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Was FalconFoto compliant ?
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I love it!
This is from their FAQ's page:
"Are the girls over 18: Yes we only shoot girls over the age of 18. We require 2 forms of identification from the girls as proof of age. We keep all records on file. You should post a ?custodian Of Records? notice on your site which gives our contact details incase a government agency wishes to check any documents. This notice is listed in the license."
Of course they have no such link on their site but hey.....Their info is listed in the sample of their license. I will add them to the list with the next update.Comment
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Hey Aaaaaaaaaaron can you check www.adultczechcontent.com
in menu on the left "2257 info"
also - put a link to www.adultczechcontent.com/main.htm under my button and keep it till May the 1st - I will wire you 100 bucksComment
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Your listing is updated.Originally posted by Nydahl
Hey Aaaaaaaaaaron can you check www.adultczechcontent.com
in menu on the left "2257 info"
also - put a link to www.adultczechcontent.com/main.htm under my button and keep it till May the 1st - I will wire you 100 bucks
Do you honestly think that you can buy my sig space for $100 per week?
Think again. My sig space is a hell of a lot more valuable than that. The various things offered in my sig are either somthing that I have a vested interest in or, in the case of ISPrime, somebody who has earned the additional exposure by providding the abusolute best service possible.
You can pay me for the exposure from this thread and my list by sending some money to a charity...I don't need it.Comment
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Thank you Aaron for fixing my list status so promptly. It sucks to be wrong, It sucks even more to be wrong and noted so on the web.Comment
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AaronM,
I believe this was an excellent attempt to bring light to 18US2257, but you obviously were not "backed by legal counsel" reason I know this is what attorney in thier right mind would ever advise you to POST a list like this. In my honest opinion you should remove it. Secondly there is no case law to effectively understand the law and how it would be enforced, to this extent who would want to "go down that path to find out?" Since we shoot some of our material in countries where "hardcore" porn is forbidden and also travel around to other countries we don't have to comply with 18USC2257. But since we sell to pussy magazines and also U.S. based customers we included / maintained all documentation and records in accordance with the law as advised by our attorney which we have been doing for over 10 years (most of those years to pussy magazines). And in each "zip" file was the proper 18USC2257 text file with the name of the person who is tasked as the custodian of record and address to his place of business. As for your list which we believe serves a good purpose just the wrong approach we have updated our site to point to the same text file that is in each zip file we send to our customers. As you can see in the post on 02/06/2003 use the link below we were asked about the same 18USC2257 by a potential customer and the user "Carrie" was nice enough to post the text file that was inside the content zip file so this is nothing new our customers have always been compliant and protection of not only ourselves but our customers has been our number one priority.
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=105330 (close to bottom of first page.)
Anyways you should really remove the list or at least reword the list to cover your ass. IMHOComment
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Case law for 2257. hereOriginally posted by sneaker
AaronM,
I believe this was an excellent attempt to bring light to 18US2257, but you obviously were not "backed by legal counsel" reason I know this is what attorney in thier right mind would ever advise you to POST a list like this. In my honest opinion you should remove it. Secondly there is no case law to effectively understand the law and how it would be enforced, to this extent who would want to "go down that path to find out?" Since we shoot some of our material in countries where "hardcore" porn is forbidden and also travel around to other countries we don't have to comply with 18USC2257. But since we sell to pussy magazines and also U.S. based customers we included / maintained all documentation and records in accordance with the law as advised by our attorney which we have been doing for over 10 years (most of those years to pussy magazines). And in each "zip" file was the proper 18USC2257 text file with the name of the person who is tasked as the custodian of record and address to his place of business. As for your list which we believe serves a good purpose just the wrong approach we have updated our site to point to the same text file that is in each zip file we send to our customers. As you can see in the post on 02/06/2003 use the link below we were asked about the same 18USC2257 by a potential customer and the user "Carrie" was nice enough to post the text file that was inside the content zip file so this is nothing new our customers have always been compliant and protection of not only ourselves but our customers has been our number one priority.
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=105330 (close to bottom of first page.)
Anyways you should really remove the list or at least reword the list to cover your ass. IMHO
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AaronM. How can you decide who is compliant and who is not. We provide our customers both with model's ID and Models Releases. You did not work with us, so you can not know if we are comliant or not.
Please change your information.Kira K. - Mixphoto.Com
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You obviously don't know the law. Read the thread.Originally posted by MixPhoto.Sales
AaronM. How can you decide who is compliant and who is not. We provide our customers both with model's ID and Models Releases. You did not work with us, so you can not know if we are comliant or not.
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thanks for updating manOriginally posted by AaronM
Your listing is updated.
Do you honestly think that you can buy my sig space for $100 per week?
Think again. My sig space is a hell of a lot more valuable than that. The various things offered in my sig are either somthing that I have a vested interest in or, in the case of ISPrime, somebody who has earned the additional exposure by providding the abusolute best service possible.
You can pay me for the exposure from this thread and my list by sending some money to a charity...I don't need it.
so seriously no , I still hope that its just a good joke from you.I would never offer you some 100 dirty bucks for your sig -
man now I see that you are defenitely not an idiot - You know some charity which accepts CCs ?- its problem to send out money from here.Just give me a link to and I wll do it
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I didnt see Cloud9Content up on that page....
the records required pursuant to 18 U.S.C. Û2257 and C.F.R. 75 are kept by the custodian of records, ben mizrahi, c/o the law offices of Jeffery Sklan, 18840 Ventura Blvd Suite 216, Tarzana, Ca 91356
link to 2257 Info can be found right on the front page..
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So...Sue me.Originally posted by sneaker
AaronM,
I believe this was an excellent attempt to bring light to 18US2257, but you obviously were not "backed by legal counsel" reason I know this is what attorney in thier right mind would ever advise you to POST a list like this. In my honest opinion you should remove it.
Anyways you should really remove the list or at least reword the list to cover your ass. IMHO
I am not removing the list.Comment
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You have such a way with people.Originally posted by AaronM
So...Sue me.
I am not removing the list.
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How can I decide? Because the law is black and white. You are NOT following the law. Fuck off.Originally posted by MixPhoto.Sales
AaronM. How can you decide who is compliant and who is not. We provide our customers both with model's ID and Models Releases. You did not work with us, so you can not know if we are comliant or not.
Please change your information.Comment
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That would not make you compliant... the records must be kept at YOUR place of business.. and unless you are doing business from your lawyer's office, you are not in compliance.Originally posted by media
I didnt see Cloud9Content up on that page....
the records required pursuant to 18 U.S.C. Û2257 and C.F.R. 75 are kept by the custodian of records, ben mizrahi, c/o the law offices of Jeffery Sklan, 18840 Ventura Blvd Suite 216, Tarzana, Ca 91356
link to 2257 Info can be found right on the front page..
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Does your ICQ work?Originally posted by media
I didnt see Cloud9Content up on that page....
the records required pursuant to 18 U.S.C. Û2257 and C.F.R. 75 are kept by the custodian of records, ben mizrahi, c/o the law offices of Jeffery Sklan, 18840 Ventura Blvd Suite 216, Tarzana, Ca 91356
link to 2257 Info can be found right on the front page..
Media
I have added your listing.Comment
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I too shoot outside of the US, on occasion, but my base of opperations is located in the US. Guess what that means? I am required to follow the US laws. You have listed your business addy as in the US as well. This means that you Do have to comply with 18USC2257.Originally posted by sneaker
....Since we shoot some of our material in countries where "hardcore" porn is forbidden and also travel around to other countries we don't have to comply with 18USC2257. But since we sell to pussy magazines and also U.S. based customers we included / maintained all documentation and records in accordance with the law as advised by our attorney which we have been doing for over 10 years (most of those years to pussy magazines). And in each "zip" file was the proper 18USC2257 text file with the name of the person who is tasked as the custodian of record and address to his place of business.
Do yourself a favor and do not question me about this law.Comment
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In his defense...He is not required to follow this law....But as a US webmaster who is invloved with Asian sites, I can assure you that we will not be purchasing any content from him as long as he remains non-compliant.Originally posted by AaronM
How can I decide? Because the law is black and white. You are NOT following the law. Fuck off.Comment
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I cant believe some of the posts ive read regarding 2257. how anyone residing in the US can argue or ignore 2257 is fucking nuts..
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are you talking to yourself again?Originally posted by AaronM
In his defense...He is not required to follow this law....But as a US webmaster who is invloved with Asian sites, I can assure you that we will not be purchasing any content from him as long as he remains non-compliant.Comment
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You can send it to the Masked Man Wish FoundationOriginally posted by AaronM
You can pay me for the exposure from this thread and my list by sending some money to a charity...I don't need it.
Arguing about this list, or whether or not your compliant = GUILTY!!
If you gotta raise so much hell over this list, all it does is point out your guilt to everyone else... and puts a spotlight on you.. know what people think when they see that spotlight? "Don't buy content from them!"
Why be stupid?? If you're not compliant, get it fixed and go about your business. What the hell?? Is this an ADULT message board or a TEENAGER message board??
So you screwed up, you were caught.... get over it! Fix the damn thing and shut yer pie holes already!
For those of you that saw that you weren't and got it fixed right away, I salute you... you've earned a lot of respect from a lot of people by doing so
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Originally posted by MaskedMan
shut yer pie holes already!
mmmmm, pie
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Now see what you did ? You got Aaron to list on the web that Cloud9Content is an illegal content provider.Originally posted by media
I didnt see Cloud9Content up on that page....
the records required pursuant to 18 U.S.C. Û2257 and C.F.R. 75 are kept by the custodian of records, ben mizrahi, c/o the law offices of Jeffery Sklan, 18840 Ventura Blvd Suite 216, Tarzana, Ca 91356
link to 2257 Info can be found right on the front page..
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some people don't know when to shut up I guessOriginally posted by Brujah
Now see what you did ? You got Aaron to list on the web that Cloud9Content is an illegal content provider.Comment
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I don't see MaxPixels on the list. Are they compliant?Comment
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You mean like everyone who went attacking Aaron instead of just fixin their $hit?Originally posted by baddog
some people don't know when to shut up I guess
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well, that and people that make posts like media did about Cloud9Originally posted by MaskedMan
You mean like everyone who went attacking Aaron instead of just fixin their $hit?
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Yeah, I know... but still, isn't it good to point out the ones that aren't compliant? I mean, especially if you have bought content from them?Originally posted by baddog
well, that and people that make posts like media did about Cloud9
Ok, maybe not point out.. but at least ask if they are? It's not really so much exposing them as it is covering your own ass.Comment
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well, seeing as how it is law, I guess soOriginally posted by MaskedMan
Yeah, I know... but still, isn't it good to point out the ones that aren't compliant? I mean, especially if you have bought content from them?
Ok, maybe not point out.. but at least ask if they are? It's not really so much exposing them as it is covering your own ass.
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I think people should leave the lawyering to the lawyers.Originally posted by MaskedMan
Yeah, I know... but still, isn't it good to point out the ones that aren't compliant? I mean, especially if you have bought content from them?
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Well, I had someone contact me today to broker their stuff.. They shoot Russian girls but hadn't even heard of Title 18 USC 2257. Anyhow, long story short, he doesn't maintain the proper records so we won't be brokering for them. He says there's other brokers who will be happy to sell his content. How scary is that?Free agentComment
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Well, if you're just out to make galleries or some other designs and go buy some content... wouldn't you want to know if the person you just bought it off of is compliant?Originally posted by Brujah
I think people should leave the lawyering to the lawyers.
If you're not sure they're compliant... wouldn't it be prudent to ask? And if you could ask someone out right instead of paying $150/hour or more just to ask a lawyer.... why wouldn't you?Comment
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There is a lawyer that pops on here every now and again. Seems like a good guyOriginally posted by Brujah
I think people should leave the lawyering to the lawyers.
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where would People's Court be with that attitude?Originally posted by Brujah
I think people should leave the lawyering to the lawyers.Comment
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I love that show. I think we should make Aaron the baliff.Originally posted by baddog
where would People's Court be with that attitude?Free agentComment
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Considering the statements of several webmasters regarding 2257, I don't think anyone cares. You're talking to yourself.Originally posted by MaskedMan
Well, if you're just out to make galleries or some other designs and go buy some content... wouldn't you want to know if the person you just bought it off of is compliant?
If you're not sure they're compliant... wouldn't it be prudent to ask? And if you could ask someone out right instead of paying $150/hour or more just to ask a lawyer.... why wouldn't you?Free agentComment
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well, if I understand correctly, there are some content providers that are not subject to 2257, correct? Wouldn't Russia be one of those places?Originally posted by jact
Well, I had someone contact me today to broker their stuff.. They shoot Russian girls but hadn't even heard of Title 18 USC 2257. Anyhow, long story short, he doesn't maintain the proper records so we won't be brokering for them. He says there's other brokers who will be happy to sell his content. How scary is that?
I am just asking, as I will admit I don't know all the ins and outs of it.Comment
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I guess... pretty much.Originally posted by jact
Considering the statements of several webmasters regarding 2257, I don't think anyone cares. You're talking to yourself.
It's sad. A bunch'a lame wad, lazy ass butt munchers who just don't wanna put in the 3 seconds it takes to actually care about the law are gonna give other dickwads like Bush and his storm troopers the ammo they need to make this entire business a very unstable place to be
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So all those people who have Cloud9Content should stop using it, and not buy from them because they're not compliant according to the interpretation of the law ?Originally posted by MaskedMan
Well, if you're just out to make galleries or some other designs and go buy some content... wouldn't you want to know if the person you just bought it off of is compliant?
If you're not sure they're compliant... wouldn't it be prudent to ask? And if you could ask someone out right instead of paying $150/hour or more just to ask a lawyer.... why wouldn't you?
So then, by also maintaining editorial control over the list.. it is stating that we are covered if we purchase from those certified as compliant. The list maker is liable.- Free Premium Domain Lists and Tools at Clickmojo.com
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Well, see.. Say you're baddog, content purchaser. You live in California, land of the free, land of the fair and land of 2257. You buy said content off of this person not subject to 2257 who isn't compliant with 2257. What do you think happens when you say "Oh, well here's the website that I bought the content on" but there's no 2257 notice, and the documents are in fact not in order if they do track them down? baddog content purchaser isn't going to be happy, now is he?Originally posted by baddog
well, if I understand correctly, there are some content providers that are not subject to 2257, correct? Wouldn't Russia be one of those places?
I am just asking, as I will admit I don't know all the ins and outs of it.Free agentComment
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One would think that if you were shopping using that list as a guide, you would at least make your own informed decision weather they were in fact compliant or not.Originally posted by Brujah
So all those people who have Cloud9Content should stop using it, and not buy from them because they're not compliant according to the interpretation of the law ?
So then, by also maintaining editorial control over the list.. it is stating that we are covered if we purchase from those certified as compliant. The list maker is liable.
Unable to make an informed decision? McD's is hiring.Free agentComment
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if you knew how to spell we could make you the stenographerOriginally posted by jact
I love that show. I think we should make Aaron the baliff.
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I don't need to be able to spell. That's why I have a spellchecker. I just need to port it to my browser.Originally posted by XxXotic
if you knew how to spell we could make you the stenographer
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you make me whet mr complianceOriginally posted by jact
I don't need to be able to spell. That's why I have a spellchecker. I just need to port it to my browser.Oxeo - Serious Hosting For Serious Webmasters. iCQ:135.887013Comment
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are you thinking of Night Court? He reminds me of the bailiff in that showOriginally posted by jact
I love that show. I think we should make Aaron the baliff.Comment
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What does "the list" have to do with it? You're either compliant or not... legal or not. If the list says you are or not, doesn't matter. If it says you are... and you're not compliant after all... do you think the judge will say "oh, AaronM didn't update his list... so we'll let you go" ???Originally posted by Brujah
So all those people who have Cloud9Content should stop using it, and not buy from them because they're not compliant according to the interpretation of the law ?
So then, by also maintaining editorial control over the list.. it is stating that we are covered if we purchase from those certified as compliant. The list maker is liable.
Please.... you take this way to personally. If Cloud9 isn't compliant... regardless of if they're on a list... than no, you shouldn't buy their content. But hey, like you said... leave the lawyering to the laywers while you're in court and you're trying to explain that you didn't really know that you were buying content from a supplier that wasn't compliant
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No, I'm not thinking of Bull from Nightcourt. Though I think I see some family resemblance. People's Court owns!Originally posted by baddog
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