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  • lEricPl
    Confirmed User
    • Dec 2002
    • 1062
    #51
    Originally posted by DynaSpain
    Why runs hotmail on freebsd? b.t.w. Yahoo runs on freebsd
    aswell. Get your information straight.

    scroll down to the bottom of the page and see

    http://www.freebsd.org/gallery/cgallery.html


    DynaMite
    Maybe it's old....

    http://ealabs.com/studio/services/xm...=GetServerType

    hotmail.com is showing IIS.

    Last edited by lEricPl; 04-18-2003, 07:05 PM.

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      • lEricPl
        Confirmed User
        • Dec 2002
        • 1062
        #52
        Originally posted by DynaSpain


        That says more about your clients then about the OS they use.

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          • ServerGenius
            Confirmed User
            • Feb 2002
            • 9377
            #53
            Originally posted by lEricPl


            Maybe it's old....

            http://ealabs.com/studio/services/xm...=GetServerType

            hotmail.com is showing IIS.
            You really think Microsoft would like to show the world they run
            on FreeBSD?

            Check google and you'll find several articles about it from
            credible established news sources when it leaked out.

            Hotmail and FTP server from Microsoft.com run on FreeBSD.

            Take a look at the systems that basically run the internet.
            it's 100% unix......simply because it's free? routers,
            switches, NOC's, fiber equipment ALL run Unix based OS.

            Microsoft makes a damn fine workstation or network
            server in a corperate environment. It's build just to do that.
            And it does it pretty well but in no way can it match stability
            performance, security, speed with unix servers.

            Anyone with half a brain will admit this.

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              • ServerGenius
                Confirmed User
                • Feb 2002
                • 9377
                #54
                Sorry I hate to leave in the middle of this.....but it's 5am on my
                side of the planet.......night, night to everybody no matter what
                you use DynaMite still loves you.

                Ok for good sake......Microsoft wins hands down when it comes
                to userfriendlieness <= is that a word?

                Fuck it I'm off to bed.....Have fun ladies!

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                  • lEricPl
                    Confirmed User
                    • Dec 2002
                    • 1062
                    #55
                    Originally posted by DynaSpain


                    You really think Microsoft would like to show the world they run
                    on FreeBSD?

                    Check google and you'll find several articles about it from
                    credible established news sources when it leaked out.

                    Hotmail and FTP server from Microsoft.com run on FreeBSD.

                    Take a look at the systems that basically run the internet.
                    it's 100% unix......simply because it's free? routers,
                    switches, NOC's, fiber equipment ALL run Unix based OS.

                    Microsoft makes a damn fine workstation or network
                    server in a corperate environment. It's build just to do that.
                    And it does it pretty well but in no way can it match stability
                    performance, security, speed with unix servers.

                    Anyone with half a brain will admit this.

                    DynaMite

                    Actually, just wait for Windows Server 2003 Web Edition...

                    It's a stripped down version for running just Web Applications...

                    None of the other junk that is really never needed in a Web enviroment is stripped out

                    A LOT cheaper too

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                      • SandraWang
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                        • Jun 2002
                        • 309
                        #56
                        DynaSpain: hey it's 5 am here too!

                        You sleep too much ;)

                        Buenos Noches!


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                          • chupacabra
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                            • Sep 2002
                            • 3626
                            #57
                            About your question where I'm from, I'm 100% Norwegian, from Oslo, the capitol... I have noticed alot of people think I'm asian when they see my last name, "Wang", but actually that is also a Norwegian last name ;) I was also told it means "dick" in english
                            ahh.. oensk velkommen til De, min vakker blomst... er dette bedre? ja, det betyr "penis"..!
                            ...promise her a defamation, tell her where the rain will fall..

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                              • SandraWang
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                                • Jun 2002
                                • 309
                                #58
                                Originally posted by chupacabra


                                ahh.. oensk velkommen til De, min vakker blomst... er dette bedre? ja, det betyr penis..!
                                *giggle* Nice try ;) Looks like the intention is good, though


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                                  • Kick Ass Chat
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                                    • Dec 2002
                                    • 2057
                                    #59
                                    free bsd is by far the best choice in OS for a server today.
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                                      • SandraWang
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                                        • Jun 2002
                                        • 309
                                        #60
                                        OK, I'll send them an e-mail now to get them switch back to Unix, and hope they don't get too mad at me...


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                                          • chupacabra
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                                            • Sep 2002
                                            • 3626
                                            #61
                                            *giggle* Nice try ;) Looks like the intention is good, though
                                            hehe, jeg prøver gjøre mitt best, elsker jeg de som en måne i en mørk himmel..!

                                            ...promise her a defamation, tell her where the rain will fall..

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                                              • SandraWang
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                                                • Jun 2002
                                                • 309
                                                #62
                                                Originally posted by chupacabra


                                                hehe, jeg prøver gjøre mitt best, elsker jeg de som en måne i en mørk himmel..!

                                                I'll try to translate it: LOL, I try to do my best, love them do I like a moon on a dark sky ;)


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                                                  • chupacabra
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                                                    • Sep 2002
                                                    • 3626
                                                    #63
                                                    I'll try to translate it: LOL, I try to do my best, love them do I like a moon on a dark sky ;)
                                                    hahaha, meget god..! for deres belønning, jeg tilføyer meg selv inn i Deres esel slik De nyter størrelsen av mitt stort redskap..!

                                                    ...promise her a defamation, tell her where the rain will fall..

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                                                      • SandraWang
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                                                        • Jun 2002
                                                        • 309
                                                        #64
                                                        HAHA! My cute little donkey


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                                                          • chupacabra
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                                                            • Sep 2002
                                                            • 3626
                                                            #65
                                                            HAHA! My cute little donkey
                                                            ahh... etter jeg tatt deres bukser, jeg tvinger meget stor neve dyp inn i deres åpning, skyve dyp til de lekker saft all over mitt ansikt... jeg bruker deres saft åpne hver hull de har! de spør meg hyggelig drikke vannet av mitt hud redskap, som jeg heller inn i deres munn, dråper sprette av av deres tunge. jeg elsker de! vÆrer som som!
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                                                              • rossiya2
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                                                                • Nov 2002
                                                                • 287
                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by SandraWang
                                                                I just got a dedicated server at ISPrime, and because I was told Windows Media
                                                                Hi Sandra

                                                                I used to couple windows and UNIX machines because windows was great for streaming and unreliable otherwise. You can make a hybrid system where windows streams the files off your UNIX machine leaving your website and scripts where they belong on a UNIX machine.
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                                                                  • rossiya2
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                                                                    • Nov 2002
                                                                    • 287
                                                                    #67
                                                                    Originally posted by lEricPl


                                                                    Maybe it's old....

                                                                    http://ealabs.com/studio/services/xm...=GetServerType

                                                                    hotmail.com is showing IIS.
                                                                    Those are the front end servers. The back end AFAIK is on BSD as they had a terrible time converting the infrastructure and they want to impress people running the tests as you just did.
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                                                                      • Snowone
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                                                                        • Jul 2002
                                                                        • 183
                                                                        #68
                                                                        http://www.netcraft.com/?host=hotmai...&lookup=Search

                                                                        hotmail is running a mix of freebsd boxes and iis v 5.0 boxes. Looked like mostly freebsd boxes out of the ones that were responding...
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                                                                          • smashface
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Sep 2002
                                                                            • 991
                                                                            #69
                                                                            Sandrawang,

                                                                            If you decide to go back to Unix(preferably FreeBSD), you can use the Darwin Streaming Server available at the Apple website.

                                                                            Very easy to install/configure.

                                                                            SF

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                                                                              • chupacabra
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Sep 2002
                                                                                • 3626
                                                                                #70
                                                                                Looked like mostly freebsd boxes out of the ones that were responding...
                                                                                heh... that pretty much sums it up..
                                                                                ...promise her a defamation, tell her where the rain will fall..

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                                                                                  • SandraWang
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Jun 2002
                                                                                    • 309
                                                                                    #71
                                                                                    Originally posted by rossiya2


                                                                                    Hi Sandra

                                                                                    I used to couple windows and UNIX machines because windows was great for streaming and unreliable otherwise. You can make a hybrid system where windows streams the files off your UNIX machine leaving your website and scripts where they belong on a UNIX machine.
                                                                                    Hi rossiya2,

                                                                                    that sounds great, how do I do this...?


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                                                                                      • SandraWang
                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                        • Jun 2002
                                                                                        • 309
                                                                                        #72
                                                                                        Originally posted by smashface
                                                                                        Sandrawang,

                                                                                        If you decide to go back to Unix(preferably FreeBSD), you can use the Darwin Streaming Server available at the Apple website.

                                                                                        Very easy to install/configure.

                                                                                        SF
                                                                                        Hi, SmashFace this looks interesting too, I looked at their site. Seems like it's free, but that sounds too good to be true... Or?

                                                                                        - Will this system stream all kinds of files, .wmv also?

                                                                                        - Is it possible to keep members from downloading the clips on this system?

                                                                                        - And can it run on my dedicated webserver without "crashing" with other stuff on the server?


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                                                                                          • VirtuMike
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • May 2002
                                                                                            • 2483
                                                                                            #73
                                                                                            I have many OS's running in our own farms. We have some solaris, some linux, some freebsd, and win2k. I'll tell you the 2k boxes are quite stable. I've had one that was running for almost a full year before I remembered it was still serving and probably needed some updating.

                                                                                            I can say this for Windows. It's FAST. REALLY REALLY fast. From what I have seen you can kick the crap out of any tweaked out apache with a simple out of the box 2k. It laughs at apache's open connection issue.

                                                                                            I sat throught a .NET 2003 demo at comdex and the guy said that a dual proc 2.4 could hit out 12,000 static hits a second. Out of the box. I think only Zeus can come near that. He also said drop in another two chips and you're at 16,500 hits a second. That's pretty fast.

                                                                                            If you plan to run paysites on windows you NEED a pricy bit of software called WebQuota. It's THE software to deal with passwords on windows. Nothing is even close to it. I've been running that software since 1997 and it's still really the only game in town.

                                                                                            To do a live webcam show you pretty much need to get a windows server and use windows media. There are other ways to do it but they suck.

                                                                                            My advice to you is to join one of the cam networks and use their media servers. By doing that you also get all their girls on your site (usually like 30 girls and it's up 7 nights a week) - AND you get THEM to pay the video feed hosting bill. So you get good daily live content, you save in hosting, and you even get to upsell someone else's members on your site.

                                                                                            You're welcome. Now BUY MY CONTENT!
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                                                                                              • x3m
                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                • May 2001
                                                                                                • 256
                                                                                                #74
                                                                                                SandraWang,

                                                                                                VirtuMike gave you a brilliant idea about joining one of the cam networks. Two thumbs up!

                                                                                                As far as movies...

                                                                                                The most common reasons to stream movies vs. letting your members to download them are 1) copyright protection 2) hotlink protection

                                                                                                As someone mentioned earlier, it is very difficult to protect your movies agains copyright violations. Most common thing to do is to watermark your movies with your domain. This way if someone will steal and post your movies on their sites, the surfers may type in your domain to see where they originally came from.

                                                                                                As far as hotlink protection, we at AntiHotLinking.com will be happy to accomodate your needs. :-) if you decide to make your movies downloadable or "stream" them via ActivX plugins from your pages.

                                                                                                Lastly, two most commonly used formats for movies are MPEG and WMV. If you decide to use AVI(DivX), Real Media or QuickTime you will run into compatibility issues with your members. Everyone can play MPEG; every Windows user can play WMV. For the other formats, your surfers will have to download codecs, install plugins, and download players. And if you convert your movies to MPEG or WMV with correct settings, there is no advatage to use .avi .rm or .mov

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                                                                                                  • lEricPl
                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                    • Dec 2002
                                                                                                    • 1062
                                                                                                    #75
                                                                                                    Originally posted by VirtuMike
                                                                                                    I have many OS's running in our own farms. We have some solaris, some linux, some freebsd, and win2k. I'll tell you the 2k boxes are quite stable. I've had one that was running for almost a full year before I remembered it was still serving and probably needed some updating.

                                                                                                    I can say this for Windows. It's FAST. REALLY REALLY fast. From what I have seen you can kick the crap out of any tweaked out apache with a simple out of the box 2k. It laughs at apache's open connection issue.

                                                                                                    I sat throught a .NET 2003 demo at comdex and the guy said that a dual proc 2.4 could hit out 12,000 static hits a second. Out of the box. I think only Zeus can come near that. He also said drop in another two chips and you're at 16,500 hits a second. That's pretty fast.

                                                                                                    If you plan to run paysites on windows you NEED a pricy bit of software called WebQuota. It's THE software to deal with passwords on windows. Nothing is even close to it. I've been running that software since 1997 and it's still really the only game in town.

                                                                                                    To do a live webcam show you pretty much need to get a windows server and use windows media. There are other ways to do it but they suck.

                                                                                                    My advice to you is to join one of the cam networks and use their media servers. By doing that you also get all their girls on your site (usually like 30 girls and it's up 7 nights a week) - AND you get THEM to pay the video feed hosting bill. So you get good daily live content, you save in hosting, and you even get to upsell someone else's members on your site.

                                                                                                    You're welcome. Now BUY MY CONTENT!


                                                                                                    FINALLY.

                                                                                                    Someone who has actually configured a Windows box the right way!

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                                                                                                      • iroc409
                                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                                        • Jan 2003
                                                                                                        • 4728
                                                                                                        #76
                                                                                                        ahahahah. people actually consider using windows for servers?

                                                                                                        yeah, asp is the only area that i think there would be a need for it. windows servers are a joke.

                                                                                                        sure, my xp desktop is fairly reliable, but there are way too many advantages to running *nix it's not even a comparison.

                                                                                                        everyone remembers it was windows servers that shut off the internet a couple months back? lol.
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                                                                                                          • lEricPl
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                                                                                                            • Dec 2002
                                                                                                            • 1062
                                                                                                            #77
                                                                                                            Originally posted by iroc409
                                                                                                            ahahahah. people actually consider using windows for servers?

                                                                                                            yeah, asp is the only area that i think there would be a need for it. windows servers are a joke.

                                                                                                            sure, my xp desktop is fairly reliable, but there are way too many advantages to running *nix it's not even a comparison.

                                                                                                            everyone remembers it was windows servers that shut off the internet a couple months back? lol.
                                                                                                            So, have you used a Windows box lately?

                                                                                                            Also, the cause of the worm spreading so fast was becuase people did not update their box in the 6 MONTHS Microsoft told them too.

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                                                                                                              • iroc409
                                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                                • Jan 2003
                                                                                                                • 4728
                                                                                                                #78
                                                                                                                Originally posted by lEricPl


                                                                                                                So, have you used a Windows box lately?

                                                                                                                Also, the cause of the worm spreading so fast was becuase people did not update their box in the 6 MONTHS Microsoft told them too.

                                                                                                                not for a while, besides my desktop. but why did microsoft build a system that was inherently flawed?

                                                                                                                no, i stay very, very far away from M$ servers. partly due to my experience with their reliability, party due to their licensing, etc etc.

                                                                                                                i've never seen a windows box be more reliable than a *nix box, even crappy ones. the most reliable box i've ever owned out of any machine is an IBM 486SLC2 50 laptop with FreeBSD 2.2.6. that's combined with servers and desktops. still purrs like a kitten.

                                                                                                                hell, you want something that's powerful? go get yersef an as/400. that's something not-*nix that's truly impressive


                                                                                                                and yes, it still makes me wonder, if windows is so damn great, why is *nix the choice of hosts/isps? i know a lot of the guys in the business, and they won't touch a windows box unless mandatory
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                                                                                                                  • lEricPl
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                                                                                                                    • Dec 2002
                                                                                                                    • 1062
                                                                                                                    #79
                                                                                                                    Originally posted by iroc409



                                                                                                                    not for a while, besides my desktop. but why did microsoft build a system that was inherently flawed?

                                                                                                                    no, i stay very, very far away from M$ servers. partly due to my experience with their reliability, party due to their licensing, etc etc.

                                                                                                                    i've never seen a windows box be more reliable than a *nix box, even crappy ones. the most reliable box i've ever owned out of any machine is an IBM 486SLC2 50 laptop with FreeBSD 2.2.6. that's combined with servers and desktops. still purrs like a kitten.

                                                                                                                    hell, you want something that's powerful? go get yersef an as/400. that's something not-*nix that's truly impressive


                                                                                                                    and yes, it still makes me wonder, if windows is so damn great, why is *nix the choice of hosts/isps? i know a lot of the guys in the business, and they won't touch a windows box unless mandatory

                                                                                                                    I seriously think the reason why so many people use Unix is becuse of the bad impression Windows NT made.

                                                                                                                    NT was basically a very bad Beta for Windows 2000.




                                                                                                                    A tweeked out W2K/2003 box can kick some serious ass though.

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                                                                                                                      • iroc409
                                                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                                                        • Jan 2003
                                                                                                                        • 4728
                                                                                                                        #80
                                                                                                                        Originally posted by lEricPl



                                                                                                                        I seriously think the reason why so many people use Unix is becuse of the bad impression Windows NT made.

                                                                                                                        NT was basically a very bad Beta for Windows 2000.




                                                                                                                        A tweeked out W2K/2003 box can kick some serious ass though.

                                                                                                                        windows in general leaves a bad taste in my mouth. just a lot of things that seem like they should work, and they don't, or it makes it a hassle to do a lot of things.

                                                                                                                        i used to really like 2000, but the desktop version really irked me. when it crashed, it CRASHED and there was no bringing it back

                                                                                                                        and the troubleshooting process was so fucking wierd. you'd go through the install, and it'd say "advanced mode" or whatever and the *only* thing it would ever let me do was copy files from the cd to the hard drive. ok, if it's so advanced, why would it only let me do the exact thing that the automated setup did? i wouldn't even let me be in other directories in the system then.

                                                                                                                        there's just so many quirky things with windows. with unix, you can get in, get things done, and get the fuck out. and, do it reliably.

                                                                                                                        even xp, which i think is their most reliable product to date (i've not used any .net products), is still really screwy. it's not nearly as reliable as any *nix box. and, it takes so much freaking resources it's insane. when i installed xp i had to get a faster processor just to run the same software with 98/2000. and now it keeps getting this crazy quirk that all of the sudden it decides none of my browsers can access the internet... and does it until i reboot or release/renew.


                                                                                                                        i'll give them credit though, m$ made good software for the masses, with most of the stuff pretty easy to do. granted *nix can be a lot more difficult to set up, but once it's there, it's there for good
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                                                                                                                          • ServerGenius
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                                                                                                                            • Feb 2002
                                                                                                                            • 9377
                                                                                                                            #81
                                                                                                                            Originally posted by iroc409
                                                                                                                            ahahahah. people actually consider using windows for servers?

                                                                                                                            yeah, asp is the only area that i think there would be a need for it. windows servers are a joke.

                                                                                                                            sure, my xp desktop is fairly reliable, but there are way too many advantages to running *nix it's not even a comparison.

                                                                                                                            everyone remembers it was windows servers that shut off the internet a couple months back? lol.
                                                                                                                            As long as windows is depending on DLL's it will be crap.
                                                                                                                            Why the hell do you have to reboot your server after you
                                                                                                                            have changed a system/network setting.

                                                                                                                            The same if you touch a network setting.

                                                                                                                            Remote administration sucks and is redigolous insecure.

                                                                                                                            Local security sucks once you're logged on it's absurd easy to
                                                                                                                            gain admin rights.

                                                                                                                            Windows is extremely inefficient with system resources like
                                                                                                                            memory and CPU.

                                                                                                                            Why do I have to reboot in 60% of the cases when I have
                                                                                                                            installed new software?

                                                                                                                            Why does it take an hour to install the Windows?

                                                                                                                            Why does it take at least 2 months before a patch for a
                                                                                                                            new found security hole is available?

                                                                                                                            Why do they release their software while every week new
                                                                                                                            exploits are being found. "Stable" releases are 10 times worse
                                                                                                                            than Unix beta-releases

                                                                                                                            Should I continue?

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                                                                                                                              • iroc409
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                                                                                                                                • Jan 2003
                                                                                                                                • 4728
                                                                                                                                #82
                                                                                                                                although... still considering setting up my own 2000 server box for my lan, i've got a copy here. but i've been kinda afraid to use it. does w2k server have the same file system bug that w2k sp1 had? that was suck.

                                                                                                                                anybody have lan boxes running? was thinking i'd maybe just throw xp on it instead, it's just for file/print sharing anyways.

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                                                                                                                                  • iroc409
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                                                                                                                                    • Jan 2003
                                                                                                                                    • 4728
                                                                                                                                    #83
                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by DynaSpain


                                                                                                                                    As long as windows is depending on DLL's it will be crap.
                                                                                                                                    Why the hell do you have to reboot your server after you
                                                                                                                                    have changed a system/network setting.

                                                                                                                                    The same if you touch a network setting.

                                                                                                                                    Remote administration sucks and is redigolous insecure.

                                                                                                                                    Local security sucks once you're logged on it's absurd easy to
                                                                                                                                    gain admin rights.

                                                                                                                                    Windows is extremely inefficient with system resources like
                                                                                                                                    memory and CPU.

                                                                                                                                    Why do I have to reboot in 60% of the cases when I have
                                                                                                                                    installed new software?

                                                                                                                                    Why does it take an hour to install the Windows?

                                                                                                                                    Why does it take at least 2 months before a patch for a
                                                                                                                                    new found security hole is available?

                                                                                                                                    Why do they release their software while every week new
                                                                                                                                    exploits are being found. "Stable" releases are 10 times worse
                                                                                                                                    than Unix beta-releases

                                                                                                                                    Should I continue?

                                                                                                                                    DynaMite
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                                                                                                                                      • lEricPl
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                                                                                                                                        • Dec 2002
                                                                                                                                        • 1062
                                                                                                                                        #84
                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by DynaSpain


                                                                                                                                        Remote administration sucks and is redigolous insecure.

                                                                                                                                        Local security sucks once you're logged on it's absurd easy to
                                                                                                                                        gain admin rights.

                                                                                                                                        Should I continue?

                                                                                                                                        DynaMite

                                                                                                                                        It sounds like you don't know how to configure a w2k box properly.

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                                                                                                                                          • ServerGenius
                                                                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                            • Feb 2002
                                                                                                                                            • 9377
                                                                                                                                            #85
                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by lEricPl



                                                                                                                                            It sounds like you don't know how to configure a w2k box properly.
                                                                                                                                            Actually I do......which is the exact reason why I mentioned
                                                                                                                                            those facts. I don't make this up....search some security sites
                                                                                                                                            and you'll be suprised how many unresolved security bugs
                                                                                                                                            there are.....if you read what causes these exploits you will
                                                                                                                                            understand what I mean.

                                                                                                                                            Another issue that I like to bring to your attention is that
                                                                                                                                            Mr. Gates is trying to keep an eye on everything I do on my
                                                                                                                                            windows machine.

                                                                                                                                            I will dig a few incidents that you can verify inmediately as a
                                                                                                                                            proof of what I'm saying. Will post them shortly.

                                                                                                                                            Don't get me wrong I have nothing against windows. For some
                                                                                                                                            tasks it's extremely good to use. But for other tasks it just sucks
                                                                                                                                            From all the things that I've mentioned you cannot find anything
                                                                                                                                            which makes my claims false. Go ahead give it a try.

                                                                                                                                            I've a lot of experience with many different OS systems
                                                                                                                                            Freebsd, linux (any flavour), OpenBSD, NetBSD, Solaris, SunOS,
                                                                                                                                            Irix (SGI), Win* (except NET) If tomorrow Windows proofs it's
                                                                                                                                            better, more secure and more stable than Unix, I will switch
                                                                                                                                            tomorrow it's as simple as that. I want the best solution to get
                                                                                                                                            the job done and I don't give a fuck what brand name is on the
                                                                                                                                            box.

                                                                                                                                            DynaMite

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                                                                                                                                              • iroc409
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                                                                                                                                                • Jan 2003
                                                                                                                                                • 4728
                                                                                                                                                #86
                                                                                                                                                yeah, dunno if it's the same with the servers, but that new stuff in desktop platforms that sends info to M$ about all of the software you use and your surfing habits and such is pretty disturbing. i realize it's a marketing ploy and all, but IMO they don't need to know jack or shit about what i run and where i surf.

                                                                                                                                                kinda like the whole intel footprint deal with the processors. glad that got basically whacked down, for the time being.

                                                                                                                                                not only that but it really annoys me when i'm completely idle but my computer is going nuts on the network. that's not cool.
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                                                                                                                                                  • ServerGenius
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                                                                                                                                                    • Feb 2002
                                                                                                                                                    • 9377
                                                                                                                                                    #87
                                                                                                                                                    Here is some reading material. The site itself is biased but it
                                                                                                                                                    contains a ton of information backed by many credible IT security
                                                                                                                                                    and news organisations.

                                                                                                                                                    http://www.windows-sucks.com/content/whatsbad.shtml

                                                                                                                                                    http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/18002.html

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                                                                                                                                                      • kmanrox
                                                                                                                                                        aka K-Man
                                                                                                                                                        • Oct 2001
                                                                                                                                                        • 29295
                                                                                                                                                        #88
                                                                                                                                                        from what i can gather, ALL of the big guys and people making a GOOD living in this biz use UNIX based OS for servers... Granted Gates is getting a little better with each new release of NT mutations, but Unix is always and in the foreseeable future be the most stable OS around....
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                                                                                                                                                          • scooby doo as scooby does
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                                                                                                                                                            • Nov 2002
                                                                                                                                                            • 314
                                                                                                                                                            #89
                                                                                                                                                            I'm not a true expert in either Nix or W2K server administration, but I have done both. It makes me laugh some Nix peoples reactions to windows these days. It's like they were indoctrinated at birth and can't get over it.

                                                                                                                                                            I mean, how many posts on here have spouted out about windows security issues ? Prolly the very same people complaining about there Nix based adult site being brute force hacked. And yes, that is a security issue! Fucking lousy Nix security.

                                                                                                                                                            Don't get me wrong, I use Nix on my servers, but some of you die hard anti-windows guys gotta grow up a bit....
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                                                                                                                                                              • smashface
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                                                                                                                                                                • Sep 2002
                                                                                                                                                                • 991
                                                                                                                                                                #90
                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by SandraWang


                                                                                                                                                                Hi, SmashFace this looks interesting too, I looked at their site. Seems like it's free, but that sounds too good to be true... Or?

                                                                                                                                                                - Will this system stream all kinds of files, .wmv also?

                                                                                                                                                                - Is it possible to keep members from downloading the clips on this system?

                                                                                                                                                                - And can it run on my dedicated webserver without "crashing" with other stuff on the server?
                                                                                                                                                                I only used this with MP3 streaming and it worked well. I didnt test it under a heavy load though.

                                                                                                                                                                It supports MPEG-4 and Quicktime, no Windows Media or Real support.

                                                                                                                                                                As for protecting the clips, I dont think you can go directly to the file and save it. But there is probably some hack which allows you to archive a stream.

                                                                                                                                                                Hope this helps, SF

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                                                                                                                                                                  • chupacabra
                                                                                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                    • Sep 2002
                                                                                                                                                                    • 3626
                                                                                                                                                                    #91
                                                                                                                                                                    As for protecting the clips, I dont think you can go directly to the file and save it. But there is probably some hack which allows you to archive a stream.
                                                                                                                                                                    agreed... this is why if your only reason for wanting to stream your media is to protect it against sharing/piracy, don't bother... its not worth jumping through hoops over. just be sure to stamp/watermark your media down in one corner, and let the pirates promote your site indirectly. oh, and vær så snill og sug på mitt stort redskap, det heller varm flytende kjærlighet inn i deres sulten munn..!
                                                                                                                                                                    ...promise her a defamation, tell her where the rain will fall..

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                                                                                                                                                                      • SandraWang
                                                                                                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                        • Jun 2002
                                                                                                                                                                        • 309
                                                                                                                                                                        #92
                                                                                                                                                                        Wow, I just wake up, and boom lots of new information on my thread... I dont know where to start...

                                                                                                                                                                        Yesterday I decided to tell my host to take away Windows, and reinstall my server to Unix, but haven't got any response yet, so I'm not sure what's happening. After reading all the replies in this thread, I am getting more and more confused what OS would be best for me... Now I got some VERY good reasons to use Windows too... Gah

                                                                                                                                                                        VirtuMike gave me some very good reasons... That made me think. Hehe yes actually your Got Jizz content also looks very tempting ;)

                                                                                                                                                                        I understand there will always be arguings between Windows and *nix lovers, and both sides are making good resons why their system is the best.

                                                                                                                                                                        The main reason I think Unix will be best for me, is that I have very little knowledge about runnning servers, so I am dependent on the support I get from my hosting if troubble shows up. And since they tell me they have little experience with Windows, but they have very good experience with Unix, I feel that I would be more relaxed to run an OS that they could give me the best support on. I am so scared to fuck up my site....

                                                                                                                                                                        To those who recommend joining a CamNetwork, I am already in a CamNetwork (Camz), and I'm very satisfied with them. They use Windows Streaming. But I don't want to send my members over to their site in every camshow I do, I want to do some camshows for my own members only too, that makes them feel more important and closer to me.

                                                                                                                                                                        X3m, I would love to hear more about your AntiHotLink system...

                                                                                                                                                                        I see you tell me it's no use to try to keep my videoclips 100% protected, since they will get spread sooner or later anyway. So maybe I should just forget the whole streaming thing, and let them download everything... Cuz yes, the ONLY reason I wanted streaming, is that I wanted to keep my content protected...
                                                                                                                                                                        But then I will put a big URL on the bottom of each video at least... Is there some other things I can do with them to keep an eye on where my content is, and if someone has stolen my content, using it on their paysite for example? Thats my worst scenario...

                                                                                                                                                                        Regarding the format of the videoclips, if I let them download it all: You say that .wmv is the only GOOD quality, but .mpg is the only format everyone can see? I hear the surfers love mpgs...
                                                                                                                                                                        What format should I use?

                                                                                                                                                                        Security of my site is ofcourse very important, and I see lots of you say Windows have bad security compared to Unix, and those who have good knowledge about Windows say the opposite. But since my host have their best experience with Unix, I would think they could set up better security with Unix, than with Windows, since they are not windows experts.


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                                                                                                                                                                          • ServerGenius
                                                                                                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                            • Feb 2002
                                                                                                                                                                            • 9377
                                                                                                                                                                            #93
                                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by scooby doo as scooby does
                                                                                                                                                                            I'm not a true expert in either Nix or W2K server administration, but I have done both. It makes me laugh some Nix peoples reactions to windows these days. It's like they were indoctrinated at birth and can't get over it.

                                                                                                                                                                            I mean, how many posts on here have spouted out about windows security issues ? Prolly the very same people complaining about there Nix based adult site being brute force hacked. And yes, that is a security issue! Fucking lousy Nix security.

                                                                                                                                                                            Don't get me wrong, I use Nix on my servers, but some of you die hard anti-windows guys gotta grow up a bit....
                                                                                                                                                                            You have just proven to world that you're an idiot.....thank you
                                                                                                                                                                            for clearing that up......

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                                                                                                                                                                              • scooby doo as scooby does
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                                                                                                                                                                                • Nov 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                • 314
                                                                                                                                                                                #94
                                                                                                                                                                                You have just proven to world that you're an idiot.....thank you
                                                                                                                                                                                Your welcome.
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                                                                                                                                                                                  • x3m
                                                                                                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                    • May 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                    • 256
                                                                                                                                                                                    #95
                                                                                                                                                                                    SandraWang,

                                                                                                                                                                                    AHL is used by several our customers to protect movies in members areas. Please get in touch with me at [email protected] so we can talk about the specifics of your setup if you will decide to go with the downloadable movies. Actually, ISPrime techs have already installed AHL for several of their clients and can probably do it for you too.

                                                                                                                                                                                    AS far as formats...

                                                                                                                                                                                    Normally, for promotion you should probably stay with MPEG. It's accepted at all MGP's, TGP's and will be viewed by everybody.

                                                                                                                                                                                    For your members area, you can use MPEGS as well, but WMV's will allow you to encode your movies with smaller file sizes for comparable quality.

                                                                                                                                                                                    A good site to get your feet wet in movie editing is: http://www.dvdrhelp.com/

                                                                                                                                                                                    Essential tools for movie cutting, editing, converting: Adobe Premier, VirtualDub (free), BBMpeg (free), Avi2Mpeg (free).

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                                                                                                                                                                                      • chupacabra
                                                                                                                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                        • Sep 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                        • 3626
                                                                                                                                                                                        #96
                                                                                                                                                                                        Regarding the format of the videoclips, if I let them download it all: You say that .wmv is the only GOOD quality, but .mpg is the only format everyone can see? I hear the surfers love mpgs...
                                                                                                                                                                                        well, the argument for Mpegs isn't as good as it used to be... since 90% or more of your surfers are going to be on Windows boxes, the .Wmv format is easy for near all of your visitors to use, since the Windows Media Player will automatically download and install any needed codecs to the surfers computer... this is where Divx and some of the other formats start to look unattractive, since the members must install some external software, whatever it is (Divx, RM, etc.)... since .Wmv offers good quality and filesize, we always use it w/ our paysites... i don't think Mpeg offers much benefit these days as compared to a few years ago..
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                                                                                                                                                                                          • rossiya2
                                                                                                                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                            • Nov 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                            • 287
                                                                                                                                                                                            #97
                                                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by iroc409

                                                                                                                                                                                            not for a while, besides my desktop. but why did microsoft build a system that was inherently flawed?
                                                                                                                                                                                            The basic code design in windows, based on their usage or CPU registers, mixes code with data. Since there is no current device to intercept buffer overflows that programmers [mis]design in their code, a cracker can manipulate both to quadratically improve his odds of access. Add to that windows inept security model where everything runs as the superuser, and you have a security hole so wide the only thing missing is invitations.
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                                                                                                                                                                                              • VirtuMike
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                                                                                                                                                                                                • May 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                                • 2483
                                                                                                                                                                                                #98
                                                                                                                                                                                                Surfers love mpegs because SURFERS LOVE TO STEAL YOUR CONTENT.

                                                                                                                                                                                                If content theft is your primary concern, watermark, stream from win2k with videoquota ($1600), AND use DRM. But that's not cheap.

                                                                                                                                                                                                Talk to Camz and find out if they'll let you run shows off the network. They also do amateurhosting.com and they're pretty good with the streaming video thing. My guess is that Dan or Robb will not have a problem picking up your video hosting. Be sure to let them know that I referred you and you'll probably get a discount. They charge by the gig so you might do really well there on your private show. There really isn't a great reason why you should put all of your stuff on one server, besides cost.

                                                                                                                                                                                                In your situation, I would probably run my paysite on linux and do my streams on camz on a private channel.

                                                                                                                                                                                                Once again you're welcome. When you do need good feeds let me know.
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                                                                                                                                                                                                  • ServerGenius
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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • Feb 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                                    • 9377
                                                                                                                                                                                                    #99
                                                                                                                                                                                                    DRM expensive?

                                                                                                                                                                                                    http://www.instantdrm.com/Site_Home.asp

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                                                                                                                                                                                                      • SandraWang
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                                        • Jun 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                                        • 309
                                                                                                                                                                                                        #100
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by VirtuMike
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Surfers love mpegs because SURFERS LOVE TO STEAL YOUR CONTENT.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        If content theft is your primary concern, watermark, stream from win2k with videoquota ($1600), AND use DRM. But that's not cheap.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        Talk to Camz and find out if they'll let you run shows off the network. They also do amateurhosting.com and they're pretty good with the streaming video thing. My guess is that Dan or Robb will not have a problem picking up your video hosting. Be sure to let them know that I referred you and you'll probably get a discount. They charge by the gig so you might do really well there on your private show. There really isn't a great reason why you should put all of your stuff on one server, besides cost.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        In your situation, I would probably run my paysite on linux and do my streams on camz on a private channel.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        Once again you're welcome. When you do need good feeds let me know.
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Actually I come right from AmateurHosting, but I just bought a dedicated on ISPrime instead. (Camz allowed shows outside the network before, but not anymore).

                                                                                                                                                                                                        I have talked to ISPrime again today, they still think I should go with the Windows since that is set up, and they think there won't be more problems. So I guess I'll give it a shot.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        VirtuMike: Where do I find VideoQuota? (URL)
                                                                                                                                                                                                        And can someone explain what DRM is, I haven't really understood that yet...What is it, how does it work, where do I get it..


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