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  • Amputate Your Head
    There can be only one
    • Aug 2001
    • 39075

    #101
    Who the fuck made you judge and jury ?
    my question as well
    SIG TOO BIG

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    • AaronM
      GFY Royality ;)
      • Oct 2001
      • 46917

      #102
      100 BIATCH!

      Edit...Damn you AMP!

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      • asuna
        Confirmed User
        • May 2002
        • 8743

        #103
        ahahahah your late!
        btw you coming to montreal?

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        • AaronM
          GFY Royality ;)
          • Oct 2001
          • 46917

          #104
          Originally posted by asuna
          ahahahah your late!
          btw you coming to montreal?
          I was planning on it but now I am not so sure.

          50/50 chance of it.

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          • asuna
            Confirmed User
            • May 2002
            • 8743

            #105
            Originally posted by AaronM


            I was planning on it but now I am not so sure.

            50/50 chance of it.
            Why not?

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            • RottenPug
              Confirmed User
              • Oct 2002
              • 456

              #106
              Aaron M

              You know the thing that's funny is I can't seem to find anywhere on your site and research http://www.ultimatefeeds.com Funny how you wouldn't list this site. Hmmmmm wonder who owns it. You fucking suck ass

              ok you mindless twit where is www.deeporalgirls.com and the rest that you left out from http://adult-contentprovider.com

              You went about this wrong, a simple email with a heads up would have a worked. Maybe spend more time doing research and less time eating and you will be as thorough as you want all of us to be.

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              • boneprone
                Hall Of Fame
                • Jan 2001
                • 34415

                #107
                Great Post Aaron.

                Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones
                Bow to the Power - Still BP4L
                http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame
                Learn about it kids.

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                • Drake
                  Hello world!
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 12508

                  #108
                  Aaron, super job! You've obviously put a lot of work into this and it's of great benefit to everybody who buys content.

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                  • asuna
                    Confirmed User
                    • May 2002
                    • 8743

                    #109
                    Originally posted by Mike33
                    Aaron, super job! You've obviously put a lot of work into this and it's of great benefit to everybody who buys content.
                    Hye Aaron, your not going to post Manny's content company?

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                    • jcnlv
                      Registered User
                      • Aug 2002
                      • 55

                      #110
                      I am curious to know how many of the content brokers out there have actually *seen* any of the custodian of records information from the producers they represent.

                      It is great that they give the name and address of the producer... but what are they doing to verify that information?

                      Does the broker need copies of all releases and IDs to be fully compliant? .... or can he just pass the responsibility down to the producer?... or worse yet, the producer's agent...

                      Does anyone know the U.S. law on this?
                      SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

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                      • MichaelAncher
                        Confirmed User
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 742

                        #111
                        So Aaron !
                        Check out my info site ( bottom ) hope that's to your liking.
                        "kinda"...
                        GlamourGirls...HQ 2257 Compliant Glamour Photo and Video Content, for Web - Mobile and TV !!



                        Profiles: XBIZ - AdultWhosWho | ICQ 179004915

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                        • The Other Sweetie
                          Confirmed User
                          • Apr 2003
                          • 453

                          #112
                          Unless I overlooked something, David Lace's Title 18 info is only accessible after you log in to their site, but you've got them listed as compliant.
                          2257 has to be prominently displayed on the website...which means it must be readily available without registering or logging in, correct?
                          So am I on crack or what?

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                          • asuna
                            Confirmed User
                            • May 2002
                            • 8743

                            #113
                            danm 2257Compliant.com is taken.. would of been a great resource site..

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                            • Brujah
                              Beer Money Baron
                              • Jan 2001
                              • 22157

                              #114
                              My content provider stole my wife, my dog, and my truck. Can't trust 'em, but he did have his 2257. Bastard.

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                              • Fletch XXX
                                GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!!
                                • Jan 2002
                                • 60840

                                #115
                                just wanted to post on page 3.


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                                • AaronM
                                  GFY Royality ;)
                                  • Oct 2001
                                  • 46917

                                  #116
                                  Originally posted by RottenPug
                                  Aaron M

                                  You know the thing that's funny is I can't seem to find anywhere on your site and research http://www.ultimatefeeds.com Funny how you wouldn't list this site. Hmmmmm wonder who owns it. You fucking suck ass

                                  ok you mindless twit where is www.deeporalgirls.com and the rest that you left out from http://adult-contentprovider.com

                                  You went about this wrong, a simple email with a heads up would have a worked. Maybe spend more time doing research and less time eating and you will be as thorough as you want all of us to be.
                                  Fuck off cry baby.

                                  Did you fix your site yet?

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                                  • Steve
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Feb 2001
                                    • 6894

                                    #117
                                    Originally posted by Fletch XXX
                                    just wanted to post on page 3.

                                    salute

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                                    • Steve
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Feb 2001
                                      • 6894

                                      #118
                                      Originally posted by AaronM


                                      Fuck off cry baby.

                                      Did you fix your site yet?
                                      by fix, do you mean add more exit consoles?

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                                      • quiet
                                        we'll miss you our friend. RIP
                                        • Sep 2001
                                        • 25115

                                        #119
                                        Originally posted by Fletch XXX
                                        just wanted to post on page 3.

                                        we'll miss you our friend. RIP

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                                        • ry0t
                                          So Fucking Banned
                                          • Feb 2003
                                          • 4160

                                          #120
                                          Originally posted by The Other Sweetie
                                          Unless I overlooked something, David Lace's Title 18 info is only accessible after you log in to their site, but you've got them listed as compliant.
                                          2257 has to be prominently displayed on the website...which means it must be readily available without registering or logging in, correct?
                                          So am I on crack or what?
                                          BUSTED! Aaron are you choosing favorites?


                                          edit: why isnt matrix content on the list?

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                                          • asuna
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • May 2002
                                            • 8743

                                            #121
                                            Originally posted by quiet


                                            let's get as many glugg glugg's quoted here

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                                            • pornJester
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Mar 2001
                                              • 6138

                                              #122
                                              hey Aaron, fix the link to http://www.adult-contentprovider.com on your page!

                                              lol, and it took me almost to the end of this thread to realize that was the list from my site


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                                              • Brujah
                                                Beer Money Baron
                                                • Jan 2001
                                                • 22157

                                                #123
                                                Don't forget to label FalconFoto as an illegal content provider too. Gail will be so pleased she may even call you personally.

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                                                • ry0t
                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                  • Feb 2003
                                                  • 4160

                                                  #124
                                                  Originally posted by ry0t


                                                  BUSTED! Aaron are you choosing favorites?


                                                  edit: why isnt matrix content on the list?
                                                  edit2: oh wait matrix is. sorry

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                                                  • AaronM
                                                    GFY Royality ;)
                                                    • Oct 2001
                                                    • 46917

                                                    #125
                                                    Originally posted by MichaelAncher
                                                    So Aaron !
                                                    Check out my info site ( bottom ) hope that's to your liking.
                                                    "kinda"...
                                                    LOL.

                                                    Taken care of.

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                                                    • AaronM
                                                      GFY Royality ;)
                                                      • Oct 2001
                                                      • 46917

                                                      #126
                                                      Originally posted by ry0t


                                                      BUSTED! Aaron are you choosing favorites?


                                                      edit: why isnt matrix content on the list?
                                                      Matrix is on the page.

                                                      As for David Lace...I actually chatted with David a little while I was making this list. The fact is that the info is well displayed in his site. As mentioned before...I am not being that picky.

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                                                      • asuna
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • May 2002
                                                        • 8743

                                                        #127
                                                        So.. manny's site will NOT be posted?

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                                                        • AaronM
                                                          GFY Royality ;)
                                                          • Oct 2001
                                                          • 46917

                                                          #128
                                                          Originally posted by asuna
                                                          So.. manny's site will NOT be posted?
                                                          Who the fuck is Manny?

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                                                          • Olivier
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Mar 2003
                                                            • 656

                                                            #129
                                                            Glad to see I'm on the list and 2257 compliant!


                                                            Cheers!

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                                                            • theking
                                                              Nice Kitty
                                                              • Sep 2002
                                                              • 21053

                                                              #130
                                                              AaronM or others...

                                                              I have a question. I have this posted on an AVS site.

                                                              All girls herein are 18 years of age or older.
                                                              By entering this site you swear that you are of legal age in your area to view adult material and that you wish to view such material.
                                                              Records required pursuant to 18 U.S.C. § 2257 are held by the Webmaster of this site or the sponsors of this site.

                                                              I do not know if all sponsors are compliant. They say they are but I do not know this for a fact. So am I protecting myself with the disclaimer or not? If not what do I need to do to protect myself?
                                                              When you're running down my country hoss...you're walking on the fighting side of me!

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                                                              • Olivier
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Mar 2003
                                                                • 656

                                                                #131
                                                                Originally posted by theking
                                                                AaronM or others...

                                                                I have a question. I have this posted on an AVS site.

                                                                All girls herein are 18 years of age or older.
                                                                By entering this site you swear that you are of legal age in your area to view adult material and that you wish to view such material.
                                                                Records required pursuant to 18 U.S.C. § 2257 are held by the Webmaster of this site or the sponsors of this site.

                                                                I do not know if all sponsors are compliant. They say they are but I do not know this for a fact. So am I protecting myself with the disclaimer or not? If not what do I need to do to protect myself?
                                                                just be sure to have the correct info about the 2257 info of the content providers. The disclaimer protect you I think

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                                                                • LadyMischief
                                                                  Orgasms N Such!
                                                                  • Sep 2002
                                                                  • 18135

                                                                  #132
                                                                  Originally posted by basschick
                                                                  i guess they'd rather find out from a REAL judge and jury

                                                                  but the webmasters that trust their content provider's word that the content is legal deserve better. why don't web content producers simply put a link to their custodian of records info on their main page? i don't get it....
                                                                  Webmasters need to get informed too.. THey trust that their content provider is covering their ass and doing things legally. But unfortunately a lot of people don't even know where to start.

                                                                  It's blind faith. Loyalty is good, but if you don't watch your own ass, nobody else is going to watch it for you, that's for sure. They can say they will, they might even intend to.. but it's always best to be armed with information. That way nothing can catch you by surprise. If more WEBMASTERS were a little more "paranoid" about 2257 compliance, more content providers would act accordingly. It's a vicious circle, really. Too many people coming into the biz with bright ideas and no real INFORMATION. They work on whim and conjecture, but don't bother to hunt up the facts. Aaron is giving a great big reality check and probably scared the shit out of a lot of people today, but better he does things this way here than them learning the hard way behind bars as Bubba's bitch.

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                                                                  • LadyMischief
                                                                    Orgasms N Such!
                                                                    • Sep 2002
                                                                    • 18135

                                                                    #133
                                                                    Originally posted by jcnlv
                                                                    I am curious to know how many of the content brokers out there have actually *seen* any of the custodian of records information from the producers they represent.

                                                                    It is great that they give the name and address of the producer... but what are they doing to verify that information?

                                                                    Does the broker need copies of all releases and IDs to be fully compliant? .... or can he just pass the responsibility down to the producer?... or worse yet, the producer's agent...

                                                                    Does anyone know the U.S. law on this?
                                                                    A broker should not only confirm that these records exist, but it's a VERY good idea to keep them on file as well as confirmation of this fact. We require full documentation for every content set we broker for other producers in an unaltered state. We will provide altered (for model's protection) documentation for webmasters if requested. However, as I say, I know we confirm this information and keep records on hand, I would assume most otehr brokers who are concerned with full compliance would do so as well.

                                                                    ICQ 3522039
                                                                    Content Manager - orgasm.com
                                                                    [email protected]

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                                                                    • fantasycontent
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Apr 2002
                                                                      • 2104

                                                                      #134
                                                                      hey Aaron what a great idea!

                                                                      thanks for pointing out that our sister site (Fantasy Modeling) was not in compliance. Its been updated and can viewed here http://www.fantasymodeling.com/2257.html and this page is accessible from our home (enter page) http://www.fantasymodeling.com
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                                                                      • mpegposter
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Dec 2002
                                                                        • 483

                                                                        #135
                                                                        Originally posted by LadyMischief


                                                                        Webmasters need to get informed too.. THey trust that their content provider is covering their ass and doing things legally. But unfortunately a lot of people don't even know where to start.

                                                                        So remind me again why he didn't simply post explicit rules that each webmaster should LOOK for when buying content? Or post a complimentary thread advising adult content providers on the most common simple violations of 2257 so they could update their sites if they so chose? As Ralph Nader can attest, it's very difficult to make a difference standing out in front of huge corporate offices with picket signs. It is far easier to educate the consumer. However if Ralph Nader wrote Unsafe At Any Speed while he sat on the board of Ford Motor Co. he would have been laughed off the public stage. Sadly, adult webmasters are simply that gullible.

                                                                        Buy Aaron's content! He was the one who took the huge and risky step to help purify the industry by pointing out missing names and links on his competitors' websites! And all you content providers, make sure you become Aaron's friend so he will notify you before his next 'crusade' (or simply forget to put you on the list.)
                                                                        The voice of the Moral Minority.

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                                                                        • LadyMischief
                                                                          Orgasms N Such!
                                                                          • Sep 2002
                                                                          • 18135

                                                                          #136
                                                                          Originally posted by mpegposter



                                                                          So remind me again why he didn't simply post explicit rules that each webmaster should LOOK for when buying content? Or post a complimentary thread advising adult content providers on the most common simple violations of 2257 so they could update their sites if they so chose? As Ralph Nader can attest, it's very difficult to make a difference standing out in front of huge corporate offices with picket signs. It is far easier to educate the consumer. However if Ralph Nader wrote Unsafe At Any Speed while he sat on the board of Ford Motor Co. he would have been laughed off the public stage. Sadly, adult webmasters are simply that gullible.

                                                                          Buy Aaron's content! He was the one who took the huge and risky step to help purify the industry by pointing out missing names and links on his competitors' websites! And all you content providers, make sure you become Aaron's friend so he will notify you before his next 'crusade' (or simply forget to put you on the list.)
                                                                          Do you honestly think that if it was presented as ANYTHING but a swift kick in the ass, half the people who ARE doing something would have even bothered? Most people aren't that big on subtlety. Sure, Aaron was a little tactless.. but guess what.. the law isnt' so tactful either. Everyone is so busy bitching about Aaron being "mean" that they seem to forget that he's doing them a HUGE favor, and nobody asked him to do it. He's doing it for the general betterment of the industry as a whole, and I for one applaud it. What do you want him to say? "Pardon me, but you might want to read my little list here, and umm.. could you please be nice and not make all of us suffer for your laziness?" Hell with that.


                                                                          Aaron

                                                                          ICQ 3522039
                                                                          Content Manager - orgasm.com
                                                                          [email protected]

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                                                                          • theking
                                                                            Nice Kitty
                                                                            • Sep 2002
                                                                            • 21053

                                                                            #137
                                                                            I agree. It is an important service.
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                                                                            • AaronM
                                                                              GFY Royality ;)
                                                                              • Oct 2001
                                                                              • 46917

                                                                              #138
                                                                              Originally posted by fantasycontent
                                                                              hey Aaron what a great idea!

                                                                              thanks for pointing out that our sister site (Fantasy Modeling) was not in compliance. Its been updated and can viewed here http://www.fantasymodeling.com/2257.html and this page is accessible from our home (enter page) http://www.fantasymodeling.com
                                                                              Thanks for the support, Dan. I have updated that listing as well.

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                                                                              • pornguy
                                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                • Mar 2003
                                                                                • 62910

                                                                                #139
                                                                                Aaron,

                                                                                I use some of the free content from several of my providers. How do I list them on my 2257 page?? Or can I link to their 2257 pages??


                                                                                Sorry for the stupid questions..
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                                                                                • fantasycontent
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Apr 2002
                                                                                  • 2104

                                                                                  #140
                                                                                  Originally posted by AaronM


                                                                                  Thanks for the support, Dan. I have updated that listing as well.
                                                                                  Thanks Bro and anytime!!
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                                                                                  • Theo
                                                                                    HAL 9000
                                                                                    • May 2001
                                                                                    • 34515

                                                                                    #141
                                                                                    good work aaron

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                                                                                    • AaronM
                                                                                      GFY Royality ;)
                                                                                      • Oct 2001
                                                                                      • 46917

                                                                                      #142
                                                                                      Originally posted by pornguy
                                                                                      Aaron,

                                                                                      I use some of the free content from several of my providers. How do I list them on my 2257 page?? Or can I link to their 2257 pages??


                                                                                      Sorry for the stupid questions..
                                                                                      Well, I am currently working on this 2257 page for all of the PIBCash sites. I have not had it reviewed by any attorney's yet but I am pretty sure it is safe.

                                                                                      This may be a good option for you. Create one page with all of your providers and simply link it to your sites or galleries. In the case of sponsor content, talk to your sponsor and see what they suggest.

                                                                                      http://www.tonifreeland.com/2257.htm

                                                                                      It would not hurt for you to spend a little and get a paid consultation with an Internet attorney. Same goes for pretty much anybody in this business. Not everybody can afford to drop a few grand for a retainer but a couple hundred may keep you out of hot water.


                                                                                      Edit: I know the Isamar provider is missing some info. That is why this page is not live for all of our sites yet.
                                                                                      Last edited by AaronM; 04-22-2003, 07:48 PM.

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                                                                                      • jact
                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                        • Sep 2002
                                                                                        • 9134

                                                                                        #143
                                                                                        Originally posted by jcnlv
                                                                                        I am curious to know how many of the content brokers out there have actually *seen* any of the custodian of records information from the producers they represent.

                                                                                        It is great that they give the name and address of the producer... but what are they doing to verify that information?

                                                                                        Does the broker need copies of all releases and IDs to be fully compliant? .... or can he just pass the responsibility down to the producer?... or worse yet, the producer's agent...

                                                                                        Does anyone know the U.S. law on this?
                                                                                        We require copies of all documents for items we sell. I believe Web-Legal has started to do this too for anyone non-US based. Not sure about any other brokers.
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                                                                                        • jact
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Sep 2002
                                                                                          • 9134

                                                                                          #144
                                                                                          Originally posted by theking
                                                                                          AaronM or others...

                                                                                          I have a question. I have this posted on an AVS site.

                                                                                          All girls herein are 18 years of age or older.
                                                                                          By entering this site you swear that you are of legal age in your area to view adult material and that you wish to view such material.
                                                                                          Records required pursuant to 18 U.S.C. § 2257 are held by the Webmaster of this site or the sponsors of this site.

                                                                                          I do not know if all sponsors are compliant. They say they are but I do not know this for a fact. So am I protecting myself with the disclaimer or not? If not what do I need to do to protect myself?
                                                                                          So you're actually the custodian for every photo? Try again.
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                                                                                          • SinEmpire
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Nov 2001
                                                                                            • 9813

                                                                                            #145
                                                                                            How about checking http://www.amateur-cutie-content.com and http://www.rockbottomcontent.com both good companies by my experience they might as well be on your list.

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                                                                                            • theking
                                                                                              Nice Kitty
                                                                                              • Sep 2002
                                                                                              • 21053

                                                                                              #146
                                                                                              Originally posted by jact


                                                                                              So you're actually the custodian for every photo? Try again.
                                                                                              An explanation please?
                                                                                              When you're running down my country hoss...you're walking on the fighting side of me!

                                                                                              FOR THE LYING LOWLIFE POSTING AS PATHFINDER...http://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-pr...athfinder.html

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                                                                                              • fantasycontent
                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                • Apr 2002
                                                                                                • 2104

                                                                                                #147
                                                                                                for those content providers that aaron listed you should give him a link back! After all if you are in compliance he has done you a favor by listing your site.

                                                                                                I added your button here http://www.fantasymodeling.com/resources.html

                                                                                                and will get one on http://www.fantasycontent.com tomorrow when my partner is back in the office.
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                                                                                                • jact
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Sep 2002
                                                                                                  • 9134

                                                                                                  #148
                                                                                                  Originally posted by theking


                                                                                                  An explanation please?
                                                                                                  Do you hold the unaltered documents for all the photos you're claiming that (YOU) the "webmaster" has on record? No, then stop telling the authorities that you're taking 100% responsibility and simply put the title 18 information up. Why goto jail when all it takes is a cut and paste?
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                                                                                                  • ChrisH
                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                    • Aug 2001
                                                                                                    • 1355

                                                                                                    #149
                                                                                                    Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
                                                                                                    oh look... it's the website compliancy police....
                                                                                                    Add Your Niche Sites
                                                                                                    Add Your Shemale Sites/Galleries
                                                                                                    Talk About the NFL

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                                                                                                    • AaronM
                                                                                                      GFY Royality ;)
                                                                                                      • Oct 2001
                                                                                                      • 46917

                                                                                                      #150
                                                                                                      Originally posted by jact


                                                                                                      Do you hold the unaltered documents for all the photos you're claiming that (YOU) the "webmaster" has on record? No, then stop telling the authorities that you're taking 100% responsibility and simply put the title 18 information up. Why goto jail when all it takes is a cut and paste?
                                                                                                      NEWSFLASH!

                                                                                                      This is GFY...Please stop making sense.

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