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03-19-2003, 10:30 AM

Remember Reagan:

Mr. Gorbachev, bring down this wall"

Do you think Bush will say:

"Mr. Sharon, do not construct this wall"

Sharon accused of turning territories into huge prison

Chris McGreal in Jerusalem
Tuesday March 18, 2003
The Guardian

Ariel Sharon has told his cabinet that he plans to extend the "security fence" Israel is building along the length of the West Bank so that it entirely encircles any Palestinian state.
The revelation, which follows the Israeli government's decision to oppose full independence for Palestine in favour of a state with "certain attributes of sovereignty", immediately drew fire from the Palestinians who accused the Israeli prime minister of trying to turn the occupied territories into a huge prison.

Meanwhile, the Israeli army killed 10 Palestinians, including a four-year-old girl, in a raid on a Gaza refugee camp yesterday.

Hanan Ansar and two teenagers were among those killed as tanks and helicopters led an assault on Nusseirat camp in search of wanted Palestinians and to destroy the homes of "terrorists".

Mr Sharon dropped what is being called a political bombshell on Sunday while taking his cabinet on a secret tour of the fence, which is a six-metre (20ft) wall topped with barbed wire and lined with guard towers in many places.

The 230-mile wall and fence already under construction will extend the length of the West Bank, creeping deep inside Palestinian territory for long stretches. It will almost surround at least one, and probably two, cities.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Sto...916222,00.html

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The arabs are responsible, they are the cancer of this planet.

There is only one solution to avoid or to have avoided this kind of terrorist attack;
Deport all arabs, forbid entry in the US of all arabs.
But obviously no President will have the balls to take such a drastic measure...

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03-19-2003, 10:39 AM

Its called a border, most countries have them..
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03-19-2003, 10:39 AM

I actually think this is a good idea, both sides hate each other and need to be seperated.

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03-19-2003, 10:51 AM

Gee, let's say Canada had a problem with suicide bombers from Alaska killing women and children, and a regular border did nothing to prevent the influx. What would you do?

I know what I would do. Keep them out!

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03-19-2003, 10:55 AM

Originally posted by Mark
Its called a border, most countries have them..

So then, why was it wrong in Berlin???

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03-19-2003, 10:56 AM

Originally posted by directfiesta

So then, why was it wrong in Berlin???

did you really ask this question?
do you really need it spoon fed to you?

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03-19-2003, 10:57 AM

Originally posted by 12clicks

did you really ask this question?
do you really need it spoon fed to you?

If you can't answer, just shut up

or put up!

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03-19-2003, 11:02 AM

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03-19-2003, 11:02 AM

Originally posted by directfiesta

So then, why was it wrong in Berlin???

Because the East Germans and West Germans wanted to be united again. Plus they weren't killing each other every chance they got.

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03-19-2003, 11:03 AM

Originally posted by directfiesta

So then, why was it wrong in Berlin???

Well you could start with this..

Israel - WALL - Palestine

Germany - WALL - Germany
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03-19-2003, 11:05 AM

Originally posted by Mark

Well you could start with this..

Israel - WALL - Palestine

Germany - WALL - Germany

or:

West Gernany - Wall - East Germany

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03-19-2003, 11:05 AM

Originally posted by directfiesta
Remember Reagan:

Mr. Gorbachev, bring down this wall"

Do you think Bush will say:

"Mr. Sharon, do not construct this wall"

Sharon accused of turning territories into huge prison

Chris McGreal in Jerusalem
Tuesday March 18, 2003
The Guardian

Ariel Sharon has told his cabinet that he plans to extend the "security fence" Israel is building along the length of the West Bank so that it entirely encircles any Palestinian state.
The revelation, which follows the Israeli government's decision to oppose full independence for Palestine in favour of a state with "certain attributes of sovereignty", immediately drew fire from the Palestinians who accused the Israeli prime minister of trying to turn the occupied territories into a huge prison.

Meanwhile, the Israeli army killed 10 Palestinians, including a four-year-old girl, in a raid on a Gaza refugee camp yesterday.

Hanan Ansar and two teenagers were among those killed as tanks and helicopters led an assault on Nusseirat camp in search of wanted Palestinians and to destroy the homes of "terrorists".

Mr Sharon dropped what is being called a political bombshell on Sunday while taking his cabinet on a secret tour of the fence, which is a six-metre (20ft) wall topped with barbed wire and lined with guard towers in many places.

The 230-mile wall and fence already under construction will extend the length of the West Bank, creeping deep inside Palestinian territory for long stretches. It will almost surround at least one, and probably two, cities.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Sto...916222,00.html

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The arabs are responsible, they are the cancer of this planet.

There is only one solution to avoid or to have avoided this kind of terrorist attack;
Deport all arabs, forbid entry in the US of all arabs.
But obviously no President will have the balls to take such a drastic measure...

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03-19-2003, 11:08 AM

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FREE THE IROQUOIS INDIANS FROM THE QUEBECOIS OPRRESION

You don't understand Quebec politics. Its ok for Quebeckers to want a referrendum to seperate from Canada. Its not ok to suggest that the first nations could hold a refferendum to seperate from Quebec. The natives must be taught French!

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03-19-2003, 11:11 AM

Originally posted by JeremySF
let's say Canada had a problem with suicide bombers from Alaska killing women and children

This hypothetical cracks me up.

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03-19-2003, 11:12 AM

That's a great idea! Just put a wall around the Palestinians, and the killing will finally stop!
Better yet, why not put them in camps? Some watchtowers, german shepherds, barbed wire... done! I see us coming closer to the endlosung of the problem every day

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03-19-2003, 11:13 AM

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That's a great idea! Just put a wall around the Palestinians, and the killing will finally stop!
Better yet, why not put them in camps? Some watchtowers, german shepherds, barbed wire... done! I see us coming closer to the endlosung of the problem every day

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03-19-2003, 11:15 AM

Originally posted by directfiesta

or:

West Gernany - Wall - East Germany

No shit, I've seen the light! There I was thinking that they were the same country when all the time they were two entirely unrelated countries as can be clearly seen by the 'east' & 'west' bit in front..
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03-19-2003, 11:15 AM

Originally posted by punkworld
That's a great idea! Just put a wall around the Palestinians, and the killing will finally stop!
Better yet, why not put them in camps? Some watchtowers, german shepherds, barbed wire... done! I see us coming closer to the endlosung of the problem every day

I think they should all sit around a camp fire, roasting hot dogs, listening to the ball game on the AM radio, and smoke a few fine cigars. They'll solve all their problems in one night. Ahh... the power of nature!

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03-19-2003, 11:16 AM

Originally posted by gripcash

This hypothetical cracks me up.

You have to put things in a context that people understand. One shouldn't have to resort to the hypothetical. It should be apparent why there is nothing wrong with Israel erecting a wall for security. They Wall in Germany was not erected to guard against terrorism. It was to guard against the influence of the West. Why Israel can't take measures to defend herself is beyond me.

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03-19-2003, 11:18 AM

Originally posted by dav555add

You're a fucken nazi punk.

And you're not the sharpest tool in the shed.

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03-19-2003, 11:19 AM

Originally posted by dav555add

You're a fucken nazi punk.

No fucking way I give up my hard earn NAZI calling...

I think I will become the " soup nazi"

And Punkworld, if they want to protect so much, why don't they build the wall around Israel.... Theyre are arabs all around anyway....

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The arabs are responsible, they are the cancer of this planet.

There is only one solution to avoid or to have avoided this kind of terrorist attack;
Deport all arabs, forbid entry in the US of all arabs.
But obviously no President will have the balls to take such a drastic measure...

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03-19-2003, 11:20 AM

Originally posted by punkworld

And you're not the sharpest tool in the shed.

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03-19-2003, 11:23 AM

Originally posted by directfiesta
And Punkworld, if they want to protect so much, why don't they build the wall around Israel.... Theyre are arabs all around anyway....

You build a wall where the danger is. Most of the suicide bombers have come from the occupied territories. Sure infiltrators have come from Lebanon, but there already are fences there.

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03-19-2003, 11:23 AM

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No shit, I've seen the light! There I was thinking that they were the same country when all the time they were two entirely unrelated countries as can be clearly seen by the 'east' & 'west' bit in front..

Youre right even if you don't know. I was in Berlin in 1988 . :

- Different flags
- different passports
- different currency
- different parlement

- same language
- same ethnie

It was 2 countries ...

Oh, by the way, a few other examples:

- North/south Korea
- North / South Vietnam
- UK / Ireland

Continue beleieving and rewriting history y .... apply in Hollywood, they will emply you in the sci-fi dept.

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03-19-2003, 11:24 AM

Originally posted by dav555add

Don't push me or I'll add you to my sig

I have no reply for such childish nonsense. You really should try to finish high school before entering the adult industry.

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03-19-2003, 11:24 AM

build a big giant wall around them, then fill it with water.

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03-19-2003, 11:24 AM

Originally posted by JeremySF
Why Israel can't take measures to defend herself is beyond me.

I hate to get involved in these political debates, but I can't resist. What we're talking about is Israel's right to defend itself from a foreign nation that it currently occupies, one without any army, whose people are being killed by Israeli soldiers and have been for years on a daily basis.

I don't support terrorism of any sort. Including the kind that comes by way of bombs from above, blackhawk helicopters, bulldozers, or the like.

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03-19-2003, 11:27 AM

Originally posted by directfiesta

And Punkworld, if they want to protect so much, why don't they build the wall around Israel.... Theyre are arabs all around anyway....

When people use the word "endlosung" in combination with a they are usually being sarcastic.

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03-19-2003, 11:27 AM

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Most of the suicide bombers have come from the occupied territories.

Maybe if somebody would try to work on the " occupied" it could help ease the problem....

Nah, Better a fence and yes. barb wires:

"which is a six-metre (20ft) wall topped with barbed wire and lined with guard towers in many places. "

At least, I know it will be well built. Jews have experience in walls with barb wires .... Just now have to work on how to eradicate the vermine....

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03-19-2003, 11:28 AM

Originally posted by punkworld

I have no reply for such childish nonsense. You really should try to finish high school before entering the adult industry.

Fuck OFF!!!
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03-19-2003, 11:28 AM

Originally posted by directfiesta

Youre right even if you don't know. I was in Berlin in 1988 . :

- Different flags
- different passports
- different currency
- different parlement

- same language
- same ethnie

It was 2 countries ...

Oh, by the way, a few other examples:

- North/south Korea
- North / South Vietnam
- UK / Ireland

Continue beleieving and rewriting history y .... apply in Hollywood, they will emply you in the sci-fi dept.

Oh I was gonna try and explain a few historical facts to you but I can't be bothered so this will have to do..
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03-19-2003, 11:29 AM

Originally posted by dav555add

You're a fucken nazi punk.

Palestinians kill Israeli civilians = terrorism. Israel kills Palestinian civilians = self defense

Does the fact the zionist hypocrisy no longer goes unchallenged upset you?

Here's to learning the hard way
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03-19-2003, 11:30 AM

Originally posted by dav555add

Fuck OFF!!!
You have no idea what you're talking about, so shut the fuck up.

I repeat, go finish high school first.

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03-19-2003, 11:31 AM

Originally posted by directfiesta

So then, why was it wrong in Berlin???

The Israeli wall is to keep Palestinians out. The Berlin wall was to keep East Germans in.

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03-19-2003, 11:32 AM

Originally posted by directfiesta
Oh, by the way, a few other examples:

- North/south Korea
- North / South Vietnam
- UK / Ireland

North / South Korea - Give it a few years. If it wasn't for the North's cult of personality (Dear Leader and Great Leader) the two countries would reunify.

North / South Vietnam - Uh, they don't exist any more. Just one country, Vietnam.

UK / Ireland - The only example that's at all similar to Isreal/Occupied territories. Here again a wall is a good idea. It keeps the Oranges and the Greens seperate.

You also forgot about China / Taiwan. One country two governments.

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03-19-2003, 11:32 AM

Originally posted by Gutterboy

Palestinians kill Israeli civilians = terrorism. Israel kills Palestinian civilians = self defense

Does the fact the zionist hypocrisy no longer goes unchallenged upset you?

Here's to learning the hard way

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03-19-2003, 11:34 AM

Originally posted by directfiesta

If you can't answer, just shut up

or put up!

wow, you really *don't* know the answer.

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03-19-2003, 11:34 AM

LOL

One wall is being erected to keep people strapped with bombs from running in and blowing up buses.

The other wall was erected to keep it's own citizens in so they couldn't leave the country because it wasn't allowed.

There's clearly no difference. lol

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03-19-2003, 11:34 AM

Originally posted by NetRodent

North / South Korea - Give it a few years. If it wasn't for the North's cult of personality (Dear Leader and Great Leader) the two countries would reunify.

North / South Vietnam - Uh, they don't exist any more. Just one country, Vietnam.

UK / Ireland - The only example that's at all similar to Isreal/Occupied territories. Here again a wall is a good idea. It keeps the Oranges and the Greens seperate.

You also forgot about China / Taiwan. One country two governments.

Didn't really forget, there are too many:

Basque / spain
and so on....

I didn't even think of African countries....

The point was just that A wall is not OK in Berlin ( and it was about 8-10 feet high ) but OK around Palestine ( 20 feet high).

I think it is just biased....

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03-19-2003, 11:35 AM

Originally posted by FATPad
LOL

One wall is being erected to keep people strapped with bombs from running in and blowing up buses.

The other wall was erected to keep it's own citizens in so they couldn't leave the country because it wasn't allowed.

There's clearly no difference. lol

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03-19-2003, 11:36 AM

Originally posted by 12clicks

wow, you really *don't* know the answer.

Obviously, YOU don't

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03-19-2003, 11:37 AM

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03-19-2003, 11:37 AM

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wow, you really *don't* know the answer.

Didn't HE ask YOU a question??

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03-19-2003, 11:37 AM

Originally posted by Gutterboy

Palestinians kill Israeli civilians = terrorism. Israel kills Palestinian civilians = self defense

Does the fact the zionist hypocrisy no longer goes unchallenged upset you?

No, your inability to understand the difference upsets me.

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03-19-2003, 11:37 AM

Originally posted by directfiesta

Didn't really forget, there are too many:

Basque / spain
and so on....

I didn't even think of African countries....

The point was just that A wall is not OK in Berlin ( and it was about 8-10 feet high ) but OK around Palestine ( 20 feet high).

I think it is just biased....

The wall issue has already been explained to you. One wall=keep people out. One wall=keep people in.

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03-19-2003, 11:38 AM

Originally posted by Gutterboy

Palestinians kill Israeli civilians = terrorism. Israel kills Palestinian civilians = self defense

Does the fact the zionist hypocrisy no longer goes unchallenged upset you?

Here's to learning the hard way

The main difference here is really in intent. Palestinian suicide bombers target civilian populations for the sake of causing terror. The Isreali army is very high profile, if they wanted to attack it they could. The Palestinian militia on the other hand hides among the Palestian civilian population. Most Palestinian casualties are caused by Isreali attempts to capture of kill various militia groups.

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03-19-2003, 11:39 AM

Originally posted by theking

The wall issue has already been explained to you. One wall=keep people out. One wall=keep people in.

So the wall around the Palestinians isn't meant to keep them in the areas the Israeli's decided for them to live in?

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Does the fact the zionist hypocrisy no longer goes unchallenged upset you?

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03-19-2003, 11:40 AM

Originally posted by theking

The wall issue has already been explained to you. One wall=keep people out. One wall=keep people in.

So, it's like a prison .... keep people in ... and Israeli's will go in at they seem fit, like prison gards....

Now I get it!

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03-19-2003, 11:40 AM

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Palestinian's act, Israeli's react. There lies the difference.

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