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  • Pipecrew
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    • Feb 2002
    • 14888
    #1

    Fish Tank Owners

    Possible Stupid Question, I am not sure...


    But I am about to be at a new place, leaving the old roomates behind, I want to buy a nice big saltwater tank, Think it would be possible to put it on this thing? or should I buy a stand and put it somewhere else. Its a gas fireplace underneath, it doesnt radiate heat above, but around..... Any help would be great, I started looking around



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    • digifan
      The Profiler
      • Oct 2002
      • 14618
      #2
      For God's sake, buy a stand, can't be too expensive?!
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        • LadyMischief
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          • Sep 2002
          • 18135
          #3
          Salt water tanks are expensive and finicky, but saltwater fish are the most beautiful by far. You have to be prepared for the expense, and might want to consider a service to monitor your water unless you plan on being almost obsessive about checking it (or you will spend an arm and a leg on fish). I would most definitely NOT put the tank on that fireplace though.. put it on a seperate stand... even a few degrees fluctuation in the tank and you can loose fish.. if you have anything nearby radiating heat and kabloie you have dead fish... Buy a seperate stand..that's my two cents.. I used to breed a ton of different fish, but I refused to do the salt water thing because of how finicky and expensive it is. Redbelly Pirhanas and Firemouth Cichlids were exotic enough for me

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            • wouncie
              Confirmed User
              • Apr 2002
              • 1005
              #4
              Doesnt look too dangerous, but im not sure i would do it pimp

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                • Pipecrew
                  Master of Gfy.com
                  • Feb 2002
                  • 14888
                  #5
                  Originally posted by LadyMischief
                  Salt water tanks are expensive and finicky, but saltwater fish are the most beautiful by far. You have to be prepared for the expense, and might want to consider a service to monitor your water unless you plan on being almost obsessive about checking it (or you will spend an arm and a leg on fish). I would most definitely NOT put the tank on that fireplace though.. put it on a seperate stand... even a few degrees fluctuation in the tank and you can loose fish.. if you have anything nearby radiating heat and kabloie you have dead fish... Buy a seperate stand..that's my two cents.. I used to breed a ton of different fish, but I refused to do the salt water thing because of how finicky and expensive it is. Redbelly Pirhanas and Firemouth Cichlids were exotic enough for me
                  Sweet! good info..... I figure i wont use that thing ever, so I might as well use it for somethng, but a stand is fine too!

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                    • Pipecrew
                      Master of Gfy.com
                      • Feb 2002
                      • 14888
                      #6
                      Originally posted by wouncie
                      Doesnt look too dangerous, but im not sure i would do it pimp
                      Hey post that pic of you on your tank, i wanna show a friend, that thing is insane

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                        • wouncie
                          Confirmed User
                          • Apr 2002
                          • 1005
                          #7
                          Originally posted by LadyMischief
                          Salt water tanks are expensive and finicky, but saltwater fish are the most beautiful by far. You have to be prepared for the expense, and might want to consider a service to monitor your water unless you plan on being almost obsessive about checking it (or you will spend an arm and a leg on fish). I would most definitely NOT put the tank on that fireplace though.. put it on a seperate stand... even a few degrees fluctuation in the tank and you can loose fish.. if you have anything nearby radiating heat and kabloie you have dead fish... Buy a seperate stand..that's my two cents.. I used to breed a ton of different fish, but I refused to do the salt water thing because of how finicky and expensive it is. Redbelly Pirhanas and Firemouth Cichlids were exotic enough for me
                          Dont leave out "Snake Heads"

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                            • Alvaro
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                              • Nov 2001
                              • 695
                              #8
                              so, witch cam did you get?

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                                • wouncie
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Apr 2002
                                  • 1005
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by Pipecrew

                                  Hey post that pic of you on your tank, i wanna show a friend, that thing is insane
                                  300 Gallons- Fresh Water in the picture with Pacu and Snake Heads, but It will soon be saltwater.
                                  Pics coming soon

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                                    • Pipecrew
                                      Master of Gfy.com
                                      • Feb 2002
                                      • 14888
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by Alvaro
                                      so, witch cam did you get?
                                      Some sony one from ebay, its great for what I use it for

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                                        • Kanoealoha
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Jul 2002
                                          • 1261
                                          #11
                                          I would assume that a thermometer would pick up the flucuation(sp) in the temp...when the fireplace is on...well actually, just keep it off...hehe or you could watch the fish boil
                                          The fireplace as a stand depends on if it has a board running through it...or is it just the tabletop hollow and then glass...
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                                          l l or a think layer and then the glass?

                                          hehe last thing you need is to hear the tank crashing in the middle of the night...oh and get someone to monitor it for you...
                                          its just easier that way
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                                            • nofx
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                                              • Nov 2002
                                              • 16826
                                              #12
                                              so your going to put a fish tank on top of the fireplace?.....doesnt sound like a good idea...

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                                                • Pipecrew
                                                  Master of Gfy.com
                                                  • Feb 2002
                                                  • 14888
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by nofx
                                                  so your going to put a fish tank on top of the fireplace?.....doesnt sound like a good idea...
                                                  I never claimed to be brilliant! I figured it was insulated enough to not transfer heat, but oh well, I will just go with the stand

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                                                    • Lane
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                                                      • Apr 2001
                                                      • 8496
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by wouncie

                                                      300 Gallons- Fresh Water in the picture with Pacu and Snake Heads, but It will soon be saltwater.
                                                      Pics coming soon
                                                      whoa, nice one

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                                                        • nofx
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                                                          • Nov 2002
                                                          • 16826
                                                          #15


                                                          why the fuck do you guys have bandanas around your faces, they make you look like retards, your not gangsters or terrorists.


                                                          lame

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                                                          When sickness comes I must decide:
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                                                            • snowpimp
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                                                              • Feb 2002
                                                              • 1099
                                                              #16
                                                              As long as it can hold the weight, I wouldn't worry about the temp too much. If you can't feel the heat with your hand than you really shouldn't worry. You could always set it up with water and a heater/therm for a week and see how it goes with a few gold fish.
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                                                                • X37375787
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Fuck you and your 300+ gallon tanks. I'm getting myself one of those puppies....


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                                                                    • X37375787
                                                                      #18
                                                                      even has a fish food dispenser.

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                                                                        • Sterling
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                                                                          • Feb 2003
                                                                          • 38
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by snowpimp
                                                                          As long as it can hold the weight, I wouldn't worry about the temp too much. If you can't feel the heat with your hand than you really shouldn't worry. You could always set it up with water and a heater/therm for a week and see how it goes with a few gold fish.
                                                                          Your "average" aquarium will weigh 10 pounds per gallon. A fresh water tank will take about a month to cycle before the amonia cycle is complete so you could expect to lose a few fish due to that alone.
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                                                                            • B40
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                                                                              • Jul 2001
                                                                              • 7020
                                                                              #20
                                                                              From what I know, saltwater tanks require a lot more $ and time. Have to have the right temp, which is not that hard, but the right ph levels as well.

                                                                              Also, the fish, coral etc. are a lot more expensive...

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                                                                                • bhutocracy
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                                                                                  • Dec 2001
                                                                                  • 10218
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by B40
                                                                                  From what I know, saltwater tanks require a lot more $ and time. Have to have the right temp, which is not that hard, but the right ph levels as well.

                                                                                  Also, the fish, coral etc. are a lot more expensive...
                                                                                  but the fish are ten times nicer.
                                                                                  I used to dropnet.

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                                                                                    • Pipecrew
                                                                                      Master of Gfy.com
                                                                                      • Feb 2002
                                                                                      • 14888
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by nofx


                                                                                      why the fuck do you guys have bandanas around your faces, they make you look like retards, your not gangsters or terrorists.


                                                                                      Have some more hatorade...... You think he's lame cause he's L.O.A.D.E.D

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                                                                                        • B40
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Jul 2001
                                                                                          • 7020
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by bhutocracy


                                                                                          but the fish are ten times nicer.
                                                                                          I used to dropnet.
                                                                                          Exactly, if you got the time, go for it...

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                                                                                            • B40
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Jul 2001
                                                                                              • 7020
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Pipecrew, another option is those arogana's or whatever they're called...the fish eating fish...

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                                                                                                • iroc409
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Jan 2003
                                                                                                  • 4728
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  i love saltwater fishes, they're sooo damn cool. i wanna get me a big tank someday.

                                                                                                  yes, they can be expensive, but the fish are cooler. i'd say *mostly* the fish are the expensive part. i want to start a tank with 2 trigger fishes (a niger and a picasso), a sailfin zebra tang, and a lionfish. kinda hostile

                                                                                                  andways.

                                                                                                  Pipecrew,

                                                                                                  yeah, get an enclosed stand for your tank, you'll be better off. besides, it makes a good place to put a lot of equipment. i'd get a canister filter like a fluval or something, and those have to go somewhere.

                                                                                                  have you ever done saltwater? just curious. if you don't have any saltwater tanks, you really might want to start a small tank (20-40gal), and use it later as a quarantine. i know too many people that don't do that, and it can lead to problems
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                                                                                                    • aflex
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                                                                                                      • Oct 2002
                                                                                                      • 3127
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      a friend thats a fish guru wants to try his first salt water project with a 5gallon eclipse tank, with live rock and sand with 2 clown fish.. should be cool because its for his computer desk
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                                                                                                        • PersianKitty
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                                                                                                          • Jul 2001
                                                                                                          • 7785
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by iroc409
                                                                                                          i love saltwater fishes, they're sooo damn cool. i wanna get me a big tank someday.

                                                                                                          yes, they can be expensive, but the fish are cooler. i'd say *mostly* the fish are the expensive part. i want to start a tank with 2 trigger fishes (a niger and a picasso), a sailfin zebra tang, and a lionfish. kinda hostile
                                                                                                          I like the triggers too. I've had a picasso, a couple of different nigers (they end up redecorating the tank and scratching the sides cause their teeth tend to grow outward), a clown that grew huge, yaddah yaddah.. Got a new trigger a few weeks ago. It's a sailfin look like the nigers but it's a blue front (belly is blue, body light grey and tail is yellowish). Pink tail triggers are kewl too. They have the sailfin look and they tend to grow rather large.

                                                                                                          I had a voltan lionfish for a while. As long as you it when it's smallish and the other fish in the tank are larger than his mouth, he'll do okay. Mine never bothered any of the others, although my stars and stripes puffer just had to learn his lesson with those spiny needles. The lions learn to eat non-live food very easily (krill and the like).
                                                                                                          Last edited by PersianKitty; 03-18-2003, 10:02 PM.

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                                                                                                                • Ray@TastyDollars
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                                                                                                                  • May 2002
                                                                                                                  • 6797
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Water weighs 10 pounds per gallon. Do the math, calculate the weight of the water, gravle, empty tank and determin from there.

                                                                                                                  I have a 90 gallon and it weighs more than 1000pounds, there is a 4 inch Jaubert Gravel System.

                                                                                                                  good luck,
                                                                                                                  Ray

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                                                                                                                    • iroc409
                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                      • Jan 2003
                                                                                                                      • 4728
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by PersianKitty


                                                                                                                      I like the triggers too. I've had a picasso, a couple of different nigers (they end up redecorating the tank and scratching the sides cause their teeth tend to grow outward), a clown that grew huge, yaddah yaddah.. Got a new trigger a few weeks ago. It's a sailfin look like the nigers but it's a blue front (belly is blue, body light grey and tail is yellowish). Pink tail triggers are kewl too. They have the sailfin look and they tend to grow rather large.

                                                                                                                      I had a voltan lionfish for a while. As long as you it when it's smallish and the other fish in the tank are larger than his mouth, he'll do okay. Mine never bothered any of the others, although my stars and stripes puffer just had to learn his lesson with those spiny needles. The lions learn to eat non-live food very easily (krill and the like).
                                                                                                                      i like puffers, but they wouldn't survive in the tank i want to set up. might save that for another day, a tank with a couple puffers, a maroon yellow-stripe clown, and like a batfish. those things r0x0rz.

                                                                                                                      the lionfish, triggers and tangs are too aggressive thought about maybe getting a clown trigger, but those guys are usually pretty expensive for some reason.

                                                                                                                      thought about maybe putting a snowflake eel in with them, but i've heard you have to hand-feed them sometimes, and that might suck.
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                                                                                                                        • Ray@TastyDollars
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                                                                                                                          • May 2002
                                                                                                                          • 6797
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by iroc409


                                                                                                                          thought about maybe putting a snowflake eel in with them, but i've heard you have to hand-feed them sometimes, and that might suck.
                                                                                                                          I used to have one, used to feed it with a 12 inch stick(claw) the fucker still bit me. Oh, and I had one crawl out the the tank one night, found it dead about 100 feet away.

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                                                                                                                            • Dj Furious
                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                              • Jan 2003
                                                                                                                              • 505
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              My buddy in coquitlam's got some pirahnas... fuckin wicked

                                                                                                                              too cool watching feeding time, with a big feeder fish!
                                                                                                                              they rip the fucker in two!!

                                                                                                                              ugly fish tho...
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                                                                                                                                • BrettJ
                                                                                                                                  ol' timer
                                                                                                                                  • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                                  • 4715
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  I have one piranah. red belly. easy to care for. drop in gold fish - and watch the carnage.

                                                                                                                                  It's cool to see him bite them in half - little mouth still trying to breath as it sinks to the bottom of the tank.

                                                                                                                                  Plus, they are used to fasting - during the winter season - so they can go with out food for a while - 1-2 weeks - with out any food - so i don't have to worry if i go on vacation - or crash at the office.

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                                                                                                                                    • MetaMan
                                                                                                                                      I AM WEB 2.0
                                                                                                                                      • Jan 2003
                                                                                                                                      • 28682
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      do not buy a saltwater tank!

                                                                                                                                      all it is, is a huge hassle, you have to constantly monitor the water ot your $50 fish will drop dead in no time,

                                                                                                                                      i have a 90 gallon tank with freshwater and its still a bitch,
                                                                                                                                      saltwater is a bad idea unless fish it your "hobby"

                                                                                                                                      and yes buy a stand! u dont want that think on top of a fireplace anyway.

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                                                                                                                                        • galleryseek
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                                                                                                                                          • Mar 2002
                                                                                                                                          • 8234
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          my bro had one for a longggg time several years ago... it was pretty cool cause you can get some crazy ass fish that eat other fish and shit. you jus gotta make sure everything is under the correct conditions and such.

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                                                                                                                                            • bellskids
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                                                                                                                                              • Jul 2002
                                                                                                                                              • 558
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              my sister had some piranhas, they used to bite the tail end off the goldfish and leave em at the bottom of the tank alive and crippled then eat them alive at their leisure...
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                                                                                                                                                • BrettJ
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                                                                                                                                                  • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                                                  • 4715
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  yup mine plays the same games.

                                                                                                                                                  sometimes 'precious' bites just enough of the tail off...that the fish still tries to swim around....

                                                                                                                                                  It's pretty entertaining. chicks dig it. (welll not all of them - about 1/4 of them think say it's really sad. the others ask me to call the next time i feed it)

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                                                                                                                                                    • KRL
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                                                                                                                                                      • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                                                      • 31429
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      My last fish died recently and I'm done with fish tanks. They look great when you first get them, but give it time and it becomes an endless chore keeping the fish alive and the tank looking sparkling.
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                                                                                                                                                        • chodadog
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                                                                                                                                                          • Apr 2002
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                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by MetaMan
                                                                                                                                                          i have a 90 gallon tank with freshwater and its still a bitch,
                                                                                                                                                          saltwater is a bad idea unless fish it your "hobby"
                                                                                                                                                          Are you kidding? Fresh water tanks are a breeze. Very low maintenance. I have african cichlids, in a 3 foot tank. Various species, and a few breeding pairs. I just feed 'em daily, change the water every couple of months and clean out my filter.

                                                                                                                                                          I think the reason my tank is such an easy tank is 'cause of my filter. I saw a filter for an 8 foot tank on sale, and picked it up. So it's fucking sweet for a 3 foot tank. lol.

                                                                                                                                                          Pipecrew, if you can actually determine whether or not that the fireplace radiates heat through the top or not, that'd be a cool spot for a tank. Try a test. Put a tank up there, fill it with water, light up the fire, and monitor the temperature over a couple of hours.

                                                                                                                                                          It'll be cool if the fluctuation is neglible, 'cause that really is a nice spot.
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                                                                                                                                                            • Zebra
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                                                                                                                                                              • Oct 2001
                                                                                                                                                              • 5091
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              I had a real nice tank about 10 years ago. Had one big pufferfish and he was alone for a while. Got 3 expensive but small puffers and they did OK the first day. Woke up the next morning and the large puffer had eaten the fins and tails off the small puffers. Poor things couldn't swim, only float around with the current in the tank. Had to flush them
                                                                                                                                                              Got a 2 foot eel and he ended up eating the tail off the large puffer. One day the eel got out somehow and was flopping around on the floor. My son was about 2 and he walked over and grabbed the eel and started smacking it on the floor. Got the eel back in the tank and it was OK. My son thought it was funny as hell. Ended up selling the tank and fish when I moved to another state. Haven't had one since. Cats are easier to take care of lol
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                                                                                                                                                                • VeriSexy
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                                                                                                                                                                  • Apr 2002
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                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Well if you got money to burn get Dragon fish or Flower horn fish. They are owned by rich people in Asia. Well only some of them will cost 20,000-30,000 USD per fish but the average ones will only cost a few hundred per fish. They are considered good luck

                                                                                                                                                                  I am sure local fish stores have them as well

                                                                                                                                                                  Super red arowana

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                                                                                                                                                                  Or if you like Japanese Carp they are very nice too. Kohaku are my favorite.

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                                                                                                                                                                    • Living For Today
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                                                                                                                                                                      • Feb 2002
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                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by chodadog


                                                                                                                                                                      Are you kidding? Fresh water tanks are a breeze. Very low maintenance. I have african cichlids, in a 3 foot tank. Various species, and a few breeding pairs. I just feed 'em daily, change the water every couple of months and clean out my filter.

                                                                                                                                                                      I think the reason my tank is such an easy tank is 'cause of my filter. I saw a filter for an 8 foot tank on sale, and picked it up. So it's fucking sweet for a 3 foot tank. lol.

                                                                                                                                                                      Pipecrew, if you can actually determine whether or not that the fireplace radiates heat through the top or not, that'd be a cool spot for a tank. Try a test. Put a tank up there, fill it with water, light up the fire, and monitor the temperature over a couple of hours.

                                                                                                                                                                      It'll be cool if the fluctuation is neglible, 'cause that really is a nice spot.
                                                                                                                                                                      shit man that must cause some serious current! is it a cannister filter?

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                                                                                                                                                                        • chodadog
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                                                                                                                                                                          • Apr 2002
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                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Living For Today


                                                                                                                                                                          shit man that must cause some serious current! is it a cannister filter?
                                                                                                                                                                          Yeah, damn thing kicks ass. Got it for about 60% of the retail price. Some little aquarium store was expanding or something, and they were gettin' rid of all the old stock.
                                                                                                                                                                          26 + 6 = 1

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                                                                                                                                                                            • Living For Today
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                                                                                                                                                                              • Feb 2002
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                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              nice
                                                                                                                                                                              i sold all my fish tanks a few years ago.
                                                                                                                                                                              had some oscars and different cichlids or however u spell it. heh.

                                                                                                                                                                              got to much effort and smelliness for my liking

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                                                                                                                                                                                • Asthma
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                                                                                                                                                                                  • Dec 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                  • 682
                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  get a stand because you will need to run a filtering system and the best place to store it is in the stand. but be advised salt water tanks are a bitch one fish dies they all die. i gave up on mine.
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