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  • Libertine
    sex dwarf
    • May 2002
    • 17860

    #1

    Germany to start building up army again

    Just read it in the newspaper. This could be the start of the worst case scenario - a new cold war, this time between the EU (and maybe Russia) and the US (and maybe the UK).
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  • BRISK
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    • Feb 2003
    • 12240

    #2
    The UK is in the EU!
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    • a1ka1ine
      Confirmed User
      • Apr 2002
      • 3387

      #3
      Originally posted by BRISK
      The UK is in the EU!

      666- post of the beast! :-o

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      • ADL Colin
        Too lazy to set a custom title
        • Feb 2001
        • 11929

        #4
        Now France will have to increase theirs. ;-)

        PW, does the newspaper carry the numbers for the increase in defense spending?


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        • Libertine
          sex dwarf
          • May 2002
          • 17860

          #5
          Originally posted by BRISK
          The UK is in the EU!
          Yes, so is Spain. So?
          That does not say anything about future relations and alliances.
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          • Libertine
            sex dwarf
            • May 2002
            • 17860

            #6
            Originally posted by Colin
            Now France will have to increase theirs. ;-)

            PW, does the newspaper carry the numbers for the increase in defense spending?
            No numbers, just plans in the making.
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            • BRISK
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • Feb 2003
              • 12240

              #7
              Originally posted by punkworld


              Yes, so is Spain. So?
              That does not say anything about future relations and alliances.
              So you think the UK would leave the EU and become part of some new "cold war" with the US?
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              • mika
                Confirmed User
                • Sep 2001
                • 1561

                #8
                I can see it coming.

                The good old superpowers from the 18th and 19th centuries. Germany, France, UK, Russia

                And don't forget China
                China GDP purchase power parity $6 trillion
                GDP growth 8%
                est.2002

                (in comparison USA $10.082 trillion
                GDP growth 0.3%)

                No brainer to calculate when China has caught up

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                • Libertine
                  sex dwarf
                  • May 2002
                  • 17860

                  #9
                  Originally posted by BRISK


                  So you think the UK would leave the EU and become part of some new "cold war" with the US?
                  I think that possibility exists, although they might just as well choose the other side. Note that I'm not talking about "starting a cold war", but about "a cold war starting". There is a big difference - no clear initiatives needed, just worsening international relations which lead to hostility and eventually maybe even more.
                  Also, this would take quite a few years. I am in no way saying that in 5 years France and Germany will invade the US or something silly like that.
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                  • BRISK
                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 12240

                    #10
                    Not gonna happen.
                    I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do,
                    I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.

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                    • FATPad
                      Confirmed User
                      • Oct 2001
                      • 6693

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Colin
                      Now France will have to increase theirs. ;-)
                      Yep. It's no fun surrendering to Germany unless you can do it on a mass scale. Go big or go home. Or go big then surrender and go home.
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                      • Praguer
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                        • Dec 2002
                        • 991

                        #12
                        Beware of Germany, aint no Irak

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                        • AWW - Kevin
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                          • Jan 2002
                          • 2353

                          #13
                          Originally posted by mika
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                          No brainer to calculate when China has caught up
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                          • roly
                            Confirmed User
                            • Aug 2002
                            • 1844

                            #14
                            there's one thing that starts and prevents wars - money. The economies of the west are far too interdependent and a "cold war" between US and EU would do severe damage to the economies of all countries concerned. That would be enough to prevent relations freezing over too much. Anyway i think the rift between france/germany and US/UK has been overstaded. 6 months down the road and they'll all be the best of friends. (group hug)

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                            • andi_germany
                              Confirmed User
                              • Oct 2002
                              • 768

                              #15
                              I have no clue where you get your news but it can be only written on restroom doors.

                              Germany has decreased their army size for years and still continues to do so. Germany is a Nato ally and last time I checked we are honoring all Nato aggreements. Just because a country is not cheering about a war hardly any country wants will make them an enemy.
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                              • Ron2k1
                                Confirmed User
                                • Sep 2001
                                • 1573

                                #16
                                What a bullshit! How could you even think of a coldwar between Europe and USA.... idiot

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                                • Validus
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Jul 2001
                                  • 4012

                                  #17
                                  andi: Agreed... somebody in my family has been with the German army for 12 years now and he says the same.

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                                  • daman420
                                    Registered User
                                    • Oct 2001
                                    • 63

                                    #18
                                    It's funny you say that. If the US Govt were to think that Germany was trying to pose a threat they'd simply raise the tarrifs on german imports and put all german companies out of business. In this day and age almost all countries depend on the US.

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                                    • Dax
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                                      • Apr 2002
                                      • 3161

                                      #19
                                      It is not only the EU or Russia or China that want to invade us... Jamaica is planning to invade the US ...

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                                      • Sly_RJ
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                                        • Feb 2002
                                        • 17042

                                        #20
                                        A Cold War? Come on. You think nations are going to get pissed off enough to commit economic suicide?
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                                        • funkmaster
                                          So Fucking Banned
                                          • Sep 2001
                                          • 7938

                                          #21
                                          "and the US (and maybe the UK)."

                                          ... pardon me, the UK will be gone in a couple of weeks, with all the bristish soldiers in iraq, germany and france have developed secret attacking plans ... and this time we will take that fucking island !!!

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                                          • Gary
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                                            • Aug 2001
                                            • 6110

                                            #22
                                            Just heard on CNN

                                            France has surrendered

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                                            • roly
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                                              • Aug 2002
                                              • 1844

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by funkmaster
                                              "and the US (and maybe the UK)."

                                              ... pardon me, the UK will be gone in a couple of weeks, with all the bristish soldiers in iraq, germany and france have developed secret attacking plans ... and this time we will take that fucking island !!!
                                              yeah right! i believe the last time we british were invaded was 1066. and i can't see it happening in the next 1000 years either

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                                              • funkmaster
                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                • Sep 2001
                                                • 7938

                                                #24
                                                btw: punkword, what´s the name of that newspaper you´ve been reading?

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                                                • SleazyDream
                                                  I'm here for SPORT
                                                  • Jul 2001
                                                  • 41470

                                                  #25
                                                  canada is secretly mounting our forces to CONCOR the US since all their forces are in the middle east. We're just gona walk in and TAKE OVER.
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                                                  • funkmaster
                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                    • Sep 2001
                                                    • 7938

                                                    #26
                                                    "i believe the last time we british were invaded was 1066."

                                                    ... yes, I remember that, I was a young lad of 12 and came in my pants for the very first time.

                                                    ... just heared on the news, british military minister orders soldiers back to defend homeland !!!

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                                                    • iroc409
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                                                      • Jan 2003
                                                      • 4728

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by SleazyDream
                                                      canada is secretly mounting our forces to CONCOR the US since all their forces are in the middle east. We're just gona walk in and TAKE OVER.

                                                      ahahah... try it, asshole

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                                                      • funkmaster
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                                                        • Sep 2001
                                                        • 7938

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by SleazyDream
                                                        canada is secretly mounting our forces to CONCOR the US since all their forces are in the middle east. We're just gona walk in and TAKE OVER.
                                                        ... after taking england we will join forces with canada ... hmmm french canadians !!!

                                                        ... and then we will all fight iRan, I heared they have weapons of mass destructions ...

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                                                        • roly
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Aug 2002
                                                          • 1844

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by funkmaster


                                                          ... after taking england we will join forces with canada ... hmmm french canadians !!!

                                                          ... and then we will all fight iRan, I heared they have weapons of mass destructions ...
                                                          oh you're french, that explains your bitterness

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                                                          • funkmaster
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                                                            • Sep 2001
                                                            • 7938

                                                            #30
                                                            "oh you're french, that explains your bitterness"

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                                                            • pornjudge
                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                              • Jun 2002
                                                              • 2214

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by SleazyDream
                                                              canada is secretly mounting our forces to CONCOR the US since all their forces are in the middle east. We're just gona walk in and TAKE OVER.
                                                              What are we going to use for weapons? Are we going to pour maple syrup on the Americans or bring some of our beavers to destroy their land

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                                                              • sneaker
                                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                                • Dec 2002
                                                                • 251

                                                                #32
                                                                Dude, not yet, I want my wife to get stationed in Germany first so we can run amuk in Europe...

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                                                                • Libertine
                                                                  sex dwarf
                                                                  • May 2002
                                                                  • 17860

                                                                  #33
                                                                  andi_germany & Validus: Schroder said in an interview in Die Zeit last thursday that Germany should be able to fend for itself (that is, no military dependance of America) and that investments in the army would have to be talked about.
                                                                  Fischer has been in favor of "strengthening Europe's military capacity" for a while now - at least, that's what he says in interviews.
                                                                  The CDU is very enthusiastic about the idea, which isn't a surprise since they were in favor of strengthening the military already. Their only reservation is that it shouldn't become an arms race with the US.

                                                                  Now, for all those talking about how the economy wouldn't allow something like this:
                                                                  Note, again, that I'm not talking about the short term (e.g. <10 years). Also note, again, that I'm not talking about hostile initiatives but rather about worsening international relations.
                                                                  Now, obviously, if these worsen, the economical ties will diminish as well over the course of the decades to come. The EU in itself can be seen as a good example of this, since it promotes keeping business within the EU and out of the US as much as possible - fairly unsuccesfully until now, but if you think in decades instead of in weeks changes are significant.
                                                                  In the long run this could very well lead to relatively weak economic ties between the US and the EU.
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                                                                  • Hooterdog
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Mar 2002
                                                                    • 602

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by SleazyDream
                                                                    canada is secretly mounting our forces to CONCOR the US since all their forces are in the middle east. We're just gona walk in and TAKE OVER.
                                                                    don't try it . . . our Boy Scouts troops are ready for you

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                                                                    • playa
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Feb 2001
                                                                      • 6432

                                                                      #35
                                                                      There is a huge US military presence in Germany,

                                                                      I wouldn't doubt that UN would fail and all the US troops will be out of europe,

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                                                                      • marty
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                                                                        • Feb 2002
                                                                        • 1656

                                                                        #36
                                                                        WOOHOO

                                                                        About time.
                                                                        The germans haven't started a war in so long, I was beginning to think it would skip our generation.

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                                                                        • sneaker
                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                          • Dec 2002
                                                                          • 251

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by marty
                                                                          WOOHOO

                                                                          About time.
                                                                          The germans haven't started a war in so long, I was beginning to think it would skip our generation.
                                                                          Your right what would be a generation with out a war that france would surrender.

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