Sponsors fucking the industry up...Ever track your email? I did...The results are in!

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  • Jon2
    So Fucking Banned
    • Aug 2001
    • 2875

    #1

    Sponsors fucking the industry up...Ever track your email? I did...The results are in!

    Okay...So overall I have catchall emails on all my domains...So when I signup for something...Normally I use a catchall addy for I can track just how much spam I get from them...

    So lets take a example... Sexpromote ... You know the scammers who fuck surfers out of $40...But anyways...

    I filled out their form on freeadultlottery.com and got to the next page where it asked for credit cards...Nope ain't gonna fill it in...So I closed it out...Thank god my browser didn't crash from all the popups...

    So...Remember I never got access to the free porn...

    But guess what I did get?

    I joined about 2/17/03

    To date...I've gotten...1,567 messages...

    That evens out to about 25 messages a day...

    So the cost of free porn I never got is 1,567 emails? And each email has their own "unsubscribe" system...So how am I suppose to stop these emails if I was a normal surfer?

    Its shit like this that is killing our industry...I am not referring to sites who send you newsletters daily in exchange for free porn...The kind that send it from the same email addy and has a REAL remove link...

    Here is a screenshot...



    Input please...

    Jon
  • Rictor
    Old Timer
    • Jan 2001
    • 12208

    #2
    Unfortunately, that is common practice and explains why ratios keep going down for e-mail collection programs, no matter how fresh they are. Once a surfer gets fucked like that they aren't going to be giving out their e-mail address at a porn site ever again.

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    • foreverjason
      Confirmed User
      • Mar 2003
      • 1452

      #3
      wow shit dude. I remember when I used hotmail, i would get like 300 spam emails a day, so then I just said fuckit!

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      • X37375787

        #4
        insane. shady practices...

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        • m0rph3us
          Confirmed User
          • Mar 2001
          • 2033

          #5
          fuck em all ! Just send them to free tgps and kazzaa.

          Fight paying for porn LOL
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          • EscortBiz
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            • May 2002
            • 19422

            #6
            I know exactly what yu mean, I know the same about pretty well known so called good people in this biz its a shame.

            By the way I see you clicked on jennifer lol

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            • Jon2
              So Fucking Banned
              • Aug 2001
              • 2875

              #7
              Originally posted by EscortBiz
              By the way I see you clicked on jennifer lol
              Sometimes I get tricked

              Jon

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              • TDF
                Triple OG nigga on GFY
                • Mar 2002
                • 27296

                #8
                Originally posted by qualitythumbs


                Sometimes I get tricked

                Jon
                tranny
                Sig heil

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                • richmedia
                  Confirmed User
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 383

                  #9
                  I think many email proggies work similar, 5-10 emails daily.
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                  • Jon2
                    So Fucking Banned
                    • Aug 2001
                    • 2875

                    #10
                    Originally posted by richmedia
                    I think many email proggies work similar, 5-10 emails daily.
                    Yea...but do they come from the same email addy? Or do they come from a different email addy/server with every email?

                    Jon

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                    • Rodent
                      Confirmed User
                      • Mar 2001
                      • 1462

                      #11
                      Fuck that shit, put a redirect on that email addy to send it all back to them
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                      • Jon2
                        So Fucking Banned
                        • Aug 2001
                        • 2875

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Rodent
                        Fuck that shit, put a redirect on that email addy to send it all back to them
                        Good idea...Setting it up now



                        Jon

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                        • Jon2
                          So Fucking Banned
                          • Aug 2001
                          • 2875

                          #13
                          Done...

                          [email protected] -> [email protected]
                          [email protected] -> [email protected]

                          muhahhahahahha

                          Jon

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                          • the_lemur
                            Registered User
                            • Apr 2003
                            • 73

                            #14
                            Unfortunately that might not be the best plan of attack. Most of the time spammers don't have a valid reply address. This means your reply message will bounce back to you. They'll still send you more spam, which means you'll get double the messages. I'd recommend using a program like the following to fake a bounce reply to their mail server. (This just happens to be the first program I came across)

                            http://www.webattack.com/get/bounce.shtml

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                            • X37375787

                              #15
                              excellent

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                              • Jon2
                                So Fucking Banned
                                • Aug 2001
                                • 2875

                                #16
                                Originally posted by the_lemur
                                Unfortunately that might not be the best plan of attack. Most of the time spammers don't have a valid reply address. This means your reply message will bounce back to you. They'll still send you more spam, which means you'll get double the messages. I'd recommend using a program like the following to fake a bounce reply to their mail server. (This just happens to be the first program I came across)

                                http://www.webattack.com/get/bounce.shtml

                                Actually...What I am doing is taking all email that is sent to those 2 email addresses and forwarding it right along to sexpromote...See what sexpromote has done is used my email addresss to signup with tons of different sponsors and also has most likely sold my email address to quite a few spammers...

                                So instead they will be getting the 25 emails a day...

                                Jon

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                                • stanton
                                  So Fucking Banned
                                  • Jun 2002
                                  • 2640

                                  #17
                                  jesus christ, and they call ME a spammer!!

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                                  • cherrylula
                                    lol
                                    • Jan 2002
                                    • 15969

                                    #18
                                    I get septic tank emails every day.

                                    And I have no clue why someone would have internet access and no plumbing.

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                                    • the real magoo
                                      So Fucking Banned
                                      • Sep 2001
                                      • 1637

                                      #19
                                      Its getting ugly.. I have two friends that don´t want to surf the web anymore because of all the junk mail and popup windows..in the long run it could hurt all business on the web

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                                      • basschick
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Jan 2001
                                        • 2540

                                        #20
                                        i signed part of the way up for a dollarmachine site and a stiffycash site. i never clicked okay to use my email address, and i never input my cc info.

                                        i now get about 500 spam emails a day from one of those two companies, or both because whoever it was SOLD my email address over and over. it was an email i only used twice, when i tried the first part of those two programs' signups. i talked to my rep and dollarmachine, and he said they don't do that. same at stiffycash. GRRRRRRRRRRRR
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                                        • Jon2
                                          So Fucking Banned
                                          • Aug 2001
                                          • 2875

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by toodamnfli


                                          tranny
                                          lol

                                          Jon

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                                          • Donnie Gangsta
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Mar 2002
                                            • 1104

                                            #22
                                            haha the real magoo said its getting ugly but has a link to an email sponsor in his sig

                                            fact is this is uncontrollable.. email makes money, and anything that makes money eventually gets so saturated that it doesn't make money for individuals anymore, but still makes money as a whole..

                                            only way to curtail it would be to stop doing this.. which is about like saying give up all your money, share, and live together and paint logos of scythes and hammers on your walls....


                                            warm and fuzzy in principle but can't happen. oh well.. so is life.

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                                            • DrGuile
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Jan 2002
                                              • 2025

                                              #23
                                              hmmm lets see, you want people to give 35-40$ for a FREE join, no chargebacks and you DONT want popups and email spam?





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                                              • rowan
                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                • Mar 2002
                                                • 17393

                                                #24
                                                <b>confirmed.</b>

                                                I signed up off freepornlottery.com but closed the browser when it asked for my CC number. I kept an eye on my email for about 10 mins, then lost interest. However, I've just noticed that 8 spams have since arrived - sent to the special name and address that I used.

                                                Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 14:30:49 -0700 (PDT)
                                                From: Protector &lt;[email protected]&gt;
                                                To: Eric Carmen &lt;***@***&gt;
                                                Subject: Your personal information is at risk!
                                                <b><i>- Evidence eraser type program</i></b>

                                                Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 14:30:49 -0700 (PDT)
                                                From: Energy &lt;[email protected]&gt;
                                                To: Eric Carmen &lt;***@***&gt;
                                                Subject: the fountain of youth is in your reach...
                                                <b><i>- Human growth hormone</i></b>

                                                Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 14:30:49 -0700 (PDT)
                                                From: amber &lt;[email protected]&gt;
                                                To: Eric Carmen &lt;***@***&gt;
                                                Subject: pic out of my new photo set...
                                                <b><i>- amateurteeny.com</i></b>

                                                Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 14:30:49 -0700 (PDT)
                                                From: Friendly Credit &lt;[email protected]&gt;
                                                To: Eric Carmen &lt;***@***&gt;
                                                Subject: Guaranteed Approval!
                                                <b><i>- Mastercard provider</i></b>

                                                Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 14:30:49 -0700 (PDT)
                                                From: MP3 Man &lt;[email protected]&gt;
                                                To: Eric Carmen &lt;***@***&gt;
                                                Subject: Better Than Napster Ever Was!
                                                <b><i>- P2P napster clone</i></b>

                                                Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 14:30:49 -0700 (PDT)
                                                From: Wifey &lt;[email protected]&gt;
                                                To: Eric Carmen &lt;***@***&gt;
                                                Subject: wivesuncensored.jpg enclosed free 4 you
                                                <b><i>- wivesuncensored (?)</i></b>

                                                Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 14:30:49 -0700 (PDT)
                                                From: annie &lt;[email protected]&gt;
                                                To: Eric Carmen &lt;***@***&gt;
                                                Subject: amateurcamera.jpg FREE pic!
                                                <b><i>- amateurcamera (?)</i></b>

                                                Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 14:53:09 -0700 (PDT)
                                                From: RiskyMail4Free &lt;[email protected]&gt;
                                                To: ***@***
                                                Subject: RiskyMail4Free Password Confirmation
                                                <b><i>- optin request for riskymail4free</i></b>




                                                [email protected] couldn't possibly be human manned, it would get back so much crap and abuse...

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                                                • SpaceAce
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Jul 2002
                                                  • 6493

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by DrGuile
                                                  hmmm lets see, you want people to give 35-40$ for a FREE join, no chargebacks and you DONT want popups and email spam?





                                                  get real
                                                  You're an idiot. He didn't even <B>get</B> his free porn. There is a difference between a company that sends you their sponsor's ads with your free porn and someone who just harvests email addresses and signs you up for 25 spams/day.

                                                  SpaceAce

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                                                  • DrGuile
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Jan 2002
                                                    • 2025

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by SpaceAce


                                                    You're an idiot. He didn't even <B>get</B> his free porn. There is a difference between a company that sends you their sponsor's ads with your free porn and someone who just harvests email addresses and signs you up for 25 spams/day.

                                                    SpaceAce
                                                    Im an idiot?

                                                    ahahah

                                                    who's just figuring this out today?

                                                    I never send mailing traffic to those sponsors because it just washes out your list.

                                                    But like I said: GET REAL. they have to make that 40$/join somewhere, and that somewhere is off harvesting emails and untracked exits.
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                                                    • suesheboy
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Nov 2002
                                                      • 5211

                                                      #27
                                                      My email conversions are way down and this is one of the reasons.

                                                      I suggest you post a link to a program like this so that you give the surfer a freee email account that pays you such as this one:

                                                      <a href="http://affiliate.boxfrog.com/?affid=suesheboy">
                                                      <br>
                                                      FREE email accounts</a>

                                                      It helps. They dont get screwed and you make a few bucks.
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                                                      • Backov
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Mar 2001
                                                        • 1600

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by suesheboy
                                                        My email conversions are way down and this is one of the reasons.

                                                        I suggest you post a link to a program like this so that you give the surfer a freee email account that pays you such as this one:

                                                        <a href="http://affiliate.boxfrog.com/?affid=suesheboy">
                                                        <br>
                                                        FREE email accounts</a>

                                                        It helps. They dont get screwed and you make a few bucks.
                                                        I got terminated from Incite for doing exactly that (with hotmail and yahoo)... Back when I was a noob.
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                                                        • suesheboy
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Nov 2002
                                                          • 5211

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Backov


                                                          I got terminated from Incite for doing exactly that (with hotmail and yahoo)... Back when I was a noob.
                                                          What!! I never dreamed that was a problem!

                                                          Has anyone else heard of this as a problem? I have to read some TOS paperwork right away!
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                                                          • bauhaus
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                                                            • May 2001
                                                            • 773

                                                            #30
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                                                            • Jimmer
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Mar 2002
                                                              • 878

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Backov


                                                              I got terminated from Incite for doing exactly that (with hotmail and yahoo)... Back when I was a noob.
                                                              I didn't see anything about that in the tos of the program I am in.
                                                              Might just be the particular sponsor
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                                                              • rowan
                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                • Mar 2002
                                                                • 17393

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by suesheboy
                                                                My email conversions are way down and this is one of the reasons.

                                                                I suggest you post a link to a program like this so that you give the surfer a freee email account that pays you such as this one:

                                                                <a href="http://affiliate.boxfrog.com/?affid=suesheboy">
                                                                <br>
                                                                FREE email accounts</a>

                                                                It helps. They dont get screwed and you make a few bucks.
                                                                According to this, boxfrog will spam your real email address when you sign up for a free one.

                                                                http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...t+boxfrog+spam

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                                                                • Jimmer
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Mar 2002
                                                                  • 878

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by rowan


                                                                  According to this, boxfrog will spam your real email address when you sign up for a free one.

                                                                  http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...t+boxfrog+spam
                                                                  I think it is obvious when you have options to check off what you are interested in. If you don't check anything are your spammed in your box?
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                                                                  • FATPad
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                                                                    • Oct 2001
                                                                    • 6693

                                                                    #34
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                                                                    • Porn Mickey
                                                                      we all love porn
                                                                      • Nov 2001
                                                                      • 2840

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by stanton
                                                                      jesus christ, and they call ME a spammer!!
                                                                      you're a person, but they doing as a team. "approved"
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                                                                      • rowan
                                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                        • Mar 2002
                                                                        • 17393

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Just noticed a reject in my mail logs for the unique address I used to initiate the signup to sexpromote.

                                                                        It's been more than a year since this thread was started. I never completed the signup (or agreed to any T&C), and they're STILL spamming me!

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                                                                        • Oracle Porn
                                                                          Affiliate
                                                                          • Oct 2002
                                                                          • 24433

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by qualitythumbs
                                                                          Done...

                                                                          [email protected] -> [email protected]
                                                                          [email protected] -> [email protected]

                                                                          muhahhahahahha

                                                                          Jon


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                                                                          • rowan
                                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                            • Mar 2002
                                                                            • 17393

                                                                            #38
                                                                            bump of a very old thread...

                                                                            I thought people may be interested to know that there are still attempted deliveries to the unique email address I used when I signed up (as a consumer) over 4 years ago on freeadultlottery.com.

                                                                            Are these fuckwits too stupid to clean their lists? The address has been "unknown user" bouncing for 4+ years. Then again these are the people who deluge you with spam when you don't even fully complete the signup.

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