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  • iwantchixx
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Oct 2002
    • 12860

    #1

    Learn from my ignorance...

    If you are like me and have an Athlon system that is prone to heat issues in the summer don't stop worrying about it during the winter. I ignored mine, and let it sit runnign 24/7 since november withought cleaning or checkign shit out. Here is why.....

    Pc has been doing random reboots and BSOD's lately, so i ignored the warnings and went on as usual. Tonight I was posting in one of Nina's threads and as I hit submit my screen went black, piercing high pitched squeeling from the speakers and the cd drive kept shuffling. So I powered down, opened case and almost died from the dust. What I found after laying teh pc on its side under a light totaly shocked me. I found a cpu that hit 80 degrees C and a geforce 4 that had a stuck fan.




    I then cleaned it out with alot of q-tips and paper corners. I then removed the cpu heatsink fan. This is what I found beneath it.... sad isn't it? There is no way I got air through that bitch.







    The fan is fucking nasty.. thank god for q-tips and watter.




    SO I got it all cleaned up and air moving nicely everywhere,..... then came teh two hours getting this POS to boot.

    BSOD's of hell!
    Stop errors galore, freezes galore.

    Even the xp installer couldn't boot

    FInally had to reset bios and laod optimal settings and jump my fsb down to 200 mhz to get windows to even start to boot. A few full sentence curses later it booted!

    That's fucking it.... I'm getting a damn p4 that can handle the heat. As much as I hate their sloppy pipelines,,, i hate heat more.
  • galleryseek
    Confirmed User
    • Mar 2002
    • 8234

    #2
    mine got pretty bad, but not as bad as that.

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    • iwantchixx
      Too lazy to set a custom title
      • Oct 2002
      • 12860

      #3
      Originally posted by galleryseek
      mine got pretty bad, but not as bad as that.
      this is pretty fucking nasty, I cannot belive I let it get this bad... During the summer I babysit the thing with canned air and a huge 6 inch 24 volt steel fan

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      • siccmade
        Confirmed User
        • Nov 2002
        • 1641

        #4
        We have a hp pavilion here that overheats like a beat

        I gotta clean the dust out every other week, the shit is nuts

        runs clean for a while, then its nothing but errors

        I even had a regular house fan on it, shits nuts


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        • iwantchixx
          Too lazy to set a custom title
          • Oct 2002
          • 12860

          #5
          In teh summer with all kidns of fans runnign i get 70 celcius, in winter 40.... but last week I saw a temp of 71 steady... not cool, literaly hehe

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          • integrated
            Confirmed User
            • Apr 2003
            • 3826

            #6
            pics not loading for me

            but i feel you pain i had fucken spider webs in my machine lol

            didnt see any spiders probably died from the heat

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            • L0stMind
              Confirmed User
              • Sep 2002
              • 1681

              #7
              pics aint loading either bro!

              But you know, you cant blame AMD for not maintaining your pc...

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              • iwantchixx
                Too lazy to set a custom title
                • Oct 2002
                • 12860

                #8
                server is getting hit too much at same time i think, no biggie right now....

                The problem I have with AMD is the lack of thermal protection. It will not shut the system down like it is suposed to. All athlons have defective thermal diodes.

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                • iwantchixx
                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                  • Oct 2002
                  • 12860

                  #9
                  whoa shit, soemthing is up... I was being hotlinked by necrohiphop at 200k hits per day and I never got a slowdown... so it's not 5 pics on gfy doing it.... Nothing on my domain even pops up. nor ftp

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                  • iwantchixx
                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                    • Oct 2002
                    • 12860

                    #10
                    sweet... being worked on withought having to inform the host. God I love sinhost

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                    • xenigo
                      Confirmed User
                      • Jan 2001
                      • 8067

                      #11
                      I had a similar issue with my GeForce I DDR card... I ran my machine 24 hours a day since I bought the damn thing, and one day I unlocked my workstation and everything was COMPLETELY blurry... it was insane. I called Sony the next day cause I thought it was my 21" monitor that went out... which would suck to have to UPS back to them for repair.

                      Opened up the box and it turned out the fan on the videocard stopped, cause it was all clogged with dust. I've been thinking perhaps a HEPA filtered air filter in my room might help with the dust issue.

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                      • iwantchixx
                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                        • Oct 2002
                        • 12860

                        #12
                        Originally posted by xenigo
                        I had a similar issue with my GeForce I DDR card... I ran my machine 24 hours a day since I bought the damn thing, and one day I unlocked my workstation and everything was COMPLETELY blurry... it was insane. I called Sony the next day cause I thought it was my 21" monitor that went out... which would suck to have to UPS back to them for repair.

                        Opened up the box and it turned out the fan on the videocard stopped, cause it was all clogged with dust. I've been thinking perhaps a HEPA filtered air filter in my room might help with the dust issue.
                        actually, put cheesecloth on all your fan grills and all openings in the case.

                        I have been meaning to dot hat for months now... but of course, procrastinated

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                        • nap
                          Confirmed User
                          • Dec 2002
                          • 2765

                          #13
                          thanks for the reminder.


                          p.s. do you keep your doors on the case?

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                          • iwantchixx
                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                            • Oct 2002
                            • 12860

                            #14
                            Originally posted by nap
                            thanks for the reminder.


                            p.s. do you keep your doors on the case?
                            I left it on during the winter. In the summer i have it off. It's off now tho.

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                            • AaronM
                              GFY Royality ;)
                              • Oct 2001
                              • 46917

                              #15
                              Clean your fucking house. There is no excuse for that. I have computers sitting here that have been running for 3+ years that have NEVER been cleaned out and they are nowhere near that dirty.

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                              • detoxed
                                vip member
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 17798

                                #16
                                I've never had a computer overheat or go bad at all.. weird..

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                                • iwantchixx
                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                  • Oct 2002
                                  • 12860

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by AaronM
                                  Clean your fucking house. There is no excuse for that. I have computers sitting here that have been running for 3+ years that have NEVER been cleaned out and they are nowhere near that dirty.
                                  My home is spotless. But dust likes to collect in electronics. We have OLD hardwood floors here that are seperating so we get alot of dust creeping up nonstop. Plus it doesnt help that my cat is shedding..

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                                  • cash69
                                    So Fucking Banned
                                    • Oct 2002
                                    • 1052

                                    #18
                                    you got some nasty shit flying around in your house

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                                    • cash69
                                      So Fucking Banned
                                      • Oct 2002
                                      • 1052

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by iwantchixx


                                      My home is spotless. But dust likes to collect in electronics. We have OLD hardwood floors here that are seperating so we get alot of dust creeping up nonstop. Plus it doesnt help that my cat is shedding..
                                      doesn't look like cat hair... it looks like mold (hope that's a word cause it sounds fucked up)

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                                      • Gunni
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Apr 2003
                                        • 2385

                                        #20
                                        Dude, you could have burned your house down!
                                        I had a PC that caught fire once, just because of to much dust, now I clean it out at least twice a year!

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                                        • iwantchixx
                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                          • Oct 2002
                                          • 12860

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by cash69


                                          doesn't look like cat hair... it looks like mold (hope that's a word cause it sounds fucked up)
                                          The case itself was lined in dust bunnises held together with cat hair. the heatsinks were filled with hardened dust. I have a very high rpm fan on that sucker so it compacts dust like a vice

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                                          • Mishi
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Feb 2002
                                            • 1054

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by iwantchixx


                                            My home is spotless. But dust likes to collect in electronics. We have OLD hardwood floors here that are seperating so we get alot of dust creeping up nonstop. Plus it doesnt help that my cat is shedding..
                                            Cats in the house will WRECK your 'puter's guts faster than you can say "cat." Computers are super-magnets for cat hair and all that goes with it.

                                            For some reason my IDE cables have been dropping like flies lately, and every time I open the case, I'm appalled at the level of icky nastiness that's accumulated inside the case. This is, like, every two months at most. Eek.
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                                            • AdultNex
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Feb 2003
                                              • 8985

                                              #23
                                              Another reason why I love my Antec 1080B case. The front chassis has an air filter, I recommend you get this case.

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                                              • evildick

                                                #24
                                                Holy shit, that's fucking dirty.

                                                My new computer has a big window on the side so I can see when it needs to be cleaned now.

                                                I've got an old Pentium 100 that has never been cleaned and I don't think it is anywhere near that dirty.

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                                                • Feivel
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • May 2003
                                                  • 1203

                                                  #25
                                                  i think you have the same mainboard like me

                                                  k7 elitegroupe?

                                                  but my board is still working

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                                                  • Tex Willer
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Apr 2002
                                                    • 1105

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by cash69
                                                    you got some nasty shit flying around in your house

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                                                    • Buff
                                                      GFY Assassin
                                                      • May 2003
                                                      • 2993

                                                      #27
                                                      Iwant: Thanks for the heads-up dude. I'm gonna be more careful about cleaning my machine now. Thanks for snapping the pics too. An honest to goodness public service message with pics and everything. You didn't have to do that. Appreciate it.

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                                                      • eroswebmaster
                                                        March 1st, 2003
                                                        • Jul 2001
                                                        • 20295

                                                        #28
                                                        I was having some issues about a week or so ago.

                                                        It was all heat related. I checked my temp and was running at about 71c.

                                                        I did a bit of research on the net and learned that the fan shipped with the amd athlon is a piece of shit, can't handle the job.

                                                        Went out and bought the best fan they had at Frye's don't remember the name tossed the box...anyway runs $29.95...my puter has been running 41c with a full load
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                                                        • Kevin2
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • May 2003
                                                          • 1429

                                                          #29
                                                          wow I just checked mine and I can't believe all the shit in their already. I will have to strip it down and give it a good cleaning. Thanks for the reminder

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                                                          • iwantchixx
                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                            • Oct 2002
                                                            • 12860

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Feivel
                                                            i think you have the same mainboard like me

                                                            k7 elitegroupe?

                                                            but my board is still working

                                                            Yup, ks75a rev3.1. Their most "solid" board. Unfortunately I abused it beyond what people would even dare put their 400 dollar boards through.

                                                            Last summer, crappy heatsink. PS7, UT, UT2K3, outlook, at least 12 porn browsers, winamp runnign 24/7 with a dsp pluggin that loves eating up soundcard's bandwidth all running at same time. I'd just pause a game and alt-tab around. Overclocked to 284mhz on cpu and ram bus. AT that time I only had 256 mb sdram... so page file was hit every 5 seconds. Also have powermenu's transparencies runnign 24/7. Not to mention 17 IRC channels open with 15,000 lines of text buffered in main memory per channel.


                                                            Then my power supply blew up. Literaly! that little POS generic 250w couldnt cut it anymore. So I had to get myself a beafy 300w with MAJOR TOC wattage and sperate filters on each chain.

                                                            SO moral of story is. it can take a licking, just give it a beafy power supply and lots of cool air and it will last like the big boys. Stupid me,,,, I let it get cancer in the fans.


                                                            Now THAT is abuse. Oh yeah. Only rebooted every month or two.

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