The New Yorker States that the CIA and MI6 Lied about WMD in Order to Get their War!!

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  • stocktrader23
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    • Jan 2003
    • 18781

    #51
    Originally posted by iroc409


    50

    you need a dose of your own advice!
    I'm not trying to justify a war or no war on how I feel about it. He did. I don't give a shit if Bush carpet bombs the whole continent. Everyone here will see his motives some day way in the future. Until then they will argue about it until they are blue in the face.


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    • mule
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      • Jan 2002
      • 6085

      #52
      Originally posted by XSpider
      I stated we all have our own ideas and i respect that.... obviously you don't. And to your "Who gives a fuck what you think" then give me one good reason to why we should care what you think? You are just another dubmass that can't have a normall discussion. Prooves that your iq equals your shoe size. Why sucha reply anyway? You want everyone to have the same believes you do?
      Fuck, I always try not to be racist, but now I see why the Dutch have all these jokes about the idiocy of the Belgians
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      • XSpider
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        • Feb 2003
        • 356

        #53
        Originally posted by stocktrader23


        Lets see, maybe the fact that you said this.

        "Like i sayd before.... to me they didn't even have to come up with nuclear weapons, the reason i stated is more then enough to get him out of his chair. But we all have our own ideas about that and i respect that "

        I didn't say you can't have your own opinion. I said what the fuck does it matter what you think about who should do what. The government isn't listening to your ass and could give a fuck what you say. You can have your own idea and stance and disagree with me but the context of your posts is justifying this war based on your beliefs. Go tell the U.N. why you believe in the war. Maybe they'll change their minds. This war was not about liberating shit until it already started. The endless spill of shit GWB gave everyone all the way up until the first boom was we have to get WMD's away from Saddam. He had to start on his propaganda to make the sheep think the whole war was about freeing Iraqis. Now when the war ends GWB will be talking smack about how his plan to free Iraqis was successful while our troops are getting hit with suicide bombers and opposition even though we "won".
        The governement indeed doesn't give a fuck what i say. And they indeed aren't listening to my ass. And they also don't give a fuck about what YOU say and they aren't listening to YOUR ass. Remember that this post started from another article. As i stated before..... even my own governement condemns the war but they used Saddams killing to get more people to vote for them by stating on tv for the past fucking 10 years how wrong it is that he kills innocent people, but still they condemn the war now because it's almost election day uphere... common people. And i DO think it's bad that lies are applied to justify the war (if it is true) but TO MY OWN PIECE AND MIND the war is justified by Saddams past actions against his own poeple. Let's me ask it to you directly.... if you where 100 % SURE he hasn't got any nuclear weapons, for your own piece and mind would you agree that Saddam still has to go or not?
        Last edited by XSpider; 03-31-2003, 12:50 PM.
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        • XSpider
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          • Feb 2003
          • 356

          #54
          Originally posted by mule

          Fuck, I always try not to be racist, but now I see why the Dutch have all these jokes about the idiocy of the Belgians
          What is so idiot about my post? Please clarify yourself.
          Ps: we also have some good ones about the Dutch people, not that i don't love those guys with their coffeeshops.
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          • mule
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            • Jan 2002
            • 6085

            #55
            Originally posted by XSpider


            What is so idiot about my post? Please clarify yourself.
            Ps: we also have some good ones about the Dutch people, not that i don't love those guys with their coffeeshops.
            I was talking about ALL your posts
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            • XSpider
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              • Feb 2003
              • 356

              #56
              Originally posted by mule

              I was talking about ALL your posts
              Still clarify yourself....... or are just another person that thinks people are idiots because they don't have the same ideas/believes as you?
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              • mule
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                • Jan 2002
                • 6085

                #57
                No, not at all, I think people are idiots for parroting politicians, not thinking for themselves, forgetting historical facts when politicians lay the emphasis somewhere else, and not putting two and two together.
                And for being idiots
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                • directfiesta
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                  • Oct 2002
                  • 30227

                  #58
                  Originally posted by iroc409


                  our job was not to prove that saddam had wmd's, it was saddam's job to prove that he didn't and/or had destroyed them.
                  The pre-emptive dogma...

                  So, If I say that you murdered somebody, it is not to me to prove it, but to you to prove you didn't kill.... I hope "the victim" doesn't skip town: guilty without a body....

                  Are you OK to change the US laws to reflect your position????

                  Guilty until proven inncocent...
                  I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                  But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                  • HungSolo
                    Registered User
                    • Dec 2002
                    • 582

                    #59
                    so, being the head of the I.A.E.A. makes one an expert on forgery? And who are these 'sources' that magically appeared to cooroborate things?

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                    • XSpider
                      Confirmed User
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 356

                      #60
                      Originally posted by mule
                      No, not at all, I think people are idiots for parroting politicians, not thinking for themselves, forgetting historical facts when politicians lay the emphasis somewhere else, and not putting two and two together.
                      And for being idiots
                      Obviously you are the idiot here, i thought it was pretty clear from my posts that i don't give a fuck what politicians think or say. I sayd that for ME the fact remains that Saddam has to go. Not because the politicians say so but because he has a death toll of 800,000 on his hands an rising. Or are you saying that he never killed any innocent people and never will and i'm blinded because politicians say he did? Read ones posts cerafully before you call him/her an idiot..... Sir
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                      • tony299
                        lurker
                        • Aug 2002
                        • 57021

                        #61
                        Most what you heard why we are there is stories. Here is part of the United Press article about the resignation of Richard Perle at the end of the article it states

                        "Perle has been a leading, albeit somewhat free lance, voice in the Bush administration for a war with Iraq.As a campaign adviser, he suggested in 2000 to a Senate committee that
                        Bush would oust Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein if he were elected.
                        "Governor Bush has said ... he would fully implement the Iraq
                        Liberation Act. We all understand what that means. It means a serious and sustained effort to assist the opposition with a view to bringing down Saddam's regime," Perle said."


                        This was before 9/11 this was while he was still Governor of Texas.

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                        • iroc409
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                          • Jan 2003
                          • 4728

                          #62
                          Originally posted by directfiesta


                          The pre-emptive dogma...

                          So, If I say that you murdered somebody, it is not to me to prove it, but to you to prove you didn't kill.... I hope "the victim" doesn't skip town: guilty without a body....

                          Are you OK to change the US laws to reflect your position????

                          Guilty until proven inncocent...
                          not at all. it was proven after the first gulf war that saddam did indeed have wmd's, and was manufacturing them as well.

                          we told him to disarm. he was already guilty.

                          it was then his job to prove to the world that he "made himself right".
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                          • mule
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                            • Jan 2002
                            • 6085

                            #63
                            Originally posted by XSpider


                            Obviously you are the idiot here
                            OK, I'm also an idiot
                            *grin*
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                            • sherie
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                              • Feb 2002
                              • 7020

                              #64
                              Originally posted by ThunderBalls
                              Kind of funny. Republicans act like Clinton committed an act of treason about lying about a blow job, but when Bush lies to get a war, a war that has already created millions of enemies around the world and thousands will die because of it, the typical response is 'so what, all politicians lie'. Fucking hypocrites.
                              I certainly agree about the Clintion observation!
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                              • XSpider
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                                • Feb 2003
                                • 356

                                #65
                                Originally posted by mule

                                OK, I'm also an idiot
                                *grin*
                                Glad we agree on something lol.
                                Now can you send me over 5 gr black maroc?
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                                • mule
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                                  • Jan 2002
                                  • 6085

                                  #66
                                  Originally posted by XSpider


                                  Glad we agree on something lol.
                                  Now can you send me over 5 gr black maroc?
                                  LOL, would you believe I stopped smoking weed when I moved to Amsterdam?
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                                  • XSpider
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                                    • Feb 2003
                                    • 356

                                    #67
                                    Originally posted by mule

                                    LOL, would you believe I stopped smoking weed when I moved to Amsterdam?
                                    Kinda like getting a drivers license and never drive a car :-)
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