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  • lil2rich4u2
    ICQ: 175171926
    • Oct 2002
    • 11046

    #1

    50k and only 86 signups today? wtf?

    hmm

    This is defying all laws of physics here!

    I sent 50k to a gallery promoting ebony, the traffic was from 3 paid spots, as well as 3 VIP submit accounts i have, and a bunch of smaller TGP's.

    50k to the gallery

    709 to the sponsor

    and only 68 signups?

    wtf?


    heres the gallery:
    http://www.asiasbabes.com/gal/ebony/index.html



    did i majorly fuck this up somehow?
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  • Turboface
    Back in Black
    • Mar 2002
    • 9976

    #2
    Originally posted by lil2rich4u2
    hmm

    This is defying all laws of physics here!

    I sent 50k to a gallery promoting ebony, the traffic was from 3 paid spots, as well as 3 VIP submit accounts i have, and a bunch of smaller TGP's.

    50k to the gallery

    709 to the sponsor

    and only 68 signups?

    wtf?


    heres the gallery:
    http://www.asiasbabes.com/gal/ebony/index.html



    did i majorly fuck this up somehow?


    Where did you buy the traffic from?
    Search Engine Optimization Services for Adult Sites

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    • TDF
      Triple OG nigga on GFY
      • Mar 2002
      • 27296

      #3
      well first off...you can tell a total whitey wrote the text....ebony surfers like a little flair in text..like you really do love what your doing..
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      • Gman.357
        Confirmed User
        • Oct 2002
        • 2796

        #4
        Wait a minute... you got 68 signups out of 709 hits to a sponsor and you're complaining?

        Maybe I'm not reading the post right. Because that's like 1:10 ratio.

        What am I reading wrong?


        Ouch.

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        • lil2rich4u2
          ICQ: 175171926
          • Oct 2002
          • 11046

          #5
          Originally posted by Turboface




          Where did you buy the traffic from?

          Rather not say, i dont want them thinking that im implying they have shit traffic, this could be 100% my fault, thats why im asking
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          • Pipecrew
            Master of Gfy.com
            • Feb 2002
            • 14888

            #6
            Someone get me a new pair of boots, Its getting difficult walking around in all this HORSESHIT

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            • TDF
              Triple OG nigga on GFY
              • Mar 2002
              • 27296

              #7
              Originally posted by Gman.357
              Wait a minute... you got 68 signups out of 709 hits to a sponsor and you're complaining?

              Maybe I'm not reading the post right. Because that's like 1:10 ratio.

              What am I reading wrong?


              sssshhh
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              • psyko514
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                • Oct 2002
                • 22366

                #8
                Originally posted by Gman.357
                Wait a minute... you got 68 signups out of 709 hits to a sponsor and you're complaining?

                Maybe I'm not reading the post right. Because that's like 1:10 ratio.

                What am I reading wrong?

                i think he's complaining about the click-thru rate on the gallery. 50k hits, and only 709 clicked thru to the sponsor.

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                • WiredGuy
                  Pounding Googlebot
                  • Aug 2002
                  • 34516

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Gman.357
                  Wait a minute... you got 68 signups out of 709 hits to a sponsor and you're complaining?

                  Maybe I'm not reading the post right. Because that's like 1:10 ratio.

                  What am I reading wrong?

                  You read right, you probably didn't visit the sponsor and notice it's a 4Free sponsor though...

                  WG
                  I play with Google.

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                  • Martin
                    "Assassins"
                    • Dec 2001
                    • 17274

                    #10
                    I think he's FULL OF SHIT..

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                    • lil2rich4u2
                      ICQ: 175171926
                      • Oct 2002
                      • 11046

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Gman.357
                      Wait a minute... you got 68 signups out of 709 hits to a sponsor and you're complaining?

                      Maybe I'm not reading the post right. Because that's like 1:10 ratio.

                      What am I reading wrong?


                      exactly

                      the ratio is 1:9 but thats not what im complaining about ...

                      Doing my math i see it this way ...

                      50k to the gallery ...
                      5% CTR = 2,500
                      1:9 = 277 signups


                      I SHOULD have gotten 277 signups (based on my math) which is why i didnt mind dishing out the bucks for the spots.

                      I need to correct this FAST before anymore traffic comes and i waste it.
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                      • rdunn404
                        Confirmed User
                        • Jan 2002
                        • 999

                        #12
                        title reads: 86 signups
                        message reads: 68 signups


                        ...which is it? Get your story straight O.J.!!!

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                        • pine
                          Confirmed User
                          • Oct 2002
                          • 1373

                          #13
                          is it 86? or 68? either way, playboy...that's a great ratio from a so-so ebony gallery hosted on an "asiababes" domain.

                          lol@dunn....
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                          • mike503
                            Confirmed User
                            • May 2002
                            • 2243

                            #14
                            you got 68 (or 86) signups on that gallery?
                            php/mysql guru. hosting, coding, all that jazz.

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                            • nocostporn
                              Confirmed User
                              • Mar 2002
                              • 5228

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Gman.357
                              Wait a minute... you got 68 signups out of 709 hits to a sponsor and you're complaining?

                              Maybe I'm not reading the post right. Because that's like 1:10 ratio.

                              What am I reading wrong?

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                              • Pointless
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                                • Jan 2003
                                • 2142

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Gman.357
                                Wait a minute... you got 68 signups out of 709 hits to a sponsor and you're complaining?

                                Maybe I'm not reading the post right. Because that's like 1:10 ratio.

                                What am I reading wrong?

                                yeah its only 1 dollar per sign so nothing special still 1:10 aint to shabby ctr blows however.
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                                • playa
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Feb 2001
                                  • 6432

                                  #17
                                  the first mistake is pushing a email sponsor from a tgp gallery

                                  email should be your last ditch effort to get a sale

                                  btw 5% clickthru is pretty good

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                                  • lil2rich4u2
                                    ICQ: 175171926
                                    • Oct 2002
                                    • 11046

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Martin
                                    I think he's FULL OF SHIT..

                                    why would i lie about an email sponsor? lol

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                                    • Gutterboy
                                      So Fucking Banned
                                      • Jul 2002
                                      • 4751

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by playa
                                      the first mistake is pushing a email sponsor from a tgp gallery

                                      email should be your last ditch effort to get a sale

                                      btw 5% clickthru is pretty good

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                                      • DrewKole
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Jul 2001
                                        • 5193

                                        #20
                                        Erm, going from 1 free site to another...

                                        Whats the interest in that gallery? They've already hit your site from a free site, I imagine they'll just close the gallery and scroll down for more.

                                        Promote something unique, or atleast put some unique text there.

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                                        • lil2rich4u2
                                          ICQ: 175171926
                                          • Oct 2002
                                          • 11046

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by playa
                                          the first mistake is pushing a email sponsor from a tgp gallery

                                          email should be your last ditch effort to get a sale

                                          btw 5% clickthru is pretty good

                                          i just figured if i can pull 1:8-1:15 (which i can), this would work out pretty well.

                                          Aparently i was wrong? lol


                                          What can i do to quickly increase my CTR?
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                                          • playa
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                                            • Feb 2001
                                            • 6432

                                            #22
                                            try to be more creative with your galleries,

                                            a good gallery layout could take over 3 hours to make

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                                            • lil2rich4u2
                                              ICQ: 175171926
                                              • Oct 2002
                                              • 11046

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by playa
                                              try to be more creative with your galleries,

                                              a good gallery layout could take over 3 hours to make

                                              So your saying this layout is bad? I actually liked it ... figured it was the text thats throwing off my CTR, not my layout.
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                                              • FrankWhite
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Nov 2002
                                                • 3540

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by lil2rich4u2
                                                hmm

                                                This is defying all laws of physics here!

                                                I sent 50k to a gallery promoting ebony, the traffic was from 3 paid spots, as well as 3 VIP submit accounts i have, and a bunch of smaller TGP's.

                                                50k to the gallery

                                                709 to the sponsor

                                                and only 68 signups?

                                                wtf?


                                                heres the gallery:
                                                http://www.asiasbabes.com/gal/ebony/index.html



                                                did i majorly fuck this up somehow?
                                                what is the sponsor that you are using ?

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                                                • playa
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Feb 2001
                                                  • 6432

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by lil2rich4u2



                                                  i just figured if i can pull 1:8-1:15 (which i can), this would work out pretty well.

                                                  Aparently i was wrong? lol


                                                  What can i do to quickly increase my CTR?

                                                  the problem is that you need to Maximize your CTR,

                                                  your not gonna get alot of clicks so its better to send it
                                                  to a say $35 sponsor,

                                                  say on the average if you convert 1:250 it'll come out better than email sponsor

                                                  send the traffic to a FPA from the gallery then add exit to email sponsor if they don't click on the FPA

                                                  thats how you maximize your traffic

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                                                  • playa
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Feb 2001
                                                    • 6432

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by lil2rich4u2



                                                    So your saying this layout is bad? I actually liked it ... figured it was the text thats throwing off my CTR, not my layout.
                                                    compare it with others,, i am surprised you even got a 5%
                                                    which is pretty high

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                                                    • G Sharp
                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                      • May 2002
                                                      • 1343

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by DrewKole
                                                      Erm, going from 1 free site to another...

                                                      Whats the interest in that gallery? They've already hit your site from a free site, I imagine they'll just close the gallery and scroll down for more.

                                                      Promote something unique, or atleast put some unique text there.
                                                      Promote something unique...? another adult niche? or adult product? Care to illuminate?

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                                                      • slapass
                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                        • Nov 2002
                                                        • 14625

                                                        #28
                                                        Who only pays .80 per email? BTW he has an in between page so you can expect higher conversion rates. But it you lose some surfers so your CTR is lower.

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                                                        • lil2rich4u2
                                                          ICQ: 175171926
                                                          • Oct 2002
                                                          • 11046

                                                          #29
                                                          Hey playa ...

                                                          I understand what you mean about the $35 sponsor and the exit solution ...

                                                          I was actually just looking to modify this gallery without changing layout or banners .... just changing text.

                                                          Hoping that will increase CTR a bit more and possibly pay me back for the gallery spots, lol
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                                                          • 49thParallel
                                                            So Fucking Banned
                                                            • Jul 2002
                                                            • 1197

                                                            #30
                                                            My Nice FPA...I can see why you are getting fairly good ratios. Most people these days are lucky to get 1 in 25 or less with FEB.

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                                                            • lil2rich4u2
                                                              ICQ: 175171926
                                                              • Oct 2002
                                                              • 11046

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by slapass
                                                              Who only pays .80 per email? BTW he has an in between page so you can expect higher conversion rates. But it you lose some surfers so your CTR is lower.

                                                              i have this domain hosted on revsharehosting (for free) and they take $0.20 per signup on this sponsor. ($5 on other sponsors) per signup.


                                                              Good point with the inbetween page though, i bet if i remove it i will see a better CTR, yet a lower ratio ... but might work out better for me.
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                                                              • Ray@TastyDollars
                                                                • May 2002
                                                                • 6797

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by lil2rich4u2



                                                                So your saying this layout is bad? I actually liked it ... figured it was the text thats throwing off my CTR, not my layout.
                                                                Nothing wrong with the layout, after all it is just tables. My I suggest this, remove that banner and in its place explain what the site is about. This way the text will load first and they get a chance to read it before the Pics load. Also, surfers dont like the word FREE, when they see free they think POP UPS. Why, because when this email thingy came out every one and his mother was pushing it with TGP. CLICK HERE FOR FREE...pop up hell.

                                                                Gees , I keep coming back to edit my FREE explination, lol. You could mention FREE when , say the site has a free video sample but dont tell them the membership is free, from my expirence they dont trust that

                                                                Or you could just buy a gallery template

                                                                Good luck
                                                                Last edited by Ray@TastyDollars; 03-26-2003, 08:34 PM.

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                                                                • lil2rich4u2
                                                                  ICQ: 175171926
                                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                                  • 11046

                                                                  #33
                                                                  ok i dropped the FPA, but cant add mouseovers because one of the TGP's doesnt allow me

                                                                  hope this helps!

                                                                  Any tips on the text?
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                                                                  • lil2rich4u2
                                                                    ICQ: 175171926
                                                                    • Oct 2002
                                                                    • 11046

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Ray


                                                                    Nothing wrong with the layout, after all it is just tables. My I suggest this, remove that banner and in its place explain what the site is about. This way the text will load first and they get a chance to read it before the Pics load. Also, surfers dont like the word FREE, when they see free they think POP UPS. Why, because when this email thingy came out every one and his mother was pushing it with TGP. CLICK HERE FOR FREE...pop up hell.

                                                                    Or you could just buy a gallery template

                                                                    Good luck

                                                                    I have bad luck with bought templates ...

                                                                    #1 i think they are very graphics heavy pages

                                                                    #2 i find simple templates work better (IMO)

                                                                    #3 i dont like to wait 4 weeks for the template after i order it (not giving names, heh)

                                                                    #4 your right about the "FREE" ... good idea
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                                                                    • lil2rich4u2
                                                                      ICQ: 175171926
                                                                      • Oct 2002
                                                                      • 11046

                                                                      #35
                                                                      wow!


                                                                      I got 4 signups since i dropped the FPA in the middle!


                                                                      good idea! (whoever that was)
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                                                                      • DearAbby
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Nov 2002
                                                                        • 979

                                                                        #36
                                                                        I do 1:25 with PornKings Exit traffic.

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                                                                        • Ray@TastyDollars
                                                                          • May 2002
                                                                          • 6797

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by lil2rich4u2



                                                                          I have bad luck with bought templates ...

                                                                          #1 i think they are very graphics heavy pages

                                                                          #2 i find simple templates work better (IMO)

                                                                          #3 i dont like to wait 4 weeks for the template after i order it (not giving names, heh)

                                                                          #4 your right about the "FREE" ... good idea
                                                                          "#1 i think they are very graphics heavy pages" mine are far from heavy

                                                                          "#2 i find simple templates work better (IMO)" very true

                                                                          "#3 i dont like to wait 4 weeks for the template after i order it (not giving names, heh)" 2 days here

                                                                          Oh and I edited my "FREE" statment on my other reply, check it out

                                                                          Ray

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                                                                          • lil2rich4u2
                                                                            ICQ: 175171926
                                                                            • Oct 2002
                                                                            • 11046

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by DearAbby
                                                                            I do 1:25 with PornKings Exit traffic.

                                                                            thats great for exit traffic!
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                                                                            • steffie
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • May 2002
                                                                              • 2422

                                                                              #39
                                                                              You may now shoot me 68 signups?

                                                                              Damn, ok, so I am a broke sucker over here, that does sound good to me. I trade you anytime with my shitty signups I had today pfff

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                                                                              Comment

                                                                              • lil2rich4u2
                                                                                ICQ: 175171926
                                                                                • Oct 2002
                                                                                • 11046

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by steffie
                                                                                You may now shoot me 68 signups?

                                                                                Damn, ok, so I am a broke sucker over here, that does sound good to me. I trade you anytime with my shitty signups I had today pfff

                                                                                #1, it was 86 not 68 (sorry for typo above)


                                                                                #2, it isnt that great, it only comes to $72 so far

                                                                                costed me more than that for the gallery spots, thank goodness the bandwidth is free, lol
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                                                                                • slapass
                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                  • Nov 2002
                                                                                  • 14625

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Careful changing the gallery if it is live. TGP's are not crazy about that. Maybe just redirect the FPA.

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                                                                                  • lil2rich4u2
                                                                                    ICQ: 175171926
                                                                                    • Oct 2002
                                                                                    • 11046

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    shit your right
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                                                                                    • QualityMpegs
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Feb 2003
                                                                                      • 3521

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      who're you buying traffic from?

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                                                                                      • Snake Doctor
                                                                                        I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                                                                                        • Mar 2001
                                                                                        • 13449

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Free Tip #1 - The eye moves from left to right, not up and down. Think about that for awhile

                                                                                        Free Tip #2 - Don't ever buy traffic for a gallery that you haven't tested yet. Get as much "free" traffic as you can to a template, so you'll know roughly how much $$ you make per 100K hits to the gallery. Then you can look at traffic prices and have an idea of what your profit (or loss) would be if you paid for spots.
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                                                                                        • Civic3D
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                                                                                          • Nov 2001
                                                                                          • 177

                                                                                          #45
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                                                                                          • Mark
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                                                                                            • Jul 2001
                                                                                            • 600

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Hmmm...


                                                                                            !!!Just A Counter!!!

                                                                                            DONT CLICK!


                                                                                            You do know that counters are not just a charity case giving you stats out of the goodness of their hearts, don't you??

                                                                                            In this case its a pay counter also.. god forbid that anyone might click it and you might have to make some money from it!!

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                                                                                            • Tuga
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Nov 2002
                                                                                              • 7678

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Are tweaking the gallery after it's listed??? Nice move...

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                                                                                              • VideoJ
                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                • Aug 2002
                                                                                                • 750

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                I sent 50k to a gallery promoting ebony,
                                                                                                And you don't have the world ebony (or black or sista or...) anywhere in your text. Also try tieing the text to the pictures. "Wanna see hot videos of me and my black girlfriends for FREE?"
                                                                                                Somebody stole my damn signture...

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                                                                                                • 49thParallel
                                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                  • Jul 2002
                                                                                                  • 1197

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Lil2Rich...I was curious as to how your stats have stacked up after you removed the FPA. Have the sales actually gone up?

                                                                                                  And, in response to a tip above about how people read ads....they do read left to right, but there is more to it then that...the actual pattern is:

                                                                                                  1) left to right
                                                                                                  2) Right corner to left bottom corner
                                                                                                  3) left to right bottom
                                                                                                  4) right bottom to left top

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                                                                                                  • strobi
                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                    • Nov 2002
                                                                                                    • 7383

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by 49thParallel
                                                                                                    Lil2Rich...I was curious as to how your stats have stacked up after you removed the FPA. Have the sales actually gone up?

                                                                                                    And, in response to a tip above about how people read ads....they do read left to right, but there is more to it then that...the actual pattern is:

                                                                                                    1) left to right
                                                                                                    2) Right corner to left bottom corner
                                                                                                    3) left to right bottom
                                                                                                    4) right bottom to left top

                                                                                                    Had to read that 10 times to get it

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