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Why not have a color code or icon to pick out the ones that are subject to 2257, but don't comply.
Also, why not step back a bit and say "in my opinion, according to my understanding of my attorney's appraisal of 2257 law. It can't hurt to give yourself a little leeway when saying "these are my competitors who are breakign the law."
Your statements as to who has been reviewed, and who is compliant, make it sound like you are representing the opinions of a legal authority. You aren't.
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Done.Originally posted by SinEmpire
How about checking http://www.amateur-cutie-content.com and http://www.rockbottomcontent.com both good companies by my experience they might as well be on your list.
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Valid points. I will take this into consideration. Thank you.Originally posted by gothweb
Why not have a color code or icon to pick out the ones that are subject to 2257, but don't comply.
Also, why not step back a bit and say "in my opinion, according to my understanding of my attorney's appraisal of 2257 law. It can't hurt to give yourself a little leeway when saying "these are my competitors who are breakign the law."
Your statements as to who has been reviewed, and who is compliant, make it sound like you are representing the opinions of a legal authority. You aren't.Comment
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Ive done business with Rock Bottom.
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Thanks for adding Broadband Babes, Aaron.
I wonder if all these companies will get compliant after this.Comment
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Hopefully they will. Many already have since the list was posted. I posted the same thread to 5 or so boards and my ICQ, email, and phone have been going off ever since.Originally posted by RATBOY
Thanks for adding Broadband Babes, Aaron.
I wonder if all these companies will get compliant after this.Comment
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Considering this is something that you're not obliged to do.. in effect you are "helping" the competition, I think you've gone above and beyond the call of duty AaronOriginally posted by AaronM
Hopefully they will. Many already have since the list was posted. I posted the same thread to 5 or so boards and my ICQ, email, and phone have been going off ever since.
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In a country so attorney/litigation scared and a business that is targetted by every do gooder with 5 minutes to spare I do not understand why any US website, webmaster does not absolutely insist on getting the 2257 documents with every purchase.
Forget 2257 it's rarely enforced, usually just added in with the other charges. Here are three scenarios that can and have happened and why you need the 2257 documentation.
(1) The police turn up at your door and ask if you have the proof of age of XZY girl as they have recieved a complaint she is under age.
Option one.
Go to the filing cabinet and show it to them
Option two
Your wife, mother, partner is emailing the content provider while the police are putting you into a cell with your new friends. The local chapter of Hells Angels. The police are telling them why you are there. Pass the lube...
(2)
You recieve a writ from an attorney, it seems the content on your site was taken by a boyfriend and the girl had no intention of selling it.
Option one
You fax the attorney the model release, IDs and contract and tell him you will see him in court.
Option two
You contact your attorney by phone and start paying $400 an hour from the second he answers his phone.
(3)
You get an email from the shooter or worse still APIC saying the content on your site is illegal.
Option one
Email them back the documents and ask how come this is.
Option two
Start driving a taxi for a living.
So I made a bit of a joke about a serious matter, but did the message get through?
Aarron
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All sorted. http://www.cutecontent.comOriginally posted by AaronM
Cool, now ya just gotta make it compliant.
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Aaron.. Porn Police.. I heard Ashhahahahaha is hiring.
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Thanks for adding me. It's good to be validated. ;)
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UH...Because the law does not require that. Not only that...BUT...Depending on how the law is read, the webmaster may not even be a secondary producer so them posting their own info may not be 100% compliant.Originally posted by charly
In a country so attorney/litigation scared and a business that is targetted by every do gooder with 5 minutes to spare I do not understand why any US website, webmaster does not absolutely insist on getting the 2257 documents with every purchase.Comment
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Don't be a dick to me just because you guys are not compliant. Fix it and I will update your listing.Originally posted by J.R.
Aaron.. Porn Police.. I heard Ashhahahahaha is hiring.
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Your call. I think you should read my previous post on this though.Originally posted by stocktrader23
While this thread is here I figured I'd ask.
When I buy content and use it for a website is it OK just to link to the 2257 info of the provider?
And how many TGP submitters aren't compliant?
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But what about the rest of the reasons, none of them to do with 2257?Originally posted by AaronM
UH...Because the law does not require that. Not only that...BUT...Depending on how the law is read, the webmaster may not even be a secondary producer so them posting their own info may not be 100% compliant.
Or are you just waiting for me to reply, another DVD player in the post??Comment
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Oh, and BTW....Since we are a client of yours, I would personally request that you comply with the law or we will be forced to remove your feeds.Originally posted by J.R.
Aaron.. Porn Police.. I heard Ashhahahahaha is hiring.
Any questions?Comment
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Owned, anyone? :POriginally posted by AaronM
Oh, and BTW....Since we are a client of yours, I would personally request that you comply with the law or we will be forced to remove your feeds.
Any questions?Comment
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I think that's the best kind of policing. Vote with your wallet, so to speak. That usually gets peoples' attention.Originally posted by AaronM
Oh, and BTW....Since we are a client of yours, I would personally request that you comply with the law or we will be forced to remove your feeds.
Any questions?
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no offense but I wonder when or if an attorney has called threatning to sue you for listing a client on your list.Originally posted by AaronM
I posted the same thread to 5 or so boards and my ICQ, email, and phone have been going off ever since.
these days ya gotta be really carefull of making accusations.
good lookin out bro.
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What "accusation" would you be referring to? Checking to see if people comply with the LAW, and stating when they don't? That's neither untruthful nor libelous. It's fact. Period.Originally posted by jonesy
no offense but I wonder when or if an attorney has called threatning to sue you for your list.
these days ya gotta be really carefull of making accusations.
good lookin out bro.
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There are plenty of stupid attorneys out there who might try. Great idea though....Drag me into a court building where I can tell a judge about how their client is breaking Federal laws.Originally posted by jonesy
no offense but I wonder when or if an attorney has called threatning to sue you for listing a client on your list.
these days ya gotta be really carefull of making accusations.
good lookin out bro.
Yep...Dem be da smert ones.
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A very good point, how many brokers just list some shooter 7,000 miles away as the CoR. Very reassuring while the leader of the pack is eying your rear end. Read scenario (1) from above.Originally posted by jcnlv
I am curious to know how many of the content brokers out there have actually *seen* any of the custodian of records information from the producers they represent.
It is great that they give the name and address of the producer... but what are they doing to verify that information?
Does the broker need copies of all releases and IDs to be fully compliant? .... or can he just pass the responsibility down to the producer?... or worse yet, the producer's agent...
Does anyone know the U.S. law on this?Comment
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I didnt know youre a lawyer! Cool!Originally posted by AaronM
Drag me into a court building where I can tell a judge about how their client is breaking Federal laws..
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Officer Aaron.. I am adding the compliance back
onto the site.
Are you happy now ?
And for your information, it was up on the site
but was removed when we made some changes and
was forgotten about when we re uploaded to the server.Comment
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youve obviously never been to court regarding libel or slander. A friend of mine had a similar non-compliance list regarding a totally different subject matter and was sued. My friend won but it was a pain in the ass.Originally posted by LadyMischief
What "accusation" would you be referring to? Checking to see if people comply with the LAW, and stating when they don't? That's neither untruthful nor libelous. It's fact. Period.
Some of the companies listed arent american and dont have to adhere to american laws. That list can be misconstrued which then can give way to libel.
regarding america you can sue over spilled milk.
I do believe most reputable forgeign Content companies as well as American ones have model records on file, (what western country wouldnt have a law like that?) as most ive visited from that list have it in their licensing contracts but not veiwable on the site itself.
bottom line is: have your ass covered.
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Heh.. I'm not surprised your friend won. When someone murders someone, in front of witnesses, and someone from a newspaper prints it as fact (which it is) I'm sure the reporter could get sued too, since he's "damaging someone's reputation".Originally posted by jonesy
youve obviously never been to court regarding libel or slander. A friend of mine had a similar non-compliance list regarding a totally different subject matter and was sued. My friend won but it was a pain in the ass.
Some of the companies listed arent american and dont have to adhere to american laws. That list can be misconstrued which then can give way to libel.
I do believe most reputable forgeign Content companies have model records on file, (what western country wouldnt have a law like that?) as most ive visited from that list have it in their licensing contracts but not veiwable on the site itself.
bottom line is: have your ass covered.
And most reputable foreign content providers do adhere to 2257 laws. Why? Because the majority of their clients are American, and in order to protect their customers, who would essentially take the fall if they don't comply. If you want to keep a loyal customer base in ANY business, you must cater to their needs, whether or not you actually HAVE to. It's just damn good business sense, and for those on US soil who are webmasters, it's the LAW.Comment
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I don't even see my name listed one way or the other on that site. Hmmm.....Comment
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Originally posted by LadyMischief
" I'm sure the reporter could get sued too, since he's "damaging someone's reputation". .
check this out regarding nike
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...170/3vkqq.html.
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Where did I say I was a lawyer?Originally posted by jonesy
I didnt know youre a lawyer! Cool!
You are aware that people do testify in court, right?
Fuctard.
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Tell it to the judge.Originally posted by J.R.
Officer Aaron.. I am adding the compliance back
onto the site.
Are you happy now ?
And for your information, it was up on the site
but was removed when we made some changes and
was forgotten about when we re uploaded to the server.
Pretty important thing to be overlooked, wouldn't you agree?Comment
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Did you miss the post Aaron made about contacting him?Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
I don't even see my name listed one way or the other on that site. Hmmm..... Silly.. Icq him :P
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I was just about to post the same thing....only not as politely.Originally posted by LadyMischief
Did you miss the post Aaron made about contacting him? Silly.. Icq him :P
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The only thing I don't understand is why everybody feels so compelled to ask another content provider if they meet his requirements to be added to or checked off his list?Comment
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hey aaron I wasnt being an asshole when I posted that.Originally posted by AaronM
Where did I say I was a lawyer?
You are aware that people do testify in court, right?
Fuctard.
You just came off/read that way.
Fucktard? whatya 14?
fuckin lighten up bro..
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LOL...You are alright in my book.Originally posted by jonesy
hey aaron I wasnt being an asshole when I posted that.
You just came off/read that way.
Fucktard? whatya 14?
fuckin lighten up bro.
I love it when people can dish it out and take it as well.Comment
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Yeah, but I'm cute and I have boobs. I can get away with the whole polite thing :POriginally posted by AaronM
I was just about to post the same thing....only not as politely.
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Most likely because they did not consult with a competent attorney first and now they are getting a slap of reality in their face. The smart ones know it is better to fix it now then to be questioned by the Government later.Originally posted by JConway
The only thing I don't understand is why everybody feels so compelled to ask another content provider if they meet his requirements to be added to or checked off his list?
Then there are those who act like children and bitch when they are called out on the carpet. I will act like a child in return.
Ah, the fun of webmaster boards.
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dont give a fuck if im allright in your book.Originally posted by AaronM
LOL...You are alright in my book.
I love it when people can dish it out and take it as well.
but yea, its cool when peeps can snap on each other and still be cool!
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No shit........I am glad he has the time to worry about what OTHER content providers are doing......work must be a little slow these days.Originally posted by JConway
The only thing I don't understand is why everybody feels so compelled to ask another content provider if they meet his requirements to be added to or checked off his list?Last edited by jreaka; 04-23-2003, 11:48 AM.Comment
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Cool...Let me know when you are compliant with the law and I will change your listing.Originally posted by J.R.
Officer Aaron.. I am adding the compliance back
onto the site.
Are you happy now ?
And for your information, it was up on the site
but was removed when we made some changes and
was forgotten about when we re uploaded to the server.
Anybody else see a problem here?
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Looks like we understand each other perfectly.Originally posted by jonesy
dont give a fuck if im allright in your book.
but yea, its cool when peeps can snap on each other and still be cool!
Fuck you very much.
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Thanks for the free advertisingOriginally posted by AaronM
Cool...Let me know when you are compliant with the law and I will change your listing.
Anybody else see a problem here?
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NO PO BOX addy allowed
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Ingornant fool.Originally posted by jreaka
No shit........I am glad he has the time to worry about what OTHER content providers are doing......work must be a little slow these days.
If work was slow then one might think that I would have updated my content site at least once in the last year.
Sorry if it offends some of you stupid fuckers that I am trying to make sure that YOU, as a possible client of these companies, have your ass covered as well.
I love it when the uneducated speak.
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Originally posted by FetishTemptress
NO PO BOX addy allowed
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The P.O. BOX THE P.O BOX!!!!!
What do I win?
I think we will stick with what our LAWYER has to say.......not our lord and savior AaronMComment
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No offense but you are one annoying fucker.
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