Is this the link between al Qaeda and Saddam Hussein?
It's a little early too speculate, but I found this interesting:
http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0...085609,00.html
http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0...085609,00.html
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'killing for religion, is something I don't understand.
fools like me, who cross the sea, and come to foreign land.
ask the sheep, for their beliefs, do you kill on god's command?'
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'killing for religion, is something I don't understand.
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They both have the same enemy....wouldn't be surprised if they're working together in some way....
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Think? you got's 2 have something to think with first. What they tried to teach me in school anyways.Originally posted by Sly_RJ
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One more opinion with some interesting ideas. Only time will tell. When this is over ag reat deal will be revealed.Comment
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They BOTH use TERROR to get their way and kill people....
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I think when they DO find illegal weapons, people will say they were planted. So at this point, it doesn't matter....Originally posted by Sly_RJ
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Why are there no anti-war people in this thread? They're in every other war thread but this one.Originally posted by ChrisH
I think when they DO find illegal weapons, people will say they were planted. So at this point, it doesn't matter....
For once I would actually like to see what they think about this. Could this possibly be a link? Or is it mere speculation and nothing more?PHAT SERVERS - Quality dedicated hosting at a quality price!
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Be careful man.... You'll be labeled 'BRAINWASHED'Originally posted by Sly_RJ
Why are there no anti-war people in this thread? They're in every other war thread but this one.
For once I would actually like to see what they think about this. Could this possibly be a link? Or is it mere speculation and nothing more?
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True. The haters and bashers will continue no matter what is found or what the results of the war are.Originally posted by ChrisH
I think when they DO find illegal weapons, people will say they were planted. So at this point, it doesn't matter....
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Hasn't Saddam admitted to paying off suicide bombers?Herschel Savage
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What are you brainwashed?Originally posted by RocHard
Hasn't Saddam admitted to paying off suicide bombers?
I don't think he's admitted it, but the Palistinians have confirmed it. But he's a nice guy....
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I don't know if he has admitted it but the Israeli's claim to have found documented proof on one of their incursions into one of the Palestinian cities. The Saudis (not the Royal Family) have also provided money to the families of "suicide bombers" and in fact even held a telethon.Originally posted by RocHard
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theking,Originally posted by theking
I don't know if he has admitted it but the Israeli's claim to have found documented proof on one of their incursions into one of the Palestinian cities. The Saudis (not the Royal Family) have also provided money to the families of "suicide bombers" and in fact even held a telethon.
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Noted. I will check the Library and see if they have it and if they don't, see if they can order it from another Library. I used to be a voracious reader but the pain I suffer has made it difficult to concentrate. I find myself reading the same page over and over again and do not have the retention level that I used to have, so I do not read books too often anymore.Originally posted by ChrisH
theking,
If you get a chance read Hatreds Kingdom by Dore Gold.When you're running down my country hoss...you're walking on the fighting side of me!
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You guys can have fun and try to make all the connections and such between the ragheads but the truth is, at the end of the day, they will all HAVE to join in order to stop us from changing their way of life.
All of them hate us at this point anyway and hate is an emotion that will bring even 1000 year old enemies together.
This thing isn't complicated. No, Saddam wasn't behind the 911 attack any more than I was behind the bike my criminal cousin stole from the kid down the block in 1988. Of course, since they are related by skin pigment and religion, most of you brainwashed guys will try and make connections until you feel you are right. Just like the kid down the block still to this day looks at me as if I had somethig to do with his bike being stolen.
Cast aside your kneejerk emotional responses and think about this logically. Saddam had nothing to do with 911. All the Arab nations are in some way related to Al Qaeda because of proximity and lineage but they are not necassarily behind any terrorist actions.
Unfortunately, now all of them wish they DID have something to do with it.I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade...
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I wouldn't think so, they haven't been able to provide any proof whatsoever, It's almost as bad as those "smoking pot supports terrorism" propaganda campaigns.. except a whole lot easier to believe. It wouldn't surprise me if it turned out there was some link.. but.. there really is no love between bin laden and saddam.. Saddam is MUCH more likely to have his own terrorist force than help out his enemy, even if the enemy of your enemy becomes your friend.
Look, the aim is to drum up support for the war, nothing more - and given that 70% (as of a few weeks ago) of americans believe saddam is in some way responsible for 9/11 it seems to be working.
lets just hope this war doesn't destabilse Pakistan and actually provide something much more tangible in the way of WMD getting into terrorist hands.Comment
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Hmm... did you even read the article?Originally posted by Pornwolf
You guys can have fun and try to make all the connections and such between the ragheads but the truth is, at the end of the day, they will all HAVE to join in order to stop us from changing their way of life.
All of them hate us at this point anyway and hate is an emotion that will bring even 1000 year old enemies together.
This thing isn't complicated. No, Saddam wasn't behind the 911 attack any more than I was behind the bike my criminal cousin stole from the kid down the block in 1988. Of course, since they are related by skin pigment and religion, most of you brainwashed guys will try and make connections until you feel you are right. Just like the kid down the block still to this day looks at me as if I had somethig to do with his bike being stolen.
Cast aside your kneejerk emotional responses and think about this logically. Saddam had nothing to do with 911. All the Arab nations are in some way related to Al Qaeda because of proximity and lineage but they are not necassarily behind any terrorist actions.
Unfortunately, now all of them wish they DID have something to do with it.
The article has nothing to do with 9/11. What are you talking about? A little pent up frustration?PHAT SERVERS - Quality dedicated hosting at a quality price!
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I keep seeing this argument... media propaganda is basically what you're referring to.Originally posted by bhutocracy
Look, the aim is to drum up support for the war, nothing more - and given that 70% (as of a few weeks ago) of americans believe saddam is in some way responsible for 9/11 it seems to be working.
We must have different news sources. The news I'm seeing, sure as hell doesn't look good. If this is the Administrations of "propaganda". They're doing a shitty job.PHAT SERVERS - Quality dedicated hosting at a quality price!
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70% sounds like a good job to me... even allowing for BS it's still high.Originally posted by Sly_RJ
I keep seeing this argument... media propaganda is basically what you're referring to.
We must have different news sources. The news I'm seeing, sure as hell doesn't look good. If this is the Administrations of "propaganda". They're doing a shitty job.Comment
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Sly, even if it wasn't spoken, the reason any news source mentions Al Qaeda and Saddam in the same sentence is to try to connect him to the 911 attacks in some way. You are waaay to smart to even have me believe you don't know that.I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade...
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I don't know a single person that thinks Saddam had anything to do with 9/11. I do not know what poll you are referring to but polls can be and are skewed by whoever takes the poll and the way questions are asked. I have seen polls that reflect the view that Saddam had something to do with 9/11, with various percentages showing yes. I have also seen many local stations doing on the street inverviews that asked the question, do you think Saddam had anything to do with 9/11, and every response that I have seen has been "I woudn't put it past him." That is far different than answering yes.Originally posted by bhutocracy
70% sounds like a good job to me... even allowing for BS it's still high.
My question is to you Americans, do you know anyone that believes that Saddam had something to do with 9/11?When you're running down my country hoss...you're walking on the fighting side of me!
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Americans! Do you personally know someone that thinks Saddam had some connection with 9/11?When you're running down my country hoss...you're walking on the fighting side of me!
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I have spoken to quite a few salt of the earth Americans that do. This is why I said what I said previously. If you know how to make a website the chances are good that you are slightly above average intelligence compared to the norm so you are less likely to fall for the dumb stuff. Unfortunately the average person is a sheep that only knows what he is told by CNN, Rush, or even worse... Jerry Springer.
Don't try to defend the public's intelligence King, it's a losing battle.I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade...
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How would you explain the street interviews, when the only response I have seen that even came close to expressing that Saddam had some connection to 9/11, was the "I wouldn't put it past him."?Originally posted by Pornwolf
I have spoken to quite a few salt of the earth Americans that do. This is why I said what I said previously. If you know how to make a website the chances are good that you are slightly above average intelligence compared to the norm so you are less likely to fall for the dumb stuff. Unfortunately the average person is a sheep that only knows what he is told by CNN, Rush, or even worse... Jerry Springer.
Don't try to defend the public's intelligence King, it's a losing battle.When you're running down my country hoss...you're walking on the fighting side of me!
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King, it depends on what slant the people collecting the soundbites want. Usually they are young liberal news assistants sent out to do the collecting so you will end up with what you are seeing now.I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade...
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I think the real link is Saddam gave Osma oral in a Al Qaeda caveComment
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To a Muslim a suicide bomber is a hero, a martyr and ensured of a place in heavan.
Why can't some Americans grasp the fact that not everyone thinks the same as they do?Comment
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I've even seen quite a few people on this board link 9/11 to Saddam. Quite a few people defend the invasion with references to 9/11, either implying Saddam was behind it or downright stating it. Isn't a song called "Have you forgotten?" really popular right now?Originally posted by theking
How would you explain the street interviews, when the only response I have seen that even came close to expressing that Saddam had some connection to 9/11, was the "I wouldn't put it past him."?
Another example of how the two are linked, in an "article" that I have received by email a few dozen times now (btw, next person who sends it to me gets shot in the face):
Note how Saddam Hussein, Osama bin Laden and Islam are all conveniently grouped together. People do make a slight distinction, yet seem to see all these things as part of a whole."TRYING TO HELP"
By Dennis Miller
All the rhetoric on whether or not we should go to war against Iraq has got my little brain spinning like a top. I enjoy reading opinions from both sides, but I've detected a hint of confusion from some of you. Maybe this can help.
Here are ten things to consider when voicing an opinion on this important issue:
(1) Between President Bush and Saddam Hussein ... Hussein is the bad guy.
(2) If you have faith in the United Nations to do the right things, keep this in mind: the UN has Libya heading the Committee on Human Rights and Iraq heading the Global Disarmament Committee. Do your own math here.
(3) If you use a Google or Yahoo search and type in "French Military Victories," don't be surprised if your computer panics at its
inability to respond to your inquiry.
(4) If your only anti-war slogan is "No War For Oil," hire a pit bull
lawyer and sue your school district for having allowed you to slip
through the cracks and robbing you of the minimum education that any non-troglodyte deserves.
(5) You can take this one to the bank: Saddam and bin Laden will NOT seek UN approval before they try to kill us.
(6) Despite common belief among some, Martin Sheen is NOT the
President. He only plays one on TV.
(7) If you are anti-war and even an outright "America Basher," to bin Laden you are still an "infidel" whom he wants dead.
(8) Be careful: if you believe in a "vast right-wing conspiracy," but
not in the danger that Hussein poses, the only job you may be able to get is as an Ivy League college professor.
(9) Even multi-culturalists who try to browbeat us into believing that all cultures are equally deserving of respect have trouble explaining the past 500 years of Islam.
(10) Whether you are for or against military action, our young men and women overseas are fighting to defend our right to speak out on these issues. They deserve our unreserved support.
The last point says it all: "are fighting to defend our right to speak out on these issues". Many people seem to think the "American way of life" is under attack, not just by Islamic fundamentalist terrorist groups, but by everything even remotely Islamic. Although I'm just speculating, I wouldn't be surprised if a majority of people actually believe Hussein to be a Islamic fundamentalist./(bb|[^b]{2})/Comment
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Regarding the article this thread is about:
Originally, there was no love between Saddam and Islamic fundamentalists. None whatsoever. However, what is being done now is <b>creating</b> a link by providing a big, threatening common enemy; America.
Simply put:
The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
What the USA are doing at the moment almost seems like an incredibly succesful campaign to unite the Islamic world./(bb|[^b]{2})/Comment
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Who the fuck thinks Iraq had anything to do with Sept. 11th?
I know no one who thinks this.
However, the Iraqi Embassy was the only one in NYC that didn't lower there flag to half staff after it happened. Syria, Arabia, Iran all did but not Iraq. So I could give a fuck about that regime.
Although this was found in one of the LIBERATED baath party headquaters. You make the call.
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Bullshit.Originally posted by Pornwolf
All of them hate us at this point anyway and hate is an emotion that will bring even 1000 year old enemies together.
This thing isn't complicated.
Hate can be the most focused, driving force in ones life.
Fear is what Saddam uses, not hate. Hate underlines fear, not the other way around.
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another excuse for war.
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Not true.Originally posted by charly
To a Muslim a suicide bomber is a hero, a martyr and ensured of a place in heavan.
Why can't some Americans grasp the fact that not everyone thinks the same as they do?
Only the brainwashed dolts think that. You ever hear of any of the leaders doing it? No, they just get the dolts to believe.The next generation of SEOComment
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Personally the only link i see between saddam and 9/11 is the fact that they share the exact same methods. Terrorism.The next generation of SEOComment
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Once this is over and all the remaining records are uncovered we might find a lot of things no one expects. It is an uglyt war, there are no pretty wars.Originally posted by nuclei
Personally the only link i see between saddam and 9/11 is the fact that they share the exact same methods. Terrorism.Comment
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Saddam was in "Diner" with Kevin Bacon.
Kevin Bacon was in "Sleepers" with jason Patrick.
Jason Patrick was in "Rush" with Sam Elliot.
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I think the news media OWNZ JOOOriginally posted by Sly_RJ
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With this logic, that would make both of them our "friend".Originally posted by punkworld
Simply put:
The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
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How in the hell did you guys get to talking about 9/11?
I was asking about al Qaeda and Saddam Hussein. Please read the article and forget about 9/11.
The article in question was about the suicide bombing Saturday morning in Iraq. In case you hadn't heard, a taxi driven by what seems to be an Iraqi man, pulled up to a check point. Two coalition soldiers stood in front of the taxi, while two coalition soldiers stood behind the taxi. Boom. Suicide bomber.
A member of the Iraqi National Congress (an exiled group of Kurds, so yes, there is bias) believes that an al Qaeda cell operating in Najaf and Karbala regions could have arranged this bombing.
All I said, was I found this article interesting. Yes, it is biased. However, even in most bias you can and often will find something that is true.The group is acting on an agreement made between Osama Bin Laden and Saddam Hussein which would allow al Qaeda to take control of the area if they can defend it, the INC says.
Maybe something will come of this, maybe it won't. Who knows. Time will tell. But to doubt that Saddam would do something like this is silly.PHAT SERVERS - Quality dedicated hosting at a quality price!
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