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  • kmanrox
    aka K-Man
    • Oct 2001
    • 29295
    #1

    Pre-Pay a NEW Designer? S.O.P.?

    i have a designer with an impressive portfolio that i want to do some work for me, he is new to the adult biz, so he doesnt know who I am, I even took the time to give him references of the top guys in the biz and he tells me he can't do it unless I pre-pay....

    Am I crazy for thinking he's crazy? He's a newb who nobody knows, and I'm supposed to prepay him? It's only a $225 job, but hey....
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    • Brujah
      Beer Money Baron
      • Jan 2001
      • 22157
      #2
      If he's really good, for $225.. take the chance.

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            • kmanrox
              aka K-Man
              • Oct 2001
              • 29295
              #4
              hmm, i've worked with Quashe, Hungryman, dg-designs, marian@madthumbs, freelancers, and i have never been asked for prepayment.... i am offended.... am i wrong to be offended?
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                • znoz
                  Confirmed User
                  • Jul 2001
                  • 133
                  #5
                  do a 50/50 or demand to see alittle progress to make sure he really is a designer instead of some shithead using others sites in his folio.

                  - Anders

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                    • Ludedude
                      Suck it!
                      • Jun 2001
                      • 4432
                      #6
                      Prepay 100%? No. I'd offer to pay half and then the other half on delivery of a final approved product.

                      Don't be offended; he doesn't know you, you don't know him, why should either one of you feel you're taking a risk? Give him a deposit on the work and you'll both feel better.

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                        • znoz
                          Confirmed User
                          • Jul 2001
                          • 133
                          #7
                          I think your wrong to be offended, i usally take cash upfront, at my first go on design 3 years ago i got fucked over 5 times or something in a week (was building my folio).

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                            • Cindyff
                              Confirmed User
                              • Sep 2002
                              • 1187
                              #8
                              I agree 50% upfront sound right if they dont like it try someone else
                              Cindy xx

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                                • SothArtist
                                  Registered User
                                  • Oct 2002
                                  • 366
                                  #9
                                  I would go with someone else. He is just taking liberties. He can set it up so you can view the final product but not get it till payment. Where as you have no real come back if you pay him up front and he doesn't deliver.

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                                    • Kristoffer
                                      So Fucking Banned
                                      • Apr 2003
                                      • 140
                                      #10
                                      I would demand the customer to prepeay no matter who he is

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                                        • lEricPl
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Dec 2002
                                          • 1062
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by SothArtist
                                          I would go with someone else. He is just taking liberties. He can set it up so you can view the final product but not get it till payment. Where as you have no real come back if you pay him up front and he doesn't deliver.
                                          So he wastes his time with no guarantee of payment?

                                          Bullshit.

                                          Give him 50%

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                                            • kmanrox
                                              aka K-Man
                                              • Oct 2001
                                              • 29295
                                              #12
                                              i just took the 50/50 advise and made the deal, thx... Quashe is busy on frontends so i needed a backup to do members areas.... thx for the advice... time to get hammered and put on my Jesus PostBot v6.9
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                                                • Pete
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Jan 2001
                                                  • 6617
                                                  #13
                                                  Fuckem, dont prepay anything. When the job is done to your specs, hand him the cash.
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                                                    • 12clicks
                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                      • Jan 2001
                                                      • 19816
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by kmanrox
                                                      hmm, i've worked with Quashe, Hungryman, dg-designs, marian@madthumbs, freelancers, and i have never been asked for prepayment.... i am offended.... am i wrong to be offended?
                                                      dude, you're a malaysian tool. why would you be offended?
                                                      I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                        • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
                                                          best designer on GFY
                                                          • Mar 2003
                                                          • 30307
                                                          #15
                                                          Hustle em till he does for free like all the other designers...

                                                          Sheezuz whats the matter with you guys?

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                                                            • kmanrox
                                                              aka K-Man
                                                              • Oct 2001
                                                              • 29295
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by 12clicks


                                                              dude, you're a malaysian tool. why would you be offended?
                                                              ive been doing this for too many years to have my credibility questioned, perhaps it's just a big ego, i just cant stand newbs who think they're special...
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                                                                • 12clicks
                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                  • Jan 2001
                                                                  • 19816
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by kmanrox


                                                                  ive been doing this for too many years to have my credibility questioned, perhaps it's just a big ego, i just cant stand newbs who think they're special...
                                                                  hire someone else. then he won't be a newb, he'll be gone.
                                                                  I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                    • kmanrox
                                                                      aka K-Man
                                                                      • Oct 2001
                                                                      • 29295
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by 12clicks
                                                                      hire someone else. then he won't be a newb, he'll be gone.
                                                                      will you make me a members area in MSPaint pls?
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                                                                        • SothArtist
                                                                          Registered User
                                                                          • Oct 2002
                                                                          • 366
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by lEricPl


                                                                          So he wastes his time with no guarantee of payment?

                                                                          Bullshit.

                                                                          Give him 50%
                                                                          Did I say not to do 50/50? I don't think so

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                                                                            • znoz
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Jul 2001
                                                                              • 133
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by kmanrox


                                                                              will you make me a members area in MSPaint pls?
                                                                              I can make you a members area in photoshop if that will do.. i'll even let you pay me after its done - since its YOU ;)

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                                                                                • 12clicks
                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                  • Jan 2001
                                                                                  • 19816
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by kmanrox


                                                                                  will you make me a members area in MSPaint pls?
                                                                                  Dude, I use MScrayon but if you want I can
                                                                                  I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                                    • SGS
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Dec 2002
                                                                                      • 5176
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      If its a guy calling himself Ironhorse he will put together a nice little "client page" for you:

                                                                                      http://www.sexymojo.com/design/clien...rs/index.shtml

                                                                                      but he will still fuck off into the distance with your money 50%/100% upfront whatever...
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                                                                                        • Ludedude
                                                                                          Suck it!
                                                                                          • Jun 2001
                                                                                          • 4432
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Here you go Kman...no charge since you're so special ;)

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                                                                                            • TheViper
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Mar 2003
                                                                                              • 2560
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              I would ask for a down payment kmanrox

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                                                                                                • kmanrox
                                                                                                  aka K-Man
                                                                                                  • Oct 2001
                                                                                                  • 29295
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by TheViper
                                                                                                  I would ask for a down payment kmanrox
                                                                                                  go away, you're the devil

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                                                                                                    • TheViper
                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                      • Mar 2003
                                                                                                      • 2560
                                                                                                      #26

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                                                                                                        • kmanrox
                                                                                                          aka K-Man
                                                                                                          • Oct 2001
                                                                                                          • 29295
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by Ludedude
                                                                                                          Here you go Kman...no charge since you're so special ;)

                                                                                                          http://www.iveseenbigger.com/mspaintporn/index2.html
                                                                                                          LoL!!

                                                                                                          i wonder if that'd sell
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                                                                                                            • Fletch XXX
                                                                                                              GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!!
                                                                                                              • Jan 2002
                                                                                                              • 60840
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              if youre the one asking him for work hes the one callin the shots. Youre looking at his work, and chose him, just pay the guy. You came to HIM for work based on his TALENT, if you value that talent, just pay the guy.

                                                                                                              i know when i schedule, its 'who is paying that comes first.'

                                                                                                              sounds fair, you already said he doesnt know who YOU are.

                                                                                                              Why is he supposed to take a chance?

                                                                                                              Id say he's playing the game smart. Give him a break, he doesnt know you or your rep, or the people you sent him to, think about it, you sent him to a bunch of adult references, that doesnt mean shit to him, he doesnt have any idea who or what they are worth.

                                                                                                              id say just give the guy 50% man..




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                                                                                                                • Darren
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                                                                                                                  • Sep 2001
                                                                                                                  • 5994
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  50 / 50 is normal covers both of ya, surely u know that ?


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                                                                                                                    • Ironhorse
                                                                                                                      Pixel Pusher
                                                                                                                      • Nov 2002
                                                                                                                      • 7094
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by SGS
                                                                                                                      If its a guy calling himself Ironhorse he will put together a nice little "client page" for you:

                                                                                                                      http://www.sexymojo.com/design/clien...rs/index.shtml

                                                                                                                      but he will still fuck off into the distance with your money 50%/100% upfront whatever...
                                                                                                                      In an attempt to clear my name, I have posted a full explanation for my dissappearance in this thread: http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=131136

                                                                                                                      I am currently working things out with the involved parties/clients. It was never my intent to 'run away' with their deposits or leave the work incomplete.
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                                                                                                                        • harvey
                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                          • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                          • 9266
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          it's a common usage in non-adult design to charge 50/50 or 33/33/33 (pre-on sight-on delivery), and really good designers usually ask 100% upfront. Anyway, I don't see where's the problem since you can chargeback what you paid. I'm sure there's not a single designer here that didn't get screwed doing jobs and not being paid. So the only one taking risks here is the designer, therefore, what's the problem in paying upfront, specially for something that you know is good? Is not like you won't pay for it, and I don't know what work do you need, but for 225 bucks... man, when I need something well done, I don't even blink to invest such a little amount, leave it for crappy designers asking thousands of dollars!
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                                                                                                                            • NBDesign
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                                                                                                                              • Jan 2003
                                                                                                                              • 5814
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              I never take a new client with out 50% down. I do not care who you are. I have had a Chamber of commerce rip me off and someone I thought I was a friend. Unless we have done business in the past... forget it.

                                                                                                                              I would rather not have the job rather than do all the work and not get paid.

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                                                                                                                                • NBDesign
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                                                                                                                                  • Jan 2003
                                                                                                                                  • 5814
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by harvey
                                                                                                                                  I don't see where's the problem since you can chargeback what you paid.
                                                                                                                                  Not here... Comapny check or money order from new clients only!

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                                                                                                                                    • MCsteve-matrix
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                                                                                                                                      • Jan 2003
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                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      50% upfront guarantees I start work the other 50% upon completion guarantees i finish.
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                                                                                                                                        • TheViper
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                                                                                                                                          • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                                          • 2560
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          everything worked out well eh kman

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                                                                                                                                            • NBDesign
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                                                                                                                                              • Jan 2003
                                                                                                                                              • 5814
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by MCsteve-matrix
                                                                                                                                              50% upfront guarantees I start work the other 50% upon completion guarantees i finish.
                                                                                                                                              This is a better way to put it... thank you!

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