Lensman,
From: Lensman
To: Rob Mac
Cc: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 7:04 PM
Subject: RE: cheques
No problem, we'll get you covered. Consoles don't work with our program, we have to work harder than ever to turn a buck. They've always been against the program rules, but if a guy converted, we really didn't care.
So if you could take us off your consoles, I'd have Josh make sure you're paid. On the Ibill thing, did you email them? They issue the checks.
Regards,
Lens
Payment has not arrived. Date : 26th March 2001
I've been contacting you and your company re various payment issues since August 2001, and have received less than a 100% payment result over this period. You have the numbers, payment is due
and now is the time to finalise the outstanding payments.
Lensman wrote ..
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 7:04 PM
Subject: RE: cheques
Quote :
"No problem, we'll get you covered" "So if you could take us off your consoles, I'd have Josh make sure you're paid"
Lens
Note : the links were taken down, and payment has not arrived.
Re the exit consoles, Lensmans program (per click program) attempted to cut my payment for allegedly breaking the rules -- however, via e-mail we discussed that i have sent traffic from the last console program (exit consoles) over a long period of time to the program/s in question -- i stated that if they "now had a problem, they should have contacted me within a reasonable amount of time, not weeks/months after the fact responding only to my missing check enquiries. Lensman replied with the below e-mail (previous post) acknowledgeing our understanding. He expressed he wanted to dis-continue my exit console links (which i did), and promised "Josh would make sure I was paid (note : payment hasn't arrived, approx 2.5 months later)
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DEBT RECOVERY
When payment is due or promised in this industry; in most cases a 2 week waiting period is sufficient. If you have not received payment within this time, you must contact the person or company. If they do not offer a reasonable explanation and in a reasonable amount of time, you most likely have a problem. Be dilligent with your follow up process and allow for reasonable response times which will give you the best chance of collecting the money. If you leave it too long, often the "persons memory conveniently fades and they begin to blame hate or criticise you or your company, regardless of the factual evidence. This is their mental fuel to avoid payment and their moral obligation. People do this more so in this industry because re-course is difficult due to geographic circumstances.
Some people would rather keep debt recovery in-house, which may mean accepting the loss. This way they dont hang out their dirty laundry in public, which is good business practise. Sayings apply such as : "look at the big picture" and "dont sweat the small stuff". However, if you want a result, you have to do something about it. My experience has been that when all communication efforts have been exhausted, message boards are the next most effective way to recover your money.
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Note : I've contacted Lensman and Hoax notifieing them of the hahahahahahaha posts. Their e-mail responses to the missing check queries are taking far too long to reply; they've been vague and drawn out. Perhaps they prefer to deal publicly.
Rob Mac ::: AdultContent.co.uk - Great British Content
Wed Mar 26 02:43:24 2003 - 210.50.217.83 - message #211126
From: Lensman
To: Rob Mac
Cc: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 7:04 PM
Subject: RE: cheques
No problem, we'll get you covered. Consoles don't work with our program, we have to work harder than ever to turn a buck. They've always been against the program rules, but if a guy converted, we really didn't care.
So if you could take us off your consoles, I'd have Josh make sure you're paid. On the Ibill thing, did you email them? They issue the checks.
Regards,
Lens
Payment has not arrived. Date : 26th March 2001
I've been contacting you and your company re various payment issues since August 2001, and have received less than a 100% payment result over this period. You have the numbers, payment is due
and now is the time to finalise the outstanding payments.
Lensman wrote ..
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 7:04 PM
Subject: RE: cheques
Quote :
"No problem, we'll get you covered" "So if you could take us off your consoles, I'd have Josh make sure you're paid"
Lens
Note : the links were taken down, and payment has not arrived.
Re the exit consoles, Lensmans program (per click program) attempted to cut my payment for allegedly breaking the rules -- however, via e-mail we discussed that i have sent traffic from the last console program (exit consoles) over a long period of time to the program/s in question -- i stated that if they "now had a problem, they should have contacted me within a reasonable amount of time, not weeks/months after the fact responding only to my missing check enquiries. Lensman replied with the below e-mail (previous post) acknowledgeing our understanding. He expressed he wanted to dis-continue my exit console links (which i did), and promised "Josh would make sure I was paid (note : payment hasn't arrived, approx 2.5 months later)
............................
DEBT RECOVERY
When payment is due or promised in this industry; in most cases a 2 week waiting period is sufficient. If you have not received payment within this time, you must contact the person or company. If they do not offer a reasonable explanation and in a reasonable amount of time, you most likely have a problem. Be dilligent with your follow up process and allow for reasonable response times which will give you the best chance of collecting the money. If you leave it too long, often the "persons memory conveniently fades and they begin to blame hate or criticise you or your company, regardless of the factual evidence. This is their mental fuel to avoid payment and their moral obligation. People do this more so in this industry because re-course is difficult due to geographic circumstances.
Some people would rather keep debt recovery in-house, which may mean accepting the loss. This way they dont hang out their dirty laundry in public, which is good business practise. Sayings apply such as : "look at the big picture" and "dont sweat the small stuff". However, if you want a result, you have to do something about it. My experience has been that when all communication efforts have been exhausted, message boards are the next most effective way to recover your money.
............................
Note : I've contacted Lensman and Hoax notifieing them of the hahahahahahaha posts. Their e-mail responses to the missing check queries are taking far too long to reply; they've been vague and drawn out. Perhaps they prefer to deal publicly.
Rob Mac ::: AdultContent.co.uk - Great British Content
Wed Mar 26 02:43:24 2003 - 210.50.217.83 - message #211126
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