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  • sickkittens
    I am a meat popsicle.
    • Jul 2002
    • 25100
    #1

    Why don't member areas have ads?

    I know it's pretty obvious but how come if someone buys a porno mag they get 40% porn and the rest ads and articles.

    How come pay sites never follow this system?

    I know "people don't want to see ads" and they can switch but would it that much adding ads?

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    • xxxoutsourcing
      Confirmed User
      • Oct 2003
      • 3888
      #2
      I think ads are great in a members area providing you don't over do it.
      We us them in some members area and make extra revenue as the surfers just keep on buying....

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        • TonyL
          Confirmed User
          • Feb 2002
          • 900
          #3
          Yes you should definetly use ads in your members area. If you don't you are losing extra potential revenue. Most of the larger programs do have upsell ads in there members area.

          Speaking of great non-competitive members area ads.
          can't beat $50 a sale:
          http://www.sizepro.com/webmasters

          -Tony

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            • JSA Matt
              So Fucking Banned
              • Aug 2003
              • 5464
              #4
              Do you care more about making a quick buck off your members or having them retain for 10 months?

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                • sickkittens
                  I am a meat popsicle.
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 25100
                  #5
                  Originally posted by JSA Matt
                  Do you care more about making a quick buck off your members or having them retain for 10 months?
                  I understand that but how come pay sites never incorporated them like magazines? I'm guessing b/c magazines are a few time use product? Whereas a web site updates.

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                    • BiggleJones
                      Confirmed User
                      • Dec 2002
                      • 2276
                      #6
                      I think that free cam feeds and video feeds (ie 247Live & pornication) pretty much act as a sites ads. I think that like HBO and other movie channels, if a person is paying for your service, you should try to keep them happy and not annoy them. I dont think 1 or 2 ads would really piss people off though.

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                        • psyko514
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                          • Oct 2002
                          • 22366
                          #7
                          Originally posted by TonyL
                          Yes you should definetly use ads in your members area. If you don't you are losing extra potential revenue. Most of the larger programs do have upsell ads in there members area.

                          Speaking of great non-competitive members area ads.
                          can't beat $50 a sale:
                          http://www.sizepro.com/webmasters

                          -Tony
                          i think i'll stick with sending my traffic to your competitors.
                          stick your spam elsewhere, asshat.

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                            • quiet
                              we'll miss you our friend. RIP
                              • Sep 2001
                              • 25115
                              #8
                              apparently you have been in many members areas. most have shitloads of upsells.

                              hell, even i've got a couple.
                              we'll miss you our friend. RIP

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                                • sickkittens
                                  I am a meat popsicle.
                                  • Jul 2002
                                  • 25100
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by quiet
                                  apparently you have been in many members areas. most have shitloads of upsells.

                                  hell, even i've got a couple.
                                  I know many do...but I'm talking about the % that magazines do vs. web sites.

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                                    • psyko514
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                                      • Oct 2002
                                      • 22366
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by sickkittens


                                      I know many do...but I'm talking about the % that magazines do vs. web sites.
                                      websites are more profitable then magazines.

                                      a magazine sells for $10 for 1 month and is quite costly to make.
                                      a website membership is usually $20-$40 a month and cheap to make.

                                      if you cram ads in the face of your paid members the same way a magazine does, they'll chargeback or cancel right away.

                                      lower your membership fee to $5 or $10 and you can probably get away with more ads.

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                                        • twistyneck
                                          So Fucking Banned
                                          • Jan 2002
                                          • 4660
                                          #11
                                          If I trusted sponsors, I wouldn't have my own paysites. And since I don't trust them, I sure as hell don't send my highly valued members to them.

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                                            • SoundMan
                                              So Fucking Banned
                                              • Nov 2003
                                              • 3471
                                              #12
                                              I have 4 or so NON-MIS-LEADING ads in my members area.
                                              the members are paying CC users so upsells are possible.
                                              just dont piss em-off as rebils will go down...

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                                                • quiet
                                                  we'll miss you our friend. RIP
                                                  • Sep 2001
                                                  • 25115
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by twistyneck
                                                  If I trusted sponsors, I wouldn't have my own paysites. And since I don't trust them, I sure as hell don't send my highly valued members to them.
                                                  i only sell a couple of non-adult products. i'd never send them to another paysite.
                                                  we'll miss you our friend. RIP

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                                                    • jfpjeff
                                                      Registered User
                                                      • May 2003
                                                      • 53
                                                      #14
                                                      porno mags make most of their money off of ad space, where we make the most of our money off the membership fee
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                                                        • smack
                                                          Push Porn Like Weight.
                                                          • Mar 2002
                                                          • 10652
                                                          #15
                                                          i would be iffy about sending my members to another site. kind of a "the grass is always greener on the other side" poin of view. what if you were to upsell you own sites inside member areas?
                                                          Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war.

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                                                            • DVTimes
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                                                              • Jun 2003
                                                              • 31658
                                                              #16
                                                              Magazines make most of there cash from advertising.

                                                              People are happy with adds in magazines, and some may even buy a magazine for the adverts, i.e., I buy a PC mag to see what PC bits I can buy, rather than the articles. Some buy a porn mag for the contact numbers (i.e. phone sex lines). So they have a place in magazines.

                                                              On websites, people are after content. Add adverts to your members area, and I myself would feel very unhappy about paying a fee to see it, if I see adds. OK, a banner or two is ok, but I paid for content not adverts. I would suspect more adverts you place, the less time members will stay.

                                                              Plus, these days many people suspect (I do) that some adverts have horrid code in them that places junk on your PC. Each day I am using AD software to remove junk that has some how got on my PC.
                                                              XXX

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                                                                • smproduction
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Jan 2003
                                                                  • 508
                                                                  #17
                                                                  They are annoying for the members, but if you offer interesting ads(same niche for example) then they will be also productive
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                                                                    • V_RocKs
                                                                      Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                                                                      • Nov 2003
                                                                      • 32449
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Why doesn't the interior side of your cars windshield have ads?

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                                                                        • Darren
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Sep 2001
                                                                          • 5994
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Ok do not spout theories in this thread if u have not got experience with doing both.

                                                                          Our retention rate with adverts is just as good with adverts, just put them in associated places or setup special discounts for your members.

                                                                          Your losing a lot of money if you do not do this, www.mensniche.com is of course a great upsell we upsell to all our sites in every member area.


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                                                                            • Darren
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Sep 2001
                                                                              • 5994
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by V_RocKs
                                                                              Why doesn't the interior side of your cars windshield have ads?
                                                                              i would just like to point out that it probably does, cars come with manuals which usually show other models of cars, also come with details on where to get serviced from eg their dealers... stickers are usually on a car saying "ford & then location purchased from"

                                                                              Landrovers usually have covers on the spare wheel on the back again advertising the actual dealership you purchase from... tax discs usually have "breakdown service number" or similiar on the back...

                                                                              Fuck ur entire car is a drivable advertisement with the brand name on it!!

                                                                              oh and lets not forget how they usually all have free clubs they sign you up to and send you details of new models and their top insurance companies etc etc

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                                                                                • Darren
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Sep 2001
                                                                                  • 5994
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by smack
                                                                                  i would be iffy about sending my members to another site. kind of a "the grass is always greener on the other side" poin of view. what if you were to upsell you own sites inside member areas?
                                                                                  send them to non XXX stuff.

                                                                                  www.volumepills.com for example.


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                                                                                    • Darren
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Sep 2001
                                                                                      • 5994
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by quiet


                                                                                      i only sell a couple of non-adult products. i'd never send them to another paysite.
                                                                                      agreed that would not make sense at all.


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                                                                                        • Kicker
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                                                                                          • Apr 2002
                                                                                          • 7040
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by JSA Matt
                                                                                          Do you care more about making a quick buck off your members or having them retain for 10 months?
                                                                                          Agree.

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                                                                                            • Darren
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                                                                                              • Sep 2001
                                                                                              • 5994
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by Kicker


                                                                                              Agree.

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