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  • bogo
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    • Jun 2002
    • 1982

    #1

    what sponsers do you suspect shaving?

    ill go first

    nastydollars
    pornprofit
    cen
  • mrthumbs
    salad tossing sig guy
    • Apr 2002
    • 11702

    #2

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    • polish_aristocrat
      Too lazy to set a custom title
      • Jul 2002
      • 40377

      #3
      Originally posted by mrthumbs
      you can always make a test sign up with them
      I don't use ICQ anymore.

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      • bogo
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        • Jun 2002
        • 1982

        #4
        Originally posted by mrthumbs
        ouch, Ars is actually one of my best sponsers..

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        • Dirty F
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          • Jul 2001
          • 59204

          #5

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          • Blaze
            Confirmed User
            • Oct 2001
            • 298

            #6
            Ohh come on guys. All per signup sponsers shave. Some perhaps more then others. Just use the ones that send you the biggest check and dont worry about ratios.

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            • galleryseek
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              • Mar 2002
              • 8234

              #7
              Originally posted by Blaze
              Ohh come on guys. All per signup sponsers shave. Some perhaps more then others. Just use the ones that send you the biggest check and dont worry about ratios.
              where at in ohio do you live? im northeastern, warren.

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              • Lane
                Will code for food...
                • Apr 2001
                • 8496

                #8
                stupid threads like this makes sponsors feel more comfortable about shaving...

                good job, keep it up.

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                • Dirty F
                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                  • Jul 2001
                  • 59204

                  #9
                  Im still promoting ars...from all the sponsors they made me the most in the last 2 years but the way their ratios go up and down from 1:100 to 1:10000 is just ridiculous. But i agree with blaze.

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                  • DearAbby
                    Confirmed User
                    • Nov 2002
                    • 979

                    #10
                    Most all sponsors shave

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                    • Luc Duboi
                      So Fucking Banned
                      • Mar 2003
                      • 1881

                      #11
                      what is a sponser?

                      it should be SPONXOR, bitch.

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                      • xerox
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                        • Feb 2003
                        • 672

                        #12
                        Iv been getting 6+ signups a day with nastydollars, but today, I havent gotten shit. Im not saying I suspect them of shaving, but Im keeping my eyes open

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                        • gothweb
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                          • Jun 2002
                          • 8849

                          #13
                          Originally posted by DearAbby
                          Most all sponsors shave
                          PPS ones, maybe.

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                          • DearAbby
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                            • Nov 2002
                            • 979

                            #14
                            Originally posted by xerox
                            Iv been getting 6+ signups a day with nastydollars, but today, I havent gotten shit. Im not saying I suspect them of shaving, but Im keeping my eyes open
                            I haven gotten a signup with them in weeks... however today I did get one.

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                            • Thrawn$
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                              • Apr 2002
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                              #15
                              They all shave!!
                              And if you think that sponsors with third part billing dont shave!
                              You are fucked in the ass!
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                              • bogo
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                                • Jun 2002
                                • 1982

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Lane
                                stupid threads like this makes sponsors feel more comfortable about shaving...

                                good job, keep it up.
                                actually threads like these are good,cause if sponsers are mentioned too many times of shaving,then traffic will stop being sent,and see how fast they shape up.

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                                • Exxxotica
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                                  • Jan 2001
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by bogo


                                  actually threads like these are good,cause if sponsers are mentioned too many times of shaving,then traffic will stop being sent,and see how fast they shape up.
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                                  • Ian
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                                    • Oct 2002
                                    • 1259

                                    #18
                                    We don't shave. We never have and we never will.

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                                    • Lane
                                      Will code for food...
                                      • Apr 2001
                                      • 8496

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by bogo


                                      actually threads like these are good,cause if sponsers are mentioned too many times of shaving,then traffic will stop being sent,and see how fast they shape up.
                                      not if people keep saying "all sponsors shave", like it should be an accepted fact

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                                      • gothweb
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                                        • Jun 2002
                                        • 8849

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Thrawn$
                                        They all shave!!
                                        And if you think that sponsors with third part billing dont shave!
                                        You are fucked in the ass!
                                        ]

                                        I use third-party billing and tracking from CCBill. I'd love to hear how a program like that could shave.

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                                        • ServerGenius
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                                          • Feb 2002
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by gothweb
                                          ]

                                          I use third-party billing and tracking from CCBill. I'd love to hear how a program like that could shave.
                                          This is actually very simple....log into your CCbill admin and click
                                          around. You can set a variable that determines how many times
                                          affiliates get credited with recurring members.

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                                          • SinEmpire
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                                            • Nov 2001
                                            • 9813

                                            #22
                                            Every per sign up and per click program shaves... except maybe a FEW. Very sad!

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                                            • gothweb
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                                              • Jun 2002
                                              • 8849

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by DynaSpain


                                              This is actually very simple....log into your CCbill admin and click
                                              around. You can set a variable that determines how many times
                                              affiliates get credited with recurring members.

                                              DynaMite
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                                              • Blaze
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                                                • Oct 2001
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by galleryseek


                                                where at in ohio do you live? im northeastern, warren.

                                                Cleveland area.

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                                                • playa
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                                                  • Feb 2001
                                                  • 6432

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by DynaSpain


                                                  This is actually very simple....log into your CCbill admin and click
                                                  around. You can set a variable that determines how many times
                                                  affiliates get credited with recurring members.

                                                  DynaMite
                                                  ahh, i don't think that is what it was intended for. i seen that option before and with a partnership program it kinda of defeats the purpose

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                                                  • directfiesta
                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                    • Oct 2002
                                                    • 30178

                                                    #26
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                                                    • ServerGenius
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                                                      • Feb 2002
                                                      • 9377

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by playa


                                                      ahh, i don't think that is what it was intended for. i seen that option before and with a partnership program it kinda of defeats the purpose
                                                      I know it´s not intended for shaving......but that doesn´t mean
                                                      it cannot be used for shaving. That´s just 1 example there are
                                                      more options that could be used different then what they are
                                                      intended for.

                                                      Also there are quite a few tricks that one can use without using
                                                      the CCbill software......it requires very little creativity to come with
                                                      something.

                                                      My only point is just that third party programs/stats are no
                                                      guarantee that you can´t get shaved as a webmaster because
                                                      you can.


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                                                      • save11
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                                                        • Nov 2002
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                                                        #28
                                                        345682839

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                                                        • Snake Doctor
                                                          I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                                                          • Mar 2001
                                                          • 13449

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by mrthumbs
                                                          So what does that prove? That you sent your 404 traffic to Adult Movie Station all month and it sucked?



                                                          Originally posted by bogo

                                                          actually threads like these are good,cause if sponsers are mentioned too many times of shaving,then traffic will stop being sent,and see how fast they shape up.
                                                          That's bullshit, no one has been accused of shaving more than ARS, and nobody has more active webmasters than ARS.

                                                          All threads like this are good for is newbies who have been getting one signup a day for a week, then go 2 days without a signup, to join together in their pissing and moaning.
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                                                          • flashfire
                                                            ICQ 1 6 7 8 5 3 4 9 2
                                                            • Feb 2003
                                                            • 13098

                                                            #30
                                                            We shouldn't just accept shave cause everyone does it...this is flat out theft, I have swithed to dialers and international traffic and things are going great, dialer $$ is alot harder to shave from what I've seen.

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                                                            • BritishTwinks
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                                                              • Feb 2003
                                                              • 357

                                                              #31
                                                              Shaving is stealing and not all sponsors do it. If a company can't make money without shaving, they're in the wrong business.

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                                                              • foreverjason
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                                                                • Mar 2003
                                                                • 1452

                                                                #32
                                                                Shaving is stealing and not all sponsors do it. If a company can't make money without shaving, they're in the wrong business.
                                                                Well said

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                                                                • DatingGold
                                                                  $6 PER EMAIL JOiN
                                                                  • Feb 2003
                                                                  • 13185

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by foreverjason


                                                                  Well said
                                                                  I agree totally, we don't shave, we don't have to.

                                                                  We have realistic payouts, anyone thats paying $35 per trial is shaving for sure, there's no way.
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                                                                  • Minte
                                                                    Babemeister
                                                                    • Jun 2001
                                                                    • 7081

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by CashAddict
                                                                    Shaving is stealing and not all sponsors do it. If a company can't make money without shaving, they're in the wrong business.
                                                                    Well said..
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                                                                    • ServerGenius
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                                                                      • Feb 2002
                                                                      • 9377

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by DatingGold


                                                                      I agree totally, we don't shave, we don't have to.

                                                                      We have realistic payouts, anyone thats paying $35 per trial is shaving for sure, there's no way.
                                                                      For someone who runs a partnership program you make some
                                                                      fucking stupid statements.

                                                                      What the fuck do you know how others make money?

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                                                                      • ecko544
                                                                        So Fucking Banned
                                                                        • Mar 2003
                                                                        • 134

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Most of the sponsors who don't shave are like wegcash , freepassbucks per email..

                                                                        My best sponsor for signups that I am sure they don't shave is SilverCash..

                                                                        Nasty dollars i don't know ..
                                                                        WegCash : Average 1:6 (1,10$ per email) Don't shave
                                                                        FreePassBucks : Average 1:7 (1$ per email) Don't shave
                                                                        SilverCash: Average 1:150 (up to 80$ signup i think) Don't shave
                                                                        Nastydollars: Average 1:300 (35$ signup) Hmm dunno if they shave
                                                                        Orgasmcash: I sent 15 000 persons on my site for 10 days for them and only 1 sign up very suspicious .. i'm not using them anymore
                                                                        and ClickCash is a fucking scam

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                                                                        • some_idiot
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                                                                          • May 2002
                                                                          • 1511

                                                                          #37
                                                                          I'm always left to wonder with 'Hey is XXX down for you?' how
                                                                          much preceived shaving is just badly written affiliate software
                                                                          and system clitches.

                                                                          On a popular program what is the small percentage that are
                                                                          just 'lost' in the system?

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                                                                          • Pornkings
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Oct 2002
                                                                            • 5334

                                                                            #38
                                                                            we don't shave and we convert extremely well

                                                                            Like I've said before you can test us out anyway you want we don't shave. period

                                                                            so now you have nothing to complain about. if you don't try us out its your fault for getting shaved now
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                                                                            • Ambergirl
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                                                                              • Oct 2001
                                                                              • 1269

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by CashAddict
                                                                              Shaving is stealing and not all sponsors do it. If a company can't make money without shaving, they're in the wrong business.
                                                                              Indeed! And to elaborate, if a company can't make money without shaving...then they shouldn't be in business, period. They give all sponsor programs a bad name.

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                                                                              • Gimmy
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                                                                                • Jul 2002
                                                                                • 1069

                                                                                #40
                                                                                BIG PLAYERS SHAVE BIG TIME!!!!!!!!!!! How else they can afford to pay $50 per sign up.

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                                                                                • KRL
                                                                                  Entrepreneur
                                                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                                                  • 31429

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  WTF? Why should anyone get paid if someone signs up and cancels? Shaving offsets the cancels that happen after you've been paid $35 - $70 for a $2.99 transaction.

                                                                                  Come on and face reality.

                                                                                  Its not like sponsors shave so they can buy Ferrari's, Lambo's and Lear's . . . . .
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                                                                                  • Pointless
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                                                                                    • Jan 2003
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    this is one aspect of the industry that really makes me mad
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                                                                                    • Snake Doctor
                                                                                      I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                                                                                      • Mar 2001
                                                                                      • 13449

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by DatingGold


                                                                                      I agree totally, we don't shave, we don't have to.

                                                                                      We have realistic payouts, anyone thats paying $35 per trial is shaving for sure, there's no way.
                                                                                      You're full of shit.
                                                                                      TheDoc from largecash has explained the numbers at least half a dozen times on the board here.
                                                                                      If you think the only way the sponsors make money from your traffic is the trial + rebills then you're sadly mistaken.
                                                                                      If that was their only source of revenue then $35 would be a loss, but they have many ways of cashing in on your traffic.

                                                                                      Just because YOU can't afford to pay $35 without shaving doesn't mean it can't be done.
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                                                                                      • AmeliaG
                                                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                        • Jan 2003
                                                                                        • 10668

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by KRL
                                                                                        WTF? Why should anyone get paid if someone signs up and cancels? Shaving offsets the cancels that happen after you've been paid $35 - $70 for a $2.99 transaction.

                                                                                        Come on and face reality.

                                                                                        Its not like sponsors shave so they can buy Ferrari's, Lambo's and Lear's . . . . .

                                                                                        If the math just does not work, they should offer a different deal. They should negotiate harder on the front end but keep their word on the backend.

                                                                                        And, while we are listing folks who appear to shave, allow me to mention Bumble. Anybody else have experience with them?
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                                                                                        • playa
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                                                                                          • Feb 2001
                                                                                          • 6432

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          you can't really assume a sponsor shaves because of paying $35 on a 2.95 trial theory. there lots of stuff you can do as a sponsor to maximize your income

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                                                                                          • mrthumbs
                                                                                            salad tossing sig guy
                                                                                            • Apr 2002
                                                                                            • 11702

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by Lenny2


                                                                                            That's bullshit, no one has been accused of shaving more than ARS, and nobody has more active webmasters than ARS.

                                                                                            All threads like this are good for is newbies who have been getting one signup a day for a week, then go 2 days without a signup, to join together in their pissing and moaning.
                                                                                            no.. SE and type-in traffic.. the same that has been converting 1:300 with topbucks for years.

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                                                                                            • XXX_Jman
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                                                                                              • Oct 2002
                                                                                              • 213

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by Lenny2
                                                                                              If you think the only way the sponsors make money from your traffic is the trial + rebills then you're sadly mistaken.
                                                                                              If that was their only source of revenue then $35 would be a loss, but they have many ways of cashing in on your traffic.

                                                                                              Just because YOU can't afford to pay $35 without shaving doesn't mean it can't be done.
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