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  • Nina
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    • Mar 2002
    • 2687
    #1

    I'm not sure I understand something about spam...

    what is the big deal?

    I'm not asking this to be sarcastic, I honestly want to know some of the issues you have with spam. People seem so militant about spam but I just don't get it.

    1- Kids receiving porn in their email: I can sort of understand this one, but as a parent shouldn't you be watching while your kids is online? The Internet is not just for kids and shouldn't be looked at as a place where kids can roam unsupervised. How long does it take to check their email and delete anything from addresses you don't know? Wouldn't you want to do this anyway, just in case of viruses?

    2- It's annoying: sure, but so is all the junk mail I receive in my regular mailbox. I just trash it and move on.

    Instead of trying to shut people down or making stupid laws that aren't going to be effective anyway shouldn't we just choose not to do business with people who spam and use the tools available to cut down on the amount of spam you receive in your inbox?

    That's just my but perhaps I'm missing something about the spam issue.
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    • NJ Dave
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      • Apr 2003
      • 91
      #2
      One word: Money.

      It costs the people who pay for the bandwidth money.

      I'm not talking about bulkmailings here, those are fine, but people who spam, do so without authorization and cost people time and money.

      It's easy enough to "just delete" it, but the truth is, someone else had to pay for it because the spammer was stealing resources to send his/her garbage.

      It doesn't bother me all that much, I just filter it, but this is the reason most spam nazi's act the way they do.
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        • Mutt
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          • Sep 2002
          • 34431
          #3
          well my problem with it is that the Internet is a wonderful thing, millions of people depend on email for business and personal communications.

          if it was ok to spam, no stigma to it, nobody cared, EVERYBODY would spam, meaning what - 1,000 spams a day in your email box, 5,000, 10,000? Rendering email useless.
          Yeah we do get a lot of spam in our real world physical mailboxes, but those people pay to mail that shit out and that is enough of an obstacle to keep it somewhat manageable.

          the people who do it now are rewarded based on the fact that most webmasters both porn and mainstream are good citizens, their spams are effective because the number of spams in a persons email box are still manageable, if we all spammed their spams would be lost in the clutter, worthless.
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            • FlyingIguana
              aspiring banker
              • Mar 2002
              • 10870
              #4
              it costs the reciever money.

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                • rooster
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                  • Jan 2003
                  • 2384
                  #5
                  there is a crackdown on all forms of spam. Some states are starting to have 'no call lists' and stuff to avoid telemarketing and junk mail.

                  Theres no prob with responsible mailings, but these bulkers are basically thieves and con artists.
                  Ever notice that pretty much everything added to the Constitution after the original was a mistake.

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                    • Sly_RJ
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                      • Feb 2002
                      • 17042
                      #6
                      Originally posted by NJ Dave
                      One word: Money.

                      It costs the people who pay for the bandwidth money.

                      I'm not talking about bulkmailings here, those are fine, but people who spam, do so without authorization and cost people time and money.

                      It's easy enough to "just delete" it, but the truth is, someone else had to pay for it because the spammer was stealing resources to send his/her garbage.

                      It doesn't bother me all that much, I just filter it, but this is the reason most spam nazi's act the way they do.
                      So you're telling me the reason the soccer moms that are bitching to their congressmen about spam is because they're upset that the spam costs them money to download it?

                      Right.
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                        • DeanCapture
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                          • Dec 2002
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                          #7
                          Who fucking wants to get up every morning and sift thru 30, 40, 50 pieces of fucking spam to find the legit mail? Perhaps you only get a few pieces of mail a day and if that is so...of course you would not understand this. But when the time comes that it takes you 30-45 minutes to check your mail and you only had 3 legit pieces of mail in your box, maybe then you'll understand why so many people get pissed at spammers.

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                            • vending_machine
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                              • Jun 2002
                              • 1070
                              #8
                              Some things to keep in mind:

                              1) The government is trying to stop illegal SPAM, IE the ones that try to get you to give them sensitive information like your bank account etc.

                              2) Companies pay a fee to the government in order to send out junk mail via USPS, etc.

                              3) lot of people get in excess of 100 emails per day that are unwanted. Even email adds up to bandwidth which someone has to pay for.


                              I don't report SPAM anymore as there's no point to it, delete does the job..

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                                • AnnihilaT
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                                  • Oct 2002
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                                  #9
                                  mmmmm, spam

                                  Mmmm.......spam!

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                                    • SleazyDream
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                                      • Jul 2001
                                      • 41470
                                      #10
                                      it has to do with CONCENT on CHOICE.

                                      someone CHOOSES to go to a porn site via a link trade, search engine, ad or type in and it's THEIR CHOICE to view the material there when and where they want.

                                      There is no CHOICE with spam.

                                      -You could get a porn spam when surfing the internet with your grandma looking over your shoulder.
                                      -Your kid could get a porn spam when you're not home.
                                      -You have to take time out of your day when you don't CHOOSE to look at or think about porn to delete porn spam.

                                      - and the type of people who do spam are greedy beyond belief so it's now to the point wher I have to take 1-2 hours out of my day just to delete spam emails from these assholes.

                                      WHY SHOULD I have to spend my VALUEABLE time deleting these emails? these is no filter that will work cause I wrk in porn and have to read about porn.

                                      Personally I am for the STRONGEST legislation against spam HUMANINALLY possible. It's just taking up and WASTING too much of my time.
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                                        • kenny
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                                          • Mar 2002
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                                          #11
                                          People should stop trippin on spam and help find aliens with this screen savior

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                                            • UnseenWorld
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                                              • May 2001
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                                              #12
                                              I love it when you click on the link to be taken off their list and it doesn't work or the response is "that e-mail is not in our database" or they ask you to tell them what e-mail address to take off their list and you have a zillion e-mails on forwarding so now YOU have the work of figuring out which of those addresses was the one the spam was sent to.

                                              I also love the "here is the information you asked for" which turns out to be information you never in your life would ask for.

                                              On the whole, though, I think there are more important things to worry about. Nobody is charging ME for the bandwidth of my spam (which has to pale in comparison to the bandwidth I log up in a typical work day).
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                                                • Nina
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                                                  • Mar 2002
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                                                  #13
                                                  good points everyone.
                                                  but I still think spam blockers/filters are the way to go.

                                                  which leads to my next question...
                                                  what are the best ways to cut down on spam?

                                                  I recently sent an email to someone from an address they didn't know and before it was delivered I had to click on a link to verify my address. Then once my email address was verified I never had to do it again. I lost the link to the service... does anyone know who does this?

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                                                    • TheFLY
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                                                      • Jan 2001
                                                      • 11856
                                                      #14
                                                      use it or lose it

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                                                        • oscer
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                                                          • Jan 2001
                                                          • 2834
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by Nina
                                                          what is the big deal?

                                                          I'm not asking this to be sarcastic, I honestly want to know some of the issues you have with spam. People seem so militant about spam but I just don't get it.

                                                          1- Kids receiving porn in their email: I can sort of understand this one, but as a parent shouldn't you be watching while your kids is online? The Internet is not just for kids and shouldn't be looked at as a place where kids can roam unsupervised. How long does it take to check their email and delete anything from addresses you don't know? Wouldn't you want to do this anyway, just in case of viruses?

                                                          2- It's annoying: sure, but so is all the junk mail I receive in my regular mailbox. I just trash it and move on.

                                                          Instead of trying to shut people down or making stupid laws that aren't going to be effective anyway shouldn't we just choose not to do business with people who spam and use the tools available to cut down on the amount of spam you receive in your inbox?

                                                          That's just my but perhaps I'm missing something about the spam issue.

                                                          Very Very Good Point Nina ...

                                                          Spam is an Annoyance ... but the real spammers are not the people who are paying $1 an email for their lists it is the people who are buying programs that are just harvesting Emails ... this is why we have laws most of them are aggainst Malicsous spammers..

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                                                            • Kick Ass Chat
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                                                              • Dec 2002
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                                                              #16
                                                              First of all SleazyDream's post was pretty damm good and I basically agree with his thoughts on this subject.

                                                              Nina you said in your original post "Instead of trying to shut people down or making stupid laws that aren't going to be effective anyway" You are WAY wrong hun, they may never be able to stop spam completely, but I bet you would eat your words if YOU are 1 of the spammers they nail and make an example out of ???... Can you afford $5,000.00 fine per verified spam complaint?? (I highly doubt it) and 5 years in Prison, and it's a Felony conviction??? Lets bring this thread back up in a few months when the "spam convictions" start rolling in....
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                                                                • SykkBoy2
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                                                                  • Feb 2001
                                                                  • 19969
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by GirlsFreePics
                                                                  .

                                                                  Nina you said in your original post "Instead of trying to shut people down or making stupid laws that aren't going to be effective anyway" You are WAY wrong hun, they may never be able to stop spam completely, but I bet you would eat your words if YOU are 1 of the spammers they nail and make an example out of ???... Can you afford $5,000.00 fine per verified spam complaint?? (I highly doubt it) and 5 years in Prison, and it's a Felony conviction??? Lets bring this thread back up in a few months when the "spam convictions" start rolling in....
                                                                  actually, I can't wait for the webmaster who gets convicted because one of their competitors spammed their program to get them in trouble?

                                                                  My problem, is what is a VERIFIED spam complaint? Some stupid fuck who joined a mailing list and didn't read the terms and now bitches to his senator about it?


                                                                  hahah, this law is going to be fun fun fun...

                                                                  hmm, maybe I'll spam myself from an affiliate program and them turn them in for spamming....

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                                                                    • cluck
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                                                                      • Dec 2002
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                                                                      #18
                                                                      When you go from $0 to $50 to $1200/day it's easy to rationalize spamming. As for filters they're the only reason spam is lucrative at all right now. All it means is that you have to be good to get your mails through.
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                                                                        • vending_machine
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                                                                          • Jun 2002
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                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by Nina
                                                                          good points everyone.
                                                                          but I still think spam blockers/filters are the way to go.

                                                                          which leads to my next question...
                                                                          what are the best ways to cut down on spam?

                                                                          I recently sent an email to someone from an address they didn't know and before it was delivered I had to click on a link to verify my address. Then once my email address was verified I never had to do it again. I lost the link to the service... does anyone know who does this?
                                                                          It's called a whitelist, only accept emails from people you allow or that are able to click on a link in order to verify.

                                                                          Having filters is a good idea, however you will never be able to have the perfect filter. Someone will always get through, some legit mail will always get rejected.

                                                                          Would you like it if snail mail destined for you got returned even though it was legit?

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                                                                            • pornJester
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                                                                              • Mar 2001
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                                                                              #20
                                                                              Put simply, why should I have to dig through a bunch of BS to get my important mail?


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                                                                                • Nina
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                                                                                  • Mar 2002
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                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by vending_machine


                                                                                  It's called a whitelist, only accept emails from people you allow or that are able to click on a link in order to verify.

                                                                                  Having filters is a good idea, however you will never be able to have the perfect filter. Someone will always get through, some legit mail will always get rejected.

                                                                                  Would you like it if snail mail destined for you got returned even though it was legit?
                                                                                  I like the whitelist idea... sounds like a good solution.

                                                                                  Does anyone have a link to somewhere I can set this up?

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                                                                                    • galleryseek
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                                                                                      • Mar 2002
                                                                                      • 8234
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by SleazyDream


                                                                                      - and the type of people who do spam are greedy beyond belief so it's now to the point wher I have to take 1-2 hours out of my day just to delete spam emails from these assholes.

                                                                                      um you spend an hour or 2 hours a day hitting the delete button? lol

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                                                                                        • steffie
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • May 2002
                                                                                          • 2422
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by Nina

                                                                                          1- Kids receiving porn in their email: I can sort of understand this one, but as a parent shouldn't you be watching while your kids is online? The Internet is not just for kids and shouldn't be looked at as a place where kids can roam unsupervised. How long does it take to check their email and delete anything from addresses you don't know? Wouldn't you want to do this anyway, just in case of viruses?

                                                                                          .
                                                                                          Ok, I have to take a stand on this one, Mom of kids here with access to Internet

                                                                                          My younger cubs have eblaster installed on their pc
                                                                                          (look it up if you don't know what it is)

                                                                                          They are not allowed on AOL due to so many weirdos on there

                                                                                          My 13 year old receives about 20 Porn Emails per day. I check her email in the morning when I get up, however she still opens some of them accidentally and is confronted with all kind of nasty stuff.

                                                                                          She received one the other day that even got me Subject link
                                                                                          "How to fix your hair for the prom"
                                                                                          Inside was a picture of a girl being bukkakeed


                                                                                          She loves to sign up to horoscopes, daily jokes, girlie stuff etc. So her email is out there.

                                                                                          If you spam you should at least put in the header

                                                                                          "OVER 18 ONLY - ADULT MATERIAL"
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                                                                                            • SleazyDream
                                                                                              I'm here for SPORT
                                                                                              • Jul 2001
                                                                                              • 41470
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by Nina
                                                                                              good points everyone.
                                                                                              but I still think spam blockers/filters are the way to go.

                                                                                              which leads to my next question...
                                                                                              what are the best ways to cut down on spam?

                                                                                              I recently sent an email to someone from an address they didn't know and before it was delivered I had to click on a link to verify my address. Then once my email address was verified I never had to do it again. I lost the link to the service... does anyone know who does this?
                                                                                              there is no way i can use a spam blocker fliter in my line of work - i wouldn't be able to get my good emails.


                                                                                              legislate against the spammers
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                                                                                                • Sly_RJ
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                                                                                                  • Feb 2002
                                                                                                  • 17042
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by SleazyDream

                                                                                                  legislate against the spammers
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                                                                                                    • SleazyDream
                                                                                                      I'm here for SPORT
                                                                                                      • Jul 2001
                                                                                                      • 41470
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by galleryseek


                                                                                                      um you spend an hour or 2 hours a day hitting the delete button? lol
                                                                                                      sometimes more.
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                                                                                                        • Nina
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                                                                                                          • Mar 2002
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                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by SleazyDream


                                                                                                          there is no way i can use a spam blocker fliter in my line of work - i wouldn't be able to get my good emails.


                                                                                                          legislate against the spammers
                                                                                                          the whitelist idea isn't really a filter, as I understand it.

                                                                                                          You set up a list of known email addresses that you receive email from and that email comes through just fine.

                                                                                                          Anyone who emails you that you don't know has to verify their email address... just like with many of the gallery submitting scripts.

                                                                                                          Then once verified that email goes on the good list and they never have to verify their email address again.

                                                                                                          I wish I could find a link to the site that offered this.

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                                                                                                            • stocktrader23
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                                                                                                              • Jan 2003
                                                                                                              • 18781
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by SleazyDream
                                                                                                              it has to do with CONCENT on CHOICE.

                                                                                                              someone CHOOSES to go to a porn site via a link trade, search engine, ad or type in and it's THEIR CHOICE to view the material there when and where they want.

                                                                                                              There is no CHOICE with spam.

                                                                                                              -You could get a porn spam when surfing the internet with your grandma looking over your shoulder.
                                                                                                              -Your kid could get a porn spam when you're not home.
                                                                                                              -You have to take time out of your day when you don't CHOOSE to look at or think about porn to delete porn spam.

                                                                                                              - and the type of people who do spam are greedy beyond belief so it's now to the point wher I have to take 1-2 hours out of my day just to delete spam emails from these assholes.

                                                                                                              WHY SHOULD I have to spend my VALUEABLE time deleting these emails? these is no filter that will work cause I wrk in porn and have to read about porn.

                                                                                                              Personally I am for the STRONGEST legislation against spam HUMANINALLY possible. It's just taking up and WASTING too much of my time.
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                                                                                                                • mrbling
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                                                                                                                  • Jun 2002
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                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  looks like sleazydream is too stupid to download a mail filter program like http://www.cloudmark.com/products/spamnet/ which filters 99% of all spam.

                                                                                                                  instead he likes to sit on his computer for 2 hours hitting the delete button.

                                                                                                                  No wonder he runs a TGP
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                                                                                                                    • Stallion
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                                                                                                                      • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                      • 6632
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by DeanCapture
                                                                                                                      Who fucking wants to get up every morning and sift thru 30, 40, 50 pieces of fucking spam to find the legit mail? Perhaps you only get a few pieces of mail a day and if that is so...of course you would not understand this. But when the time comes that it takes you 30-45 minutes to check your mail and you only had 3 legit pieces of mail in your box, maybe then you'll understand why so many people get pissed at spammers.

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                                                                                                                        • dantheman
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                                                                                                                            • Probono
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                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              I will try to distinguish between what I view as illegal SPAM that should send people to jail and that which must be considered electronic bulkmail.

                                                                                                                              Illegal (my definition) forged headers if you are not willing to put your name on it should not send it. Stolen resources, stealing my mail server or yours as a relay point to send SPAM. Adult SPAM with subject lines that will fool the average SPAM filter and get opened by kids (are we suicidal)

                                                                                                                              Legal - Opt in email, unsolicited direct mail with a real from address and a REAL opt out. (Each time I try to opt out now I find more and more SPAM comming in)

                                                                                                                              We in this industry NEED to be sensitive to the adult email sent out that is not clearly marked adult so that it can be filtered out. We are arming the Neoconservatives when we allow those materials to reach kids.

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                                                                                                                                • Stallion
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                                                                                                                                  • Jan 2001
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                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Nina,

                                                                                                                                  I don't really have a problem with just deleting the crap I get. I get about 1000+ spam emails a day through all my domains. Alot of these are filtered directly into the trashcan or I just simply remove it.

                                                                                                                                  I agree with you as far as parents should watch what their kids are doing on the internet. There are several programs that can limit what their kids can see, but do they take the initiative and install those programs on their computer and do their part to protect their children from unwanted content? No they are too lazy and feel everyone else should raise their children for them.


                                                                                                                                  Now people sending me illegal content, I do complain on. Those sicko's deserve everything they can get.
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                                                                                                                                    • Rich
                                                                                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                      • Jan 2003
                                                                                                                                      • 11486
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by DeanCapture
                                                                                                                                      Who fucking wants to get up every morning and sift thru 30, 40, 50 pieces of fucking spam to find the legit mail? Perhaps you only get a few pieces of mail a day and if that is so...of course you would not understand this. But when the time comes that it takes you 30-45 minutes to check your mail and you only had 3 legit pieces of mail in your box, maybe then you'll understand why so many people get pissed at spammers.

                                                                                                                                      Cheers -

                                                                                                                                      d*
                                                                                                                                      30-45 minutes to sift thru 30-50 spams? 1 minute each time to hit delete? ahahahahahahaha, what are you a fucking retard? I think you either need to study hooked on phonics a little harder, or get into a new business. I see a paper hat and a lot of grease in your future.

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                                                                                                                                        • Nina
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                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by dantheman
                                                                                                                                          nina take a look at this link it might help you

                                                                                                                                          thank you! that's exactly what I'm looking for.

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                                                                                                                                            • Probono
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                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Rich


                                                                                                                                              30-45 minutes to sift thru 30-50 spams? 1 minute each time to hit delete? ahahahahahahaha, what are you a fucking retard? I think you either need to study hooked on phonics a little harder, or get into a new business. I see a paper hat and a lot of grease in your future.
                                                                                                                                              In this business most of my real email gets flagged as SPAM. Makes for some work

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                                                                                                                                                • Rich
                                                                                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                  • Jan 2003
                                                                                                                                                  • 11486
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Probono


                                                                                                                                                  In this business most of my real email gets flagged as SPAM. Makes for some work
                                                                                                                                                  I'm in the same business and I don't have that problem at all. I guess I'm smart and you're stupid.

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                                                                                                                                                    • Probono
                                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                      • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                                                      • 2731
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Rich


                                                                                                                                                      I'm in the same business and I don't have that problem at all. I guess I'm smart and you're stupid.
                                                                                                                                                      LOL well then since you are far wiser than me tell me your secret?

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                                                                                                                                                        • stocktrader23
                                                                                                                                                          Let's do some business.
                                                                                                                                                          • Jan 2003
                                                                                                                                                          • 18781
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Rich


                                                                                                                                                          I'm in the same business and I don't have that problem at all. I guess I'm smart and you're stupid.
                                                                                                                                                          lol


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                                                                                                                                                            • Genghis Khan
                                                                                                                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                              • May 2003
                                                                                                                                                              • 27
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Spammers fucking suck. Best way to beat the spammers is report them to everyone possible and change your email address every week. Works for me.

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                                                                                                                                                                • tony299
                                                                                                                                                                  lurker
                                                                                                                                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                                                                                                                                  • 57021
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  there is no way i can use a spam blocker fliter in my line of work - i wouldn't be able to get my good emails.

                                                                                                                                                                  I agree on that, also when people compare spam to junk mail. Imagine when you went to your mailbox everyday there was 50-100 pieces of junk mail. People would be screaming for blood. My biggest problem with spam is the porn spam thats very graphic that goes to people who dont want it. That affects all of us because you cant use the argument if you dont like dont look it when people in our industry are sticking it in their faces. Also kids get it and its irresponsible, I know its fun to throw the responsiblity to the parents . No its ours, people have to act like responsible adults or they will keep clamping down til there is no adult online porn coming out of the USA especially if w gets another four years.

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                                                                                                                                                                    • tony299
                                                                                                                                                                      lurker
                                                                                                                                                                      • Aug 2002
                                                                                                                                                                      • 57021
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      That program looks cool Nina, the problem is I have five email addreses so thats $200 a year to fight spam . I think I will stick with pressing delete lol.

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                                                                                                                                                                        • notion
                                                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                          • Feb 2003
                                                                                                                                                                          • 293
                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Mutt
                                                                                                                                                                          if it was ok to spam, no stigma to it, nobody cared, EVERYBODY would spam, meaning what - 1,000 spams a day in your email box, 5,000, 10,000?
                                                                                                                                                                          Wrong.
                                                                                                                                                                          sekz.

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                                                                                                                                                                            • Nina
                                                                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                              • Mar 2002
                                                                                                                                                                              • 2687
                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by tony404
                                                                                                                                                                              That program looks cool Nina, the problem is I have five email addreses so thats $200 a year to fight spam . I think I will stick with pressing delete lol.
                                                                                                                                                                              yeah I hear that.

                                                                                                                                                                              but I'm trying it out on my main email address and so far I love it... granted I've only been using it for a couple hours but it was very easy to set up and seems to be working perfectly.

                                                                                                                                                                              It's only $35/year... so it might be worthwhile if you have one main address like I do.

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                                                                                                                                                                                • Anthony_A
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                                                                                                                                                                                  • Feb 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                  • 1219
                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  Nina,

                                                                                                                                                                                  This is the best free one I've found http://www.mailfrontier.com It's called matador.

                                                                                                                                                                                  I put it up on about 6 machines now, if you use the challenge on it, it will block about 95% of spam coming in.

                                                                                                                                                                                  Good luck!

                                                                                                                                                                                  Ant


                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Nina


                                                                                                                                                                                  the whitelist idea isn't really a filter, as I understand it.

                                                                                                                                                                                  You set up a list of known email addresses that you receive email from and that email comes through just fine.

                                                                                                                                                                                  Anyone who emails you that you don't know has to verify their email address... just like with many of the gallery submitting scripts.

                                                                                                                                                                                  Then once verified that email goes on the good list and they never have to verify their email address again.

                                                                                                                                                                                  I wish I could find a link to the site that offered this.
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                                                                                                                                                                                    • SleazyDream
                                                                                                                                                                                      I'm here for SPORT
                                                                                                                                                                                      • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                      • 41470
                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Rich


                                                                                                                                                                                      I'm in the same business and I don't have that problem at all. I guess I'm smart and you're stupid.
                                                                                                                                                                                      that from the same guy who runs an illigial casino and thought he could SUE me for slander...............


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                                                                                                                                                                                        • Angelonfire
                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Nina
                                                                                                                                                                                          what is the big deal?

                                                                                                                                                                                          I'm not asking this to be sarcastic, I honestly want to know some of the issues you have with spam. People seem so militant about spam but I just don't get it.

                                                                                                                                                                                          1- Kids receiving porn in their email: I can sort of understand this one, but as a parent shouldn't you be watching while your kids is online? The Internet is not just for kids and shouldn't be looked at as a place where kids can roam unsupervised. How long does it take to check their email and delete anything from addresses you don't know? Wouldn't you want to do this anyway, just in case of viruses?

                                                                                                                                                                                          2- It's annoying: sure, but so is all the junk mail I receive in my regular mailbox. I just trash it and move on.

                                                                                                                                                                                          Instead of trying to shut people down or making stupid laws that aren't going to be effective anyway shouldn't we just choose not to do business with people who spam and use the tools available to cut down on the amount of spam you receive in your inbox?

                                                                                                                                                                                          That's just my but perhaps I'm missing something about the spam issue.
                                                                                                                                                                                          NIna I agree

                                                                                                                                                                                          Letting your kids on the internet without supervising is like sending them on a plan alone !!!


                                                                                                                                                                                          When I opend my daughters Hotmail accompt a few years ago ...they got spammed with porn sites...

                                                                                                                                                                                          I JSUT TOLD THEM what is was... Explaining to kids is the best way.. Told them how to block unwanted emails etc...

                                                                                                                                                                                          Dammm they dont have to go far to get spammed ... media ,radio TV video, thatre movies...at school with there friends...

                                                                                                                                                                                          Come on we cant hide them whats outthere... we need to COMMUNICATE and stop trying to overprotect them and hide them that there is a whole world outhere and they are exposed to many things. They have choices and decisions to make...

                                                                                                                                                                                          Teach them that they are consequences to every decision and act you make in life...

                                                                                                                                                                                          BUt there no easy way explaiing things alwasy hard and ys spammed do sucks.... Be honnest.....for some people in the biz does a lillte spammed here and there make you money ???

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