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  • Number1Thumb
    Confirmed User
    • Feb 2003
    • 1135

    #1

    Does a sponsor lose credibility when they....

    switch from ccbill to "their" own software for tracking stats? Just curious as I received an email from a certain sponsor just now.
  • 4Pics
    Confirmed User
    • Dec 2001
    • 7952

    #2
    i think it depends on the sponsor, but it's been shown you can shave atleast 2 different ways with ccbill so I dont see how that makes it any different.

    The best part of CCbill is your checks don't bounce and arrive ontime.

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    • MadCap
      Confirmed User
      • Aug 2002
      • 2357

      #3
      Originally posted by 4Pics


      The best part of CCbill is your checks don't bounce and arrive ontime.



      amen

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      • PurrrsianPussyKat
        Confirmed User
        • Jan 2004
        • 2088

        #4
        Originally posted by Number1Thumb
        switch from ccbill to "their" own software for tracking stats? Just curious as I received an email from a certain sponsor just now.
        You only got 1? I got 16!
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        • Nickless
          Confirmed User
          • Aug 2003
          • 1955

          #5
          Originally posted by Number1Thumb
          switch from ccbill to "their" own software for tracking stats? Just curious as I received an email from a certain sponsor just now.
          yes.

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          • Number1Thumb
            Confirmed User
            • Feb 2003
            • 1135

            #6
            Originally posted by PurrrsianPussyKat


            You only got 1? I got 16!
            well ya I got 7 from the same sponsor. And it is just weird after there name was tossed into the mix at the same time another sponsor has just switched to "their" own software also. NO THANKS ill pass, its not like here arent a million programs that work with ccbill

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            • OY
              Industry Pioneer
              • Oct 2002
              • 5401

              #7
              Originally posted by Number1Thumb
              switch from ccbill to "their" own software for tracking stats? Just curious as I received an email from a certain sponsor just now.
              Only if the sponsor (if it is CCBill, Epoch, Jettis, IBill, or any other processor) does not intent to use MULTIPLE processors as the new solution is their new software.

              If they are going to use multiple processors in their new software, then it will only MAKE YOU MORE MONEY, so I would not worry if that was the case.

              I am sure there is more to this "story"... Details please...

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              • Nasty
                Confirmed User
                • Aug 2002
                • 1575

                #8
                I got 12, if they cant get their fucking email software to work, Im sure not trusting them to manage my affiliate traffic any better

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                • Number1Thumb
                  Confirmed User
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 1135

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Oystein


                  Only if the sponsor (if it is CCBill, Epoch, Jettis, IBill, or any other processor) does not intent to use MULTIPLE processors as the new solution is their new software.

                  If they are going to use multiple processors in their new software, then it will only MAKE YOU MORE MONEY, so I would not worry if that was the case.

                  I am sure there is more to this "story"... Details please...

                  Oystein stop with the MPA2 spam, LOL its not directed towards cascading billing in anyway. Im just askin why would they switch? Knowing webmasters have a certain comfort level with ccbill. Its just shady in my eyes and I wont be riding that train.

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                  • 4Pics
                    Confirmed User
                    • Dec 2001
                    • 7952

                    #10
                    Whats the program that is switching?

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                    • Sosa
                      In Tushy Land
                      • Oct 2002
                      • 40149

                      #11
                      I got 8 of em... All from the same sponsor.

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                      • lock
                        Confirmed User
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 5065

                        #12
                        just moves which way you point your finger.
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                        • OY
                          Industry Pioneer
                          • Oct 2002
                          • 5401

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Number1Thumb

                          Oystein stop with the MPA2 spam, LOL its not directed towards cascading billing in anyway. Im just askin why would they switch? Knowing webmasters have a certain comfort level with ccbill. Its just shady in my eyes and I wont be riding that train.
                          Funny you should say that buddy, I never even mentioned MPA2 even though I should have - since it does make you more MONEY!

                          I was just stating a fact...

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                          • PurrrsianPussyKat
                            Confirmed User
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 2088

                            #14
                            I was disappointed to see that they were switching.. don't know if I'm gonna keep promoting them yet.

                            I like using ccbill sponsors, because I KNOW I'm gonna get my check. All these rogue sponsor programs seem to end up tits up and I'm left with no check.
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                            • blackmonsters
                              Making PHP work
                              • Nov 2002
                              • 20992

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Nasty
                              I got 12, if they cant get their fucking email software to work, Im sure not trusting them to manage my affiliate traffic any better


                              You are quite wise!!!

                              If they can't send email then their stats will be fucked...no dout!!
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                              • Number1Thumb
                                Confirmed User
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 1135

                                #16
                                Oystein your MR MPA2 so you need not mention it, also I like my weekly checks that havent missed in over a year so I will be moving on. Bad move IMO

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                                • DBS.US
                                  Geo Cities
                                  • Aug 2003
                                  • 11841

                                  #17
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                                  • Matt 26z
                                    So Fucking Banned
                                    • Apr 2002
                                    • 18481

                                    #18
                                    It's a pretty foolish business decision for any accused sponsor to move away from CCBill stats right now reguardless of their guilt or innocence.

                                    If I was one of those sites and it truly was a mistake, then my damage control would be to simply stay with CCBill and promote the fact that I can't shave even if I wanted to now that the setting is open for public view by CCBill.

                                    By moving away from CCBill stats, accoused sponsors realistically can't do anything to correct the assumption that they are con's.

                                    What's going to happen is the industry will develop a notion that accused sponsors are moving to their own stats immediately because of a financial dependance on making the supposed shaves.

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                                    • 4Pics
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Dec 2001
                                      • 7952

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Number1Thumb
                                      Oystein your MR MPA2 so you need not mention it, also I like my weekly checks that havent missed in over a year so I will be moving on. Bad move IMO
                                      Oystein's checks don't bounce

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                                      • Number1Thumb
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Feb 2003
                                        • 1135

                                        #20
                                        Im not talking about scam artist extraordanaire Perfection Jeff btw. A close buddy though I think

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                                        • Number1Thumb
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Feb 2003
                                          • 1135

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by 4Pics


                                          Oystein's checks don't bounce
                                          Never said they did I use them on my mainstream affiliate program. Good guys and cascading rocks

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                                          • OY
                                            Industry Pioneer
                                            • Oct 2002
                                            • 5401

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Number1Thumb
                                            Oystein your MR MPA2 so you need not mention it, also I like my weekly checks that havent missed in over a year so I will be moving on. Bad move IMO
                                            I hear you... It is truly a safety to have the checks coming directly from the processor in a lot of cases. I agree with that - to a certain extent. Dont forget that I used to be with Epoch back in 97-99 - so I know where the safety lies - for the most part... HOWEVER, in cases like GloBill and PSW (and others like them) where they just vanished from the face of this planet,

                                            When you choose a sponsor that use his/hers/companys stand-alone software to track and distribute the checks for the referral traffic, you can now hold THEM liable for the money and collect (a lot of times easier than to collect from a bancrupt processor due to pressure from forums like GFY) - because the owners of the program in question always will be a FACE rather than a COMPANY - - - we all have our own opinions on this, of course, so feel free to comment.

                                            PS. On my way to a movie (21 grams), but will check in later to post any replies.

                                            PPS. I want to know if this company went to using JUST CCBill with their own stats or........

                                            Great question btw Number1Thumb

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                                            • Number1Thumb
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Feb 2003
                                              • 1135

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Oystein


                                              I hear you... It is truly a safety to have the checks coming directly from the processor in a lot of cases. I agree with that - to a certain extent. Dont forget that I used to be with Epoch back in 97-99 - so I know where the safety lies - for the most part... HOWEVER, in cases like GloBill and PSW (and others like them) where they just vanished from the face of this planet,

                                              When you choose a sponsor that use his/hers/companys stand-alone software to track and distribute the checks for the referral traffic, you can now hold THEM liable for the money and collect (a lot of times easier than to collect from a bancrupt processor due to pressure from forums like GFY) - because the owners of the program in question always will be a FACE rather than a COMPANY - - - we all have our own opinions on this, of course, so feel free to comment.

                                              PS. On my way to a movie (21 grams), but will check in later to post any replies.

                                              PPS. I want to know if this company went to using JUST CCBill with their own stats or........

                                              Great question btw Number1Thumb

                                              To address one point you made, I have way more confidence in ccbill then some punk kid hiding behind his computer sending me my checks. Trust me just look at likewhoa, no amount of forum pressure will ever get those guys back their servers money or anything else. So I will stick with a company with a presence. Ya know I didnt check to much if they are cascading it or not.

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                                              • OY
                                                Industry Pioneer
                                                • Oct 2002
                                                • 5401

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by 4Pics


                                                Oystein's checks don't bounce
                                                True dat!
                                                Around since 1997, and the company that introduced "Cascading Billing" in MPA3® Affiliate Management and Tracking Software

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                                                • OY
                                                  Industry Pioneer
                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                  • 5401

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Number1Thumb

                                                  To address one point you made, I have way more confidence in ccbill then some punk kid hiding behind his computer sending me my checks. Trust me just look at likewhoa, no amount of forum pressure will ever get those guys back their servers money or anything else. So I will stick with a company with a presence. Ya know I didnt check to much if they are cascading it or not.
                                                  And I agree to the fullest!

                                                  Not to change subject here, but we do price MPA2 as a high end product (which it is) just to avoid punks being able to use it. Our business have no use for them. Stay strong with the strong ones...

                                                  Unfortunately some of the software packages out there does give "punks" tools they should not have, at a too low price...



                                                  Oh well, have to go... cya all later...
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