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  • Nysus
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    • Aug 2001
    • 7817
    #51
    Originally posted by Rich
    No suprise there, guess who sold Saddam his first nuclear reactor? France.

    Thank God Isreal had the good sense to bomb the fuck out of it.
    A French company perhaps.

    I am really starting to get irritated at everyone's ignorance and stereotypes. Smarten up.

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      • theking
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        • Sep 2002
        • 21053
        #52
        Originally posted by mule

        Read properly:
        (from the same article)

        ?CIA Director [William] Casey personally spearheaded the effort to ensure that Iraq had sufficient military weapons, ammunition and vehicles to avoid losing the Iran-Iraq war,? the affidavit continued. ?Pursuant to the secret NSDD, the United States actively supported the Iraqi war effort by supplying the Iraqis with billions of dollars of credits, by providing U.S. military intelligence and advice to the Iraqis, and by closely monitoring third country arms sales to Iraq to make sure that Iraq had the military weaponry required.?

        OK, it doesn't specifically say the US either gave or sold arms, but look closely at that last sentence. And then get an attack of amnesia, dipstick
        I read the entire article twice. Most of it is old news but is apparently coming from a new source...which makes it new news.

        I will repeat what I have stated, not only today, but many times, the US never supplied Iraq or any other country with WMD's. The US never sold arms to Iraq. That is what I have been specifically stating in multiple posts every time the idiots start spouting the lie.
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          • Mr.Fiction
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            • Feb 2002
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            #53
            WASHINGTON (AP) ? Iraq's bioweapons program that President Bush wants to eradicate got its start with help from Uncle Sam two decades ago, according to government records getting new scrutiny in light of the discussion of war against Iraq.

            http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2...q-ushelp_x.htm
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              • Ace-Ace
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                • May 2002
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                #54
                You guys really need to think before you speak. The US gave 'weapons' to Iraq to fight back in the 80's. They did NOT, however, give ANY form of "WMD" to them. They never have and never will.
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                  • Mr.Fiction
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                    • Feb 2002
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                    #55
                    During the Iran-Iraq war, Iraq received the lion's share of American support because at the time Iran was regarded as the greater threat to U.S. interests. According to a 1994 Senate report, private American suppliers, licensed by the U.S. Department of Commerce, exported a witch's brew of biological and chemical materials to Iraq from 1985 through 1989. Among the biological materials, which often produce slow, agonizing death, were:

                    * Bacillus Anthracis, cause of anthrax.

                    * Clostridium Botulinum, a source of botulinum toxin.

                    * Histoplasma Capsulatam, cause of a disease attacking lungs, brain, spinal cord, and heart.

                    * Brucella Melitensis, a bacteria that can damage major organs.

                    * Clostridium Perfringens, a highly toxic bacteria causing systemic illness.

                    * Clostridium tetani, a highly toxigenic substance.


                    Also on the list: Escherichia coli (E. coli), genetic materials, human and bacterial DNA, and dozens of other pathogenic biological agents. "These biological materials were not attenuated or weakened and were capable of reproduction," the Senate report stated. "It was later learned that these microorganisms exported by the United States were identical to those the United Nations inspectors found and removed from the Iraqi biological warfare program."

                    The report noted further that U.S. exports to Iraq included the precursors to chemical-warfare agents, plans for chemical and biological warfare production facilities, and chemical-warhead filling equipment.

                    The exports continued to at least November 28, 1989, despite evidence that Iraq was engaging in chemical and biological warfare against Iranians and Kurds since as early as 1984.

                    http://www.indybay.org/news/2002/03/119547.php
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                      • theking
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                        • Sep 2002
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                        #56
                        Originally posted by Ace-Ace
                        You guys really need to think before you speak. The US gave 'weapons' to Iraq to fight back in the 80's. They did NOT, however, give ANY form of "WMD" to them. They never have and never will.
                        We never even gave them weapons.
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                          • Thrawn$
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                            #57
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                              • mule
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                                • Jan 2002
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                                #58
                                Originally posted by theking


                                I read the entire article twice. Most of it is old news but is apparently coming from a new source...which makes it new news.

                                I will repeat what I have stated, not only today, but many times, the US never supplied Iraq or any other country with WMD's. The US never sold arms to Iraq. That is what I have been specifically stating in multiple posts every time the idiots start spouting the lie.
                                Fuck, I can't believe how dense you are. You read it twice, but you don't understand a word you read. I should have guessed that you're too literal-minded to understand it. Read again: ?Pursuant to the secret NSDD, the United States actively supported the Iraqi war effort by supplying the Iraqis with billions of dollars of credits, by providing U.S. military intelligence and advice to the Iraqis, and by closely monitoring third country arms sales to Iraq to make sure that Iraq had the military weaponry required.?

                                Let me spell it out for you: Iraqi official with no money goes to third-world arms dealer, accompanied by CIA goon with a briefcase filled with billions of dollars of credits. Arms-dealer says to Iraqi: "here are the weapons, where's the money?" Iraqi official shrugs and points at CIA goon, who tosses over the briefcase.

                                You must have made a fine soldier. The stupid ones do.
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                                  • theking
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                                    • Sep 2002
                                    • 21053
                                    #59
                                    Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
                                    During the Iran-Iraq war, Iraq received the lion's share of American support because at the time Iran was regarded as the greater threat to U.S. interests. According to a 1994 Senate report, private American suppliers, licensed by the U.S. Department of Commerce, exported a witch's brew of biological and chemical materials to Iraq from 1985 through 1989. Among the biological materials, which often produce slow, agonizing death, were:

                                    * Bacillus Anthracis, cause of anthrax.

                                    * Clostridium Botulinum, a source of botulinum toxin.

                                    * Histoplasma Capsulatam, cause of a disease attacking lungs, brain, spinal cord, and heart.

                                    * Brucella Melitensis, a bacteria that can damage major organs.

                                    * Clostridium Perfringens, a highly toxic bacteria causing systemic illness.

                                    * Clostridium tetani, a highly toxigenic substance.


                                    Also on the list: Escherichia coli (E. coli), genetic materials, human and bacterial DNA, and dozens of other pathogenic biological agents. "These biological materials were not attenuated or weakened and were capable of reproduction," the Senate report stated. "It was later learned that these microorganisms exported by the United States were identical to those the United Nations inspectors found and removed from the Iraqi biological warfare program."

                                    The report noted further that U.S. exports to Iraq included the precursors to chemical-warfare agents, plans for chemical and biological warfare production facilities, and chemical-warhead filling equipment.

                                    The exports continued to at least November 28, 1989, despite evidence that Iraq was engaging in chemical and biological warfare against Iranians and Kurds since as early as 1984.

                                    http://www.indybay.org/news/2002/03/119547.php
                                    No WMD's were given or sold. Materials with dual use capability were being sold and Iraq took advantage of this to produce materials for weapons. Some American companies had to pay consequences for selling certain materials, even after the Goverment proscribed the sale of certain materials.
                                    Last edited by theking; 04-05-2003, 03:01 PM.
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                                      • LiveCam
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                                        • Feb 2003
                                        • 370
                                        #60
                                        fuck the us ...


                                        they make the law when they want !!!

                                        and they have no respect for nothing ...

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                                          • theking
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                                            • Sep 2002
                                            • 21053
                                            #61
                                            Originally posted by mule

                                            Fuck, I can't believe how dense you are. You read it twice, but you don't understand a word you read. I should have guessed that you're too literal-minded to understand it. Read again: ?Pursuant to the secret NSDD, the United States actively supported the Iraqi war effort by supplying the Iraqis with billions of dollars of credits, by providing U.S. military intelligence and advice to the Iraqis, and by closely monitoring third country arms sales to Iraq to make sure that Iraq had the military weaponry required.?

                                            Let me spell it out for you: Iraqi official with no money goes to third-world arms dealer, accompanied by CIA goon with a briefcase filled with billions of dollars of credits. Arms-dealer says to Iraqi: "here are the weapons, where's the money?" Iraqi official shrugs and points at CIA goon, who tosses over the briefcase.

                                            You must have made a fine soldier. The stupid ones do.
                                            I fully understand the article and will repeat that it is old news, just a different source. I will repeat that the US did not sell arms to Iraq. They do not use US tanks, artillery, planes, or small arms. Wee little brains such as yours have difficulty understanding and are easily confused.

                                            It is old FUCKING NEWS...no gifts or sales of WMD's and no gifts or sale of US arms.
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                                              • mule
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                                                #62
                                                Originally posted by theking


                                                I fully understand the article and will repeat that it is old news, just a different source. I will repeat that the US did not sell arms to Iraq. They do not use US tanks, artillery, planes, or small arms. Wee little brains such as yours have difficulty understanding and are easily confused.

                                                It is old FUCKING NEWS...no gifts or sales of WMD's and no gifts or sale of US arms.
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                                                  • LiveCam
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                                                    • Feb 2003
                                                    • 370
                                                    #63
                                                    iam not for sadam win
                                                    Sadam is a fuckker ...

                                                    .... but iam very disagree with the procedure of the us ...

                                                    why they just dont kill him... instead of thousand and thousand of innocent people.. ?

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                                                      • xxxdesign-net
                                                        My hips don't lie
                                                        • Nov 2002
                                                        • 10129
                                                        #64
                                                        Originally posted by theking


                                                        we did assist in intelligence and money,

                                                        ok... trying to understand here... what is the difference between giving money to a regime of terror and giving them arms... when you absolutely know that they will take that money to buy arms from other....

                                                        And if the US didnt think they were a terror regime (which with a little bit of research, they would have learn that HUssain was a nut) then there's no difference between giving them money or arms... it would have been for a good cause right!?

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                                                          • genomega
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                                                            #65
                                                            why they just dont kill him... instead of thousand and thousand of innocent people.. ?
                                                            What are you talking about?
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                                                              • theking
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                                                                • Sep 2002
                                                                • 21053
                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by xxxdesign-net



                                                                ok... trying to understand here... what is the difference between giving money to a regime of terror and giving them arms... when you absolutely know that they will take that money to buy arms from other....

                                                                And if the US didnt think they were a terror regime (which with a little bit of research, they would have learn that HUssain was a nut) then there's no difference between giving them money or arms... it would have been for a good cause right!?
                                                                We actually assisted them in aquiring arms and supplied them with intelligence (we also supplied Iran with intelligence). Iran was an enemy, Iraq was engaging our enemy "the enemy of my enemy is my friend". We knew what Saddam was, we knew what the Ayatolla was. We did not want Iran to win, nor did we want Iraq to win. They were engaged in war and we kept the playing field balanced, so to speak.
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                                                                  • LiveCam
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                                                                    #67
                                                                    US central command meeting !

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                                                                      • xxxdesign-net
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                                                                        • Nov 2002
                                                                        • 10129
                                                                        #68
                                                                        Originally posted by theking


                                                                        We actually assisted them in aquiring arms and supplied them with intelligence (we also supplied Iran with intelligence). Iran was an enemy, Iraq was engaging our enemy "the enemy of my enemy is my friend". We knew what Saddam was, we knew what the Ayatolla was. We did not want Iran to win, nor did we want Iraq to win. They were engaged in war and we kept the playing field balanced, so to speak.

                                                                        So should have FRance and Russia said no when Iraq needed arms at that time...? Not sure why you are blaming them...

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                                                                          • mule
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                                                                            • Jan 2002
                                                                            • 6085
                                                                            #69
                                                                            Originally posted by theking
                                                                            We actually assisted them in aquiring arms and supplied them with intelligence (we also supplied Iran with intelligence)
                                                                            Ah, so THAT'S where your brain went
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                                                                              • xxxdesign-net
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                                                                                • 10129
                                                                                #70
                                                                                LiveCam: Not sure if you're sig is really appropriate....
                                                                                If you want to keep it... please... change the location... you are making some of us look bad here.... (pro war or not)

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                                                                                  • LiveCam
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                                                                                    #71
                                                                                    your right xxxdesign-net ..

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                                                                                      • theking
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                                                                                        • 21053
                                                                                        #72
                                                                                        Originally posted by mule

                                                                                        Ah, so THAT'S where your brain went
                                                                                        Brilliant, just brilliant. I am giving you a standing ovation, wee one.
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                                                                                          • theking
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                                                                                            • Sep 2002
                                                                                            • 21053
                                                                                            #73
                                                                                            Originally posted by xxxdesign-net



                                                                                            So should have FRance and Russia said no when Iraq needed arms at that time...? Not sure why you are blaming them...
                                                                                            Sorry, you are addressing the wrong person.
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                                                                                              • mule
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                                                                                                #74
                                                                                                Originally posted by theking


                                                                                                Brilliant, just brilliant. I am giving you a standing ovation, wee one.
                                                                                                Had to come down to your level, just to see if you'd rise to the occasion. Damn, all these disappontments
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                                                                                                  • Lizzie
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                                                                                                    • Apr 2002
                                                                                                    • 76
                                                                                                    #75
                                                                                                    Originally posted by Ace-Ace
                                                                                                    You guys really need to think before you speak. The US gave 'weapons' to Iraq to fight back in the 80's. They did NOT, however, give ANY form of "WMD" to them. They never have and never will.

                                                                                                    Read this article.
                                                                                                    http://www.prisonplanet.com/news_ale...102_iraq1.html
                                                                                                    Original link
                                                                                                    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...528574,00.html


                                                                                                    Pay close attention to this part
                                                                                                    "To prevent Iraqi defeat in the Iran-Iraq war, which was started by Iraq and lasted from 1980 to 1988, the Reagan Administration began supplying Saddam with battlefield intelligence on Iranian troop movements.

                                                                                                    By the end of the decade, Washington had authorised the sale to Iraq of numerous items that had both military and civilian applications. These included poisonous chemicals and biological viruses, among them anthrax and bubonic plague. "
                                                                                                    Liz

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                                                                                                      • theking
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                                                                                                        • Sep 2002
                                                                                                        • 21053
                                                                                                        #76
                                                                                                        Originally posted by mule

                                                                                                        Had to come down to your level, just to see if you'd rise to the occasion. Damn, all these disappontments
                                                                                                        A troll, just a troll, but Joe Sixpack makes you look like a rank amateur.
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                                                                                                          • MichaelAncher
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                                                                                                            #77
                                                                                                            Originally posted by theking


                                                                                                            The fact that the US assisted Iraq so that Iran would not defeat Iraq is old news. The article backs up everthing that I have said. We did not sell or give Iraq WMD's, we did not sell or give Iraq arms, we did assist in intelligence and money, because we did not want Iraq to lose and also did not want Iraq to win.

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                                                                                                              • mule
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                                                                                                                #78
                                                                                                                Originally posted by theking


                                                                                                                A troll, just a troll, but Joe Sixpack makes you look like a rank amateur.
                                                                                                                I'm not in it for the competition, I just like playing with you, big boy
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                                                                                                                  • theking
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                                                                                                                    • Sep 2002
                                                                                                                    • 21053
                                                                                                                    #79
                                                                                                                    Originally posted by Lizzie



                                                                                                                    Read this article.
                                                                                                                    http://www.prisonplanet.com/news_ale...102_iraq1.html
                                                                                                                    Original link
                                                                                                                    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...528574,00.html


                                                                                                                    Pay close attention to this part
                                                                                                                    "To prevent Iraqi defeat in the Iran-Iraq war, which was started by Iraq and lasted from 1980 to 1988, the Reagan Administration began supplying Saddam with battlefield intelligence on Iranian troop movements.

                                                                                                                    By the end of the decade, Washington had authorised the sale to Iraq of numerous items that had both military and civilian applications. These included poisonous chemicals and biological viruses, among them anthrax and bubonic plague. "
                                                                                                                    It is known and has been known, that American companies, as well as companies from other countries sold materials that had dual use capability. Your kitchen cupboards are filled with dual use materials, but I assume that you use them for the intended use that they were sold to you. Iraq took it upon themselves to produce materials for use in weapons.
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                                                                                                                      • gothweb
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                                                                                                                        #80
                                                                                                                        The US has given many nations weapons of mass destruction. Look at the list of countries with The Bomb. Do you think they all developed it without a little head start? Like Britain, France, and Israel? My ass. I love my country, but you won't get anywhere denying the truth of past mistakes.

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                                                                                                                          • theking
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                                                                                                                            • Sep 2002
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                                                                                                                            #81
                                                                                                                            Originally posted by MichaelAncher



                                                                                                                            It's okay to be proud of ones contry. To be loyal is a virtue, but don't be blind.

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                                                                                                                            I am not blind, thank you very much.
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                                                                                                                              • Lizzie
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                                                                                                                                • Apr 2002
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                                                                                                                                #82
                                                                                                                                Originally posted by theking


                                                                                                                                We never even gave them weapons.
                                                                                                                                A little reading is in order
                                                                                                                                http://www.sundayherald.com/27572

                                                                                                                                http://www.prisonplanet.com/news_ale..._enemies1.html
                                                                                                                                Liz

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                                                                                                                                  • mule
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                                                                                                                                    #83
                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by theking


                                                                                                                                    It is known and has been known, that American companies, as well as companies from other countries sold materials that had dual use capability. Your kitchen cupboards are filled with dual use materials, but I assume that you use them for the intended use that they were sold to you. Iraq took it upon themselves to produce materials for use in weapons.
                                                                                                                                    I'm trying to think of even ONE use that bubonic plague could have for a country like Iraq at that stage in time, other than killing Iranians with it. Dual use my ass, it was meant to make people die horribly, and the companies suplying it either knew it damned well, or were just as stupid as you.
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                                                                                                                                      • theking
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                                                                                                                                        • Sep 2002
                                                                                                                                        • 21053
                                                                                                                                        #84
                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by gothweb
                                                                                                                                        The US has given many nations weapons of mass destruction. Look at the list of countries with The Bomb. Do you think they all developed it without a little head start? Like Britain, France, and Israel? My ass. I love my country, but you won't get anywhere denying the truth of past mistakes.
                                                                                                                                        Well we all know that Europeans are not to bright so I agree...the Brits, French and Israel were to dumb to produce the bomb without an assis from the US, but Russia, China, India, Pakistan, and North Korea were not.
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                                                                                                                                          • Simon-interaid
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                                                                                                                                            #85
                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by theking


                                                                                                                                            I am not the one making an accusation, you and other fools like you are making the accusation. Prove you accusation.

                                                                                                                                            I repeat you are an idiot.

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                                                                                                                                              • theking
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                                                                                                                                                • Sep 2002
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                                                                                                                                                #86
                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by Lizzie


                                                                                                                                                A little reading is in order
                                                                                                                                                http://www.sundayherald.com/27572

                                                                                                                                                http://www.prisonplanet.com/news_ale..._enemies1.html
                                                                                                                                                No where in either article does it say we sold weapons of any kind to Iraq.
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                                                                                                                                                  • theking
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                                                                                                                                                    #87
                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by mule

                                                                                                                                                    I'm trying to think of even ONE use that bubonic plague could have for a country like Iraq at that stage in time, other than killing Iranians with it. Dual use my ass, it was meant to make people die horribly, and the companies suplying it either knew it damned well, or were just as stupid as you.
                                                                                                                                                    I repeat...American companies had to pay consequences for certain materials that were sold to Iraq.
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                                                                                                                                                      • mule
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                                                                                                                                                        #88
                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by theking


                                                                                                                                                        I repeat
                                                                                                                                                        Yes, that's all you do, I'm giving up on you. You're a bot, programmed to spew out the same reiterations every time your button is pushed.
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                                                                                                                                                          • MichaelAncher
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                                                                                                                                                            #89
                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by theking


                                                                                                                                                            Well we all know that Europeans are not to bright so I agree...the Brits, French and Israel were to dumb to produce the bomb without an assis from the US, but Russia, China, India, Pakistan, and North Korea were not.

                                                                                                                                                            " Don't throw stones, when you live in a glasshouse" ...You don't have to be personal, I we are looking for somebody not to bright, then we know where to look...dumbhead ...If you read some history about WW2 then you would know that the "bomb" was invented by a german professor and not by the US.
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                                                                                                                                                                #90
                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by theking


                                                                                                                                                                I repeat...American companies had to pay consequences for certain materials that were sold to Iraq.
                                                                                                                                                                Can you post reference to this?

                                                                                                                                                                And that still doesn't change the fact that the article above states that WASHINGTON okay'd sales of these biological weapons, whether the companies were 'scolded' afterwards or not.

                                                                                                                                                                I'm not sure what you feel is a 'weapon'...but biological agents such as those listed above are most definitely weapons of mass destruction.
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                                                                                                                                                                    #91
                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by mule

                                                                                                                                                                    Yes, that's all you do, I'm giving up on you. You're a bot, programmed to spew out the same reiterations every time your button is pushed.
                                                                                                                                                                    There is but one way to iterate the truth. The US never sold WMD's to Iraq period. A WMD is an artillary round filled with chemical/biological material. We never even sold them artillary rounds. A WMD is a missile with a warhead filled with chemical/biological materials. We never even sold them a missile. A WMD is a bomb filled with chemical/biological materials. We never even sold them bombs. They do not have US tanks, US artillery, US planes, or small arms. The lies have been told so many times by those with an agenda that those with an agenda and wee little minds accept it as truth.
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                                                                                                                                                                      • gothweb
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                                                                                                                                                                        #92
                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by theking


                                                                                                                                                                        Well we all know that Europeans are not to bright so I agree...the Brits, French and Israel were to dumb to produce the bomb without an assis from the US, but Russia, China, India, Pakistan, and North Korea were not.
                                                                                                                                                                        Most countries that have the bomb got it from either the US or Russia. You said that the US never gave *anyone* weapons of mass destruction. Your pig-headed "patriotism" leads you to overgeneralize.

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                                                                                                                                                                            #93
                                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by theking


                                                                                                                                                                            There is but one way to iterate the truth. The US never sold WMD's to Iraq period. A WMD is an artillary round filled with chemical/biological material. We never even sold them artillary rounds. A WMD is a missile with a warhead filled with chemical/biological materials. We never even sold them a missile. A WMD is a bomb filled with chemical/biological materials. We never even sold them bombs. They do not have US tanks, US artillery, US planes, or small arms. The lies have been told so many times by those with an agenda that those with an agenda and wee little minds accept it as truth.
                                                                                                                                                                            Stop pissing about with semantics. We gave them the capability to have weapons of mass desturction that they wouldn't have had otherwise. That's giving them the weapons. And, even if it isn't, then your argument is still one of language. All the points about us being wrong in what we did apply even if you don't like the word "give".

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                                                                                                                                                                                #94
                                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by theking


                                                                                                                                                                                There is but one way to iterate the truth. The US never sold WMD's to Iraq period. A WMD is an artillary round filled with chemical/biological material. We never even sold them artillary rounds. A WMD is a missile with a warhead filled with chemical/biological materials. We never even sold them a missile. A WMD is a bomb filled with chemical/biological materials. We never even sold them bombs. They do not have US tanks, US artillery, US planes, or small arms. The lies have been told so many times by those with an agenda that those with an agenda and wee little minds accept it as truth.
                                                                                                                                                                                Okay, so you would agree then, that the US has supplied Iraq with biological agents with the intention of giving Iraq material to create their own WMD's?
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                                                                                                                                                                                    • Sep 2002
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                                                                                                                                                                                    #95
                                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by gigi


                                                                                                                                                                                    Can you post reference to this?

                                                                                                                                                                                    And that still doesn't change the fact that the article above states that WASHINGTON okay'd sales of these biological weapons, whether the companies were 'scolded' afterwards or not.

                                                                                                                                                                                    I'm not sure what you feel is a 'weapon'...but biological agents such as those listed above are most definitely weapons of mass destruction.
                                                                                                                                                                                    Initially the Commerce Department (which is not "Washington" as one department does not usually know what another department is doing) did not have a ban on certains materials that were being sold to Iraq and/or other countries. Just as a certain medical drug or product is sold to US consumers today that may be banned next week. Once it was learned what Iraq was doing with some of the materials that it was buying the Commerce Department placed a ban on certain materials being sold. Even after the materials were proscribed some companies continued to sell proscribed items and there were consequences. And no they are not weapons but can be converted and used in weapons.
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                                                                                                                                                                                        #96
                                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by gothweb


                                                                                                                                                                                        Most countries that have the bomb got it from either the US or Russia. You said that the US never gave *anyone* weapons of mass destruction. Your pig-headed "patriotism" leads you to overgeneralize.
                                                                                                                                                                                        The US never intentionally gave anyone the plans or technology to create the bomb and I am satisfied that Russia did not either.
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                                                                                                                                                                                            #97
                                                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by theking


                                                                                                                                                                                            Initially the Commerce Department (which is not "Washington" as one department does not usually know what another department is doing) did not have a ban on certains materials that were being sold to Iraq and/or other countries. Just as a certain medical drug or product is sold to US consumers today that may be banned next week. Once it was learned what Iraq was doing with some of the materials that it was buying the Commerce Department placed a ban on certain materials being sold. Even after the materials were proscribed some companies continued to sell proscribed items and there were consequences. And no they are not weapons but can be converted and used in weapons.
                                                                                                                                                                                            Again, can you support this with documentation please? I'd be interested to see it.
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                                                                                                                                                                                                #98
                                                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by theking


                                                                                                                                                                                                There is but one way to iterate the truth. The US never sold WMD's to Iraq period. A WMD is an artillary round filled with chemical/biological material. We never even sold them artillary rounds. A WMD is a missile with a warhead filled with chemical/biological materials. We never even sold them a missile. A WMD is a bomb filled with chemical/biological materials. We never even sold them bombs. They do not have US tanks, US artillery, US planes, or small arms. The lies have been told so many times by those with an agenda that those with an agenda and wee little minds accept it as truth.
                                                                                                                                                                                                http://www.unobserver.com/index.php?...p&id=815&blz=1

                                                                                                                                                                                                "December 1982. Hughes Aircraft ships 60 Defender helicopters to Iraq. "

                                                                                                                                                                                                "November 1983. Banca Nazionale del Lavoro of Italy and its Branch in Atlanta begin to funnel $5 billion in unreported loans to Iraq. Iraq, with the blessing and official approval of the U.S. government, purchased computer controlled machine tools, computers, scientific instruments, special alloy steel and aluminum, chemicals, and other
                                                                                                                                                                                                industrial goods for Iraq's missile, chemical, biological and nuclear weapons programs. "

                                                                                                                                                                                                I like this part
                                                                                                                                                                                                "with the blessing and official approval of the U.S. government, "

                                                                                                                                                                                                "
                                                                                                                                                                                                October 1983. The Reagan Administration begins secretly allowing Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, and Egypt to transfer United States weapons, including Howitzers, Huey helicopters, and bombs to Iraq. These shipments violated the Arms Export Control Act. "

                                                                                                                                                                                                "December 20 1983. Donald Rumsfeld, then a civilian and now Defense Secretary, meets with Saddam Hussein to assure him of US friendship and materials support"

                                                                                                                                                                                                "July 1984. CIA begins giving Iraq intelligence necessary to calibrate its mustard gas attacks on Iranian troops"

                                                                                                                                                                                                "April 1988. US Department of Commerce approves shipment of chemicals used in manufacture of mustard gas"


                                                                                                                                                                                                And on and on
                                                                                                                                                                                                Read the article.
                                                                                                                                                                                                Liz

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    #99
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by theking


                                                                                                                                                                                                    The US never intentionally gave anyone the plans or technology to create the bomb and I am satisfied that Russia did not either.
                                                                                                                                                                                                    This is just not true. The US has armed the Israeli army quite nicely including nukes....
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                                                                                                                                                                                                        #100
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by theking


                                                                                                                                                                                                        The US never intentionally gave anyone the plans or technology to create the bomb and I am satisfied that Russia did not either.
                                                                                                                                                                                                        It worries me to think that at one point in time, my security migth have been partially in the hands of a man anywhere near as naive as you just demonstrated yourself to be.

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