.

check your ICQ from Nydahl

i haven't got any ICQ messages from you Vcity?

some girls will do barter trade for content - but not when another site is involved. girls have got burned on deals like that where they thought they were doing a barter trade with photographers for the photographers own site then the photog takes the content and sells it to a third party or many third parties.