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  • gothweb
    Confirmed User
    • Jun 2002
    • 8849

    #1

    Affiliate / Amateur Opportunity here...

    It strikes me that there is a real opportunity for some affiliate program to come up with a way to promote independent sites in a way that works well for everyone. A lot of lessons can be learned from those of us who tried to partner with someone anf had it go horribly wrong. I bet there's a huge business opportunity in there for someone.

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  • Fletch XXX
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    • Jan 2002
    • 60840

    #2
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    • Carrie
      Confirmed User
      • Apr 2002
      • 3162

      #3
      It strikes me that there is a real opportunity for some affiliate program to come up with a way to promote independent sites in a way that works well for everyone.
      Sure. It's called CCBill.

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      • gothweb
        Confirmed User
        • Jun 2002
        • 8849

        #4
        Affiliates are a big part of why my sales have tripled. I don't think I'd do a partnership again, but there must be a lot of people who want to run their sites, not find traffic for them. An affiliate that catered to them could help keep things interesting in an age of corporate conglomeration in porn.

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        • gothweb
          Confirmed User
          • Jun 2002
          • 8849

          #5
          Originally posted by Carrie

          Sure. It's called CCBill.
          I was thinking in terms of promoting the site to potential affiliates, etc. I know how the CCBill system works, but it's a back-end, not a program.

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          • stocktrader23
            Let's do some business.
            • Jan 2003
            • 18781

            #6
            Gothweb, do any of your models do webcam shows either on your sites or on third party websites?


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            • StacyCat
              Confirmed User
              • May 2002
              • 1167

              #7
              Originally posted by gothweb


              I was thinking in terms of promoting the site to potential affiliates, etc. I know how the CCBill system works, but it's a back-end, not a program.
              so, the program would be a massive listing of amateur programs?

              Kinda like, promoteamateurs.com ?

              Or maybe like an affilaite program for affiliates? You send to this one site that lists all these other sites, and get webmaster refferals for who you send?

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              • flashfreak
                Confirmed User
                • Jun 2002
                • 4396

                #8
                well I have smth in mind... but I didn't have time to make it work...
                I made a game for Archer, The Perfect Match.
                You have to select your preferences from a quizz and then a pic appears, based on your preference..

                My ideea was to promote amateur girls with this game, to buy a catchy domain for it, and ask for photos from all amateur girls I can find.
                Then work on the questions (tthe game loads the questions /answers from a text file and can be setup to as many questions as I want thru the same text file ), sort the pics accordingly and modify the game a bit: when the girl pic appears put a button: "Visit her site" that links her site (with my referral of ocurse ;) )...

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                • gothweb
                  Confirmed User
                  • Jun 2002
                  • 8849

                  #9
                  Originally posted by stocktrader23
                  Gothweb, do any of your models do webcam shows either on your sites or on third party websites?
                  Vail has a refresh webcam. It is on a lot of the time just as a life cam, and she has four shows a week that show up on GothicAmateur.com and Blood Dolls.

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                  • gothweb
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jun 2002
                    • 8849

                    #10
                    Originally posted by StacyCat


                    so, the program would be a massive listing of amateur programs?

                    Kinda like, promoteamateurs.com ?

                    Or maybe like an affilaite program for affiliates? You send to this one site that lists all these other sites, and get webmaster refferals for who you send?
                    Maybe not massive. It could certainy have limiting criteria, so it doesn't get out of control size-wise. But, yeah, something like promoteamateurs... Though I know very little about the nuts and bolts of that program.

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                    • slapass
                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                      • Nov 2002
                      • 14625

                      #11
                      i thought I had read on this board that the big programs will do an exclusive partnership? Cybererotica does this I think and they are very apporoachable so it would be easy to ask. This might be more restrictive then you were thinking.
                      Another thought is Insite Adult is doing very targeted opt in email programs so maybe it is time for a Goth mag/ezine. Again Bobby Insite is very approachable.
                      I had some shower time after reading this thread and you got it instead of me. No new money ideas for my stuff. hehe

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                      • gothweb
                        Confirmed User
                        • Jun 2002
                        • 8849

                        #12
                        I think a lot of small webmasters would be timid about approaching some big program and talking about joinging up. I never considered the idea that some of them might welcome just such a thing...

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                        • Rictor
                          Old Timer
                          • Jan 2001
                          • 12208

                          #13
                          Lightspeed is always looking for sites, I believe.

                          A lot of the big companies seem to be looking for fresh sites and ideas. Another idea is to duplicate your site with a different name and tour and pitch it to one of these programs. They could have a goth site in their portfolio and you could have access to their webmasters but also keep your own site intact.

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                          • fnet
                            Confirmed User
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 1721

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Rictor
                            Lightspeed is always looking for sites, I believe.

                            A lot of the big companies seem to be looking for fresh sites and ideas. Another idea is to duplicate your site with a different name and tour and pitch it to one of these programs. They could have a goth site in their portfolio and you could have access to their webmasters but also keep your own site intact.
                            I used to think of lightspeed at the premier conglomerate for high profile affliate promotion of independent sites, but it seems like they're now streamlining toward a certain image.

                            There is an empty space in which this idea will work; I think it's proven. There are a few necessary elements.
                            Last edited by fnet; 04-18-2003, 07:34 PM.
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                            • kisskatlyn
                              Confirmed User
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 433

                              #15
                              Originally posted by gothweb
                              Affiliates are a big part of why my sales have tripled. I don't think I'd do a partnership again, but there must be a lot of people who want to run their sites, not find traffic for them. An affiliate that catered to them could help keep things interesting in an age of corporate conglomeration in porn.
                              Y'know...it's not just girls who can't find traffic, lots of amateur sites being run by the girl and not a webmaster may not get as much traffic because sometimes the girls are too busy to promote as well as they could. (such as girls in college/university like myself). I'm sure if I had more time or had a photographer to take photos instead of using a tripod (thus making photo taking much much quicker) I could make better sales.

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                              • BritishTwinks
                                Confirmed User
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 357

                                #16
                                We're a fairly new program and a couple of people have already asked us to put their sites in our portfolio, so I guess most programs will have had lots of requests for this. In theory, I think it's a good idea - but you obviously need to be careful. I guess the key is to find a program that deals with similar niches but doesn't have similar sites.

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                                • DirtyDanza
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                                  • Aug 2002
                                  • 8375

                                  #17
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                                  • TheFLY
                                    So Fucking Banned
                                    • Jan 2001
                                    • 11856

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by kisskatlyn


                                    Y'know...it's not just girls who can't find traffic, lots of amateur sites being run by the girl and not a webmaster may not get as much traffic because sometimes the girls are too busy to promote as well as they could. (such as girls in college/university like myself). I'm sure if I had more time or had a photographer to take photos instead of using a tripod (thus making photo taking much much quicker) I could make better sales.
                                    ASL ?

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                                    • TheFLY
                                      So Fucking Banned
                                      • Jan 2001
                                      • 11856

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by kisskatlyn


                                      Y'know...it's not just girls who can't find traffic, lots of amateur sites being run by the girl and not a webmaster may not get as much traffic because sometimes the girls are too busy to promote as well as they could. (such as girls in college/university like myself). I'm sure if I had more time or had a photographer to take photos instead of using a tripod (thus making photo taking much much quicker) I could make better sales.
                                      What's your site?

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                                      • fnet
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Jul 2002
                                        • 1721

                                        #20
                                        This thread disintegrated.
                                        the sound of one hand googlewhacking

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                                        • gothweb
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Jun 2002
                                          • 8849

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by fnet
                                          This thread disintegrated.
                                          What thread on here doesn't?

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                                          • fnet
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Jul 2002
                                            • 1721

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by gothweb


                                            What thread on here doesn't?
                                            'The Fly is a Genius'
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                                            • gothweb
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Jun 2002
                                              • 8849

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by fnet


                                              'The Fly is a Genius'
                                              That one kinda started out fucked.

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                                              • fnet
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Jul 2002
                                                • 1721

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by gothweb


                                                That one kinda started out fucked.
                                                Don't we all. A problem with this thread is that it gives away some opportunity without cementing a plan.
                                                the sound of one hand googlewhacking

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