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  • freeme
    Confirmed User
    • Feb 2003
    • 940

    #1

    legendary lars?? BAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

    is that stupid banner the reason you droped payouts to your chat hosts to 35%??

    How many studio owners are going to stand for that

    Your traffic must be hurting to drop your payouts to your talent especially the suckers that paid you 3750-5000 for lisences
    ohh yeah I remember the days when you were pushing 3750 lisc fees then ripped everyone off and dropped payment from 70% to them to 50% now to 35%


    how many american chicks do you think youll keep

    I know of 2 S.A. guys getting ready to leave you shortly



  • Mutt
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Sep 2002
    • 34431

    #2
    girls only get 35%? how much is a private show? Doesn't seem like you make much money at 35% - is that 35% of the gross or do they also take out credit card processing fees?
    I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

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    • Lensman
      GFY Chaperone
      • Jan 2001
      • 9846

      #3
      Isn't that what TricCams pays too?

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      • freeme
        Confirmed User
        • Feb 2003
        • 940

        #4
        yeah but tricams has MUCH better traffic

        too much freee no cc traffic on streamrays sites

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        • Lensman
          GFY Chaperone
          • Jan 2001
          • 9846

          #5
          TriCams girls get less traffic, but all use credit cards. CamGirlsLive gets more traffic to the girls, but more freeloaders.

          Don't the CamGirlsLive girls charge A LOT more than TriCams so they make more money? It seems like most of the girls on TriCams charge less than $2 a minute. And x 35%, the girl gets 70 cents.

          So the CamGirlsLive have to work harder, but make more. Am I right?

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          • Brujah
            Beer Money Baron
            • Jan 2001
            • 22157

            #6
            Is this Forests way of recruiting webmasters to promote his cams ?

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            • freeme
              Confirmed User
              • Feb 2003
              • 940

              #7
              cgl have to talk to 3-4x the number or customers to get anywhere near the amount of sales as tricams

              ive been on cgl
              ifriends
              vs
              cgl was the hardest system for the girls to make money on just do to the fact of all the 4free traffic that gets pumped thru there

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              • freeme
                Confirmed User
                • Feb 2003
                • 940

                #8
                Originally posted by Brujah
                Is this Forests way of recruiting webmasters to promote his cams ?
                HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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                • Brujah
                  Beer Money Baron
                  • Jan 2001
                  • 22157

                  #9
                  girls make more with CGL or IF or TC ?

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                  • freeme
                    Confirmed User
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 940

                    #10
                    i had girls on if and cgl at the same time

                    if at the time did 40-50% more than cgl

                    i dont do cams anymore but vs was the best by far


                    and at 35% the girls now have to work that much harder just to make the same money at 15%

                    those free fuckers are a pain in tha ass

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                    • SleazyDream
                      I'm here for SPORT
                      • Jul 2001
                      • 41470

                      #11
                      last I heard lars wasn't hurting - why pay more than he has to for the girls?

                      all payments are recurring - lets do some math....

                      35% to the girls
                      25% webmaster payout
                      15% bandwidth cost - live streaming is HUGE usage for free sites
                      10% credit card processing and staff (he does his own, not thrid party)
                      15% profit.
                      -----
                      100%

                      this is just a guess but it's not too far off.

                      I doubt he could do credit card processing for under 10% after you consider the salaries of the people he has doing that for him.

                      Lars pays less upfront but a LOT more than MOST over time - and doesn't screw around the customer or anyone who promotes him.

                      i can list 2 dozen HIGH PROFILE people in this industry that will have NOTHING BUT GOOD THINGS to say about Lars... be interesting if you, Brujah, can say the same...............I doubt it.
                      This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!

                      Now read without the word dog.

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                      • freeme
                        Confirmed User
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 940

                        #12
                        35% to the girls is bullshit with all that free traffic

                        35% on tricams talking to people with cc is a different story

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                        • Mutt
                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                          • Sep 2002
                          • 34431

                          #13
                          Every time I've visited a cam site the girls seem to spend 50 minutes per hour without a paying customer.

                          Pornication in its heyday, now those girls were doing private shows all the time. I've been on CGL a few times, didn't see a girl get a private show. When did Legendary Lars buy Steamray? I remember that software before it was in adult, it was called the HelloNetwork. I called and asked them about adult usage - oh my god you should have heard what kind of money they were asking for - crazy money.
                          I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

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                          • SleazyDream
                            I'm here for SPORT
                            • Jul 2001
                            • 41470

                            #14
                            Originally posted by freeme
                            35% to the girls is bullshit with all that free traffic

                            35% on tricams talking to people with cc is a different story

                            lars's program is in a TON of paysites members areas......... more than most other programs
                            This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!

                            Now read without the word dog.

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                            • Xenophage
                              Registered User
                              • Oct 2001
                              • 12122

                              #15
                              We lowerd the payouts to the girls in order to up the pay to webmasters ! To remain competative in the industry. I wont slam anyone as thats not my style. But we have models that make more on our system than any other and at the same time have models who make more on other systems. Most models now work cameras on all systems at the same time and so its kinda a moot point ! Business models change over time with the change in traffic models and competiton change is good

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                              • freeme
                                Confirmed User
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 940

                                #16
                                mutt they screwed so many studio owners

                                i know 5 personally who paid 5k per lisc to stream. now that is per stream. if you want 5 studios its 5k per

                                the payout was 70% because you paid the 5k

                                then the did away with the lisc. and changed the payout to 50%

                                so anyone who had a 70% lisc was fucked

                                now they get 35%

                                what next 25%

                                i have 3 lisc owners on icq right now talking about this and 1 is going to vs in 2 weeks so lars is going to loose a good size studio owner because he keeps ripping them off
                                i know 1 guy in fl who is pulling his girls

                                tae money out of their pockets to spend on advertising.
                                doenst sound like good business to me

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                                • LadyMischief
                                  Orgasms N Such!
                                  • Sep 2002
                                  • 18135

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Lensman
                                  TriCams girls get less traffic, but all use credit cards. CamGirlsLive gets more traffic to the girls, but more freeloaders.

                                  Don't the CamGirlsLive girls charge A LOT more than TriCams so they make more money? It seems like most of the girls on TriCams charge less than $2 a minute. And x 35%, the girl gets 70 cents.

                                  So the CamGirlsLive have to work harder, but make more. Am I right?
                                  I believe camgirlslive has sound as well.. does Tricams?

                                  I'm not sure.. looking for something worth promoting

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                                  • LadyMischief
                                    Orgasms N Such!
                                    • Sep 2002
                                    • 18135

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by SleazyDream
                                    last I heard lars wasn't hurting - why pay more than he has to for the girls?

                                    all payments are recurring - lets do some math....

                                    35% to the girls
                                    25% webmaster payout
                                    15% bandwidth cost - live streaming is HUGE usage for free sites
                                    10% credit card processing and staff (he does his own, not thrid party)
                                    15% profit.
                                    -----
                                    100%

                                    this is just a guess but it's not too far off.

                                    I doubt he could do credit card processing for under 10% after you consider the salaries of the people he has doing that for him.

                                    Lars pays less upfront but a LOT more than MOST over time - and doesn't screw around the customer or anyone who promotes him.

                                    i can list 2 dozen HIGH PROFILE people in this industry that will have NOTHING BUT GOOD THINGS to say about Lars... be interesting if you, Brujah, can say the same...............I doubt it.
                                    Yeah we used to do a fair amount of stuff through Lars too and he was always honest with us. He's definitely been a force in the industry a long time, and he's got a hella lot of stuff. If his wedding photos are any indication, he's DEFINITELY not hurting for cash lol.

                                    ICQ 3522039
                                    Content Manager - orgasm.com
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                                    • Xenophage
                                      Registered User
                                      • Oct 2001
                                      • 12122

                                      #19
                                      LOL

                                      as I said in my letter I expect some people to leave. Sales will remain the same and so those that are still there will make the same or more than they did before. Yes before I bought the company they sold licences for 1 Year at a time. I honored all those licences till the end of 2 years and then moved to 50%. 70% was not a model you could survive with. And now 50% is not a model you can survive with.

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                                      • LadyMischief
                                        Orgasms N Such!
                                        • Sep 2002
                                        • 18135

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by LegendaryLars
                                        LOL

                                        as I said in my letter I expect some people to leave. Sales will remain the same and so those that are still there will make the same or more than they did before. Yes before I bought the company they sold licences for 1 Year at a time. I honored all those licences till the end of 2 years and then moved to 50%. 70% was not a model you could survive with. And now 50% is not a model you can survive with.
                                        Shit Lars hey, didn't know you posted here Nice to see ya man

                                        ICQ 3522039
                                        Content Manager - orgasm.com
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                                        • freeme
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Feb 2003
                                          • 940

                                          #21
                                          lars

                                          I can think of 3 solid companies paying out 50%


                                          and their chatting traffic is all 100% cc verified

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                                          • kaylacam
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Sep 2002
                                            • 2745

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Mutt
                                            Every time I've visited a cam site the girls seem to spend 50 minutes per hour without a paying customer.

                                            Pornication in its heyday, now those girls were doing private shows all the time. I've been on CGL a few times, didn't see a girl get a private show. When did Legendary Lars buy Steamray? I remember that software before it was in adult, it was called the HelloNetwork. I called and asked them about adult usage - oh my god you should have heard what kind of money they were asking for - crazy money.
                                            Do you know who the TRAINED of the girls was when HelloNetwork launched (later to become HelloAdult then CGL)...wanna know where a LOT of their software customized stuff came from? SAME girl...she was dating then later engaged to the guy who wrote the software....yup! You guessed it!


                                            ME!
                                            SPANK!
                                            Kayla Quinn
                                            http://www.TushyCash.com

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                                            • Darin
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Aug 2002
                                              • 345

                                              #23
                                              Lars system rocks
                                              SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

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                                              • Xenophage
                                                Registered User
                                                • Oct 2001
                                                • 12122

                                                #24
                                                50% ? read between the lines look at the fine print run some girls on it yourself check the miniutes counted look at the holdbacks.

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                                                • LadyMischief
                                                  Orgasms N Such!
                                                  • Sep 2002
                                                  • 18135

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by kaylacam


                                                  Do you know who the TRAINED of the girls was when HelloNetwork launched (later to become HelloAdult then CGL)...wanna know where a LOT of their software customized stuff came from? SAME girl...she was dating then later engaged to the guy who wrote the software....yup! You guessed it!


                                                  ME!
                                                  Sweet! Hey there sexy, btw :P

                                                  ICQ 3522039
                                                  Content Manager - orgasm.com
                                                  [email protected]

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                                                  • LadyMischief
                                                    Orgasms N Such!
                                                    • Sep 2002
                                                    • 18135

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by LegendaryLars
                                                    50% ? read between the lines look at the fine print run some girls on it yourself check the miniutes counted look at the holdbacks.
                                                    Yeah, a lot of their cash gets held back in "fees" etc.

                                                    ICQ 3522039
                                                    Content Manager - orgasm.com
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                                                    • Xenophage
                                                      Registered User
                                                      • Oct 2001
                                                      • 12122

                                                      #27
                                                      Heya ladyM

                                                      yeah I dont post a lot but I read everyday.
                                                      And I gots eyes and ears all over took about 30 seconds for the icq to ring off the hook on this thread

                                                      Thanks for the kind words

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                                                      • LadyMischief
                                                        Orgasms N Such!
                                                        • Sep 2002
                                                        • 18135

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by LegendaryLars
                                                        Heya ladyM

                                                        yeah I dont post a lot but I read everyday.
                                                        And I gots eyes and ears all over took about 30 seconds for the icq to ring off the hook on this thread

                                                        Thanks for the kind words
                                                        hehe I bet Then again, word tends to travel quickly in this biz, doesn't it?

                                                        ICQ 3522039
                                                        Content Manager - orgasm.com
                                                        [email protected]

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                                                        • Xenophage
                                                          Registered User
                                                          • Oct 2001
                                                          • 12122

                                                          #29
                                                          Like fire

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                                                          • Kimmykim
                                                            bitchslapping zebras!!!!!
                                                            • Jun 2001
                                                            • 16015

                                                            #30
                                                            Is it just me or is Forest always whining and trying to stir shit up?

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                                                            • TheFLY
                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                              • Jan 2001
                                                              • 11856

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by LegendaryLars
                                                              We lowerd the payouts to the girls in order to up the pay to webmasters ! To remain competative in the industry. I wont slam anyone as thats not my style. But we have models that make more on our system than any other and at the same time have models who make more on other systems. Most models now work cameras on all systems at the same time and so its kinda a moot point ! Business models change over time with the change in traffic models and competiton change is good
                                                              I'm glad you raised payouts to webmasters -- I was sending lots of traffic and I just couldn't make money with it... The "rentention" is great but the payout was just not competitive... When did these rates change? I may try it again and see if I can make more sales...

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                                                              • freeme
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Feb 2003
                                                                • 940

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Kimmykim
                                                                Is it just me or is Forest always whining and trying to stir shit up?
                                                                as usual its just you

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                                                                • SleazyDream
                                                                  I'm here for SPORT
                                                                  • Jul 2001
                                                                  • 41470

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by LegendaryLars
                                                                  Heya ladyM

                                                                  yeah I dont post a lot but I read everyday.
                                                                  And I gots eyes and ears all over took about 30 seconds for the icq to ring off the hook on this thread

                                                                  Thanks for the kind words
                                                                  30 seconds ---- I'm surprized it took that long..........
                                                                  This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!

                                                                  Now read without the word dog.

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                                                                  • DrGuile
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Jan 2002
                                                                    • 2025

                                                                    #34
                                                                    I like Lars

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                                                                    • Plat
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Jan 2002
                                                                      • 2680

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by LegendaryLars
                                                                      We lowerd the payouts to the girls in order to up the pay to webmasters ! To remain competative in the industry. I wont slam anyone as thats not my style. But we have models that make more on our system than any other and at the same time have models who make more on other systems. Most models now work cameras on all systems at the same time and so its kinda a moot point ! Business models change over time with the change in traffic models and competiton change is good
                                                                      I like to hear that
                                                                      Im fuckin retired

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                                                                      • Kimmykim
                                                                        bitchslapping zebras!!!!!
                                                                        • Jun 2001
                                                                        • 16015

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by freeme


                                                                        as usual its just you
                                                                        as usual it's just me noticing it.

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                                                                        • Xenophage
                                                                          Registered User
                                                                          • Oct 2001
                                                                          • 12122

                                                                          #37
                                                                          thanks for all the suport everyone


                                                                          Hoppin on plane to phoenix

                                                                          cant wait to hang out with old friends and meet new ones !

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                                                                          • Brujah
                                                                            Beer Money Baron
                                                                            • Jan 2001
                                                                            • 22157

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by Kimmykim


                                                                            as usual it's just me noticing it.
                                                                            I was just more subtle about it.

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                                                                            • holly goodhead
                                                                              Registered User
                                                                              • Jan 2003
                                                                              • 27

                                                                              #39
                                                                              We lowerd the payouts to the girls in order to up the pay to webmasters ! To remain competative in the industry.
                                                                              sux for us 1 on 1 cam girls......Unless you are both.. then the pay out like at Tricams is 60% and gtd which is Awesome!!

                                                                              to 60% payout to those of us to DRIVE the traffic and work it too!! and so far Tricams is the best for those recurring payouts!!

                                                                              dhg
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                                                                              • steffie
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • May 2002
                                                                                • 2422

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by Mutt
                                                                                Every time I've visited a cam site the girls seem to spend 50 minutes per hour without a paying customer.

                                                                                Pornication in its heyday, now those girls were doing private shows all the time. I've been on CGL a few times, didn't see a girl get a private show. When did Legendary Lars buy Steamray? I remember that software before it was in adult, it was called the HelloNetwork. I called and asked them about adult usage - oh my god you should have heard what kind of money they were asking for - crazy money.
                                                                                I paid 2000 dollars for the stream in ( I think it was 1999 January) they just introduced it than. They had so many problems than urgh.

                                                                                After 6 month we had enough, the streams didn't work right, the customers had problems, we had lots of problems. So after the year was up they asked us for a renewel fee of $ 150.00. Than it was sold. So we paid and more problems, stream upgrades, etc etc

                                                                                However I must say that we did make great money when we were online in 1999. After 2000 we didn't pay the renewel fee anymore.

                                                                                Geez I wonder if my stream is still good.

                                                                                I always liked Hellonetwork, Streamray, Lars, etc.. I was with Daypass before HelloNetwork.

                                                                                Ah the beginning steps, They have come a long long way
                                                                                Partying since '96 and not going anywhere Anna's Dorm

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                                                                                • Plat
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Jan 2002
                                                                                  • 2680

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by holly goodhead


                                                                                  sux for us 1 on 1 cam girls......Unless you are both.. then the pay out like at Tricams is 60% and gtd which is Awesome!!

                                                                                  to 60% payout to those of us to DRIVE the traffic and work it too!! and so far Tricams is the best for those recurring payouts!!

                                                                                  dhg
                                                                                  webmasters come first
                                                                                  Im fuckin retired

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                                                                                  • Carrie
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Apr 2002
                                                                                    • 3162

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by holly goodhead
                                                                                    sux for us 1 on 1 cam girls......Unless you are both.. then the pay out like at Tricams is 60% and gtd which is Awesome!!

                                                                                    to 60% payout to those of us to DRIVE the traffic and work it too!! and so far Tricams is the best for those recurring payouts!!

                                                                                    dhg
                                                                                    So you advertise your own cam, send the traffic to the site through your own webmaster link to your *personal* splash page (I'm assuming through moneytree?), and then work the cam as well, yes?

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                                                                                    • Kimmykim
                                                                                      bitchslapping zebras!!!!!
                                                                                      • Jun 2001
                                                                                      • 16015

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by holly goodhead
                                                                                      sux for us 1 on 1 cam girls......Unless you are both.. then the pay out like at Tricams is 60% and gtd which is Awesome!!

                                                                                      How many names do you have Forest?

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                                                                                      • Serge_Oprano
                                                                                        So Fucking Banned
                                                                                        • Feb 2002
                                                                                        • 9820

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by Kimmykim



                                                                                        How many names do you have Forest?
                                                                                        Kimmy,
                                                                                        YOU decide:











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                                                                                        • freeme
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Feb 2003
                                                                                          • 940

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by Kimmykim



                                                                                          How many names do you have Forest?
                                                                                          only 1 that i post here as and thats this one

                                                                                          and she is right

                                                                                          oh and KK

                                                                                          http://www.iwc2003.com loads for everone else in the world but you it seems

                                                                                          need lessons on Internet Explorer?

                                                                                          you go IE and put your cursor in the address bar its the little thingie at the top (no not my dick) then you put,

                                                                                          H T T P : // www......


                                                                                          KK,

                                                                                          MikeW and I were toasting you in those pics

                                                                                          Cheers

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                                                                                          • holly goodhead
                                                                                            Registered User
                                                                                            • Jan 2003
                                                                                            • 27

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            So you advertise your own cam, send the traffic to the site through your own webmaster link to your *personal* splash page (I'm assuming through moneytree?), and then work the cam as well, yes?
                                                                                            I have actually 28 cam "ho"s on my website all linking eventually to Tricams (a couple to IF also) but the major portion of the traffic is sent to TC as they have the best payouts for the us.

                                                                                            so as long as my traffic goes to video i get paid too as well as shaking my phat ass on cam.



                                                                                            webmasters come first
                                                                                            and for the record.. i don't think webmasters CUM at all!!! LMAO!!!



                                                                                            Just KIDDING!!!!
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                                                                                            • Rose Crans
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Oct 2002
                                                                                              • 334

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Damn. I thought this thread was about that other message board that Dildozer invaded. That was funny.
                                                                                              Come away, come away...

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