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05-04-2003, 07:28 PM

Originally posted by Boneprone
Sobe, just give the docs man even if you think it does not comply with the law Aaron has stated. Even if you think it is not law, think of it as Family law for the family. Just do it bro.

It seems Sobe has no respect for Family Law since he is STILL refusing to provide the docs. Is Sobe really the kind of person you want in your family? His word means NOTHING!
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05-04-2003, 07:36 PM

you should be bitchslapped

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05-04-2003, 07:37 PM

Originally posted by toodamnfli
you should be bitchslapped

Changed your opinion overnight huh?

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05-04-2003, 07:38 PM

Originally posted by Groove

It seems Sobe has no respect for Family Law since he is STILL refusing to provide the docs. Is Sobe really the kind of person you want in your family? His word means NOTHING!

wait, didnt you ask for a refund instead?
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05-04-2003, 07:39 PM

of course not..i thought you wanted your money back? Starting a new thread in order to try to 'define' what you deem are the Family's rules is simply out of line. The Family deals with it's buisness internally and I know for a fact everything will be handled in great faith

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05-04-2003, 07:41 PM

Originally posted by BigFrog
wait, didnt you ask for a refund instead?

Groove 2003-05- 1:49 AM I downloaded the sample sets and they look
good. Boneprone says you'll provide model
releases and photo IDs at no charge. Is that
correct? If so, I'd like to proceed with the
purchase of 80 sets. I'm still pretty
pissed-off that you didn't honor your
commitments without the need for this drama.
But this really is a great deal, so I guess
I'd be a fool to pass up on it. We must talk
when we're next both on ICQ. Let's put this
shit behind us

Erik 2003-05- 4:26 AM You there?

Erik 2003-05- 4:42 AM Groove, this is what I am willing to do. The
ten sets you bought from me I will provide you
the docs for. The other 80 you wnat I will not
proved all the docs for. If still want to buy
the other 80 at 5 dollars each, and see some
girls only a few, that you want docs for I
will send them to you but I will not send all
80. Let me know what you would like to do...
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05-04-2003, 07:41 PM

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05-04-2003, 07:44 PM

if he is willing to give you the docs for your original order....then he has followed through....
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05-04-2003, 07:44 PM

Originally posted by toodamnfli
of course not..i thought you wanted your money back? Starting a new thread in order to try to 'define' what you deem are the Family's rules is simply out of line. The Family deals with it's buisness internally and I know for a fact everything will be handled in great faith

All I want is for Sobe to honor his original agreement. The only reason this is being debated on GFY is that every time I think I have an agreement with this guy he renegs.
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05-04-2003, 07:46 PM

Originally posted by Groove

All I want is for Sobe to honor his original agreement. The only reason this is being debated on GFY is that every time I think I have an agreement with this guy he renegs.

ok, as im reading the conversation this is obviously after the whole fiasco where you demanded your money back and called him a cheater and scumbang...yet you still want to do buisness with him?

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05-04-2003, 07:46 PM

Originally posted by BigFrog
if he is willing to give you the docs for your original order....then he has followed through....

The 10 sets were samples to check the quality. I was always intending to purchase 80 sets and that was made clear to Sobe from the outset.
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05-04-2003, 07:46 PM

Forgive me if I'm wrong here. It's 5.30 AM and I can hardly keep my eyes open much longer. I read the other thread about this yesterday and also took a quick look at it now. And from what I remember you first wanted the docs, then later in the thread said you wanted a refund instead, and that was all you were interested in.
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Are you a total moron? I don't want to talk to you! I do not want to do business with you! How many times do I have to tell you? I want you to send me a refund via Paypal. Just send me my fucking refund you moron!

Originally posted by SoBeGirl Video
Groove I want to refund your money. Just contact me on ICQ and we will get it done.

Peace I am going to bed...

I know there was a bit back and forth in the original thread, but still. First you wanted the docs, then changed your mind and asked for a refund (which Sobe have agreed to give you) and today you're saying you want the docs again?!?

Not that this is any of my biz really. Just makes me wonder....
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05-04-2003, 07:49 PM

Originally posted by toodamnfli
ok, as im reading the conversation this is obviously after the whole fiasco where you demanded your money back and called him a cheater and scumbang...yet you still want to do buisness with him?

I assumed that since this was a BP4L endorsed promotion that if Boneprone said I would get the docs, then it was probably safe to assume that is what would happen. Did I assume wrong?
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05-04-2003, 07:53 PM

Originally posted by Groove

I assumed that since this was a BP4L endorsed promotion that if Boneprone said I would get the docs, then it was probably safe to assume that is what would happen. Did I assume wrong?

reread your entire thread and talk to me in the morning...

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05-04-2003, 08:06 PM

Originally posted by toodamnfli
of course not..i thought you wanted your money back? Starting a new thread in order to try to 'define' what you deem are the Family's rules is simply out of line. The Family deals with it's buisness internally and I know for a fact everything will be handled in great faith

None of my biz really I just find it amusing that the "Family" doesn't ever seem to present a unified front or opinion on anything from one day to the next. But then again like I said it's not really any of my biz so who cares what I think.

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05-04-2003, 08:12 PM

Wow, what happened here? I consulted with BoneProne and I thought that this was settled. What is that Groove wants, Groove must Decide what Groove wants. Groove knows only what Groove wants but Groove keeps changing his mind (assuming he even has one). How about this. Groove, you can keep the content for free. Use it to jerk off -OK. I will give you your money back and I demand, no I implore you to please not buy content from me ever again.

You have upset me and when I get upset the SoBeCat gets angry, and when the SoBeCat gets angrey People get scratched. Scratched really really bad. So please, just stay away from the url www.************
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05-04-2003, 08:15 PM

Originally posted by Pappa
I know there was a bit back and forth in the original thread, but still. First you wanted the docs, then changed your mind and asked for a refund (which Sobe have agreed to give you) and today you're saying you want the docs again?!?

All I ever wanted was for Sobe to sell me some sets + docs like we originally agreed. Yes it reached a point where it seemed clear that I wasn't going to receive the docs so I requested a refund. But after Boneprone said that I WOULD get the docs I stopped, calmed down a bit, and decided that if the docs were available it would be foolish not to follow through with the purchase. But apparently the deal has been taken off the table again.
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05-04-2003, 08:19 PM

Originally posted by SoBeGirl Video
Wow, what happened here? I consulted with BoneProne and I thought that this was settled.

I thought Boneprone told you to give me the docs?

Or am I missing something here?
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05-04-2003, 08:21 PM

Originally posted by SoBeGirl Video
You have upset me and when I get upset the SoBeCat gets angry, and when the SoBeCat gets angrey People get scratched. Scratched really really bad.

So you're threatening to hurt me?
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05-04-2003, 08:29 PM

Originally posted by Groove

I thought Boneprone told you to give me the docs?

Or am I missing something here?

You seriously need to make up your mind instead of being so fickle about things. Either you want the content or you don't. As far as I can see Sobe is giving you the docs requested. Adding out of the blue that you want to buy more AND have docs, ammending your first requrest is a little.. deceptive, is it not? And wouldn't this matter better be solved between yourself and Sobe, not you and Sobe and the entire known world.

And who are you to dictate BP4L law? I'm not family, but I sure know BS when I smell it, and in presuming to know what other people/organizations that you have no knowledge of/affiliation with have as rules/precepts, you are showing yourself to be rather.... unintelligent? Stop slinging shit, stop spreading it thin, and try actual negotiation?

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05-04-2003, 08:41 PM

Originally posted by Groove

I thought Boneprone told you to give me the docs?

Or am I missing something here?

boneprone told him to give you the docs...
bonprone told him to follow my suggestions...
I told him to give you the docs...
SobeGirl said he would do what boneprone told him to do...

WTF is the problem here, Sobe?

The intitially proposed deal was for 80 sets WITH docs for $5.00 per set.
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05-04-2003, 08:43 PM

Originally posted by LadyMischief
You seriously need to make up your mind instead of being so fickle about things. Either you want the content or you don't. As far as I can see Sobe is giving you the docs requested. Adding out of the blue that you want to buy more AND have docs, ammending your first requrest is a little.. deceptive, is it not?

Huh? The 10 sets were intended to be samples to check the quality prior to purchasing 80 sets. This was always the case and Sobe was aware of this fact from the outset.

And wouldn't this matter better be solved between yourself and Sobe, not you and Sobe and the entire known world.

Yes, it would be much better to resolve it in private. But Sobe refused to honor our agreement and I thought that a bit of public shaming might resolve the issue.

And who are you to dictate BP4L law? I'm not family, but I sure know BS when I smell it, and in presuming to know what other people/organizations that you have no knowledge of/affiliation with have as rules/precepts, you are showing yourself to be rather.... unintelligent?

I am not dictating BP4L law. Boneprone is:

Originally posted by Boneprone

Sobe, just give the docs man even if you think it does not comply with the law Aaron has stated. Even if you think it is not law, think of it as Family law for the family. Just do it bro.

What part of this law did I misunderstand?

Stop slinging shit, stop spreading it thin, and try actual negotiation?

My two cents.

Have you ever tried negotiating with Sobe? Every time you arrive at an agreement he renegs.
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05-04-2003, 08:53 PM

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05-04-2003, 08:55 PM

Originally posted by boneprone
defying BP Family Law is punishable by death.

Will there be a trial or can we skip straight to the execution?
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05-04-2003, 08:55 PM

Originally posted by Groove

Have you ever tried negotiating with Sobe? Every time you arrive at an agreement he renegs.

I negotiate with Sobe all the time. He does what I say, right Sobe?

Edit: Sobe, get your fucking ass in gear and give up the docs, just to make the hurting in my brain stop.

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05-04-2003, 08:57 PM

Originally posted by Groove

All I ever wanted was for Sobe to sell me some sets + docs like we originally agreed. Yes it reached a point where it seemed clear that I wasn't going to receive the docs so I requested a refund. But after Boneprone said that I WOULD get the docs I stopped, calmed down a bit, and decided that if the docs were available it would be foolish not to follow through with the purchase. But apparently the deal has been taken off the table again.

I know what you initially wanted from the deal, but this is getting a bit out of hand realy. As I said in my last post;
you first wanted the docs as you were prommised. Sobe refused to give them out even if he had been foolish enough to say you would get them (and I can understand his reasons for not providing those docs also)

He "consulted" with Boneprone and then agreed to honour the deal and give you the docks after all. But by that time you had already demanded a refund from him and refused to talk to him on ICQ as he asked. He later in the same thread agreed to give you a refund and today you start a new thread and want the deal to go through as it initially was agreed......

Now you named your previous thread "Is SoBeGirl a man of his word?" And although there was a bit back and forth I'll answer a big YES to that. As he said many times yeasterday he was trying his best to do what was right. Both in protecting his biz and your arangement. And he's proven that he's reasonable to deal with even if it wasn't as smooth as it might should have been.

Now after changing your mind once more I'm begining to wonder who here is not honouring his word. I can perfectly understand your sitiuation and why you want the deal to go forth as first agreed. It's a damn sweet offer he's given, but serriously.... This is just too much. Peace

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05-04-2003, 08:58 PM

Originally posted by SoBeGirl Video
So please, just stay away from the url www.************

Will do, thanks for the heads up.

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05-04-2003, 09:10 PM

Originally posted by AaronM

boneprone told him to give you the docs...
bonprone told him to follow my suggestions...
I told him to give you the docs...
SobeGirl said he would do what boneprone told him to do...

WTF is the problem here, Sobe?

The intitially proposed deal was for 80 sets WITH docs for $5.00 per set.

boneprone told him to give Groove the docs...
bonprone told him to follow your suggestions...
Sobe agreed to give the docks and offered them to Groove...
Grove refused and wanted a refund.......
Sobe agreed to give Groove his refund........
And now Groove have changed his mind once more, and you're (as you did yesterday) bashing Sobe?!!!?

WTF is the problem here, AaronM?

I don't know much about your "family" but I do know wrong from right and I'll tell you what: I'll stand by any family member or friend of mine. Always and forever.

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05-04-2003, 09:15 PM

Originally posted by Groove

It seems Sobe has no respect for Family Law since he is STILL refusing to provide the docs. Is Sobe really the kind of person you want in your family? His word means NOTHING!

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05-04-2003, 09:17 PM

Originally posted by SoBeGirl Video
Wow, what happened here? I consulted with BoneProne and I thought that this was settled. What is that Groove wants, Groove must Decide what Groove wants. Groove knows only what Groove wants but Groove keeps changing his mind (assuming he even has one). How about this. Groove, you can keep the content for free. Use it to jerk off -OK. I will give you your money back and I demand, no I implore you to please not buy content from me ever again.

You have upset me and when I get upset the SoBeCat gets angry, and when the SoBeCat gets angrey People get scratched. Scratched really really bad. So please, just stay away from the url www.************

Please hurry and give him his money back.

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05-04-2003, 09:17 PM

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05-04-2003, 09:19 PM

Originally posted by Pappa

boneprone told him to give Groove the docs...
bonprone told him to follow your suggestions...
Sobe agreed to give the docks and offered them to Groove...
Grove refused and wanted a refund.......
Sobe agreed to give Groove his refund........
And now Groove have changed his mind once more, and you're (as you did yesterday) bashing Sobe?!!!?

WTF is the problem here, AaronM?

I don't know much about your "family" but I do know wrong from right and I'll tell you what: I'll stand by any family member or friend of mine. Always and forever.

Look....If Sobe had done what he promised in the first place then none of this would be an issue. When Groove asked for a refund, Sobe did not process it. Sobe instead returned and said he would honor giving the docs. He has not refunded OR given docs per the initially proposal.

This is cut and dry. Give the guy what you said you would give him in the first place. It is called being a reputable businessman. If for some reason you are not able to provide what was initially agreed on, make it right...Make the customer as happy as you can make him.

This is about good business. Nothing else.
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05-04-2003, 09:22 PM

Originally posted by Pappa
Now after changing your mind once more I'm begining to wonder who here is not honouring his word.

1) I make a deal with Sobe to purchase sets + docs.
2) I send Sobe money for sample sets.
3) Sobe sends the sets but refuses to provide docs.
4) I ask for a refund (which I never get).
5) Boneprone tells Sobe to give me the docs.
6) The deal seems to be back on the table, so I tell
Sobe I'd like to complete the transaction.
7) Sobe again refuses to give me the docs.

At what part of this chronology am I not honoring my word?
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05-04-2003, 09:25 PM

Hey...Does anybody know where I can get cheap content?

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05-04-2003, 09:27 PM

Originally posted by Brujah

Sobe is BP4L !
Groove is BP4L !

Don't you wanna be BP4L too ?

I'm not BP4L...

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05-04-2003, 09:29 PM

Originally posted by AaronM
Hey...Does anybody know where I can get cheap content?

Wise man once say "You get what you pay for."

I thought BP4L endorsed sales were the exception
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05-04-2003, 09:41 PM

Originally posted by Groove

1) I make a deal with Sobe to purchase sets + docs.
2) I send Sobe money for sample sets.
3) Sobe sends the sets but refuses to provide docs.
4) I ask for a refund (which I never get).
5) Boneprone tells Sobe to give me the docs.
6) The deal seems to be back on the table, so I tell
Sobe I'd like to complete the transaction.
7) Sobe again refuses to give me the docs.

At what part of this chronology am I not honoring my word?

You started a thread to make hime give you the docs. You later in that thread say "fuck it" and demand an refund. By that time he agreed and offered you the docs, but no... you wanted your cash back. Fine he agrees to give you a refund and told you to contact him on ICQ to get it done. And today you don't want a refund anymore?!?!?! And you say HE doesn't honour his word? He's even offered you the refund in this thread too? Or did you miss that part? lol

Let me spell it out for you. Stop being an arse. Take your damn refund (that he's offered you) and move on. Easy as that. Why this new thread? Why have you once again changed your mind?

I'd deal with Sobe anyday after reading theese two threads. You on the other hand seem to have a less smooth aproach when it comes down to good business. Sobe has proven to be more than reasonable.

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05-04-2003, 09:41 PM

Originally posted by Groove

I thought BP4L endorsed sales were the exception

The opinions expressed by the "godfather" of the family is not necessarily the same opinions shared by other members of the family.

I will say this in Sobe's defense....They have been selling content for 3 years or so and this is the first complaint I have ever heard. Mistakes do happen. What is important is how those mistakes are taken care of.
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05-04-2003, 09:41 PM

Originally posted by boneprone
defying BP Family Law is punishable by death.

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05-04-2003, 09:49 PM

Originally posted by Pappa
You started a thread to make hime give you the docs. You later in that thread say "fuck it" and demand an refund. By that time he agreed and offered you the docs, but no... you wanted your cash back. Fine he agrees to give you a refund and told you to contact him on ICQ to get it done. And today you don't want a refund anymore?!?!?! And you say HE doesn't honour his word? He's even offered you the refund in this thread too? Or did you miss that part? lol

I asked for a refund BEFORE Boneprone said that docs would be available. After the original deal was apparently put back on the table, and after I'd had a chance to calm down and think about it, I decided to accept that offer. But again Sobe refuses to give me the docs. And you somehow twist that around so that I'm the one who's not honoring their word?
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05-04-2003, 10:01 PM

Originally posted by Pappa
Let me spell it out for you. Stop being an arse. Take your damn refund (that he's offered you) and move on. Easy as that.

While Sobe was posting to this thread (ie I know that he was online) I sent him an ICQ saying that if he was not going to honor our agreement he should at least send my a refund by Paypal. He did not reply. Talk is cheap my friend. I will judge Sobe by his actions and his actions prove that he is not a man of his word.
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05-04-2003, 10:02 PM

Originally posted by Groove

I asked for a refund BEFORE Boneprone said that docs would be available. After the original deal was apparently put back on the table, and after I'd had a chance to calm down and think about it, I decided to accept that offer. But again Sobe refuses to give me the docs. And you somehow twist that around so that I'm the one who's not honoring their word?

well, to me ur doing some twisting too. according to your post sobe has agreed to give you the docs for the sets you paid for....but you keep saying he refuses to give you the docs....but you are talking about sets you havent even ordered yet. dont order them....take the 10 you got with docs and be happy.
at least that is how i see it.
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05-04-2003, 10:07 PM

Originally posted by Groove

While Sobe was posting to this thread (ie I know that he was online) I sent him an ICQ saying that if he was not going to honor our agreement he should at least send my a refund by Paypal. He did not reply. Talk is cheap my friend. I will judge Sobe by his actions and his actions prove that he is not a man of his word.

jesus dude....pick an option and stay with it.
i'd say ur not a man of ur word either....you change your mind consistently from one hour to the next. if i were sobe i'd give you the docs for what you ordered and refuse to do business with you anymore.
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#45

05-04-2003, 10:10 PM

Originally posted by BigFrog
jesus dude....pick an option and stay with it.
i'd say ur not a man of ur word either....you change your mind consistently from one hour to the next. if i were sobe i'd give you the docs for what you ordered and refuse to do business with you anymore.

I want him to honor our deal. If he is not prepared to do that I want a refund. So far he has given me neither. How fucking complicated is that?
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#46

05-04-2003, 10:16 PM

Originally posted by Groove

I asked for a refund BEFORE Boneprone said that docs would be available. After the original deal was apparently put back on the table, and after I'd had a chance to calm down and think about it, I decided to accept that offer. But again Sobe refuses to give me the docs. And you somehow twist that around so that I'm the one who's not honoring their word?

In case I have missed something here, let me ask you this;
Have you contacted Sobe today and talked with him on ICQ asking for the refund he agreed to give you yeaterday? And when talking to him on ICQ, did he then refuse to give you your money back? Yes or no

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#47

05-04-2003, 10:20 PM

Originally posted by Pappa
In case I have missed something here, let me ask you this;
Have you contacted Sobe today and talked with him on ICQ asking for the refund he agreed to give you yeaterday? And when talking to him on ICQ, did he then refuse to give you your money back? Yes or no

I contacted him via ICQ while he was posting to this thread and he ignored my message.
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05-04-2003, 10:35 PM

*dice's girls voice* Sobe.. Sobee.. Sobeeee...
why won't you give me the docs.. why won't you take me anywhere... why won't you cuddle.. hold me..

we don't communicate.. TALK -- TO -- ME ...

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#49

05-04-2003, 10:36 PM

Originally posted by Groove

I contacted him via ICQ while he was posting to this thread and he ignored my message.

Mybe he was busy paypaling you your cash and needed to stay focused.

I can pefectly understand why he don't feel like talking to you though, after all this.
Now if you on the other hand don't get your money back I'd say you have something to be upset about, and that would indeed make him look bad.

But not going through with the original agreement between you after all the back and forth on your part is just right imo. Let's not forget the fact that you did terminate that deal yourself when demanding that refund in your previous thread.

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05-04-2003, 10:46 PM

Originally posted by Pappa
But not going through with the original agreement between you after all the back and forth on your part is just right imo. Let's not forget the fact that you did terminate that deal yourself when demanding that refund in your previous thread.

If Sobe had sent the refund when I first asked for it, this would all be over by now. But he didn't. The deal was later put back on the table (ie. Boneprone told him to give me the docs and Sobe *AGREED* to this arrangement!). Now when I try to proceed with this offer of sets + docs v2.0, he again refuses to provide docs. And when I try to contact him via ICQ offering to accept a refund he ignores me. Would you be happy with this scenario if you were in my shoes?
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