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  • Nardimus
    Confirmed User
    • Feb 2003
    • 418
    #1

    Some WEIRD shit going on with Bank of America & Porn Sites

    Two months in a row now i've tried to use my ATM check card and eventhough i know theres plenty of loot in my account it was denied. So when i got home i checked my voice mail and there was a message from B of A (both times).

    It was the Consumer Protection Department.

    They said "we randomly monitor customers accounts for activity that appears fraudulent and contact the account owners to make sure they are the ones in posession of the card and making the transactions."

    I've only boughten 3 memberships to a paysite in the past year and it was just to research sites i was promoting.

    Well, the first time they asked me about WIPIFRIENDS and PAYCOM... ???
    Immediately i was concerned because obviously this department has been told to monitor any transactions from those companies.

    Then today it happened again... guess what they asked me about??

    A $3.95 paycom trial membership i bought yesterday at one of siccash's sites.

    WTF is going on ?

    That is some weird shit and i don't think i'm going to be using Paycom anytime soon for my paysites in the future.

    Anybody ever had this happen? Everytime i buy from Paycom B of A is gonna temporarily suspend my card until they get my authorization or what?

    SCARY
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    • Fletch XXX
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      • Jan 2002
      • 60840
      #2
      ifriends is known by many banks thats for sure.

      big NSF checks get noticed, and remembered. especially by nazi ass B of A.

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        • the real magoo
          So Fucking Banned
          • Sep 2001
          • 1637
          #3
          Jesus Christ will save us all from the horrible porn industry.
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            • Mr. Jim
              Confirmed User
              • Mar 2003
              • 4372
              #4
              boughten

              hmmmm

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                • polish_aristocrat
                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 40377
                  #5
                  that's not good news for cross-sales
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                    • Nardimus
                      Confirmed User
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 418
                      #6
                      Originally posted by jimholio
                      boughten

                      hmmmm
                      hehe shit, do i get a C on my spelling test?

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                        • Nardimus
                          Confirmed User
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 418
                          #7
                          Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
                          that's not good news for cross-sales
                          it's freaky, i even asked the guy today if this is going to happen every month to me or what? he said that it is completely random and shouldnt happen again but crap 2 times now. i would be bummed of all of my paysite customers were getting called and asked about pornsite charges. especially since forgetting about rebills is what makes webmasters money in the long run.

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                            • cash69
                              So Fucking Banned
                              • Oct 2002
                              • 1052
                              #8
                              hey shit my bank did that to when i bought a free trial to my own sites to test something out

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                                • BJ
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Mar 2002
                                  • 5590
                                  #9
                                  some mainstream companies won't let you use debit cards at all.

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                                    • jimmyf
                                      OU812
                                      • Feb 2001
                                      • 12651
                                      #10
                                      B of A did that to me 2 times. I wasn't buying porn though.
                                      I told' em after the second time... Don't ever do that any more. At the time I was going out of town a lot. Never has happened again.
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                                        • ronin
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                                          • Aug 2002
                                          • 1300
                                          #11
                                          B of A SUCKS! fee for this, fee for that, fee,fee,fee

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                                            • Yo Adrian
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                                              • Apr 2002
                                              • 6326
                                              #12
                                              BofA did that to me once while out of town as well
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                                                • pine
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                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                  • 1373
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by Nardimus

                                                  hehe shit, do i get a C on my spelling test?
                                                  Yes...but only if the "C" is actually a mis-spelled "F".
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                                                    • cafeaulait
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Jun 2002
                                                      • 587
                                                      #14
                                                      I have plenty of balance in my account and have certainly never charged back. But I get rejected at every Paycom site I try to join (for research purposes), fuck 'em I guess.

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                                                        • pornguy
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                                                          • Mar 2003
                                                          • 62910
                                                          #15
                                                          Cafe'

                                                          Have you tried to use the card to buy a membership to just anyold adult site out there??? Maybe they are onlu calling on porn sites. And if that is so, you may want to contact an attorney!!! UNless they notify their card holders that they will not allow charges to adult sites, due to charge backs or what ever, Then they have no right to keep you from using your money any way you choose!!!
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                                                            • dav555add
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                                                              • Jun 2001
                                                              • 3427
                                                              #16
                                                              Tried to use a regular credit card to register on ifriends to check out a camgirl.
                                                              45 minuites later I get call from credit card company asking me if I charged $1 to paycom, I said yes, they tell me they can't approve the charge, I said what are you talking about, there's something like $3000 opne on the card, they say they do not allow their card to be used for porn purchase!!!!
                                                              New rule in effect since march 1st... They say, if Itry to use card for more porn, they'll cancel my account with prejudice
                                                              ...

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                                                                • Sly_RJ
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                                                                  • Feb 2002
                                                                  • 17042
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by dav555add
                                                                  Tried to use a regular credit card to register on ifriends to check out a camgirl.
                                                                  45 minuites later I get call from credit card company asking me if I charged $1 to paycom, I said yes, they tell me they can't approve the charge, I said what are you talking about, there's something like $3000 opne on the card, they say they do not allow their card to be used for porn purchase!!!!
                                                                  New rule in effect since march 1st... They say, if Itry to use card for more porn, they'll cancel my account with prejudice
                                                                  What?

                                                                  You have to be kidding?

                                                                  I hope you switched banks and let them know why.
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                                                                    • dav555add
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                                                                      • Jun 2001
                                                                      • 3427
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by Sly_RJ

                                                                      What?

                                                                      You have to be kidding?

                                                                      I hope you switched banks and let them know why.
                                                                      No, not kidding...
                                                                      I told them to shove their card up their puritan asses,.
                                                                      But this kind of thing may lead to lots of chargeback and people not being able to charge their porn anymore.
                                                                      ...

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                                                                        • steffie
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • May 2002
                                                                          • 2422
                                                                          #19
                                                                          I posted about B and A a while ago, I ran into problems with my card being rejected at several adult sites and I had plenty of funds to cover the trials.

                                                                          I ended up talking to the bank, they never called me. They told me that some sites are questionable expecially if they had chargebacks with them (I know the bank manager and she knows what i do)

                                                                          She of course wouldn't give me any specifics but she did hint around that certain sites (and I guess not just adult) are on hit/black lists at certain banks

                                                                          geeez
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                                                                            • MrPanama
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Aug 2001
                                                                              • 815
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Fucking B of A.......Here in Canada they dont charge us $5 every time we want to go into our bank and talk to a real person.....but if I wanna talk to someone at B of A they charge me for it...lol...
                                                                              Also I used my B of A debit card to buy a coffee once and it costed $2 and there was only $1.70 in the account so they charged me some $15 overdraft fee...... Fuck that bank, felt good to cancel my account
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                                                                                • playa
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Feb 2001
                                                                                  • 6432
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  i got several banks accounts from B of A,

                                                                                  i just use them for convience because the kroger is down the street and the bank doesn't close to 8 pm.

                                                                                  but one day i went there to open up a new corporate business account and the bastard accused me of having fraudulant paper work. I kindly reminded him that i had already been a customer for over 5 years with a substantial balance.

                                                                                  I was really pissed that day,, wasted like 2 hours trying to get a new account

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                                                                                    • robfantasy
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                                                                                      • Jun 2002
                                                                                      • 6445
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      i get a complimentary blow job everytime i step into my bank.
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                                                                                        • psyko514
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                                                                                          • Oct 2002
                                                                                          • 22366
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Visa calls it the Falcon system. Mastercard has something similar.

                                                                                          It's a fraud detection system that monitors accounts for suspicious transactions. Transactions that have a higher rate of fraud/chargebacks then regular transactions.

                                                                                          These include merchants in the 5967 category code (which includes, but isn't limited to) third party processors.

                                                                                          They also monitor automated systems (payphones, automated gas pumps, movie theatre ticket dispensers, etc). Usually, a card thief will test the card in these systems to see if it's still valid.

                                                                                          Electronics stores are also monitored. So are liquor stores.

                                                                                          Transactions done abroad are also monitored.

                                                                                          Things like large/multiple declines are also monitored (for example, you only have $200 available but transactions are attempted for $2k, $3k or the same transaction is repeated multiple times).

                                                                                          If you're in a store and it happens, the card isn't declined, it's reffered. The merchant's terminal says "Call issuing bank". A quick call to your bank to say it's you and they'll put it through.

                                                                                          The system detects based on your account history. If internet charges are rare, an paysite membership may be "falconed". If you've never gone out of town and all of a sudden, hundreds of dollars are spent across the world, you might be falconed. If you only do small transactions and then you attempt a transaction for a large sum, you might be falconed.

                                                                                          In all cases, a simple call to your bank "unblocks" your card. At many banks, they can set up your account to bypass this system temporarily or permanently. For example, if you're going to Europe for 2 weeks, let your bank know. Or if you're putting a large charge on, let them know. Or like jimmyf did, they can bypass it completely. Only problem is it leaves you open to fraud, and they might hold you liable if they can prove the system could have prevented it.

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                                                                                            • psyko514
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                                                                                              • Oct 2002
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                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by dav555add
                                                                                              Tried to use a regular credit card to register on ifriends to check out a camgirl.
                                                                                              45 minuites later I get call from credit card company asking me if I charged $1 to paycom, I said yes, they tell me they can't approve the charge, I said what are you talking about, there's something like $3000 opne on the card, they say they do not allow their card to be used for porn purchase!!!!
                                                                                              New rule in effect since march 1st... They say, if Itry to use card for more porn, they'll cancel my account with prejudice
                                                                                              What type of card was it?

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                                                                                                • kmanrox
                                                                                                  aka K-Man
                                                                                                  • Oct 2001
                                                                                                  • 29295
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  imagine how i felt contacting my longtime friend from electracash to chargeback/credit some charges for a faux beastiality site that ketp charging me =-/
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                                                                                                    • Lily
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                                                                                                      • Jan 2003
                                                                                                      • 147
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      I've had my biz account with BofA for over three years now. I purchase content, domains, software, books, movies, ETC ETC ETC. online and ALWAYS HAVE.

                                                                                                      Last month I got calls two days in a row asking about various purchases. They said it was totally random and it appears that I reacted in the same way that many of you did....how the hell can it be random if it happens to me two days in a row out of over 1000 days that I've had this account?

                                                                                                      I told them that I purchase things online EVERY SINGLE DAY and ALWAYS WILL and to NOT CALL ME AGAIN.

                                                                                                      They haven't called me since.

                                                                                                      The thing about not being able to use your credit card to purchase porn is SCARY though. WTF?!

                                                                                                      Is that real? I was buying content on a few of their inquiries and they didn't ask me if it was porn, just wanted me to verify that I recognized the merchants.

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                                                                                                        • Rochard
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                                                                                                          • Dec 2001
                                                                                                          • 75764
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Do you know what's really odd?

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                                                                                                            • RockDaddy
                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                              • Jul 2001
                                                                                                              • 750
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              I can see the banks point though. In most cases it just sounds like they are looking out for you (and them).

                                                                                                              I've actually had my wifes debit card used by some guy in Turkey who purchased domains, paid for hosting, bought porn memberships to get his referral money etc.. Over $2000 in all he spent that the bank reimbursed me for.

                                                                                                              B&A as a matter of fact.



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                                                                                                                • Kimmykim
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                                                                                                                  • Jun 2001
                                                                                                                  • 16015
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Actually B of A gives me no trouble. They did suspend one of my accounts after our little binge in Vancouver, but that also included several nights stay of multiple hotel rooms at the Four, and dinner for 30 people at Fortes.

                                                                                                                  I talked to them on the phone when I got home and the card was back on about 10 minutes later...

                                                                                                                  They've never kept me from joining a porn site, they don't question my wires either.

                                                                                                                  And I don't think that Paycom processes for ifriends, though I could be wrong.

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                                                                                                                    • KRL
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                                                                                                                      • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                      • 31429
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      B of A = Bank of Assholes

                                                                                                                      I stopped using them years ago. And they came down to Florida and took over Barnett Banks which used to be so great and customer service oriented. Once B of A took over it was all downhill.
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                                                                                                                        • Fletch XXX
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                                                                                                                          • Jan 2002
                                                                                                                          • 60840
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          i cant walk into a B of A without wanting to hurt people.




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                                                                                                                            • psyko514
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                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Kimmykim
                                                                                                                              And I don't think that Paycom processes for ifriends, though I could be wrong.
                                                                                                                              Don't they do their own processing?

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                                                                                                                                • Kimmykim
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                                                                                                                                  • Jun 2001
                                                                                                                                  • 16015
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by psyko514


                                                                                                                                  Don't they do their own processing?
                                                                                                                                  Thats what I thought, thus I didnt understand a bank calling to verify a charge to an ipsp on an ifriends sale...

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                                                                                                                                    • psyko514
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                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Kimmykim

                                                                                                                                      Thats what I thought, thus I didnt understand a bank calling to verify a charge to an ipsp on an ifriends sale...
                                                                                                                                      dav555add has a history of posting bullshit... i'm surprised he'd make such a verifiable error.

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                                                                                                                                        • TheDoc
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                                                                                                                                          • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                                          • 13827
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          I use BofA and buy many different porn memberships and online items and have never had them call and ask me what was up.

                                                                                                                                          On every major processor and sites like babenet, ifriends, etc.

                                                                                                                                          The only time they killed my card is shortly after I moved back to the states and drove half way across the country. They called my cell phone to make sure it was me that was creating the charges.
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