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  • Yo Adrian
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    • Apr 2002
    • 6326

    #1

    Saddam's Dead?

    In his speech last night he said nothing to establish time, mentioned nothing about recent attacks. Was it taped?
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  • Sly_RJ
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    • Feb 2002
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    #2
    Is the speech online anywhere? I'd like to check it out.
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    • Fletch XXX
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      • Jan 2002
      • 60840

      #3
      Originally posted by Yo Adrian
      In his speech last night he said nothing to establish time, mentioned nothing about recent attacks. Was it taped?
      yes he did.

      he specifically mentioned a town that was showing resitance yesterday, or something. But he DID mention a city we were encoutering yesterday or the previous hours before the reports.

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      • Martin
        "Assassins"
        • Dec 2001
        • 17274

        #4
        He's no longer in Iraq.. He's hiding out in a cave with Bin Laden..

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        • flashfreak
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          • Jun 2002
          • 4396

          #5
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          • rooster
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            • Jan 2003
            • 2384

            #6
            id say hes either dead or wounded. If he was alive he would have 1. done something to establish a time worthy event. shown a newspaper, anything to put to bed rumors that hes dead. 2. would not have passed up the opportunity to mention the pows and how they are mercenaries bla bla. 3. would have said how that suspected chemical factory is really an old folks home or something
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            • Turboface
              Back in Black
              • Mar 2002
              • 9976

              #7
              Originally posted by Fletch XXX


              yes he did.

              he specifically mentioned a town that was showing resitance yesterday, or something.

              He was vague in describing the U.S.-led military campaign aimed at toppling him from power and said nothing that would establish the precise time the tape was made. - MSNBC.
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              • Yo Adrian
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                • Apr 2002
                • 6326

                #8
                Originally posted by Sly_RJ
                Is the speech online anywhere? I'd like to check it out.
                There's a link to it here: http://edition.cnn.com/2003/US/03/24...nce/index.html
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                • Rip
                  Confirmed User
                  • Jan 2001
                  • 1456

                  #9
                  I would say that it was taped,

                  the big problem is, that if saddam is dead or incapacitated, the iraqi troops would probably fight much better than they would with him at the helm

                  ie; sane people listening better, fighting smarter

                  remember all the stupid mistakes that hitler made and how he wasted his troops, didn't listen to his generals, becuse he was such a nut case
                  ...

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                  • Giorgio_Xo
                    Confirmed User
                    • Mar 2003
                    • 4263

                    #10
                    It looks like it was pre-recorded before the war. Saddam extolls the virtues of the great bravery of the 51st Division. The 51st Division was the first Iraqi division to surrender in the war, some 2,000 troopers. They surrendered without firing a shot.

                    The video also had alot of jump edits. Frankly, he must have recorded a long speech then it was cut to order.
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                    • B40
                      Confirmed User
                      • Jul 2001
                      • 7020

                      #11
                      He mentioned Umm Qasar.

                      But it still could have been pretapped...

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                      • angeleyes
                        Confirmed User
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 3584

                        #12
                        Originally posted by B40
                        He mentioned Umm Qasar.

                        But it still could have been pretapped...
                        I agree... with all of his "press announcements" he could have easily pre-taped several versions citing different dates and or cities. There aren't that many "major" cities in Iraq, so it wouldn't be difficult to throw together a few versions and release the one that seems the most applicable due to the "current state of the war". Just my
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                        • Giorgio_Xo
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                          • Mar 2003
                          • 4263

                          #13
                          Umm Qasr is an important objective... that is a no brainer to call. Miss Chloe could have seen that town.
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                          • Fletch XXX
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                            • Jan 2002
                            • 60840

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Turboface



                            He was vague in describing the U.S.-led military campaign aimed at toppling him from power and said nothing that would establish the precise time the tape was made. - MSNBC.
                            what did you want a GMT timecode stamp?

                            he mentioned a city we were fucking with, meaning within the last couple days.

                            I didnt say they knew exactly when but he did give hint to an area we were engaging, a fairly current time marker.

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                            • hottoddy
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                              • Oct 2002
                              • 3049

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Giorgio_Xo
                              Umm Qasr is an important objective... that is a no brainer to call. Miss Chloe could have seen that town.
                              Exactly. In fact, the main road into Iraq goes right through that villiage. It doesn't take a genious to figure some fighting would occur there.

                              Plus, the video was edited. How many bad guesses were cut out?

                              Like the last war, Saddam was planning on going into bunker-hiding mode once things got started. So, he made a few tapes to keep up appearances in the days before.
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                              • angeleyes
                                Confirmed User
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 3584

                                #16
                                Originally posted by hottoddy


                                Exactly. In fact, the main road into Iraq goes right through that villiage. It doesn't take a genious to figure some fighting would occur there.

                                Plus, the video was edited. How many bad guesses were cut out?

                                Like the last war, Saddam was planning on going into bunker-hiding mode once things got started. So, he made a few tapes to keep up appearances in the days before.
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                                • PornDaddy
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Sep 2001
                                  • 354

                                  #17
                                  Sadam, at least one son, and Aziz are all dead.
                                  It obvious do to the fact none of them have
                                  spoke since the initial bombing.

                                  Showing videos does not make any sense.
                                  He has an ego larger than all of ours together.
                                  He would want no one to suspect otherwise.
                                  He would have made sure everyone knew he was alive.


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                                  • playa
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Feb 2001
                                    • 6432

                                    #18
                                    it had to be taped looking at the general attitude of him and his other staff

                                    they look way to happy

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                                    • KRL
                                      Entrepreneur
                                      • Oct 2002
                                      • 31429

                                      #19
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                                      • angeleyes
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                                        • Feb 2003
                                        • 3584

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by playa
                                        it had to be taped looking at the general attitude of him and his other staff

                                        they look way to happy
                                        ...yeah, laughing that the presidential palace head been blown to bits? He has other palaces, but that was his biggest and main one. I don't think he expected us to go in with the Stealth bomber and do the damage we did in one night.

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                                        • GotGauge
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                                          • Nov 2001
                                          • 3072

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Giorgio_Xo
                                          It looks like it was pre-recorded before the war. Saddam extolls the virtues of the great bravery of the 51st Division. The 51st Division was the first Iraqi division to surrender in the war, some 2,000 troopers. They surrendered without firing a shot.

                                          The video also had alot of jump edits. Frankly, he must have recorded a long speech then it was cut to order.
                                          He is dead or injured.
                                          ALL taped.


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                                          • hottoddy
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                                            • Oct 2002
                                            • 3049

                                            #22
                                            Another Memorex Moment:

                                            In the latest tape, Saddam praised a commander for fighting bravely. He was actually among the first to surrender at the beginning. D'OH !!

                                            http://www.msnbc.com/news/889289_asp.htm?0cv=CB10
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                                            • SpaceAce
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                                              • Jul 2002
                                              • 6493

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by hottoddy
                                              Another Memorex Moment:

                                              In the latest tape, Saddam praised a commander for fighting bravely. He was actually among the first to surrender at the beginning. D'OH !!

                                              http://www.msnbc.com/news/889289_asp.htm?0cv=CB10
                                              Hm, that is interesting. I hadn't read that article, before.

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                                              • MetaMan
                                                I AM WEB 2.0
                                                • Jan 2003
                                                • 28682

                                                #24
                                                he is still alive and will not flee the country.

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