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The fight against surveillance: is porn the target

04-01-2003, 10:26 AM

In case you think this guy is a paranoid for real, here is a small quote:

Marjorie Heins, an ACLU lawyer at the time, said Mr. Steinhardt got the organization to start thinking about technology "when a lot of us were barely beginning to get e-mail accounts."

By 1996, the ACLU played a central role in challenging the Communications Decency Act, Congress's first foray in regulating online porn. The Supreme Court struck down the law in 1997 on First Amendment grounds.

Today'sd threat:

The American Civil Liberties Union's cyberchief holds up his Handspring Treo, a combination organizer, phone and e-mail gadget, as he describes the many ways his government might spy on him.

Snoops could try to tap into the calendar to see his meeting schedule. They could ask his service provider for phone and e-mail records. If Mr. Steinhardt were to upgrade to a device with global-positioning capabilities, investigators might even track his whereabouts.

Though the government isn't necessarily doing any of this, Mr. Steinhardt fears it's just a matter of time.

- Research headed by John Poindexter, a former national security adviser, to develop Total Information Awareness, a computer system to mine phone, credit card and other records in hopes of spotting clues and patterns to identify would-be terrorists.

- Draft legislation in the U.S. Justice Department calling for, among other things, a DNA database of "suspected terrorists" and extended penalties for scrambling communications in the commission of a crime.

- A new airline-passenger screening system, called CAPPS II, to check such things as credit reports and consumer transactions and compare passenger names with those on government watch lists.

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04-01-2003, 10:31 AM

"Though the government isn't necessarily doing any of this, Mr. Steinhardt fears it's just a matter of time."

So even though it says they don't know if the govt is doing this, you're just assuming Uncle Sam is tracking everyone's whereabouts now and that Big Brother has arrived because Mr. Steinhardt fears it may happen at some point?

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04-01-2003, 10:32 AM

I welcome Big Brother with open arms.

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04-01-2003, 10:37 AM

Originally posted by directfiesta
In case you think this guy is a paranoid for real, here is a small quote:

http://www.globetechnology.com/servl...lu0331/GTStory

Big Brother has arrived ... Freedom is so nice...

The CIA just called me and told me they are on to you, and that you'll be next. Oh, wait... breaking news... they're already at your door. hear them?
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04-01-2003, 10:41 AM

hahaha, the liberal dopes always fail to mention that the government would still have to obtain a search warrant. (still can't get one of those without cause)

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04-01-2003, 11:39 AM

Only aimed at the non-liberals...

Use a Firewall, Go to Jail

The states of Massachusetts and Texas are preparing to consider bills that apparently are intended to extend the national Digital Millennium Copyright Act. (TX bill; MA bill) The bills are obviously related to each other somehow, since they are textually similar.

Here is one example of the far-reaching harmful effects of these bills. Both bills would flatly ban the possession, sale, or use of technologies that "conceal from a communication service provider ... the existence or place of origin or destination of any communication". Your ISP is a communication service provider, so anything that concealed the origin or destination of any communication from your ISP would be illegal -- with no exceptions.

If you send or receive your email via an encrypted connection, you're in violation, because the "To" and "From" lines of the emails are concealed from your ISP by encryption. (The encryption conceals the destinations of outgoing messages, and the sources of incoming messages.)

Worse yet, Network Address Translation (NAT), a technology widely used for enterprise security, operates by translating the "from" and "to" fields of Internet packets, thereby concealing the source or destination of each packet, and hence violating these bills. Most security "firewalls" use NAT, so if you use a firewall, you're in violation.

If you have a home DSL router, or if you use the "Internet Connection Sharing" feature of your favorite operating system product, you're in violation because these connection sharing technologies use NAT. Most operating system products (including every version of Windows introduced in the last five years, and virtually all versions of Linux) would also apparently be banned, because they support connection sharing via NAT.

And this is just one example of the problems with these bills. Yikes.

Now, bend over so they can fu.... .ss

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04-01-2003, 11:41 AM

Originally posted by FATPad
"Though the government isn't necessarily doing any of this, Mr. Steinhardt fears it's just a matter of time."

So even though it says they don't know if the govt is doing this, you're just assuming Uncle Sam is tracking everyone's whereabouts now and that Big Brother has arrived because Mr. Steinhardt fears it may happen at some point?

Are you able to read more than 3 lines??/ This guy is the one that fought to reversed the bill were porn on line would of been illegal...

Are you in that business or selling donuts hole?

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But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....
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04-01-2003, 11:43 AM

This guy is the one that fought to reversed the bill were porn on line would of been illegal...

true... he can have a free membership on any of my sites..

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04-01-2003, 11:44 AM

Originally posted by directfiesta

Are you able to read more than 3 lines??/ This guy is the one that fought to reversed the bill were porn on line would of been illegal...

Are you in that business or selling donuts hole?

WAFI!

Oh, I see.

So fighting a bill that would make online porn illegal suddenly makes his fear that the govt is tracking him through is cell phone worthy of the announcement "Big Brother has arrived"?

Gotcha.

Take your license plates off your car and stop eating Butterfingers. They are tracking you.

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04-01-2003, 12:01 PM

Originally posted by FATPad
Oh, I see.

So fighting a bill that would make online porn illegal suddenly makes his fear that the govt is tracking him through is cell phone worthy of the announcement "Big Brother has arrived"?

Gotcha.

Take your license plates off your car and stop eating Butterfingers. They are tracking you.

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04-01-2003, 12:58 PM

Originally posted by 12clicks
hahaha, the liberal dopes always fail to mention that the government would still have to obtain a search warrant. (still can't get one of those without cause)

Hmmm, I thought the new anti-Patriot Act severely limited, or in some cases eliminated, the requirements for judicial oversight on that?

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04-01-2003, 06:00 PM

Originally posted by TheJimmy

Hmmm, I thought the new anti-Patriot Act severely limited, or in some cases eliminated, the requirements for judicial oversight on that?

If you thought that, you'd be wrong.

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04-01-2003, 06:08 PM

Originally posted by directfiesta
Only aimed at the non-liberals...

Now, bend over so they can fu.... .ss

I'm pretty sure the "Use a firewall go to jail" bill that they were talking about there was written by someone who doesnt understand the net or current technologies enough to know that what they suggested is a little too broad.

I think what they are TRYING to ban is the illegal/unauthorized use of proxies.

I'm pretty sure Firewalls, NAT & encrypted packets will be safe

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04-01-2003, 06:15 PM

I'm not sure it's even worth posting with all the rhetoric.

There are two ways the future of surveillance can go:

Big Brother: only the governments and major corps have surveillance knowledge

Little Brother: everybody has it

Which of these two is better?

I'm pondering this question while making #2 a reality.

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04-01-2003, 06:35 PM

Might as well say they don't need a warrant... all they have to do is declare it terrorism, take it to spy court and no one is even allowed to question or SEE anything from there...

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04-01-2003, 06:38 PM

Originally posted by FATPad
"Though the government isn't necessarily doing any of this, Mr. Steinhardt fears it's just a matter of time."

So even though it says they don't know if the govt is doing this, you're just assuming Uncle Sam is tracking everyone's whereabouts now and that Big Brother has arrived because Mr. Steinhardt fears it may happen at some point?

I really hope you're not as stupid as you portray yourself.
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