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  • sickkittens
    I am a meat popsicle.
    • Jul 2002
    • 25100

    #1

    starting a paysite... setting up w/ ibill, ccbill, pros? cons?

    For those that have your own pay sites. What are the pros and cons of ibill, ccbill , and some of the others? Which have setup fees? Which are free?

    Any problems with certain ones?

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  • Rictor
    Old Timer
    • Jan 2001
    • 12208

    #2
    Ibill and CCBill have a $750 VISA fee. Not that big of a deal.

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    • PatrickM
      Confirmed User
      • Nov 2002
      • 772

      #3
      I can tell only good things about CCbill(eu) and GloBill. I am using both and their customer service is really great and checks arriving on time. I didn't have to pay any setup fees.

      No problems so far...

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      • max.yambo
        Confirmed User
        • Mar 2003
        • 218

        #4
        sickkittens,

        contact me via icq. we charge $195 setup fee (you can pay after you start processing). you don't have to pay $750. our merchant discount rate is 8%. we payout each 10 days. thanks.
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        Yambo Financials Ltd.
        <b>ICQ 111225</b>

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        • gothweb
          Confirmed User
          • Jun 2002
          • 8849

          #5
          Okay, CCBill etc. charge $750 for Visa, but other than that never charged a setup fee that I know of. So why in the world does Yambo charge $195?

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          • xxxinnovations
            Confirmed User
            • Jan 2002
            • 1181

            #6
            pswbilling is free... i think.
            they're also one of my favorite processors along with jettis for my sites.

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            • EscortBiz
              Fuck Checks, CASH only!
              • May 2002
              • 19422

              #7
              Originally posted by gothweb
              Okay, CCBill etc. charge $750 for Visa, but other than that never charged a setup fee that I know of. So why in the world does Yambo charge $195?
              Companies can charge setup fees for a service.

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              • sickkittens
                I am a meat popsicle.
                • Jul 2002
                • 25100

                #8
                So CCBill and iBill are free if I only want to accept M/C & Discover?

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                • max.yambo
                  Confirmed User
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 218

                  #9
                  We charge setup fee just to avoid customers who just want to signup - this process takes a little time. That is not that big amount of money to be scared of I think if you really need a processing solution
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                  • chupacabra
                    Confirmed User
                    • Sep 2002
                    • 3626

                    #10
                    Ibill and CCBill have a $750 VISA fee. Not that big of a deal.
                    keep in mind that ccBill *refunds* the $750 VISA fine back to you over the course of a few pay periods... iBill does not..
                    ...promise her a defamation, tell her where the rain will fall..

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                    • gothweb
                      Confirmed User
                      • Jun 2002
                      • 8849

                      #11
                      Originally posted by EscortBiz


                      Companies can charge setup fees for a service.
                      Yes, I understand that. It just doesn't seem very competitive. "We're not Visa compliant, so we only charge $200 setup instead of $750"?

                      Originally posted by max.yambo
                      We charge setup fee just to avoid customers who just want to signup - this process takes a little time. That is not that big amount of money to be scared of I think if you really need a processing solution
                      Oh, I agree it isn't a ton of money. I just think people will decide to go elsewhere. Personally, I'd think most would gravitate to the safety of total Visa complaince, or to someone with *no* setup fee.

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                      • max.yambo
                        Confirmed User
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 218

                        #12
                        gothweb,

                        Sure you would. Unless you're running a small paysite, right?
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                        • lagwagon
                          Confirmed User
                          • Jul 2001
                          • 8464

                          #13
                          well ccbill has six letters in their name and that is always a good thing. the bigger the better right ladies?

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                          • max.yambo
                            Confirmed User
                            • Mar 2003
                            • 218

                            #14
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                            • gothweb
                              Confirmed User
                              • Jun 2002
                              • 8849

                              #15
                              Originally posted by max.yambo
                              gothweb,

                              Sure you would. Unless you're running a small paysite, right?
                              Hmm? People with small ones would go to the no-setup processors, people with big business won't mind the $750. I'm not sure I see who would choose $200 and a shaky situation with Visa down the road.

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                              • max.yambo
                                Confirmed User
                                • Mar 2003
                                • 218

                                #16
                                gothweb,


                                I think ppl with small ones would go with no-setup processor, ppl with middle ones would go with ccbill, ibill, yambo or whatever and ppl with big ones would get their own merchant account where they would be charged like 4.5%
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                                Yambo Financials Ltd.
                                <b>ICQ 111225</b>

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                                • max.yambo
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Mar 2003
                                  • 218

                                  #17
                                  Btw we can skip the setup fee if it really matters. Like I said - this fee is just to make sure the deal is serious.
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                                  Yambo Financials Ltd.
                                  <b>ICQ 111225</b>

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                                  • Brujah
                                    Beer Money Baron
                                    • Jan 2001
                                    • 22157

                                    #18
                                    ACPay
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                                    • Hansm
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Jun 2002
                                      • 871

                                      #19
                                      Peeps, Yambo is the best, Im using them already for 5 months now and really i cant say anything more but they have EVERYTHING what a webmasters needs.

                                      I can accept paypal payments, i can accept creditcard, and western union and alot more.

                                      And they are offering nice support the whole day too.

                                      My point for yambo is a ten and for the rest a five, why?

                                      CCBill.: 750$ to accept visa
                                      IBill.: 750$ to accept visa
                                      PSWBilling.: Needs a european company anotherwise no visa

                                      i didt try out the rest (ACPay,Verotel and some more), but i like yambo and will continue to use yambo and yambo is offering a realtime interface and verify options for creditcards and alot more.

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                                      • Shoplifter
                                        Richest man in Babylon
                                        • Jan 2002
                                        • 5880

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Hansm
                                        Peeps, Yambo is the best, Im using them already for 5 months now and really i cant say anything more but they have EVERYTHING what a webmasters needs.

                                        I can accept paypal payments, i can accept creditcard, and western union and alot more.

                                        Yambo looks interesting...I got a new site going up May 20 still without a biller decided.

                                        What are the holdbacks with Yambo? What is their scrub? What cards do they not process (asian, korean, etc). Do they wire or pay by check?

                                        And what about affiliates?
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                                        • Hansm
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Jun 2002
                                          • 871

                                          #21
                                          Yambo is a offshore bank too, your funds will be there, you can order a maestro card for 20$ or a cirrus card for 20$ or a mastercard for 50$, nice options and offcourse wire transfer, western union, paypal, etc.

                                          you need to talk to max about the holdbacks and the rest, i think the are differnt per site dont know, but my holdback is 10%

                                          if you dont have a yambo account yet signup at
                                          http://www.yambo.biz?ref=65878
                                          and use my refferer id if you want.

                                          just sign up at the above url and you will get access to a offshore bank account for free, no charges, there are only charges if you order something a debitcard, etc.

                                          im not spamming here but helping this guy so please dont say im spamming, i just want to earn 1 cent lol.

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                                          • The Click
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Apr 2003
                                            • 1685

                                            #22
                                            see sig - No VISA Fees.


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                                            • max.yambo
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Mar 2003
                                              • 218

                                              #23
                                              Hansm, thanks


                                              Shoplifter,

                                              What are the holdbacks with Yambo? What is their scrub? What cards do they not process (asian, korean, etc). Do they wire or pay by check?
                                              And what about affiliates?
                                              Merchant discount rate - 8%
                                              Holdback reserve - 10% for 180 days.
                                              We approve 75%
                                              We payout each 10 days to your yambo a/c. Then you can transfer money wherever you want.

                                              Anyways - contact me for details and affiliate program.
                                              Thanks.
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                                              Max Bugaenko
                                              Yambo Financials Ltd.
                                              <b>ICQ 111225</b>

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                                              • Rui
                                                web
                                                • Dec 2001
                                                • 9533

                                                #24
                                                But care to explain why with yambo we don't pay the visa fee?

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                                                • corvette
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Oct 2001
                                                  • 7880

                                                  #25
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                                                  • Cindyff
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Sep 2002
                                                    • 1187

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by sickkittens
                                                    For those that have your own pay sites. What are the pros and cons of ibill, ccbill , and some of the others? Which have setup fees? Which are free?

                                                    Any problems with certain ones?
                                                    Ask yourself one question are you ( FEELING LUCKY PUNK) ( sorry couldn't resist ) in this for the long run or are you just playing. If you want to make real $$$ and be here in 5 or even 10 years time then go with one or both of the top two processors Epoch (Paycom) or CCBill, As these guys are here for the long haul and your money will be safe. Don't use IBill even if they give you $2000 to sign up it will be the worst mistake you ever make. Decide if you are serious and spend the $750 eventually all non compliant companies will lose Visa and as they make up 80% plus of many sites sale you need them, at least for now.

                                                    Cindy xx

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                                                    • beemk
                                                      CLICK HERE
                                                      • Jan 2002
                                                      • 20829

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by max.yambo
                                                      We charge setup fee just to avoid customers who just want to signup - this process takes a little time. That is not that big amount of money to be scared of I think if you really need a processing solution
                                                      ok, so its only fair to refund the $ after they start using it a lot... right?
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                                                      • assistant27
                                                        So Fucking Banned
                                                        • Mar 2003
                                                        • 256

                                                        #28
                                                        oxbill.com and websitebilling.com are the best!!

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                                                        • inthestars
                                                          Registered User
                                                          • Sep 2002
                                                          • 2021

                                                          #29
                                                          Use Verotel, see my signature.. no $750 signup fees involved!!

                                                          You have your choice of credit cards, checks, or 900 numbers (both USA and elsewhere in the world)..

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                                                          • BiggleJones
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Dec 2002
                                                            • 2276

                                                            #30
                                                            Epoch are really badass guys to work with.

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                                                            • StacyCat
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • May 2002
                                                              • 1167

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by chupacabra


                                                              keep in mind that ccBill *refunds* the $750 VISA fine back to you over the course of a few pay periods... iBill does not..
                                                              CCBill is only doing the refunding for current customers, and those that sign up before May 1st. After that, no more refunds.

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                                                              • max.yambo
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Mar 2003
                                                                • 218

                                                                #32
                                                                But care to explain why with yambo we don't pay the visa
                                                                fee?
                                                                Rui,

                                                                Because we do not setup new merchant accounts for your businesses. We process transactions through our accounts. That's why you don't have to pay $750.
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                                                                Yambo Financials Ltd.
                                                                <b>ICQ 111225</b>

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                                                                • max.yambo
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Mar 2003
                                                                  • 218

                                                                  #33
                                                                  ok, so its only fair to refund the $ after they start using it a lot... right?
                                                                  beemk,

                                                                  We can arrange that if necessary
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                                                                  Yambo Financials Ltd.
                                                                  <b>ICQ 111225</b>

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                                                                  • Dawgy
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Jul 2001
                                                                    • 5856

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by max.yambo
                                                                    Because we do not setup new merchant accounts for your businesses. We process transactions through our accounts. That's why you don't have to pay $750.
                                                                    isnt that what all other billers do unless u specifically ask for a merchant account?
                                                                    the revolution is coming.

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                                                                    • max.yambo
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Mar 2003
                                                                      • 218

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Dawgy,

                                                                      Yes you're right. But we don't setup that kind of merchant accounts like ibill does. If the client wants -- we can help with getting his own merchant account. But it's a little different from $750 accounts. It costs alot more.
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                                                                      Yambo Financials Ltd.
                                                                      <b>ICQ 111225</b>

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