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  • stanton
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    • Jun 2002
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    #1

    The United States expects Iraq to treat captured U.S. and allied troops humanely.....

    Prety ironic and sad

    Bush was the one who went against Geneve Convention and started the war, and now he tells Sadam to treat the captured ons according to Geneve convention...
  • juicylinks
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    • Apr 2001
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    #2
    How come I was never invited to this Geneva Convention party?

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    • directfiesta
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      • Oct 2002
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      #3
      Originally posted by juicylinks
      How come I was never invited to this Geneva Convention party?
      no pussy present ....
      I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

      But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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      • stocktrader23
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        #4
        Originally posted by stanton
        Prety ironic and sad

        Bush was the one who went against Geneve Convention and started the war, and now he tells Sadam to treat the captured ons according to Geneve convention...
        The ironic part is that they say he is agains the Geneva convention because they are interviewing them and it's embarassing. How is our reporters digging through Iraqi POWs belongings and shoving a camera in their face any different.


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        • Amputate Your Head
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          #5
          and why shouldn't we expect them to... we treat our POWs humanely.
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          • NineNine
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            • Sep 2002
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            #6
            I think it's funny... the US bombs and slaughters thousands, but gets upset if somebody shows a fucking picture of a dead American on TV. For christ's sake, it's war. The media SHOULD be showign pictures of dead people so every gung-ho fucknut out there understands that there are real people dying for no good reason.

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            • Amputate Your Head
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              #7
              Originally posted by NineNine
              I think it's funny... the US bombs and slaughters thousands, but gets upset if somebody shows a fucking picture of a dead American on TV. For christ's sake, it's war. The media SHOULD be showign pictures of dead people so every gung-ho fucknut out there understands that there are real people dying for no good reason.
              were you born stupid or did you have to work at it?
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              • JeremySF
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                #8
                Originally posted by NineNine
                I think it's funny... the US bombs and slaughters thousands, but gets upset if somebody shows a fucking picture of a dead American on TV. For christ's sake, it's war. The media SHOULD be showign pictures of dead people so every gung-ho fucknut out there understands that there are real people dying for no good reason.

                the reason it's inappropriate to show the dead americans on tv is that their family has yet to be notified. grow up! imagine if the first time you learned your significant other was killed was on Al Jazeera.
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                • xxxdesign-net
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                  • Nov 2002
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                  #9
                  conventions and rules for war?? haha

                  You attack criminal dictators that kill their own people but expect them to follow conventions and rules for war???

                  Rumsfeld makes me laugh....

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                  • PersianKitty
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                    • Jul 2001
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by stanton
                    Prety ironic and sad

                    Bush was the one who went against Geneve Convention and started the war, and now he tells Sadam to treat the captured ons according to Geneve convention...
                    uh..how is it against the Geneva Convention to start a war? The Geneva Convention deals with the treatment of prisoners of war and innocents in the middle of warring actions.

                    Need the full text??

                    http://193.194.138.190/html/menu3/b/91.htm

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                    • dav555add
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                      • Jun 2001
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by NineNine
                      I think it's funny... the US bombs and slaughters thousands, but gets upset if somebody shows a fucking picture of a dead American on TV. For christ's sake, it's war. The media SHOULD be showign pictures of dead people so every gung-ho fucknut out there understands that there are real people dying for no good reason.
                      directfiesta?
                      ...

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                      • xxxdesign-net
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                        • Nov 2002
                        • 10129

                        #12
                        Originally posted by JeremySF



                        the reason it's inappropriate to show the dead americans on tv is that their family has yet to be notified. grow up! imagine if the first time you learned your significant other was killed was on Al Jazeera.

                        huh... Al Jazeera is a middle east news station... NOt broadcasting in the united states...

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                        • HungSolo
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by stocktrader23


                          The ironic part is that they say he is agains the Geneva convention because they are interviewing them and it's embarassing. How is our reporters digging through Iraqi POWs belongings and shoving a camera in their face any different.
                          Every post you've made today has simply been a "Yeah down with the big bad evil America" type statement. Is that all you know how to do is to jump on the anti-war/anti america bandwagon?

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                          • HungSolo
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by NineNine
                            I think it's funny... the US bombs and slaughters thousands, but gets upset if somebody shows a fucking picture of a dead American on TV. For christ's sake, it's war. The media SHOULD be showign pictures of dead people so every gung-ho fucknut out there understands that there are real people dying for no good reason.
                            Slaughtered 1000's ???

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                            • mule
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
                              and why shouldn't we expect them to... we treat our POWs humanely.
                              Like in Guantanamo Bay?
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                              • xxxdesign-net
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by HungSolo


                                Every post you've made today has simply been a "Yeah down with the big bad evil America" type statement. Is that all you know how to do is to jump on the anti-war/anti america bandwagon?
                                WTF are you talking about... the guy is american...
                                There's a big difference with being anti-war or not approving some Bush decisions and being anti-American!!

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                                • HungSolo
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                                  • Dec 2002
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by xxxdesign-net


                                  WTF are you talking about... the guy is american...
                                  There's a bid difference with being anti-war or not approving some Bush decisions and being anti-American!!

                                  I know he's American. That doesn't change the fact that his posts today have been as I described.

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                                  • stanton
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                                    • Jun 2002
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                                    #18
                                    I am not Anti-American

                                    I am just saying that Bush does actions which are very irrational and then he wants others to play by the rules...

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                                    • JeremySF
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by xxxdesign-net



                                      huh... Al Jazeera is a middle east news station... NOt broadcasting in the united states...

                                      what are you talking about? I get it on Comcast here in California. j/k

                                      In all seriousness, they LICENSE their content elsewhere. I've seen Al Jazeera on many stations.
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                                      • JeremySF
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by mule

                                        Like in Guantanamo Bay?
                                        please explain exactly how they were treated inhumanely in Guantanamo. I guarantee you that my hell week for fraternity initiation was 100x worse than what they went through. They weren't tortured or beaten like I'm sure Iraq will do to our POWs.
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                                        • NineNine
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by HungSolo


                                          Slaughtered 1000's ???
                                          Uh yeah... what do you think has been going on in Iraq? Fireworks? It's insane. "We're allowed to kill thousands of your people, but please make sure that our guys who do the killing get a nice, hot meal." That's fucking insane.

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                                          • mule
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by JeremySF


                                            please explain exactly how they were treated inhumanely in Guantanamo.
                                            You don't read the news, or was it just censored in the States?


                                            I guarantee you that my hell week for fraternity initiation was 100x worse than what they went through.
                                            LOL, in my book putting up with that sort of medieval shit makes you an idiot


                                            They weren't tortured or beaten like I'm sure Iraq will do to our POWs.
                                            How the fuck can you just make assumptions like that?
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                                            • Amputate Your Head
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by mule


                                              How the fuck can you just make assumptions like that?
                                              Iraq's track record speaks for itself.
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                                              • stocktrader23
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by HungSolo


                                                Every post you've made today has simply been a "Yeah down with the big bad evil America" type statement. Is that all you know how to do is to jump on the anti-war/anti america bandwagon?
                                                How is that statement anti-war or anti-America? If anything it's anti-retardation. First of all Saddam thinks we are wrong for going to Iraq and blowing it to hell. Who is going to be suprised if he doesn't treat POW's correctly. Second, I said it's ironic that they are bitching about them interviewing our POW's because it's embarassing but they allow our reporters to rifle through their shit and stick a camera in the face of the ones that are obviously covering up so not to be seen. How is that statement anti-American or anti-war? Grow the fuck up.


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                                                • KC
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by stanton
                                                  Prety ironic and sad

                                                  Bush was the one who went against Geneve Convention and started the war, and now he tells Sadam to treat the captured ons according to Geneve convention...
                                                  Have you read the Geneva Convention?

                                                  Iraq and the US both signed the "Geneva Convention Relative to the Treatment of War", therefore it applies.

                                                  http://www.aiipowmia.com/legis/geneva1950.html

                                                  Article 2

                                                  In addition to the provisions which shall be implemented in peace time, the present Convention shall apply to all cases of declared war or of any other armed conflict which may arise between two or more of the High Contracting Parties, even if the state of war is not recognized by one of them.

                                                  The Convention shall also apply to all cases of partial or total occupation of the territory of a High Contracting Party, even if the said occupation meets with no armed resistance.

                                                  Although one of the Powers in conflict may not be a party to the present Convention, the Powers who are parties thereto shall remain bound by it in their mutual relations. They shall furthermore be bound by the Convention in relation to the said Power, if the latter accepts and applies the provisions thereof.

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                                                  • KC
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by stanton
                                                    Prety ironic and sad

                                                    Bush was the one who went against Geneve Convention and started the war, and now he tells Sadam to treat the captured ons according to Geneve convention...
                                                    Where in the Geneva Convention does it say a nation cannot start a war?

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                                                    • foreverjason
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                                                      #27
                                                      there is a party going on?

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                                                      • Trolleater
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by stanton
                                                        Prety ironic and sad

                                                        Bush was the one who went against Geneve Convention and started the war, and now he tells Sadam to treat the captured ons according to Geneve convention...


                                                        so you want them to be tortured to death?

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                                                        • CDSmith
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                                                          #29
                                                          Don't know if this was posted yet, but this is how Saddam's crew treats POW's.....

                                                          http://airspot.mediaorgy.com/aljazeera/ --- it's gruesome, so click at own risk.


                                                          The US coalition forces have been pretty lenient on the Iraqi soldiers so far, giving them every chance to surrender before either killing them or capturing them by force. I've seen where a bunch of Iraqi soldiers, like 700 of them or so, gave up peacefully and where told to just "go home". Now, WHEN in any war previous to this have you heard of this happening?


                                                          The US has been pretty lenient so far. I suspect that's about to change if it hasn't already. Haven't been in front of the tv in a few hours.
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                                                          • mule
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by CDSmith
                                                            Don't know if this was posted yet, but this is how Saddam's crew treats POW's.....
                                                            I think you have you POW and KIA mixed up
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                                                            • stanton
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                                                              • Jun 2002
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                                                              #31
                                                              I agree with you...but I dont think that people of Bagdad for example will feel feel that they were treated linear, by getting bomb with 1000 rockets..and trust me when us forces gonna enter the city..it is gonna get very ugly

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                                                              • Dveron
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                                                                #32
                                                                One of those captured was a woman..it sickens me to think what she mght be going through now
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                                                                • KC
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by mule

                                                                  I think you have you POW and KIA mixed up
                                                                  If a Prisoner is executed after they have surrendered and become a POW, they have violated the Geneva Convention. Did you see the pictures of the guy's face along with the pic of the guy on the ground with a bullethole in his head?

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                                                                  • mule
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by KC


                                                                    If a Prisoner is executed after they have surrendered and become a POW, they have violated the Geneva Convention. Did you see the pictures of the guy's face along with the pic of the guy on the ground with a bullethole in his head?
                                                                    Yes, I did
                                                                    and?
                                                                    I don't see anything in those pics to indicate that they were shot after surrendering, or am I missing something?
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                                                                    • KRL
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Dveron
                                                                      One of those captured was a woman..it sickens me to think what she mght be going through now
                                                                      Oh get over it. Why do you think we didn't want women in combat zones in the past. But noooooo, they have to have equal rights like men. So be it. This is what happens.

                                                                      She's gonna get gang raped by the towelheads and tortured.

                                                                      Its fucking war and war is ugly.

                                                                      Besides US soldiers raped and fucked vietnamese girls like crazy in Nam so we aren't angels either.

                                                                      Fuck now I'm sounding like the anti-american fucks in here. geeez . . .
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                                                                      • Gemini
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        Al Jazeera is available on most satellite programs.

                                                                        Guantamano has to better than a cave, no lice, no landmines, no one hunting them currently, 3 hot meals of THEIR own type, they get to do their prayers, medical, dental, they have it better than alot of the World does, other than being in a cell. :



                                                                        They wouldn't be IN that cell if they had the common sense that a sand flea has. Any one that thinks they have the right to kill just anyone they please for what amounts to a religious fervor should be locked up for good. We do it to our OWN folks too. Granted they have nothing to do with Iraq, but it still stands

                                                                        Iraq BROKE the cease fire... live with it. If everyone is so all fired uppset, why weren't you complaining to YOUR governments to make that ceasefire STAND and go on to be a total war is over agreement????? `YOU are as guilty for NOT doing anything as the UN is. So this blood of thousands of innocents as some of you keep insisting on is on YOUR heads as well.

                                                                        I don't see you crying about WW2 either, when bombing civilians was NORMAL for war. Oh yeah, that was when it was freeing many of the ones doing the crying.

                                                                        BTW, I'm against war usually. Its just a necessary evil sometimes. I-We realllly hoped it wouldn't happen, but it did. No going back now and all the whining in the World won't change that.
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                                                                        • KC
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by mule

                                                                          Yes, I did
                                                                          and?
                                                                          I don't see anything in those pics to indicate that they were shot after surrendering, or am I missing something?
                                                                          One of them that's pictured alive is also pictured with a bullet hole. Go back and look closely, it's the same guy.

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                                                                          • KRL
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by mule

                                                                            Yes, I did
                                                                            and?
                                                                            I don't see anything in those pics to indicate that they were shot after surrendering, or am I missing something?
                                                                            Oh come on man. They all had bullit holes right in the head. They were fucking executed.

                                                                            Saddam is paying $14,000 for dead ones and $28,000 for live ones. So they make bucks either way.
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                                                                            • DJRCyberAVS
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              I don't see anything in those pics to indicate that they were shot after surrendering, or am I missing something?
                                                                              Think he's saying that a clean middle of the fore-head shot is hard to get when you're wearing a kevlar helmet, and in the heat of the battle.

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                                                                              • Libertine
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                The Geneva convention is a very odd concept.
                                                                                "Sure, go ahead and kill thousands, millions if necessary - just make sure you do it in a nice way."
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                                                                                • mule
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by KRL


                                                                                  Oh come on man. They all had bullit holes right in the head. They were fucking executed.

                                                                                  Saddam is paying $14,000 for dead ones and $28,000 for live ones. So they make bucks either way.
                                                                                  LOL, I guess Saddam should tell all his troops NOT to aim for the head, in case people will think they were executed.
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                                                                                  • eroswebmaster
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by mule

                                                                                    LOL, I guess Saddam should tell all his troops NOT to aim for the head, in case people will think they were executed.
                                                                                    You're an idiot
                                                                                    Please tell me you don't really believe that the Iraqis were all able to score a headshot during a firefight with these guys...one almost right between the eyes another in the right temple.
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                                                                                    • mule
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by eroswebmaster


                                                                                      Please tell me you don't really believe that the Iraqis were all able to score a headshot during a firefight with these guys...one almost right between the eyes another in the right temple.
                                                                                      Why ever not?
                                                                                      I'm not saying that I either believe or disbelieve that they were executed, I wouldn't be surprised either way, but those pics prove absolutely nothing.
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                                                                                      • directfiesta
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by KRL




                                                                                        Saddam is paying $14,000 for dead ones and $28,000 for live ones. So they make bucks either way.
                                                                                        Iraquis can count....:

                                                                                        1 alive = 2 deads


                                                                                        Better 2 alive!!!
                                                                                        I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                                                                                        But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                                                                                        • playa
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          YES there are rules to fighting a War, believe it or not

                                                                                          in WAR there is a BIG difference between

                                                                                          KILLING
                                                                                          MURDER
                                                                                          Collateral Damage

                                                                                          I hope someone learns from this,

                                                                                          you don't think a US soldier could get the death penalty for shooting a POW without following the RULES OF ENGAGEMENT


                                                                                          Please do some research about what the heck the Geneva Convention is before starting posts. there is no Irony you talking apples and oranges

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                                                                                          • directfiesta
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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by Gemini


                                                                                            Iraq BROKE the cease fire... live with it.


                                                                                            Fuck ! They bombed their own city first!!! I knew it....

                                                                                            I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                                                                                            But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                                                                                            • eroswebmaster
                                                                                              March 1st, 2003
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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by mule

                                                                                              Why ever not?
                                                                                              I'm not saying that I either believe or disbelieve that they were executed, I wouldn't be surprised either way, but those pics prove absolutely nothing.
                                                                                              Because if you understood how inaccurate that even trained weapons users can be during fire fights then you'd realise this is statistically impossible.
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                                                                                              • mule
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                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by eroswebmaster


                                                                                                Because if you understood how inaccurate that even trained weapons users can be during fire fights then you'd realise this is statistically impossible.
                                                                                                I've been in a war
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                                                                                                • eroswebmaster
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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by mule

                                                                                                  I've been in a war
                                                                                                  Okay whatever Sgt. York...just argue to be satisfying some self serving need.
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                                                                                                  • ServerGenius
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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by playa
                                                                                                    YES there are rules to fighting a War, believe it or not

                                                                                                    in WAR there is a BIG difference between

                                                                                                    KILLING
                                                                                                    MURDER
                                                                                                    Collateral Damage

                                                                                                    I hope someone learns from this,

                                                                                                    you don't think a US soldier could get the death penalty for shooting a POW without following the RULES OF ENGAGEMENT


                                                                                                    Please do some research about what the heck the Geneva Convention is before starting posts. there is no Irony you talking apples and oranges
                                                                                                    No one really sticks to these rules though. They are more for after
                                                                                                    the war to make up the balance and then they try to prosecute
                                                                                                    war criminals. If everybody would stick to rules then there would
                                                                                                    not be a reason to go to war.

                                                                                                    b.t.w. The US went to war without consent of the UN. That is a
                                                                                                    violation of a rule aswell.....so not much use pointing a finger.

                                                                                                    DynaMite
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