Just read it in the newspaper. This could be the start of the worst case scenario - a new cold war, this time between the EU (and maybe Russia) and the US (and maybe the UK).
Germany to start building up army again
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So you think the UK would leave the EU and become part of some new "cold war" with the US?Originally posted by punkworld
Yes, so is Spain. So?
That does not say anything about future relations and alliances.I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do,
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I can see it coming.
The good old superpowers from the 18th and 19th centuries. Germany, France, UK, Russia
And don't forget China
China GDP purchase power parity $6 trillion
GDP growth 8%
est.2002
(in comparison USA $10.082 trillion
GDP growth 0.3%)
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I think that possibility exists, although they might just as well choose the other side. Note that I'm not talking about "starting a cold war", but about "a cold war starting". There is a big difference - no clear initiatives needed, just worsening international relations which lead to hostility and eventually maybe even more.Originally posted by BRISK
So you think the UK would leave the EU and become part of some new "cold war" with the US?
Also, this would take quite a few years. I am in no way saying that in 5 years France and Germany will invade the US or something silly like that./(bb|[^b]{2})/Comment
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Yep. It's no fun surrendering to Germany unless you can do it on a mass scale. Go big or go home. Or go big then surrender and go home.Originally posted by Colin
Now France will have to increase theirs. ;-)
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2250 ???Originally posted by mika
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No brainer to calculate when China has caught up
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there's one thing that starts and prevents wars - money. The economies of the west are far too interdependent and a "cold war" between US and EU would do severe damage to the economies of all countries concerned. That would be enough to prevent relations freezing over too much. Anyway i think the rift between france/germany and US/UK has been overstaded. 6 months down the road and they'll all be the best of friends. (group hug)Comment
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I have no clue where you get your news but it can be only written on restroom doors.
Germany has decreased their army size for years and still continues to do so. Germany is a Nato ally and last time I checked we are honoring all Nato aggreements. Just because a country is not cheering about a war hardly any country wants will make them an enemy.SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.Comment
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It's funny you say that. If the US Govt were to think that Germany was trying to pose a threat they'd simply raise the tarrifs on german imports and put all german companies out of business. In this day and age almost all countries depend on the US.Comment
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A Cold War? Come on. You think nations are going to get pissed off enough to commit economic suicide?PHAT SERVERS - Quality dedicated hosting at a quality price!
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"and the US (and maybe the UK)."
... pardon me, the UK will be gone in a couple of weeks, with all the bristish soldiers in iraq, germany and france have developed secret attacking plans ... and this time we will take that fucking island !!!Comment
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yeah right! i believe the last time we british were invaded was 1066. and i can't see it happening in the next 1000 years eitherOriginally posted by funkmaster
"and the US (and maybe the UK)."
... pardon me, the UK will be gone in a couple of weeks, with all the bristish soldiers in iraq, germany and france have developed secret attacking plans ... and this time we will take that fucking island !!!
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canada is secretly mounting our forces to CONCOR the US since all their forces are in the middle east. We're just gona walk in and TAKE OVER.This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!
Now read without the word dog.Comment
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"i believe the last time we british were invaded was 1066."
... yes, I remember that, I was a young lad of 12 and came in my pants for the very first time.
... just heared on the news, british military minister orders soldiers back to defend homeland !!!Comment
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Originally posted by SleazyDream
canada is secretly mounting our forces to CONCOR the US since all their forces are in the middle east. We're just gona walk in and TAKE OVER.
ahahah... try it, asshole
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... after taking england we will join forces with canada ... hmmm french canadians !!!Originally posted by SleazyDream
canada is secretly mounting our forces to CONCOR the US since all their forces are in the middle east. We're just gona walk in and TAKE OVER.
... and then we will all fight iRan, I heared they have weapons of mass destructions ...Comment
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oh you're french, that explains your bitternessOriginally posted by funkmaster
... after taking england we will join forces with canada ... hmmm french canadians !!!
... and then we will all fight iRan, I heared they have weapons of mass destructions ...Comment
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"oh you're french, that explains your bitterness"
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What are we going to use for weapons? Are we going to pour maple syrup on the Americans or bring some of our beavers to destroy their landOriginally posted by SleazyDream
canada is secretly mounting our forces to CONCOR the US since all their forces are in the middle east. We're just gona walk in and TAKE OVER.
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andi_germany & Validus: Schroder said in an interview in Die Zeit last thursday that Germany should be able to fend for itself (that is, no military dependance of America) and that investments in the army would have to be talked about.
Fischer has been in favor of "strengthening Europe's military capacity" for a while now - at least, that's what he says in interviews.
The CDU is very enthusiastic about the idea, which isn't a surprise since they were in favor of strengthening the military already. Their only reservation is that it shouldn't become an arms race with the US.
Now, for all those talking about how the economy wouldn't allow something like this:
Note, again, that I'm not talking about the short term (e.g. <10 years). Also note, again, that I'm not talking about hostile initiatives but rather about worsening international relations.
Now, obviously, if these worsen, the economical ties will diminish as well over the course of the decades to come. The EU in itself can be seen as a good example of this, since it promotes keeping business within the EU and out of the US as much as possible - fairly unsuccesfully until now, but if you think in decades instead of in weeks changes are significant.
In the long run this could very well lead to relatively weak economic ties between the US and the EU./(bb|[^b]{2})/Comment



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